McCain's choice: Ailing senator plays spoiler again for GOP

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  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    Sept. 25, 2017 6:47 a.m.

    @betcha;
    "so I must concede to the prophecies of the last days, in the Bible and other scriptures, and realize that is where we are headed."

    So, because America is becoming more divided every day under a petulant child president, you automatically jump to the end of the world? America could shrink down to a shell of its former self (like the British Empire) and the world will keep on rolling on. Being a little dramatic.

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 24, 2017 2:45 p.m.

    The Senator does not vote for garbage.

  • LOU Montana Pueblo, CO
    Sept. 24, 2017 12:20 p.m.

    Mom jeans man is gone: "I love libs saying he stuck to his principals. Great. Now tell me what his principals are?...."

    Please read the following:

    "As a Navy pilot, McCain survived a fire that killed 134 sailors aboard the aircraft carrier USS Forrestal in the Gulf of Tonkin during the Vietnam War. He was captured after his plane was shot down during a bombing mission over Hanoi and spent five years as a prisoner of war, refusing early release. Later in life, he survived several bouts with melanoma, a dangerous skin cancer."

    "John McCain numerous military decorations and awards include the Silver Star Medal, two Legion of Merits, Distinguished Flying Cross, three Bronze Star Medals, two Purple Heart Medals, two Navy and Marine Corps Commendation Medals, and Prisoner of War Medal."

    I, without a doubt, believe John McCain's principles are set in stone for American values! Very few people has given so much to this country!

    Ask yourself what you have done for your country?

  • Betcha Waltham, MA
    Sept. 24, 2017 12:19 p.m.

    I am getting to where I just need to understand that our country is falling apart, and that it will not be fixed because people seem to not want to be united, so I must concede to the prophecies of the last days, in the Bible and other scriptures, and realize that is where we are headed. Good luck America

  • JBs Logan, UT
    Sept. 24, 2017 12:12 p.m.

    I'm grateful for Senator McCain. Good for him. What has he got to lose by standing by his principles of working across the aisle? While I often disagree with him, I have the utmost respect for him because the way he lives his life matches his words. He's the real True Talker. Trump is the Fake True Talker. He runs his mouth but that's about it.

    When it comes down to it, the country wasn't designed to be run by one party; there's a two party system for a reason. Many people seem to have forgotten that. The Maverick hasn't.

  • Allen South Jordan, UT
    Sept. 24, 2017 9:57 a.m.

    People who say McCain is a spoiler need to take into consideration the reason he voted "no" of the GOP bill.. After all, congress is supposed to be a check on what the President does, not a "yes" person who supports everything the President does. Say what you want against McCain, but he is one who is willing to compromise with the democrats. People who oppose McCain seem to be those who say no compromise at all.

  • Mom jeans man is gone Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 24, 2017 9:17 a.m.

    I love libs saying he stuck to his principals. Great. Now tell me what his principals are?....

  • pragmatistferlife salt lake city, utah
    Sept. 24, 2017 8:03 a.m.

    BYUAlum He has betrayed the people of this country, especially the people of Arizona whose Obamacare premiums have gone up 116%.

    This is so disingenuous. One of the primary reasons the premiums have gone up in AZ. is it is covering more sick people...covering ok.

    This bills solution to the premium hikes is to kick the sick people out of the market and at best put them in high priced (yes every single analysis from the CBO, insurance industry, and medical industry says so) high risk pools. Then the healthy people will have lower premiums..until they get sick.

    Obamacare did little to reduce costs (it did in some places) but it did increase coverage for those who needed it.

    Kicking sick people off of their coverage is not fixing anything it's downright dumb, and those who fall for it are..how do I put it? Yea someone on this thread said it best...being betrayed.

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    Sept. 24, 2017 8:00 a.m.

    @1covey;
    "Senator McCain holds a very interesting position. The Democrats rammed Obamacare through Congress with no consideration for bipartisanship, since Democrats were a majority; "

    Please share where you get your information. "Alternative Facts" have no place in this discussion. The truth is that there were meetings and debates that included the bipartisan Senate Health committee and the Senate finance Committee, resulting in 188 GOP backed amendments included in the ACA. they had over 130 hours of debate- that time was limited-by McConnell. Every ACA plan was vetted by the CBO, something the new GOP's plan is avoiding showing anyone, much less the CBO. You can have your point of view, but you can't have your own "facts".

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Sept. 24, 2017 7:36 a.m.

    "Is it that important for him to be in the spotlight, or is it simply to stop anything President Trump does in this regard?"

    You might be right here.... but you have to remember it was Trump who started this fight by disrespecting McCain's service during Vietnam - saying that POWSs were not hero, only those who didn't get captured. Maybe this is a tit-for-tat battle... something the President loves to do as we see with North Korea and now the NFL.

    Yes, words matter, ever ones spoken on Twitter. Now I hope McCain isn't immature enough to be really engage Trump in this kind of sophomoric battle, but I wouldn't blame him.

    Let's have a true bi-partisan bill. For years we heard complaints about how ObamaCare was a partisan driven legislation.... now put you ethics where you words were conservative.... and pass a bipartisan replacement. Be the better party.

  • Thid Barker Victor, ID
    Sept. 24, 2017 7:30 a.m.

    Take away congress' Obamacare waivers and force them to live with what they have forced upon us and watch how fast they repeal and replace Obamacare!

  • SMcloud Sandy, UT
    Sept. 24, 2017 3:05 a.m.

    Thank you Senator McCain for sticking to your principles.

    If the bill cannot withstand hearings and scrutiny it shouldn't be signed. This is a piece of legislation that will effect 1/6 of the economy, and something to be taken seriously. I know the Republicans have promised repeal but until they have a good plan they should slow down a bit.

  • silo Sandy, UT
    Sept. 24, 2017 1:32 a.m.

    @1covey

    "The Democrats rammed Obamacare through Congress with no consideration for bipartisanship"

    When your defining argument is false, it doesn't do much for the rest of your comment.

    Democrats didn't "ram" anything through. The PPACA was 14 months in the making. It went through both houses of congress, all the required committees, multiple amendments including over 200 proposed by Republicans and 150+ of those included in the final bill. It had bipartisan committee participation and votes. It included a substantial amount of healthcare legislation that was authored by Republicans, including 30% of the Senate version.

    The only side that had 'no consideration for bipartisanship was the Republicans. They participated in the legislation, they authored entire segments, they voted for it in committee. Then they voted against the bill en bloc.

  • stevo123 Driggs, ID
    Sept. 23, 2017 8:24 p.m.

    Thank you Senator McCain, you have put people before party.

  • BYUalum South Jordan, UT
    Sept. 23, 2017 7:54 p.m.

    He has betrayed the people of this country, especially the people of Arizona whose Obamacare premiums have gone up 116%.

    Is it that important for him to be in the spotlight, or is it simply to stop anything President Trump does in this regard?

  • 1covey Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 23, 2017 6:36 p.m.

    Senator McCain holds a very interesting position. The Democrats rammed Obamacare through Congress with no consideration for bipartisanship, since Democrats were a majority; Now, McCain feels bipartisanship is most important, even though the Democrats want nothing to do with the Republican administration who is pushing replace/repeal. My take on the situation is the options are Obamacare or some other national Medical care plan. Obamacare is getting pretty pricey - but, any national plan will be costly. Will those with risky lifestyles pay higher premiums ? Will there be governmental policies unfavorable to some, who have special concerns? Will abortion be covered ? Will there be limitations of any kind ? Can everybody get what they want or will you need political power of some kind ? The last is a given, sadly.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Sept. 23, 2017 6:25 p.m.

    McCain's choice: Ailing senator plays spoiler again for GOP
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    What a bunch of hogwash ---

    Sen. John McCain never said NO to the 'bill',
    he said NO to way it was being done.
    Just like he did last round....

    The Senate once again did NOT follow 230 years of Senate rules and protocols - commonly referred to as `the regular order`.

    i.e.,
    present the bill,
    holding hearings,
    amend,
    tweek,
    allow for BI-partisan in put and say so,
    holding more hearings,
    asking the American people,
    honing and still more tweeking,
    more hearings,
    get BI-partisan support,
    and
    THEN, vote!

    Senator McCain is correct, that something as big and comprehensive as this effecting 330 million Americans,
    and 1/5th of our GDP absolutely must have Bi-partisan support!

    The Senate once again did everything is secret,
    held no hearings,
    allow for no input,
    ram-rodded the bill in secret
    and once again demands a straight up and down vote,
    without knowing what was even in it!

    It was wrong when Democrats did it,
    it is even MORE wrong and hypocritical when Republicans try doing it now.

    Good for McCain for sticking to principles,
    and not caving to 'secret combinations'.