To those who think this president will or should be impeached: a president
can't be impeached because you don't like him. News media and
Hollywood trade in slander, rumors and gossip to attack anything Trump does, but
legal action has to have some basis in fact and evidence.
To get the Trump effect to work, just say anything not matter how unreasonable
that the crowd wants to hear and make up funny names for your opponents.
In the past 2 decades, Utah is best (#1 or #51)- in births to unmarried women,
infant mortality, white male life expectancy, smoking rate, diabetes, cancer
deaths, high blood pressure, chronic alcohol, best behaviors (combined
ranking of fewest drug deaths, alcohol drinking, obesity, smoking, physical
inactivity), children in poverty, overall health, hospital deaths among
seniors, hospital readmissions, lowest drunk driving fatalities, gambling
addicts (Utah is the sole state without any legalized gambling). BYU is ranked
most stone cold sober college,. Top business, charitable donations,
children per capita, Fodor’s Travel ranked Utah the #1
place to visit in the entire world for 2016, volunteerism, family
prosperity, youngest population, birth rate, #1 Gini, debt at graduation),
state credit ratings, divorce rate, household size, disabled, marriage rate,
children age under 6 with both parents in labor force, DWI blood alcohol
level. Wallet Hub, selected Utah as happiest state to live in. People
dot com ‘’ Excuse us as we pack up all of our things and purchase a
one-way ticket to Utah.
@Anti-Trump - Everett, WABill Clinton looked Americans straight in
the eye and said "I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss
Lewinsky. I never told anybody to lie, not a single time; never. These
allegations are false."
If we are going to bring Bill Clinton into this -- I remind
conservatives -- you had no less than 3 Congressional investigations, and you IMPEACHED Bill Clinton.So, where is your moral indignation
over Trump?Where is your investigations?[Oh, I see - Trump is
one of you, so now it's OK to just ignore it?]
@felisconcolorIf we are going to talk about allegations against Bill
Clinton (again someone I wouldn't vote for) then it's only fair play
to include all of the allegations against Trump. There are almost as many of
those as there are members of his executive he has hired then fired.Still, do Trumpublicans feel it fair to blame the spouse for her
husband's sins. Bill Clinton didn’t run in 2016. Hillary did.
"I too abhor Bill Clinton's actions, but to compare his sexual
involvement with a consenting adult (granted an unethical relationship)"Which one would that be?Juanita Broadderick, who accused
Bill Clinton of rape nearly 20 years ago and has never recanted her
allegations?Or Kathleen Willey, who accused him of sexual assault,
and has never recanted her allegations?Or Paula Jones, who accused
him of sexual harassment, and who received a Weinstein-esque financial
settlement from Bill?Or are you talking about the dozens of other
women who claimed to have a sexual relationship with Bill Clinton over the
years, a good percentage of which were likely not ethical or consensual?Even if you are talking about Monica Lewinsky, the President of the
United States having a consensual sexual relationship with an intern half his
age is a textbook example of sexual harassment, and is prohibited by virtually
every corporation and government agency.
After reading this article and these comments it appears the same delusions
which have afflicted Hillary Clinton for the past year have infected the Utah
Democrat Party today.Unless they cave to the Democrats on amnesty,
gun control, and health care, the Republicans will still control both Houses of
Congress after the 2018 elections. And Trump will win re-election in 2020.The Democrat Party has become the Party of the 1%, and has no grasp of
middle- and working-class concerns. Dr. Allen is a perfect example of just how
out of step the Democrats are with the average Utahn.
@Rick for Truth: Curious why you don't see any of the candidates who
participated in the debate as conservative.Does the Libertarian Joe
Buchman's fiscal conservatism count? Or are you looking for something
different?If the is a candidate that champions the free agency of
voters in Utah's Third Congressional District, it appears to be Dr.
Kathie Allen is right.If Trump keeps this up Republicans are going
to lose big time in 2018 and 2020. Moderate Republicans need to
stand up and start showing a backbone. They've let the monkeys run the
circus for too long.
It seems the bandwagon is loaded with the antiTrump group. In case we have
forgotten, Donald Trump is not your average politician. He did not enlist the
assistance of others to finance his political campaign. He is doing things like
no other politicians do. It seems Trump wants me to have a tax cut. I am sure
all of the antiTrump candidates will want to increase our taxes. Why would I
want to vote for them? So, call it as you may and get loud as you wish, but the
truth is, Utah is a very conservative state. The new political party is nothing
more than another dressed up liberal leaning party which will divide the
minority voters in the district. How soon have we forgotten the "Vote for it
before you can read it" echoed by the Democrats of both corridors of
Congress as they pushed to pass the Unaffordable Obamacare. Trump is not perfect
but good heavens! I'm so glad he is the President of the United States of
@ The Meliorist : Harvey Weinstein's payoffs to Hollywood and his massive
donations to the Democrats, and their subsequent hypocritical cover-ups have
fully demonstrated that America need not listen to Hollywood or Democrat's
lectures about morality any longer!
"It's been far worse than this multiple times." We've
certainly had many moments of polarization and angry conflict in Washington,
D.C., over the country's lifetime, but no, Mr. Curtis, I don't think
we've ever had it worse than now. We have a president who in
an unprecedented way and to an unprecedented degree is simply not fit to be
president. His style, as George Will wrote just yesterday, isn't even
"governance by tantrum, but rather tantrum as governance." We have a
Republican-led Congress that doesn't stand up to Mr. Trump's
vindictive, petty way of being, nor have they shown us that they can govern,
either. Sen. Corker told us that he is "putting the country on a path
towards World War 3"; none of his colleagues either affirm or deny this
statement. That's scary.Mr. Curtis has been a very good mayor,
and at another time, such as the time long ago when moderate Republicans roamed
the earth, he would have perhaps been a very good representative of this state.
But not now, when his only chance for success will require him to only be seen,
What in Tucket wrote:"Trump has never been proven to harass a
woman."Actually he admitted it himself twice. I too abhor Bill
Clinton's actions, but to compare his sexual involvement with a consenting
adult (granted an unethical relationship) to Trump's self-admitted ogling
of underage girls while dressing and unwantedly groping married women? And that
is just the stuff he has confessed (bragged about). This is why true
Republicans who may not have supported Hillary (McMullin here) would never, ever
again support Trump. The word that comes to mind is creep.Yes, as
one respected Republican Senator admitted, "The White House has become an
adult day care, and it looks like someone missed their shift."Real Republicans are more upset about Donald Trump than the Democrats, because
they realize the horrible damage he is doing to the party AND the country. Save us Mitt!
So we want a candidate who is going to support Trump policies? A wall? Are we
really so set against letting people come join their families, find jobs, and
move to a country they love that we would spend, say, $25 billion to lock them
out? I am not so set against these people that I want so much of my money spent
to deprive them of coming to our country. Health care? I do not like Obamacare,
but have not seen anything being suggested that is an improvement. Nothing. And,
now Trump is acting on executive authority. Will Curtis support keeping the
measures in place even though they are being achieved by executive order? Tax
reform? Are we big enough to see that if we are being promised tax cuts, that
means the national deficit -- already one of our nation's biggest problems
-- could get even bigger? And who will get so much of the tax cuts? Isn't
it the rich? Cutting the rich a favor at a time when the national debt is so out
of hand doesn't seem wise. If we elect Curtis, are we going to get someone
who is promising to come in and line up behind Trump policies? If so, I want
one of the other candidates.
Rick, that's the problem. You and many others would have voted for
literally anybody except Hillary. Literally. Anybody. That's a scary
thought for true Americans.Trump is not a good or honest person, not
a good or honest businessman, and a wholly unqualified President. Them's the facts.
To be honest, Joe Buchmann is perhaps the only candidate with anything remotely
credible to stand for. The other three don't seem to have any principles
whatsoever.A few of the principles from his website:"Rigorous financial integrity""Peaceful social
acceptance""Individual personal liberty"Sounds
like some real ideals I can get behind. Too bad I don't live in that
Its been very interesting and educational to watch the left's response to
President Trump's successes! Their only offering is how much they hate
President Trump! Still they have no plan, no vision, no hope! Do they really
think rational American will vote for them on that basis? Best of all, they
STILL can't figure out why they lost both houses of Congress, the WH and
now over 70% of governors are GOP! Carry on Democrats, the GOP hopes you never
The spectre of trump, or perhaps better described as a pall, hangs over a lot
more than that.
To LDS Liberal & Ralph; every day I wake up and Hillary is NOT the POTUS, I
get on my knees and thank God! You may hate Trump, but he loves America! The
payments to the insurance companies were Unconstitutional, illegal, and the
RINO’s and Democrat congressmen did not have the nerve to challenge it. We
still have a lot to do in removing weak kneed RINO’s to finally get
Obamacare killed. Real tax reform, and yes, the fence built! Way to Go Trump!
"No president has done more for the country in such a short time...His
agenda is super good, the wall, tax cuts, free market health care, a decent
military, etc....Trump has never been proven to harass a woman."How did this satire get past the censors."Trump has never been
proven to harass a woman." Except, of course, by his own admission. George Orwell is rolling in his grave. "Everything faded into
mist. The past was erased, the erasure was forgotten, the lie became truth."
The Republicans" method for healthcare reform so far has been a handful of
panicked backroom proposals, developed in secret, which turn out to be nothing
more than mean-spirited cuts without any true reforms or "care." Now
the Republicans' beloved Trump plans to blow up the healthcare markets
entirely (note to GOP: when you blow something up yourself, you don't get
to blame Obama for the mess).Now they're moving on to tax
reform, which, true to form, consists of a bunch of massive cuts to the highest
income bracket and the wealthy estate tax (only couples with estates over $10mil
even pay anything). Banquets for billionaires, crumbs for the commoners. We need responsible non-chaos candidates like Kathie Allen to help
prevent any more Republicans from "fixing" anything. Curtis might be
running away from any mention of Trump, but he & his fellow Republicans are
very much the ones who elected Trump, and who continue to pledge their
allegiance & support for our chaos president. Kathie Allen is the exact
opposite of the "adult day care" scenario that's otherwise
unfolding. Responsible grandmas, unite!
3rd District voters in 2016 wholeheartedly embraced the conservatism of Ted Cruz
over Donald Trump's dubious history. But since Trump took office, he's
shown he's clearly working for the middle class and the issues we've
been so exasperated at the GOP Congress over. Democrats are sabotaging the
agenda the people want. Kathie Rodham Allen et.al. will only make things worse.
John Curtis knows how to negotiate and get things done in a positive atmosphere.
Too bad these candidates make President Trump the issue and NOT what the People
need: honesty, patriotism, integrity, courage and doing the correct
Constitutional things. Our current Congress (and has been for many years) is
full of corrupt people who do not really care for America unless it fattens
their pockets. OK, I know there are some who are not corrupt but I am not sure
I can name them. So, be offended if you wish, and turn down any tax cuts you
may see coming so you can be supportive of the dems. [Sarcasm]
For reasons too many to mention please elect a representative who'll vote
to Impeach Trump when the time surely comes.
@Shaun "All I can say is if trump gets us in a war with NK over words it
will be the down fall of his presidency."It will be the deaths
of all of us.
"All I can say is if trump gets us in a war with NK over words it will be
the down fall of his presidency."How about the entire world?Make America Sane (and Safe) Again
I think people republicans tolerate Trump but he definitely has some fanboys.
Trump hasn't accomplished much so it is a wait and see how he
impacts the party over the next decade. All I can say is if trump gets us in a
war with NK over words it will be the down fall of his presidency.
“The Spector of trump hangs over and pollutes the entire world.”“Yes, Utah has a great reputation when it comes to believing in
con men and their affinity frauds.”“which torch do you
support? Liberty or the Fascists?”Seriously....please tone
down the rhetoric. It doesn’t contribute to the issues we face today in
'Specter of Trump' hangs over 3rd Congressional District debate'Specter of Trump' hangs over Republicans'Specter of
Trump' hangs over America'Specter of Trump' hangs over the
Better an elephant in the room than a donkey' Touche. I liked
Dr.Allen's picture of those torches - they remind me of Democrats'
antifa hoodlums on one of their rampages. The good Doctor doesn't need to
go to Washington to "diagnose' the problems, she can and should do it
right now. Some of us may want a second opinion. @Egyptian Origins -
The health crisis is not over. Trump merely rescinded by executive order that
which Obama instituted by executive order, using funds to give financial aid to
insurers to buoy up ACA. By the Constitution, Congress is the body to allocate
appropriations. This allocation was not part of the ACA passed by Congress.
Trump merely corrected a deviation from our Constitution. So, Obamacare is still
on the path to a crash; as Obama intended ACA to be a stepping stone to a more
government-controlled healthcare system.
In my view Curtis = Trump. After pulling the rug out from under the
health care of millions of Americans, Trump will go down in history as shameful,
along with his enablers -- such as Curtis. Kathie Allen is the only
true moral choice in this election.
No president has done more for the country in such a short time. Stock market
up $5 trillion plus and more on the way. His agenda is super good, the wall,
tax cuts, free market health care, a decent military, etc. Looks like Curtis is
my man. As for sexual indiscretions surely Bill Clinton activities
are horrendous and Harvey Weinstein's activities are just the tip of the
iceberg for Hollywood. Trump has never been proven to harass a woman.
Personal attacks and negative campaign strategies usually indicate desperation
on the part of someone who cannot address legitimate issues and is far behind in
the polls. This says more about Kathy Allen's credibility than it does
about John Curtis. Hopefully Utahns will see through this unfortunate attempt
I'm not sure which candidate I'd vote for, but they are all better
candidates than Herod would of been.
The Spector of trump hangs over and pollutes the entire world.Maybe
the 25th Amendment might save us.Make America Sane (and Safe) Again
"President Trump is very popular in Utah..."Yes, Utah has a
great reputation when it comes to believing in con men and their affinity
frauds. "In this bottle I hold Liberal Tears, guaranteed to
salve all your social worries. Step right up, folks. All it'll cost you
is your allegiance with the Dark One himself. Sign right here, please."
I'm reading the comment about no one being worth voting for reminds me of
our past presidential election when both popular political parties put the worst
possible candidate they could on the platform for election.
President Trump is very popular in Utah and among the middle class in most of
America! Is that the "Spector of Trump"? His approval rating is about
45% depending on which poll you read, and given the 2% margin of error in polls,
President Trump's approval rating could be about 47% which is higher than
was Obama's approval during much of his miserable term! Ah, yes, the
"Spector of Trump"! What a great thought!
"Afterward, Curtis told reporters it wasn't his place to "clean
that up. Trump has distractions." ~ articleExcuse Me?!As a United States Representative, and member of Congress -- that is PRECISELY
you job.Congress IS the Check and Balance to the Executive
branch.If you do not stand up against evil, and what is wrong -- YOU become an accomplice to that evil and wrong.Espicially when it
is your Consititional duty to do so.
Kathie Allen, as a doctor, is no longer needed in Congress because Trump has
settled the Health Care crisis without Congress all by himself. And the other
candidates do not know philosophy, which Plato indicated our government leaders
need to be philosophers rather than politicians, for philosophers won't
promote themselves to such a position, not being thus subjected to the vices of
greed, pride, and corruption of authority. And if by chance the winner goes on
to push for Constitutional values rather than the neo-Nationalist values that
are being Tweeted across this country, for which the Congressman will be bribed
by campaign contributions of special interest groups to sustain, they will be
kicked out just like Chaffetz who had the audacity to suggest an audit of the
Federal Reserve just before his announcement to leave office to be with his
family, though he has left his family again to be a Harvard Professor. So
frankly I don't see even a need to have an election for the 3rd
Congressional District, with the Executive Branch running the government all by
Mr. Curtis and for that matter everyone else running for office should answer
the question which torch do you support? Liberty or the Fascists? It's not
as Mr. Trump said good people on many sides...
Don't believe Mitt Romney was much beyond the 5th grade when he gave some
kid a "noogie" which was a big deal in his presidential race.
Don't see any reason that a reference to a Fifth Grade report card
wouldn't be relevant in this contest.😁
Trump will always be the elephant in the room. The Republican party unravels
more every day. Curtis will contort himself into a pretzel before it's all
The Democratic concern for compassion is admirable. But when was it wrong to
expect people to be self-sufficienct? Honestly in our country we have just about
compassioned to ourself to the poor house.That seems to be the division in
our country. The Democrats want to be compassionate: the Republicans say that we
can't afford to provide welfare benefits to all the illegal aliens and
those who would like to receive them.
No real conservative to vote for. Looking forward to next year. Won’t be
voting in the House race for the first time in my life.