Preseason college football rankings are out: BYU, Utah and Utah State are all facing tough teams this fall

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  • Whatsnu Sandy, UT
    May 24, 2018 11:40 a.m.

    utemythology

    Some fans are like the blind man examining an elephant's tail and then proudly proclaiming that the evidence shows that an elephant is just like a rope.

    Try examining more than one little detail once in a while, and you might actually come up with pictures that are closer to reality.

  • ND95CA Lincoln Park, IL
    May 24, 2018 11:34 a.m.

    utemythology

    "Are you claiming BYU is a mid-level PAC-12 team?"

    YES!

    "2011 - #34 BYU, #38 Cal, #39 Utah, #41 ASU, #44 Wash, #64 Ariz, #66 UCLA, #83 WSU, #107 Col

    2012 - #26 BYU, #28 ASU, #31 UCLA, #33 USC, #44 Ariz, #52 Wash, #61 Utah, #78 Cal, #156 Col

    2013 - #25 BYU, #40 WSU, #75 Col, #118 Cal

    2014 - #56 BYU, #59 Cal, #81 WSU, #82 OSU, #98 Col

    2015 - #39 BYU, #41 ASU, #43 WSU, #55 Ariz, #90 Col, #106 OSU

    2016 - #36 BYU, #37 Utah, #58 Cal, #70 UCLA, #75 OSU, #77 Ore, #90 ASU, #102 Ariz

    2017 - #112 BYU, #130 OSU"

    Final Sagarin rankings the past 7 years prove that BYU has averaged finishing higher than five PAC 12 teams since 2011.

    Even in their worst season in the last 50 years, BYU finished ahead of one PAC 12 team.

    Excluding 2017, BYU's average end of season ranking has been #36, solidly in the middle of PAC 12 rankings.

    BYU was better than EIGHT PAC 12 teams in 2011, 2012 and 2016.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    May 24, 2018 3:53 a.m.

    Road Runner - Cedar City, UT
    May 23, 2018 7:12 p.m.
    utemythology

    Only in your dreams, LOL!

    -----

    Only in my dreams BYU over looks Utah State?

    I like your confidence! That's good you're focused on Utah State, if so 6-6 and a bowl is in play.

  • Who am I sir? Cottonwood Heights, UT
    May 23, 2018 10:55 p.m.

    @talkinsports

    "You're seriously tossing out the most interesting home opponent for 2018,
    and then making your most interesting home schedule comparison?"

    I did not include Cal because 1) several BYU fans said that other than Cal they doubted they could give their other tickets away 2) I, believe, almost everyone would recognize Cal as a good opponent (I have said as much in posts) - it is the remaining home schedule that some BYU fans have second thoughts about. 3) I hope I made clear my comparison and supported it with facts. Even if you don't agree with my approach!

    btw, last season's rankings are meaningless in analyzing this season's opponents. I challenge "meaningless". If I were going to prioritize criteria for preseason predictions it would be 1) last season performance 2) Losses to graduation or other causes 3) incoming recruiting class and 4) opponents in common with the prior year. Using this approach I agreed with the preseason picks in this article but surprised BYU was favored over No. Illinois and an underdog to UMass. The rest of what you said is obviously true about doubt anyone is the same as last year - but disagree with "meaningless"!

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    May 23, 2018 10:01 p.m.

    @Aunty
    Far from being the "weak link" in Utah's schedule, BYU has been one of the most consistently bright spots.

    BYU has finished ahead of 36 PAC 12 teams in 7 seasons, an average of more than 5 teams per season.

    --------------

    Are you claiming BYU is a mid-level PAC-12 team?

    Lets have a look:

    * BYU vs PAC-12: 4-11 27% (#12 Colorado 24% #11 Cal 29%)

    * BYU vs P5: 36% (#12 Colorado 33% #11 Cal 39%)

    No, BYU is clearly a bottom feeder.

  • Road Runner Cedar City, UT
    May 23, 2018 7:12 p.m.

    utemythology

    Only in your dreams, LOL!

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    May 23, 2018 6:00 p.m.

    Road Runner - Cedar City, UT
    May 23, 2018 5:18 p.m.
    jonny in the city

    “File them all under: Things Utah Fans Don't Worry About.”

    Only because you know that winning a division championship is so unlikely.

    -----------

    More likely than BYU winning the state championship. Please don't overlook Utah State.

  • Road Runner Cedar City, UT
    May 23, 2018 5:18 p.m.

    jonny in the city

    “File them all under: Things Utah Fans Don't Worry About.”

    Only because you know that winning a division championship is so unlikely.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    May 23, 2018 5:15 p.m.

    phantomblade - Salt Lake City, Utah
    May 23, 2018 11:30 a.m.
    utemythology

    According to FPI Projected W-L

    Utah (7-5) - 6.9 - 5.2
    BYU (5-7) - 4.7 - 7.3

    With BYU's upset win at RES, BYU and Utah will both finish 6-6, with BYU owning the tie-breaker.

    -------------

    In your fantasy, can pigs also fly?

    * FPI has Utah a favorite in 9 games, including 87% chance of beating BYU.

    * FPI has BYU a favorite in 4 games, including a 13% chance of beating Utah.

  • london_josh Lincoln, CA
    May 23, 2018 3:04 p.m.

    "File them all under: Things Utah Fans Don't Worry About."

    Do you also spend time commenting on sites about whether or not the sun will rise the next day?

    I hear your argument, but your actions drown out whatever logic you had. Clearly you care a lot, otherwise why are you here?

  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    May 23, 2018 2:10 p.m.

    "In fact, you'd be devastated if U won a PAC 12 division or conference championship, but lost to BYU."

    deep-sixed-blue:

    Just as we'd be equally devastated if the sun didn't come up in the east, or if a giant meteor hit the Earth.

    File them all under: Things Utah Fans Don't Worry About.

  • UoU 1991 Park City, UT
    May 23, 2018 2:07 p.m.

    DeepBlue

    "...you'd be devastated if U won a PAC 12 division or conference championship, but lost to BYU."

    It would be even more devastating if that happened this year.

    I can't even imagine the hysteria that would be caused on the hill by Utah losing at home to BYU after securing a berth in the CCG, especially to a BYU team coming off their worst season in the last 50 years.

    That would be apocalyptic.

  • DeepBlue Anaheim, CA
    May 23, 2018 1:42 p.m.

    azute1

    “Weakest P5 Conference” is 11-4 against BYU.

    “Weakest P5 Division” is 11-1 against BYU.

    “Weakest P5 Team” has beaten BYU 7 straight.

    Says a card carrying member of the 2nd most rival obsessed fan base in the country.

    The truth is, there's not a team on the planet that U love beating and hate losing to more than BYU.

    In fact, you'd be devastated if U won a PAC 12 division or conference championship, but lost to BYU.

  • Aunty Mythology Monrovia, CA
    May 23, 2018 1:33 p.m.

    utemythology

    "BYU is the weakest team, a bottom feeder, in the state."

    yawn

    2011 - #34 BYU, #38 Cal, #39 Utah, #41 ASU, #44 Wash, #64 Ariz, #66 UCLA, #83 WSU, #107 Col

    2012 - #26 BYU, #28 ASU, #31 UCLA, #33 USC, #44 Ariz, #52 Wash, #61 Utah, #78 Cal, #156 Col

    2013 - #25 BYU, #40 WSU, #75 Col, #118 Cal

    2014 - #56 BYU, #59 Cal, #81 WSU, #82 OSU, #98 Col

    2015 - #39 BYU, #41 ASU, #43 WSU, #55 Ariz, #90 Col, #106 OSU

    2016 - #36 BYU, #37 Utah, #58 Cal, #70 UCLA, #75 OSU, #77 Ore, #90 ASU, #102 Ariz

    2017 - #112 BYU, #130 OSU

    Far from being the "weak link" in Utah's schedule, BYU has been one of the most consistently bright spots.

    BYU has finished ahead of 36 PAC 12 teams in 7 seasons, an average of more than 5 teams per season.

    Even in their worst season in 50 years, BYU still finished ahead of one PAC 12 team.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    May 23, 2018 12:05 p.m.

    Big time challenges lead to big time opportunities. Let's hope the local teams can take advantage.

    Go Utes!

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    May 23, 2018 11:50 a.m.

    “Weakest P5 Conference” is 11-4 against byu-p.

    “Weakest P5 Division” is 11-1 against byu-p.

    “Weakest P5 Team” has beaten byu-p 7 straight & counting, 12/15, 17/25 & owns an insurmountable 60-34-4 overall record against byu-p.

    Midmajor forever.

    Who’s your Daddy?

    GO UTES!

  • phantomblade Salt Lake City, Utah
    May 23, 2018 11:30 a.m.

    utemythology

    According to FPI Projected W-L

    Utah (7-5) - 6.9 - 5.2
    BYU (5-7) - 4.7 - 7.3

    With BYU's upset win at RES, BYU and Utah will both finish 6-6, with BYU owning the tie-breaker.

  • blue n gold Redmond, WA
    May 23, 2018 11:04 a.m.

    utemythology

    Despite your always snarky comments about BYU,

    "... the Utes are still

    - the weakest team (fewest division championships)

    in

    - the weakest division (fewest conference championships)

    in

    - the weakest P5 (fewest national championships this century).

    ...the little red engine that couldn’t win WAC and MWC championships,

    can’t even win a division championship in the PAC 12."

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    May 23, 2018 10:55 a.m.

    @ND95CA

    BYU is the weakest team, a bottom feeder, in the state.

    According to FPI, Utah is a favorite in 9 games and BYU in 4.

    They give BYU a 13% chance of beating Utah and 45% chance of beating Utah State at LES.

    Good luck staying out of 5th place in the state.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    May 23, 2018 10:46 a.m.

    talkinsports - Gilbert, AZ
    May 23, 2018 9:32 a.m.
    utemythology

    "And BYU is 0-7 against the weakest team in PAC-12."

    The mighty weak PAC 12 utes have only beaten BYU ONCE, by more than a touchdown, in the last decade.

    -----

    Where should we mail your 0-7 trophy?

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    May 23, 2018 10:43 a.m.

    TroyTown - Anaheim, CA
    May 23, 2018 9:51 a.m.
    utemythology

    "In 2018, Utah is more than capable of 9-3."

    Utah will lose 3 to 4 games before reaching their traditional November meltdown.

    ---

    In November, we will give BYU a traditional beatdown.

  • ND95CA Lincoln Park, IL
    May 23, 2018 10:00 a.m.

    azute1

    Despite your frantic and emotional attempt to deflect,

    Marked it Down's analysis is spot on...

    "... the Utes are still

    - the weakest team (fewest division championships)

    in

    - the weakest division (fewest conference championships)

    in

    - the weakest P5 (fewest national championships this century).

    Even in your best season in the PAC 12,

    U finished with a losing record against PAC 12 South teams.

    As the PAC 12’s “Conference of Champions” mantra proclaims,

    athletic success in college sports is all about championships,

    and the little red engine that couldn’t win WAC and MWC championships,

    can’t even win a division championship in the PAC 12."

  • TroyTown Anaheim, CA
    May 23, 2018 9:51 a.m.

    utemythology

    "In 2018, Utah is more than capable of 9-3."

    Utah will lose 3 to 4 games before reaching their traditional November meltdown.

  • talkinsports Gilbert, AZ
    May 23, 2018 9:43 a.m.

    whoamu

    You're seriously tossing out the most interesting home opponent for 2018,

    and then making your most interesting home schedule comparison?

    btw, last season's rankings are meaningless in analyzing this season's opponents; it's doubtful that even a single team will finish with the exact same ranking that they had at the end of last season. Most of them won't even be close.

  • talkinsports Gilbert, AZ
    May 23, 2018 9:32 a.m.

    utemythology

    "And BYU is 0-7 against the weakest team in PAC-12."

    The mighty weak PAC 12 utes have only beaten BYU ONCE, by more than a touchdown, in the last decade.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    May 23, 2018 9:25 a.m.

    Marked it Down - Park City, UT
    May 23, 2018 6:53 a.m.
    azute1

    Regardless of your delusional, self-agrandizing spin, the Utes are still

    - the weakest team (fewest division championships)

    in

    - the weakest division (fewest conference championships)

    -----

    And BYU is 0-7 against the weakest team in PAC-12.

    How come?

    For BYU, we're like an NFL team.

  • Who am I sir? Cottonwood Heights, UT
    May 23, 2018 9:11 a.m.

    @BlueCoug

    "this 2018 home schedule: California, McNeese St, Utah St, Hawaii, No Illinois, New Mexico St"

    A more studied look at the schedule. Based on the final rankings for 2017 the home schedule grades out as this: California ranked 69th; McNeese St. ranked 15th in FCS; Utah State ranked 100th; Hawaii ranked 119th; No. Illinois ranked 58th; and New Mexico St. ranked 87th. (For your comparison of the 1970 schedule the 2017 rankings of Colorado State was 55th; Wyoming 65th; and New Mexico 118th)

    Summary: the average ranking in 2017 of the 4 FBS teams (excluding PAC-12 California) is 91st. Might be attractive for fans of the 111th ranked BYU.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    May 23, 2018 9:09 a.m.

    Swoop - Salt Lake City, UT
    May 23, 2018 8:15 a.m.
    utemythology

    "Look for Utah to finish ranked at 9-3."

    LOL!

    Only in your dreams.

    -----

    Utah was 2 points from 9-3 2014.

    Utah was 9-3 in 2015.

    Utah was 1 inch from 9-3 2016.

    2017 was a rebuilding year.

    In 2018, Utah is more than capable of 9-3.

    Lets see if you're still laughing when BYU starts 1-4.

  • Swoop Salt Lake City, UT
    May 23, 2018 8:15 a.m.

    utemythology

    "Look for Utah to finish ranked at 9-3."

    LOL!

    Only in your dreams.

  • Who am I sir? Cottonwood Heights, UT
    May 23, 2018 8:03 a.m.

    @BlueCoug

    "You're only fooling yourself if you think that this 2018 home schedule:

    California, McNeese St, Utah St, Hawaii, No Illinois, New Mexico St

    is less interesting than this 1970 home schedule:

    Colorado St, New Mexico, Utah St, Wyoming"

    I don't believe anyone is saying Cal. is not an "interesting" opponent. It's the other 5! IMO McNeese is in a class by itself. FCS! Where is the school? What conference? Utah State common to both years. In most minds, IMO, NMS is secondary to NM. Hawaii is a good away game. Great destination and an extra game - horrible record on mainland. N, Ill good record past few (5?) years but prior? What conference? Where located? (I know we play them but I have the same questions!) Certainly not as "interesting" as Wyo or Colo State-again, IMO.

    My conclusion - other than Cal. I would rather see Utah play BYU's 1970 schedule rather than their 2018. And I am not fooling myself!

  • Marked it Down Park City, UT
    May 23, 2018 6:53 a.m.

    azute1

    Regardless of your delusional, self-agrandizing spin, the Utes are still

    - the weakest team (fewest division championships)

    in

    - the weakest division (fewest conference championships)

    in

    - the weakest P5 (fewest national championships this century).

    Even in your best season in the PAC 12,

    U finished with a losing record against PAC 12 South teams.

    As the PAC 12’s “Conference of Champions” mantra proclaims,

    athletic success in college sports is all about championships,

    and the little red engine that couldn’t win WAC and MWC championships,

    can’t even win a division championship in the PAC 12.

  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    May 23, 2018 6:49 a.m.

    "says a fan of team that was two plays away from losing to BYU and Arizona and playing couch potato themselves"

    outscored:

    Still living the 'if' dream, eh? Well, two can play.

    Utah was 3 plays away from going 10-3 and ending the season ranked.

    Meanwhile, back in real life, Ute fans saw another winning season and another win over BYU-P, while coog fans got to celebrate another margin of defeat trophy and a Bottom 25 ranking.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    May 23, 2018 4:06 a.m.

    Utah can end up playing 4 top 25 teams. We gave a good chance at 2-3 wins, we are more than capable of beating Washington, USC, and Oregon at home. Stanford plays to our strengths, the game will be a toss up.

    Look for Utah to finish ranked at 9-3.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    May 23, 2018 3:55 a.m.

    @BlueHusky
    I think BYU will lose two or three games, but if teams think BYU will be a pushover, they'll get beat.

    ----

    BYU will lose 3 in September alone.

  • london_josh Lincoln, CA
    May 23, 2018 2:10 a.m.

    I wish BYU was only going to drop 2 or 3 games. Let's be realistic, it could be a 6-6 year. If BYU got 8 wins that would be amazing.

    I'm interested in seeing what grimes can do, but not banking on it year 1.

  • JD Las Vegas, NV
    May 23, 2018 12:41 a.m.

    I think the UTES are loaded, this is the most talented team Coach Whitt has fielded at Utah. The schedule is tough, but I do see Utah winning the South. Utah State has held it's own the past two seasons proving to be the second best team in the state of Utah. I also think Matt Wells has his best group he has ever had and they will compete for the Mtn West trophy, barring any big injuries. Weber State is the best kept secret in the state of Utah, they are doing things the right way in Ogden and the pay off with be another trip to the playoffs. I think BYU will struggle, recruiting is way down and taking a chance on an offensive coordinator that has never been an offensive coordinator before, spending 18 years at the same gig sounds suspect. Any time you implement a new offense, you are headed to a tough year. Throw in the fact that not any of the QB's look like they are ready to take the wheel, it will be another bowl-less year in Provo with losses yet again to both Utah State and Utah. Look for the Wildcats to make it to the semi-finals, look for the Aggies to be in the Vegas bowl, and look for the Utes to play in their first Rose Bowl. BYU will watch from home.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    May 22, 2018 11:10 p.m.

    “they'll continue to be a bottom feeder in that conference.”

    Going back 4 yrs to pt when we finally no longer had any Mwc recruits on our roster, we rattled off 3 consecutive yrs of having a winning conference record [only Usc/Stanford can equally make this claim during these 3 yrs].

    Then we lost nearly 20 kids to The Nfl, including 8 draftees, leading us to having a young/inexperienced squad last yr & thus leading to a 1 yr rebuild.

    Furthermore, it’s incredible how quickly byu-p fan claims we were “2 scores” away from not bowling, yet fails to pt out the fact we lost collectively by 7 pts against Stanford/@ Usc/@ Uw, & also lost to Wazzu by merely 8 pts....Why does byu-p fan fail to equally pt out our narrow Ls? As if we got blown-out every time we lost or something—Hysterical.

    4-9—-Lololololol

    Go Utes!

  • Scores Idaho Falls, ID
    May 22, 2018 10:43 p.m.

    Ask Coach Whittingham if 3 of his 4 toughest games are at home and see what he says. I already know he doesn't agree with you. With u it doesn't matter who you play or when...it's just a matter of time as to when they have a meltdown.
    Until the u can get past the part of the meltdown, they'll continue to be a bottom feeder in that conference.
    Be thankful another year is coming. It gives you a chance (slim) to improve.

  • Road Runner Cedar City, UT
    May 22, 2018 10:12 p.m.

    @CO Ute: “Still lots of trash talk from some fans of a team that didn’t get to a bowl last year...”

    says a fan of team that was two plays away from losing to BYU and Arizona and playing couch potato themselves during bowl week.

  • WACPaddingOurSchedule pocatello, ID
    May 22, 2018 8:35 p.m.

    toosmartforyou - Kaysville, UT
    May 22, 2018 5:10 p.m.
    Ha-ha-ha Preseason rankings are meaningless, unless you're a U fan and want to talk about how loud your stadium gets during a game. Or that they have been to two BCS games. They had the same chance as BYU to win a national championship in the 1980's----they have none. They have had the same, if not better chance from new conference exposure, to win a Heisman trophy----they have none. They have had an opportunity to play for the inaugural PAC12 Championship Game---they lost in SLC to the worst road team in Americas at the time, Colorado.

    We'll see how many of these "supposed" strong PAC12 teams do in bowls this year...
    _____

    More BYU logic.
    Yeah! Because BYUs season depends on how PAC12 teams will do in future bowl games. Perhaps you should think about how BYU can actually be in one again.
    Colorado, really? Why is BYU afraid to schedule them? We know why. BYU is 3-8-1 all time against them.

    BYU had every opportunity the past 7 seasons to beat Utah. Nope.
    BYU has every opportunity to beat ranked teams on national TV. Nope.
    BYU has almost every opportunity to join a P5 conference. Nope, nobody wants you.

  • BlueHusky Mission Viejo, CA
    May 22, 2018 7:14 p.m.

    Home schedule looks kind of weak but the overall schedule is tough. OTOH, Utah's home schedule is loaded with Wash and Oregon et al, which will give them a chance to pull an upset or two. Of course, they play BYU last game of the seasons, as it should be. And that will be the best game.

    Unlike you guys, I went to the spring game and I can guarantee that there will be absolutely no resemblance to last year. I watched every game last year. Every stinking game. Detmer's offense was terrible, then the injuries piled up. Like the Heaps debacles, reversed by Riley Nelson, the BYU team will be on a mission this year. And they will surprise some folks.

    I think BYU will lose two or three games, but if teams think BYU will be a pushover, they'll get beat.

    Meanwhile, I hope Washington is not reading all the pre-season hype they're getting. Go Dawgs, Go Cougs.

  • CO Ute Chandler, AZ
    May 22, 2018 6:37 p.m.

    Still lots of trash talk from some fans of a team that didn’t get to a bowl last year and has lost the heads up game 7 times straight. The new OC still doesn’t have much talent on the roster, big question mark at QB, and a number of good defenses to handle. Four games into the season and those same posters will be calling for Sitake’s head.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    May 22, 2018 6:32 p.m.

    toosmartforyou - Kaysville, UT
    May 22, 2018 5:10 p.m.
    Ha-ha-ha Preseason rankings are meaningless, unless you're a U fan and want to talk about how loud your stadium gets during a game. Or that they have been to two BCS games. They had the same chance as BYU to win a national championship in the 1980's----they have none.
    -------

    You're still 5th in state.

    You need to worry less about Utah in the PAC 10.2 and worry more about Utah State.

  • NeilT Ogden, UT
    May 22, 2018 5:25 p.m.

    If Michigan state can go from a three win season to a ten win season so can BYU. As far as the BYU, USU game love the rivalry. Rivalries are what college sports should be about. Go Aggies. Will gladly take any Y fans tickets.

  • Ufan Salt Lake City, UT
    May 22, 2018 5:24 p.m.

    CyCarloUte

    "Utes win the South this year, to[sic] much talent on the team for Wittingham[sic] to mess it up."

    Based on what?

    Our amazing string of 5th place finishes in the South.

    The Utes will be eliminated from the division race by mid-October, after losses to Washington, Stanford and USC.

  • BlueCoug Provo, UT
    May 22, 2018 5:12 p.m.

    LivinLarge

    "I have been a season regular at BYU football games since 1964 with Tommy Hudspeth as coach...the home schedule for this year is the least interesting of all time."

    I've been a season ticket holder since the stadium was expanded in 1982, and before that, a regular in the card stunt section.

    You're only fooling yourself if you think that this 2018 home schedule:

    California, McNeese St, Utah St, Hawaii, No Illinois, New Mexico St

    is less interesting than this 1970 home schedule:

    Colorado St, New Mexico, Utah St, Wyoming

    Yes, during the Tommy Hudspeth days, BYU actually had seasons in which they only played 4 home games.

    At the very least, BYU has a much better chance of going undefeated at home in 2017, than they did in 1970.

    Pick up a win or two on the road, and BYU will enjoy a nice rebound season and have a solid foundation to build on for 2019.

  • toosmartforyou Kaysville, UT
    May 22, 2018 5:10 p.m.

    Ha-ha-ha Preseason rankings are meaningless, unless you're a U fan and want to talk about how loud your stadium gets during a game. Or that they have been to two BCS games. They had the same chance as BYU to win a national championship in the 1980's----they have none. They have had the same, if not better chance from new conference exposure, to win a Heisman trophy----they have none. They have had an opportunity to play for the inaugural PAC12 Championship Game---they lost in SLC to the worst road team in Americas at the time, Colorado. Since joining the PAC10.2 they have had more OC's than any other team in the country, I'll give them that.

    We'll see how many of these "supposed" strong PAC12 teams do in bowls this year....last year they went 1 - 8, after U beat a "very good West Virginia team" that was mediocre. So bring on the season; we'll see if U can beat the good teams in SLC on a consistent basis; so far, they haven't. (Remember Oregon's win?)

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    May 22, 2018 4:20 p.m.

    Georgia shouldn't be behind Cryer and the buckies.

    BYU needs to go to the AAC...Independence has been a flop, even though many outside the state see more of them than they ever have.

    Excited for football...it needs to be September, like yesterday.

    That is all.

  • Who am I sir? Cottonwood Heights, UT
    May 22, 2018 3:41 p.m.

    @???? - Murray, UT

    "I think you mean BYU plays 4 ranked teams as well. They do play the mighty U. "

    The article is written as of pre-season rankings. However, I agree with you by seasons end. When USA Today sports article by Jason Lisk ranked Utah as the Number 25th team in its "Top 25 programs of the past 25 years" it said, "Utah has been ranked only twice in the preseason in the last 25 years, but ended there 8 times" Here is hoping this season proves to be twice ranked preseason and ending there 9 times!

  • Mark321 Eagle Mountain, UT
    May 22, 2018 3:40 p.m.

    @CyCarloUte

    "65 power Toss: byu has never played in the NY6 game. Utah has two, BS has 2."

    Not trying to be super critical, but Boise State has 3. Not 2.

    2006 vs Oklahoma
    2009 vs TCU
    2014 vs Arizona

  • Meckofahess Salt Lake City, UT
    May 22, 2018 3:21 p.m.

    @LivinLarge:

    You said: "I have been a season regular at BYU football games since 1964 with Tommy Hudspeth as coach...the home schedule for this year is the least interesting of all time. I doubt I will be able to even give some of the tickets away".

    BYU fan here - I'll take all the tickets you want to give away - thanks!

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    May 22, 2018 2:47 p.m.

    3 of our 4 toughest games are @ home & Stanford is hardly an intimidating venue.

    Just keep BL down to a low roar, as we accomplished last yr, w/the exception of merely 2 rushes, merely 1 for a TD.

    Our easiest home game by far & away is our final one, against a Bottom-10 bottom-feeder we’ve beaten 7 consecutive meetings, 12/15 &17/25....We also straight own them overall, tothe insurmountable tune of 60-34-4.

    I know, I know, byu-p fans infamously applaud/celebrate final margin of defeat against Big Brother....Moral Victory U—Lololololol

    Go Utes!

  • Jello is Good ,
    May 22, 2018 2:44 p.m.

    65,

    Right now they are relevant to me every week. When they were on national tv 2 or 3 times a year in the MWC they were only relevant to me 2 or 3 times a year.

  • Jello is Good ,
    May 22, 2018 2:44 p.m.

    65,

    Right now they are relevant to me every week. When they were on national tv 2 or 3 times a year in the MWC they were only relevant to me 2 or 3 times a year.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    May 22, 2018 2:33 p.m.

    “Compiled Poll Results: Loudest Pac-12 Stadium (1,086 votes)

    1. Autzen, 218
    2. Rice-Eccles, 193
    3. Husky, 172
    4. Coliseum, 111
    5. Reser, 104
    6. Sun Devil, 58
    7. Rose, 57
    8. Arizona, 44
    Folsom, 44
    10. Memorial, 32
    11. Stanford, 27
    12. Martin, 26”

  • london_josh Lincoln, CA
    May 22, 2018 2:23 p.m.

    "I have been a season regular at BYU football games since 1964 with Tommy Hudspeth as coach...the home schedule for this year is the least interesting of all time. I doubt I will be able to even give some of the tickets away."

    Cool beans eyore, but the thing is that home and home meetings vary from year to year.

    BYU has Cal at home early on, not a bad get, beyond that it's not a great line up, but worse than the MWC and the WAC? Not so sure about that.

    Next year BYU has Utah, USC, Washington and BSU. Last year BYU had big names also, as with the year before that, and you look into the future and there are great teams lined up. In 2 years you'll get Michigan state, Missouri, and Houston.

    So you get that is cyclical, but the insinuation that the visiting teams are worse than the past is laughable. Historically BYU got a single p5 visit each year, we've basically tripled that on average.

  • london_josh Lincoln, CA
    May 22, 2018 2:23 p.m.

    "I have been a season regular at BYU football games since 1964 with Tommy Hudspeth as coach...the home schedule for this year is the least interesting of all time. I doubt I will be able to even give some of the tickets away."

    Cool beans eyore, but the thing is that home and home meetings vary from year to year.

    BYU has Cal at home early on, not a bad get, beyond that it's not a great line up, but worse than the MWC and the WAC? Not so sure about that.

    Next year BYU has Utah, USC, Washington and BSU. Last year BYU had big names also, as with the year before that, and you look into the future and there are great teams lined up. In 2 years you'll get Michigan state, Missouri, and Houston.

    So you get that is cyclical, but the insinuation that the visiting teams are worse than the past is laughable. Historically BYU got a single p5 visit each year, we've basically tripled that on average.

  • 65TossPowerTrap Salmon, ID
    May 22, 2018 2:23 p.m.

    Re: Jello is Good

    I get that you like to watch BYU play West Virginia in Daniel Snyder's albatross stadium, but that could be done in a conference as well (BYU - Oklahoma). Independence has made BYU totally irrelevant when it could be a Top-25 team vying for NY-6 bowl games. I do agree that the AAC would be better than the MWC. AAC>MWC>Indie

  • CyCarloUte slc, UT
    May 22, 2018 2:22 p.m.

    Mt Rushmore:

    I rather polish the SOS trophy than the Worse Offense in the Nation Trophy you received last year.

    65 power Toss: byu has never played in the NY6 game. Utah has two, BS has 2.

    Living Large and Flatlander: Wait for the 2019 home schedule for byu, it's a good one.

    Utes win the South this year, to much talent on the team for Wittingham to mess it up.

  • Jello is Good ,
    May 22, 2018 1:49 p.m.

    I live in Maryland and get to a BYU home game maybe once every 3 years. I have, however, been to at least one away game every year. I also am able to and have watched every game on TV. The majority of BYU graduates and fans are just like me.

    When we were in the MWC I was able to watch at the most 4 games a year. So the stadium only has as many fans as attend a Ute game. Big deal. They make more money off the TV with ESPN and more fans have access.

  • Kralon HUNTINGTON BEACH, CA
    May 22, 2018 1:43 p.m.

    May all the Utah teams win every game until they play each other!

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    May 22, 2018 1:41 p.m.

    Byu will easily be the number one team this year in the State.

  • LivinLarge Bountiful, UT
    May 22, 2018 1:36 p.m.

    I have been a season regular at BYU football games since 1964 with Tommy Hudspeth as coach...the home schedule for this year is the least interesting of all time. I doubt I will be able to even give some of the tickets away.

  • Jello is Good ,
    May 22, 2018 1:33 p.m.

    @motorbike - Cottonwood Heights, UT
    May 22, 2018 12:28 p.m.

    65TossPowerTrap

    "No fan of the broncos, but they will be playing in many more NY-6 games than BYU and Utah combined."
    ----------
    "I'd rather be in a P5 conference but your statement about Boise St is absolutely true and I agree that BYU should do whatever it takes to make things right with the MWC and get back into that conference - there'd be little to no shame in doing so. Hard to blame BYU for trying Independence but the experiment needs to be over."

    --------------

    No thank you. Don't need to see that movie again. Why step back to a conference on the slide. If we are going to give up independence, at least go to the top G7 in the AAC.

  • flatlander Omaha, NE
    May 22, 2018 12:44 p.m.

    I got my season ticket request from the Y yesterday and when I looked at the schedule it is not worth the money. All the games in this article are away and only one Pac12 team at home, all the remaining games at home are not worth paying the price of admission. I do not see any sell outs this year even with the cheapest season ticket prices for a major college team.

  • Who am I sir? Cottonwood Heights, UT
    May 22, 2018 12:44 p.m.

    An additional thought:

    Take heart, fans of Utah football:

    9/15 University of Washington
    10/20 USC
    11/10 University of Oregon

    So, three of the four games will be played at RES. Add conference foes Arizona, Colorado and two instate schools, Weber State and BYU, and you have a great season of home games.

  • motorbike Cottonwood Heights, UT
    May 22, 2018 12:28 p.m.

    65TossPowerTrap

    "No fan of the broncos, but they will be playing in many more NY-6 games than BYU and Utah combined."
    ----------
    I'd rather be in a P5 conference but your statement about Boise St is absolutely true and I agree that BYU should do whatever it takes to make things right with the MWC and get back into that conference - there'd be little to no shame in doing so. Hard to blame BYU for trying Independence but the experiment needs to be over.

  • ???? Murray, UT
    May 22, 2018 12:11 p.m.

    I think you mean BYU plays 4 ranked teams as well. They do play the mighty U. How can they not be in the top 25. Every power 5 team is ranked in the top 25, right?

  • 65TossPowerTrap Salmon, ID
    May 22, 2018 12:00 p.m.

    If BYU didn't have that Indie ball and chain - they could be pushing BSU for the top G-5 spot and a chance to play in a NY-6 game. No fan of the broncos, but they will be playing in many more NY-6 games than BYU and Utah combined.

  • Who am I sir? Cottonwood Heights, UT
    May 22, 2018 11:48 a.m.

    A couple comments:
    1) All four of Utah's games mentioned in the article are conference games. All four are critical in determining if or what Bowl Utah will be eligible for!
    2) To evaluate the schedules of each of the schools the games not referenced in the article must be included.

    Can't wait! Good luck to all Utah schools - let the games begin (well, in 100 days!)

  • Mt Rushmore Arlington, VA
    May 22, 2018 11:04 a.m.

    Kids on the hill already polishing their SOS trophy.

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    May 22, 2018 10:59 a.m.

    Utah and its fans are fortunate to be in a conference that has national relevance and provides weekly excitement with an avenue to NY bowl game or the CFP. One year, the stars will align. I just hope I'm alive to see it.