Senate Democrats say 'no' to cuts for rich in GOP tax plan

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  • What in Tucket? Provo, UT
    Aug. 3, 2017 12:07 p.m.

    Here we have a country wherein even those in poverty live in a residence with indoor sanitary facilities, clean water, a couple TV's, a car or two, food on the table and it is due to capitalism and private property rights. This has been restrained by a huge bureaucracy with over 22,000 regulations by Obama. I would suggest one look twice at anything the Dems suggest. IT is the Democratic socialist party. Socialism doesn't work other than to make everyone poor.

  • worf McAllen, TX
    Aug. 2, 2017 10:09 a.m.

    @FT ,

    Nope! It's irresponsible spending, and management.

    It's easy, and fun spending other peoples money, but it's theft.

    Taking money away from people, and spending it is dishonest, and reflects on the character of our political leaders, and many of our citizens.

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    Aug. 2, 2017 8:19 a.m.

    Tax cuts are something the GOP has always unified behind. The affect has been increasing deficits and the national debt. Those are the facts.

  • worf McAllen, TX
    Aug. 1, 2017 11:10 p.m.

    @marxist,

    Many of the bottom 50%, pay hidden taxes with tax money which was redistributed to them in the form of benefits.

    That doesn't cut it. It's consumers taking from the producers, and than complaining that producers aren't giving enough.

  • Thid Barker Victor, ID
    Aug. 1, 2017 6:53 p.m.

    @ Marxist: You said, " if you examine the ENTIRE tax system of the United States at all levels of government, we have at best a proportional tax system, i.e. percentage of income taxed at all levels is about equal." That is baloney!
    I can find no such information that you claim! The entire tax system is almost entirely funded by the highest income producers all the way from county property taxes who own more property, thus they pay more, to state income taxes: all taxes. US corporate taxes are among the highest in the world, which mostly get passed along to consumers in higher cost of goods that the highest income producers tend to consume more because they can. The poorest among us pay the least sales taxes because they spend less, they pay the least amount of fuel taxes because they use less!
    To demonstrate, lets say person "A" earned $500k and paid 20% taxes=$100K.
    Person "B" earned $70K and paid the same tax rate 20%= $14K. In reality, person "B" would pay a much lower percentage of their income due to our graduated tax code!
    Who paid the most taxes? It ain't equal at all! No way!

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 1, 2017 5:35 p.m.

    How do people think they are going to get paid back otherwise for the millions and millions of contributions funneled to the GOP?

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 1, 2017 5:35 p.m.

    @Thid Barker "Well, since nearly 75% of all federal income taxes collected are paid by the top 20% of income producers, while the bottom 50% contribute only about 4%, how do you cut the taxes any more for the bottom 50%? Our punish the achiever tax system proves Democrats never met a tax they don't love,..."

    Like I have said on these blogs repeatedly, apparently to no avail, if you examine the ENTIRE tax system of the United States at all levels of government, we have at best a proportional tax system, i.e. percentage of income taxed at all levels is about equal.

  • RedShirt USS Enterprise, UT
    Aug. 1, 2017 3:56 p.m.

    To "SMcloud " how has CEO pay outpaced the worker's pay? The average CEO makes about $180,000 per year, according to the US Census Bureau.

    Your average CEO isn't really making that much more than the average worker, only about 3 times what the average worker makes.

  • mcclark Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 1, 2017 12:46 p.m.

    Worf you have me confused, saying no to tax cuts will drive up the deficit? Is this part of the Republican "up is down" campaign?

  • SMcloud Sandy, UT
    Aug. 1, 2017 11:51 a.m.

    Good. CEO pay has greatly outpaced the pay of the everyday worker.

    If we continue on our current trajectory, very few people will hold most of the wealth and the middle class will disappear. Who will keep the economy going then? Big gaps between the rich and poor are unhealthy for society.

  • worf McAllen, TX
    Aug. 1, 2017 11:50 a.m.

    Amazing how rich Democrats are saying "no" to tax cuts.

    They are so compassionate. Aren't they?

    It's like a car salesman telling you he's not making anything on a sale.

    So many folks, are so deceived.

    Compassionate politicians don't create a national debt in which all the money in America can't pay off. Somebody got wealthy!

  • mcclark Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 1, 2017 11:11 a.m.

    Yes what a terrible idea, have those who can easily afford it pay more taxes then their workers who cant afford it. Horrible. Think of all the money the wealthy pay their legislators to get the tax breaks they dont need. how terrible if that money was wasted. I weep for the wealthy.

  • Thid Barker Victor, ID
    Aug. 1, 2017 10:39 a.m.

    Tax cuts for the rich? Well, since nearly 75% of all federal income taxes collected are paid by the top 20% of income producers, while the bottom 50% contribute only about 4%, how do you cut the taxes any more for the bottom 50%? Our punish the achiever tax system proves Democrats never met a tax they don't love, as long as other people pays them! Also proving a Democrat is someone who thinks they have the right to spend other people's money! What we need is a flat tax so everyone contributes thus we have more people paying taxes instead of ever fewer people paying ever higher taxes! When was the last time anyone in the bottom 50% income bracket offered another person a job? Want to kill jobs? Punish those who create them!

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 1, 2017 10:02 a.m.

    "They won't support any upcoming GOP effort to overhaul the U.S. tax code that delivers tax cuts to "the top 1 percent" or adds to the government's $20 trillion debt."

    The Republicans know how to do two things, and two things only, cut taxes and cut programs which help the middle and under classes. Their dominant theory is "trickle down" which is well known not to work.

    A progressive tax is justified because the wealthy, capital, make their profits from surplus value, the exploitation of labor.

  • Vermonter Plymouth, MI
    Aug. 1, 2017 9:58 a.m.

    The title of the article is (as usual from AP) deceptive. By definition for most Democrats and the DNC, all tax cuts are cuts for the rich.

    The most informative part of the article is that Democratic senators from West Virginia, Indiana and North Dakota did not sign the letter. They know that a clear majority in their states generally support GOP tax reform proposals. They know that if they fall in line with other Democrats, they will be out of a job at the end of 2018.

  • 4601 Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 1, 2017 9:57 a.m.

    The ultimate test of fairness in the congress is whether all congressional members will agree to be covered by the ACA rather than the limousine plan they now enjoy.