Report: Trump son, son-in-law met with Kremlin-linked lawyer

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  • Utah Girl Chronicles Eagle Mountain, UT
    July 10, 2017 9:53 p.m.

    Special thanks to those White House aides for leaking this story to the New York Times. This story has a bad smell to it and apparently even a few people close to Trump were overwhelmed by the odor.

  • Alter Nate Pleasant Grove, UT
    July 10, 2017 2:33 p.m.

    @Tolstoy "you do understand that the son in law and son admit that they meet with the lawyer and that they were told that the lawyer wanted to meet with them about damaging information towards Clinton?"

    Yes, I'm fully aware. Can you specify the crime you think that proves they committed?

  • Ranch Here, UT
    July 10, 2017 2:30 p.m.

    @Nate & Thid:

    "Over the weekend, the eldest son of President Donald Trump admitted that he met with a lawyer linked to the Russian government last June after being promised damaging information on Trump’s opponent, Hillary Clinton."

    --- Isn't that enough evidence for you? Jr. stated that he met with the Russians after being told they had information that would harm the Clinton campaign. Talk about collusion.

  • Ranch Here, UT
    July 10, 2017 2:18 p.m.

    It's looking more and more like collusion. The word you're looking for Donald Jr. and Kuchner is "karma".

  • jjjdsd CENTERVILLE, UT
    July 10, 2017 1:02 p.m.

    "the practice of spying or of USING spies, typically by governments to obtain political and military information." "...and is a crime of TREASON."

    I did not know the CIA and NSA were committing treason. Military commanders in a war zone are committing treason?

    Espionage and treason are not synonymous with each other.

  • jjjdsd CENTERVILLE, UT
    July 10, 2017 12:37 p.m.

    can we agree that LL's prior stated tacit support for the OWS, constitutes support for treason and sedition.

    From the OWS web site, "American activists must move from detached indignation to revolutionary engagement. The path forward is revealed in the rallying cry of the people in the streets: “Not My President!” Concretely speaking, activists must reorient all efforts around capturing sovereignty."

    Talking of espionage against Trump with no evidence is sedition. And as a supporter of OWS hardly qualifies for claiming someone else's treason.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    July 10, 2017 11:23 a.m.

    DAILY - Smell Test....

    IF this was Chelsea Clinton, would the right-wing be freaking out?
    Yes.

    Smell Test today -- Confirmed once again, Team Trump is rotten to the core.

    es·pi·o·nage
    /espnÄZH/

    noun: espionage

    the practice of spying or of USING spies, typically by governments to obtain political and military information.

    ...and is a crime of TREASON.

  • jsf Centerville, UT
    July 10, 2017 11:19 a.m.

    In my opinion I think that statements like this,

    "None of this matters to Trump Supporters. They are the most blind loyal people to ever exist.

    Not sad but sickening!"

    Is nothing more than an attempt to foment hate and violence toward the Republican voters.

    Are you also a supporter of the fascist Antifa group. Those that wish to stifle the free speech of anyone they disagree with. Can we blame you for any physical attacks against Trump supporters. This is what you are calling for based on your hate.

  • jsf Centerville, UT
    July 10, 2017 11:09 a.m.

    @Millenial Snow

    "And the fact that his children stand in for him is disturbing. Imagine if this were Bill Clinton and Hilary came to sit at the meetings?"

    Sorry MS, but Hillary did sit in for Bill Clinton during G-20 conferences. And yet there is no outrage by the liberals. Yes this is what a double standard looks like.

    Lets not take the session out of context. Ivanka sat in on a meeting for “Partnership with Africa, Migration and Health,” led by the head of the World Bank. When the President left that meeting to meet with other world leaders, Ivanka moved up to sit in his seat.

    The president of the World Bank addressed the meeting, which was about African migration and health — areas that would benefit from a facility that Ivanka Trump and the World Bank had announced shortly before the meeting, the spokesman said.

    What Ivanka was at a meeting involving her humanitarian interests. Anti-Trumpers are sliding down a slide of non-reality.

  • Craig Clark Boulder, CO
    July 10, 2017 10:53 a.m.

    As they say, life is stranger than fiction. This is the kind of story a political intrigue novelist might pen and make a bundle on as a bestseller on the paperback racks in grocery stores. How much longer can Trump continue to call this fake news?

    That's an easy one. The answer is as long as he chooses to.

  • jsf Centerville, UT
    July 10, 2017 10:48 a.m.

    Dmitry Peskov said ambassador Sergey Kislyak met with “people working in think tanks advising Hillary or advising people working for Hillary.”

    Say What! Hillary's people met with the Russians prior to the election. John Podesta had financial deals with the Russians, Bill Clinton was paid 500,000 for a speech in Russia. Ok all liberals please publicly tell us Hillary is guilty of Treason, and should never have been elected.

    Standard liberal defense, Well she wasn't elected so her crimes are not important as supposed Trump crimes. Which means liberals believe in a two tier justice system. No judgments for liberals and calling for the execution of Republicans. Yes that is what liberals are calling for when they accuse Trump of treason.

  • Tolstoy salt lake, UT
    July 10, 2017 10:46 a.m.

    @Nate - Pleasant Grove, UT

    you do understand that the son in law and son admit that they meet with the lawyer and that they were told that the lawyer wanted to meet with them about damaging information towards Clinton? they do not refute these facts.

  • jsf Centerville, UT
    July 10, 2017 10:18 a.m.

    "This is TREASONOUS and deserves impeachment." Be careful this statement is sedition in it's least.

  • Nate Pleasant Grove, UT
    July 10, 2017 9:31 a.m.

    @Misty Mountain "...I, for one, find the claim ludicrous."

    Yep. So go ahead and continue to do inference, but at some point you will need real evidence. Without it, you will not have a treason conviction, or impeachment, or whatever it is you are aiming for.

    Even if you are only trying to score political points, without evidence for your accusations, people will see this for what it is.

  • Nate Pleasant Grove, UT
    July 10, 2017 9:25 a.m.

    @marxist "Tell me why I should trust them."

    You shouldn't trust them. I don't trust them. I'm saying we need to base our judgements on evidence, not rumor and innuendo.

    @marxist "Do you accept Bill Clinton and Loretta Lynch only talked about the kids on that plane?"

    Of course not, but I won't make (and have not made) an accusation without evidence. Do you see the difference?

    @RC in WJ "Donald Trump Jr. on Sunday Morn. talk show, admitted that the meeting was to receive some information that could be used against Hillary Clinton in the upcoming campaign!"

    Let me supply a quote from the New York Times:

    "'After pleasantries were exchanged, the woman stated that she had information that individuals connected to Russia were funding the Democratic National Committee and supporting Mrs. Clinton. Her statements were vague, ambiguous and made no sense. No details or supporting information was provided or even offered. It quickly became clear that she had no meaningful information.'

    "He said she then turned the conversation to adoption of Russian children and the Magnitsky Act...."

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    July 10, 2017 7:30 a.m.

    With this very strange hookup between the Trumps and the Russians, I believe our nation is in grave peril.

    Fourth estate, don't fail us now!

  • Thid Barker Victor, ID
    July 10, 2017 6:50 a.m.

    @ Marxist: Still more tin foil hat conspiracy theories with no evidence? No, you don't know what went on in that meeting or any other meeting! Impeachment? For what? Opinions are not evidence! Keep that in mind when you throw out accusations! If "smear campaigns" were crimes, fake news would all be in prison! You on the left get more irrational everyday!

  • unrepentant progressive Bozeman, MT
    July 10, 2017 6:33 a.m.

    The famous John Stormer (a virulent anti-communist, conservative educator and author) wrote a book about such acts as Donald Trump Jr and his confederates. It was called "None Dare Call It Treason".

    We this one does call it treason. As a former Bush II official has said, "we would lock him up". Just how far has the GOP gone to defend the indefensible?

    Treason, I call it out. GOP, you inaction speaks volumes and sooner or later your inaction will cause you the power you so viciously seek.

  • Millenial Snow Sandy, UT
    July 10, 2017 5:45 a.m.

    Everything the Trump campaign touches seems so slimy.

    And the fact that his children stand in for him is disturbing. Imagine if this were Hilary and Chelsea came to sit at the meetings? Fox news would melt into a fury. And yet there is no outrage. What a double standard.

  • Ralph Salt Lake City, UT
    July 9, 2017 11:56 p.m.

    Marxist, I thought the punishment for treason was far worse than impeachment.

    I can't remember, what did we used to do with traitors who conspire with hostile foreign governments to subvert our own democratic process?
    What about giving away state secrets to Russian spies? Oh my bad, he did that on accident. whoops!

  • Ralph Salt Lake City, UT
    July 9, 2017 11:51 p.m.

    If you've been following Fox News and other right wing "news", the message has changed in the last month.

    Fox News used to be spouting the general message of "Collusion?! Prove it liberals!"

    Now Fox "News" has changed it's corporate message to "Collusion? That's not even a crime? Only liberals think it's a crime!"

    Hey liberals, don't you know it's not "collusion" with the Russians, it's "partnering"!

  • Thid Barker Victor, ID
    July 9, 2017 9:00 p.m.

    @ Marxist: Please provide your evidence that the meeting was a smear campaign against Hillary! Come on man! You are making claims you can not back up! There is a name for that, its called bearing false witness!

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    July 9, 2017 8:43 p.m.

    @Thid "Isn't it horrible that anyone would have a meeting with a Russian for any reason?"

    Except we now know the meeting was for coordinating a smear campaign against Clinton. Think of it, conspiring with a foreign government to influence our national election.

    This is TREASONOUS and deserves impeachment.

  • RC in WJ WEST JORDAN, UT
    July 9, 2017 7:30 p.m.

    Re: Misty Mountain

    ""Do you have evidence that the meeting was over something other than adoption? Please post it here."

    As you requested:

    Donald Trump Jr. on Sunday Morn. talk show, admitted that the meeting was to receive some information that could be used against Hillary Clinton in the upcoming campaign!

    Seems like Priebus forgot to check with all the parties involved to get their lie's errrr I mean stories straight.

    Misty step away from the KoooooolAid trough, the SS Trump is listing and is going down!

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    July 9, 2017 6:22 p.m.

    Report: Trump son, son-in-law met with Kremlin-linked lawyer

    =======

    Doesn't matter what hey talked about.

    Making contact welcomes the chance of bugging the rooms.

    Co-incidence -- Trump blames Obama for wiretapping Trump Tower,
    but it seems it was more likely the Russians who did it.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    July 9, 2017 3:43 p.m.

    Putin is fooling Trump.

    Trump is trying to fool us.

    And some people are actually willing to be fooled.

    How foolish can anyone get?

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    July 9, 2017 3:28 p.m.

    I don't care if you're a Republican, Democrat, Independent, Libertarian, whatever. We are all Americans and we all need to recognize that Trump is a threat to national security and the American way of life. He crosses the line to treasonous.

  • Misty Mountain Kent, WA
    July 9, 2017 12:47 p.m.

    @Nate asks,

    "Do you have evidence that the meeting was over something other than adoption? Please post it here."

    No, of course not. But I, for one, find the claim ludicrous.

    1. The ban was put in place in 2012. Not exactly recently.

    2. None of the parties present at the meeting--Manafort, Kushner, or Ivanka Trump--nor Donald Trump, for that matter--ever publicly stated their personal concerns about the adoption ban before making this claim--almost a year after the meeting.

    3. No Russian official has ever made a formal statement about wishing to discuss the adoption ban, prior to today.

    4. If this meeting actually had been about the adoption ban, Donald Trump would have tweeted about it and brought it up repeatedly, in an effort to get votes from would-be adopting parents.

    Serious question. If Ivanka and Jared claimed that the meeting in 2016 was about borscht recipes, would you believe them--because you saw no evidence that this wasn't the topic?

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    July 9, 2017 11:16 a.m.

    @Nate "Do you have evidence that the meeting was over something other than adoption? Please post it here."

    No of course I don't. I wasn't there. But why should I trust this bunch?

    Tell me why I should trust them.

    Do you accept Bill Clinton and Loretta Lynch only talked about the kids on that plane? Do you have any evidence they talked about something else? Shoe's on the other foot, eh?

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    July 9, 2017 10:03 a.m.

    The meeting was on forming a future cyber security unit after hacking and distributing false news. The Donald has now given Putin standing equal to the United States which as requested. Someone needs to check into Swiss bank accounts very soon for money transfers.

  • LOU Montana Pueblo, CO
    July 9, 2017 8:38 a.m.

    None of this matters to Trump Supporters. They are the most blind loyal people to ever exist.

    Not sad but sickening!

  • Nate Pleasant Grove, UT
    July 9, 2017 8:28 a.m.

    @fullypresent "Do they really think the meeting was over adoption? "

    Do you have evidence that the meeting was over something other than adoption? Please post it here.

  • Nate Pleasant Grove, UT
    July 9, 2017 8:22 a.m.

    The sub headline is: "Partisan press operatives grasp at straws."

  • 10CC Bountiful, UT
    July 9, 2017 8:21 a.m.

    The President is proposing a strategic partnership with the Russians on cyber-security, to help prevent things like our election hacking. (Seriously.)

    Putin announced that Trump was satisfied with his questions about the election hacking - "we were not involved" - and they both agreed it's time to move forward on the election hacking issue.

    Very clearly, Trump trusts Putin's assurance far more than he trusts the US intelligence community.

    Look for Trump to give back to Russia the spy compound seized by Obama, when the previous president kicked out 35 Russian spies.

    How do Republicans in Utah line up on this issue?

    It's time for your voices to be heard.

  • Thid Barker Victor, ID
    July 9, 2017 8:04 a.m.

    Isn't it horrible that anyone would have a meeting with a Russian for any reason? "We don’t see things as they are, we see them as we are". Stephen Covey
    Mr Covey's quote will help you understand why liberals (including fake news) see corruption where it doesn't exist ( no evidence) but can not see it where it is rampant and obvious (Susan Rice, Eric Holder, Hillary and B. Obama, et al).

  • Fullypresent Salt Lake City, UT
    July 9, 2017 12:31 a.m.

    Should anyone be surprised? Do they really think the meeting was over adoption? Not hardly. The Trumps are about greed, abuse of power, and buying influence. Bad combination.

  • cjb Bountiful, UT
    July 8, 2017 10:03 p.m.

    I hear that Nevel Chamberlain a British prime minister met with Hitler. His successor, Churchill after this met the American president Roosevelt.

    Not certain what can be made of this, but there has got to be something we can pin onto Roosevelt if we imagine hard enough.