Special thanks to those White House aides for leaking this story to the New York
Times. This story has a bad smell to it and apparently even a few people close
to Trump were overwhelmed by the odor.
@Tolstoy "you do understand that the son in law and son admit that they meet
with the lawyer and that they were told that the lawyer wanted to meet with them
about damaging information towards Clinton?"Yes, I'm fully
aware. Can you specify the crime you think that proves they committed?
@Nate & Thid:"Over the weekend, the eldest son of President
Donald Trump admitted that he met with a lawyer linked to the Russian government
last June after being promised damaging information on Trump’s opponent,
Hillary Clinton."--- Isn't that enough evidence for you?
Jr. stated that he met with the Russians after being told they had information
that would harm the Clinton campaign. Talk about collusion.
It's looking more and more like collusion. The word you're looking
for Donald Jr. and Kuchner is "karma".
"the practice of spying or of USING spies, typically by governments to
obtain political and military information." "...and is a crime of
TREASON."I did not know the CIA and NSA were committing treason.
Military commanders in a war zone are committing treason? Espionage and treason are not synonymous with each other.
can we agree that LL's prior stated tacit support for the OWS, constitutes
support for treason and sedition. From the OWS web site,
"American activists must move from detached indignation to revolutionary
engagement. The path forward is revealed in the rallying cry of the people in
the streets: “Not My President!” Concretely speaking, activists
must reorient all efforts around capturing sovereignty." Talking of espionage against Trump with no evidence is sedition. And as a
supporter of OWS hardly qualifies for claiming someone else's treason.
DAILY - Smell Test....IF this was Chelsea Clinton, would the
right-wing be freaking out?Yes.Smell Test today -- Confirmed
once again, Team Trump is rotten to the core.es·pi·o·nage/espnÄZH/noun: espionagethe practice of spying or of USING spies, typically by governments to
obtain political and military information....and is a crime of
In my opinion I think that statements like this, "None of this
matters to Trump Supporters. They are the most blind loyal people to ever exist.
Not sad but sickening!"Is nothing more than an
attempt to foment hate and violence toward the Republican voters. Are you also a supporter of the fascist Antifa group. Those that wish to
stifle the free speech of anyone they disagree with. Can we blame you for any
physical attacks against Trump supporters. This is what you are calling for
based on your hate.
@Millenial Snow"And the fact that his children stand in for him
is disturbing. Imagine if this were Bill Clinton and Hilary came to sit at the
meetings?"Sorry MS, but Hillary did sit in for Bill Clinton
during G-20 conferences. And yet there is no outrage by the liberals. Yes this
is what a double standard looks like.Lets not take the session out
of context. Ivanka sat in on a meeting for “Partnership with Africa,
Migration and Health,” led by the head of the World Bank. When the
President left that meeting to meet with other world leaders, Ivanka moved up to
sit in his seat.The president of the World Bank addressed the
meeting, which was about African migration and health — areas that would
benefit from a facility that Ivanka Trump and the World Bank had announced
shortly before the meeting, the spokesman said. What Ivanka was at
a meeting involving her humanitarian interests. Anti-Trumpers are sliding down
a slide of non-reality.
As they say, life is stranger than fiction. This is the kind of story a
political intrigue novelist might pen and make a bundle on as a bestseller on
the paperback racks in grocery stores. How much longer can Trump continue to
call this fake news?That's an easy one. The answer is as long
as he chooses to.
Dmitry Peskov said ambassador Sergey Kislyak met with “people working in
think tanks advising Hillary or advising people working for Hillary.”Say What! Hillary's people met with the Russians prior to the
election. John Podesta had financial deals with the Russians, Bill Clinton
was paid 500,000 for a speech in Russia. Ok all liberals please publicly tell us
Hillary is guilty of Treason, and should never have been elected. Standard liberal defense, Well she wasn't elected so her crimes are not
important as supposed Trump crimes. Which means liberals believe in a two tier
justice system. No judgments for liberals and calling for the execution of
Republicans. Yes that is what liberals are calling for when they accuse Trump
@Nate - Pleasant Grove, UTyou do understand that the son in law and
son admit that they meet with the lawyer and that they were told that the lawyer
wanted to meet with them about damaging information towards Clinton? they do not
refute these facts.
"This is TREASONOUS and deserves impeachment." Be careful this
statement is sedition in it's least.
@Misty Mountain "...I, for one, find the claim ludicrous."Yep. So go ahead and continue to do inference, but at some point you will need
real evidence. Without it, you will not have a treason conviction, or
impeachment, or whatever it is you are aiming for.Even if you are
only trying to score political points, without evidence for your accusations,
people will see this for what it is.
@marxist "Tell me why I should trust them."You
shouldn't trust them. I don't trust them. I'm saying we need to
base our judgements on evidence, not rumor and innuendo.@marxist
"Do you accept Bill Clinton and Loretta Lynch only talked about the kids on
that plane?"Of course not, but I won't make (and have not
made) an accusation without evidence. Do you see the difference?@RC
in WJ "Donald Trump Jr. on Sunday Morn. talk show, admitted that the meeting
was to receive some information that could be used against Hillary Clinton in
the upcoming campaign!"Let me supply a quote from the New York
Times:"'After pleasantries were exchanged, the woman stated
that she had information that individuals connected to Russia were funding the
Democratic National Committee and supporting Mrs. Clinton. Her statements were
vague, ambiguous and made no sense. No details or supporting information was
provided or even offered. It quickly became clear that she had no meaningful
information.'"He said she then turned the conversation to
adoption of Russian children and the Magnitsky Act...."
With this very strange hookup between the Trumps and the Russians, I believe our
nation is in grave peril. Fourth estate, don't fail us now!
@ Marxist: Still more tin foil hat conspiracy theories with no evidence? No, you
don't know what went on in that meeting or any other meeting! Impeachment?
For what? Opinions are not evidence! Keep that in mind when you throw out
accusations! If "smear campaigns" were crimes, fake news would all be in
prison! You on the left get more irrational everyday!
The famous John Stormer (a virulent anti-communist, conservative educator and
author) wrote a book about such acts as Donald Trump Jr and his confederates.
It was called "None Dare Call It Treason".We this one does
call it treason. As a former Bush II official has said, "we would lock him
up". Just how far has the GOP gone to defend the indefensible?Treason, I call it out. GOP, you inaction speaks volumes and sooner or later
your inaction will cause you the power you so viciously seek.
Everything the Trump campaign touches seems so slimy. And the fact
that his children stand in for him is disturbing. Imagine if this were Hilary
and Chelsea came to sit at the meetings? Fox news would melt into a fury. And
yet there is no outrage. What a double standard.
Marxist, I thought the punishment for treason was far worse than impeachment.I can't remember, what did we used to do with traitors who conspire
with hostile foreign governments to subvert our own democratic process? What about giving away state secrets to Russian spies? Oh my bad, he did that
on accident. whoops!
If you've been following Fox News and other right wing "news", the
message has changed in the last month.Fox News used to be spouting
the general message of "Collusion?! Prove it liberals!"Now
Fox "News" has changed it's corporate message to "Collusion?
That's not even a crime? Only liberals think it's a crime!"Hey liberals, don't you know it's not "collusion" with
the Russians, it's "partnering"!
@ Marxist: Please provide your evidence that the meeting was a smear campaign
against Hillary! Come on man! You are making claims you can not back up! There
is a name for that, its called bearing false witness!
@Thid "Isn't it horrible that anyone would have a meeting with a
Russian for any reason?"Except we now know the meeting was for
coordinating a smear campaign against Clinton. Think of it, conspiring with a
foreign government to influence our national election.This is
TREASONOUS and deserves impeachment.
Re: Misty Mountain""Do you have evidence that the meeting
was over something other than adoption? Please post it here."As
you requested:Donald Trump Jr. on Sunday Morn. talk show, admitted
that the meeting was to receive some information that could be used against
Hillary Clinton in the upcoming campaign!Seems like Priebus forgot
to check with all the parties involved to get their lie's errrr I mean
stories straight.Misty step away from the KoooooolAid trough, the SS
Trump is listing and is going down!
Report: Trump son, son-in-law met with Kremlin-linked lawyer=======
Doesn't matter what hey talked about.Making contact
welcomes the chance of bugging the rooms.Co-incidence -- Trump
blames Obama for wiretapping Trump Tower, but it seems it was more likely
the Russians who did it.
Putin is fooling Trump.Trump is trying to fool us.And
some people are actually willing to be fooled.How foolish can anyone
I don't care if you're a Republican, Democrat, Independent,
Libertarian, whatever. We are all Americans and we all need to recognize that
Trump is a threat to national security and the American way of life. He crosses
the line to treasonous.
@Nate asks, "Do you have evidence that the meeting was over
something other than adoption? Please post it here."No, of
course not. But I, for one, find the claim ludicrous.1. The ban
was put in place in 2012. Not exactly recently.2. None of the
parties present at the meeting--Manafort, Kushner, or Ivanka Trump--nor Donald
Trump, for that matter--ever publicly stated their personal concerns about the
adoption ban before making this claim--almost a year after the meeting. 3. No Russian official has ever made a formal statement about wishing
to discuss the adoption ban, prior to today. 4. If this meeting
actually had been about the adoption ban, Donald Trump would have tweeted about
it and brought it up repeatedly, in an effort to get votes from would-be
adopting parents.Serious question. If Ivanka and Jared claimed that
the meeting in 2016 was about borscht recipes, would you believe them--because
you saw no evidence that this wasn't the topic?
@Nate "Do you have evidence that the meeting was over something other than
adoption? Please post it here."No of course I don't. I
wasn't there. But why should I trust this bunch?Tell me why I
should trust them.Do you accept Bill Clinton and Loretta Lynch only
talked about the kids on that plane? Do you have any evidence they talked about
something else? Shoe's on the other foot, eh?
The meeting was on forming a future cyber security unit after hacking and
distributing false news. The Donald has now given Putin standing equal to the
United States which as requested. Someone needs to check into Swiss bank
accounts very soon for money transfers.
None of this matters to Trump Supporters. They are the most blind loyal people
to ever exist. Not sad but sickening!
@fullypresent "Do they really think the meeting was over adoption? "Do you have evidence that the meeting was over something other than
adoption? Please post it here.
The sub headline is: "Partisan press operatives grasp at straws."
The President is proposing a strategic partnership with the Russians on
cyber-security, to help prevent things like our election hacking.
(Seriously.)Putin announced that Trump was satisfied with his
questions about the election hacking - "we were not involved" - and they
both agreed it's time to move forward on the election hacking issue.Very clearly, Trump trusts Putin's assurance far more than he
trusts the US intelligence community. Look for Trump to give back to
Russia the spy compound seized by Obama, when the previous president kicked out
35 Russian spies.How do Republicans in Utah line up on this issue?
It's time for your voices to be heard.
Isn't it horrible that anyone would have a meeting with a Russian for any
reason? "We don’t see things as they are, we see them as we are".
Stephen CoveyMr Covey's quote will help you understand why liberals
(including fake news) see corruption where it doesn't exist ( no evidence)
but can not see it where it is rampant and obvious (Susan Rice, Eric Holder,
Hillary and B. Obama, et al).
Should anyone be surprised? Do they really think the meeting was over adoption?
Not hardly. The Trumps are about greed, abuse of power, and buying influence.
I hear that Nevel Chamberlain a British prime minister met with Hitler. His
successor, Churchill after this met the American president Roosevelt.Not certain what can be made of this, but there has got to be something we can
pin onto Roosevelt if we imagine hard enough.