Nice get and it adds to the developing pipeline of talent at that position. Now
hopefully coaches can develop that talent and build the depth there (unlike
when the previous head coach was there).
navel vet"You’re gonna be 'midmajors
forever'"The Utes have never been anything except
midmajors.It takes more that simply slapping a P5 sticker on your
helmet to be one of the big boys.Despite your arrogance, the Utes
aren't even capable of winning a division title in the weakest division
(fewest CCG wins), in the weakest P5 conference (fewest NC this century) in the
country.One of these days, Colorado football will once again develop
a steady pulse, and the Utes will move from mid-pac-major to pac-cellar-dweller.
I got to laugh at Both the BYU and Ute Bloggers here....You're
pathetic......neither of you has any room to brag!I don't want
to hear anything form either of you until:Utah wins a PAC 12 Title
and plays in the Rose Bowl,or BYU goes undefeated...
BlueHusky (cont.): “BYU plays nationally, and they're
beginning to recruit nationally.”The cougars have always got
kids from across the country, but so too does Utah. The difference is that the
majority of YOUR “national” recruits, are more of the
“2-star” flavor. Utah’s recruits are once again substantially
better.“BYU has been elite and will be again.”
Not really. You’re gonna be “midmajors forever”, and
can only hope to produce an “elite W/L record” when their SOS is at
its weakest. Same as it ever was.
BlueHusky (cont.):“Utah is a good university in a beautiful
setting. BYU is also a good university in a beautiful setting, but with national
exposure every week. ESPN is the key. Everybody knows something about BYU. WCC
also provides Cal exposure.”Utah IS a good university in a
beautiful setting, but the cougars are NOT! They’re a “WACish and
midmajory” school in a setting that takes a backseat to not only the UofU,
but to also Utah St as well. And no, playing at UMass, UConn, ECU, UCF, Cincy,
Houston, M Tenn, Toledo, NIU, or Memphis in a bowl game does NOT give you
“national exposure”! Not when hardly anybody is watching.
Utah’s Nielsen ratings are annually higher, so if ANY team in that state
gets to boast of “national exposure”, it’s your big brother on
the hill. Not you.
BlueHusky:“Utah toils in the 2nd tier of the PAC12, scheduling
Div 2 teams for ‘warm up’ then losing to the powers of the
PAC12.”Who exactly are the “powers of the PAC12”?
USC? Stanford? Oregon? Washington? Because since joining the Pac-12,
we’ve beaten a lot more of them than the cougars have, so I don’t
know what YOU’RE talking about. And FWIW, the indy-WACers have played
more FCS teams than we have. And you’ve played more
“midmajors” too. In fact, your SOS had been substantially weaker
than Utah’s in EVERY season since we’d left the MWC. Typical
hypocritical coug.“Utah will have a good year once in a while,
but they haven't had a good season since they joined the PAC12.”Utah finished ranked in the Final AP poll 3 consecutive years from
2014-16, and were co-champions of our division during that span. So
that’s 3 good, 2 mediocre, and 2 bad years. So in other words, you were
WallbangerUtah is 28-35 in PAC 12 games since joining the
conference, with four 5th place division finishes and zero division
championships.And that's with all of the revenue, recruiting
and scheduling advantages of playing in a P5 conference.Utah has
played the same teams in the same venues for 7 seasons, with half of the games
at home, yet you've still only won 44% of your conference games and
you've only beaten 9 conference opponents that finished with winning
records, barely more than 1 per season.As Pugman requested, "Please don't lecture us on embarrassing records."
@Wallbanger In all the years Utah has been in the Pac-12 your still many
games under 500. Please don't lecture us on embarrassing records.
Personally, I’d rather have byu in the PAC than Colorado. It makes the
rivalry a lot less meaningful when we’re not in the same conference.
That’s one reason I’m for dropping the game all together, and
playing our recruiting areas more with our OOC games.
“If football success, both recent and historical, had been the only
criteria, BYU would have been a lock over Utah and Colorado.”No they wouldn’t, at least not for the PAC 12 or the Big 10. You have to
be a ‘Tier 1 Research Institution’ as well for those conferences.
And byu is NOT one! BYU’s “recent and historical
success” in football must not be too impressive for those outside the
Provo Bubble. Especially the Big 12. That’s why you can’t get into a
P5, all the while belittling a league (PAC 12) you desperately wish you were a
part of, and have an embarrassingly losing record against.
I'm on record for loving independence. BYU plays all over the country. They
play multiple SEC teams. They have, if I counted right, 18 PAC-12 games are on
the schedule. They play games with Big Ten, Big Twelve, ACC.Utah
toils in the 2nd tier of the PAC12, scheduling Div 2 teams for "warm up"
then losing to the powers of the PAC12.Utah will have a good year
once in a while, but they haven't had a good season since they joined the
PAC12. Utah has only a local draw with some gets from California. How does Utah
get elite players from PAC12 states? California has 4 PAC12 teams; they get the
cream. Arizona, Oregon, Washington all have good to great teams. Even Idaho has
Boise State. How does Utah really succeed against those PAC12 teams? Once in a
while, maybe. Utah is a good university in a beautiful setting. BYU is also a
good university in a beautiful setting, but with national exposure every week.
ESPN is the key. Everybody knows something about BYU. WCC also provides Cal
exposure.BYU plays nationally, and they're beginning to recruit
nationally. Not to say Utah is a bad team, but they're not elite. BYU has
been elite and will be again.
When in doubt, speculate!Why don't we all get on with OUR lives
and just wait for the results from the field? Oh, I know it's fun but
nothing we say or do will have any effect on the games that will be played.🤗
Wallbanger“And all that “awesomeness” has gotten
you absolutely NOTHING! Except, a horrible knew-jerk decision by going
independent,”All of that “awesomeness” proves
beyond the shadow of a doubt that BYU’s lack of an invite to the PAC 12
had absolutely nothing to do with football success.If football
success, both recent and historical, had been the only criteria, BYU would have
been a lock over Utah and Colorado.
These are the Legacy kids on which BYU will rebuild it's program.
"If byu has another year like last year, “sheriff” Sitake may
not be around. Will Conover still stay committed?"He says BYU
has been his dream school and he's been a fan since he as a little boy.He also says that teams have ups and downs but he's still
committed.Players who believe that they'll have an impact
generally stay on that track. Conover according to Detmer went to 7 on 7 drills
with his own playbook that he'd made and brought.Read up on
him, this isn't exactly a feeble character or commitment - he made it early
and decisively. His intention is to win the QB position after Hall and Wilson
battle it out during his mission.By the way, Jaren Hall served in my
ward, about BYU's stumbles he said that it just makes him more anxious to
go back and contribute - I don't want a QB who want's a free ride in a
cushy program, I want the ones who have the heart of a champion.
I have the privilege and honor of knowing this youngman. He is a TRULY a Leader
ON and OFF the field. He is never afraid to show his faith in God in open
prayer when any player from his team or other team is hurt. He is kind
and friendly to the young and old after the game when they come to him to
congratulate him on his performance that night, whether win or lose. He is
an inspiration for my son, with autism, who is an assistant coach with the
Chandler Wolves.Jacob Conover is a GREAT youngman, leader, player, and
ambassador.NO I am not a BYU fan, but I will watch Jacob play with Gunner
as I know them both and think the world of them.
Sorry Jelly last post was for Walled in...
@Wallbanger - Spanish Fork, UTMay 15, 2018 12:35 p.m."And
all that “awesomeness” has gotten you absolutely NOTHING! Except, a
horrible knew-jerk decision by going independent, an extremely low number of
players sent to the NFL, a recent recruiting class at #90, no CFP rankings, the
firing of your former Heisman and last but not least, seven straight losses to
big brother. How’s all that working out for ya so far?"I'm good, you?
LonestarRunner:And all that “awesomeness” has gotten you
absolutely NOTHING! Except, a horrible knew-jerk decision by going independent,
an extremely low number of players sent to the NFL, a recent recruiting class at
#90, no CFP rankings, the firing of your former Heisman and last but not least,
seven straight losses to big brother. How’s all that working out for ya so
Sounds like a great young man and good Q.B. prospect for the future. BTW gotta
love it how the Ute trollers mock the Cougars for not having 4& 5 star rated
players across the board. But when they do get a high rated Q.B. they
immediately bring up Jake Heaps. Not every player lives up to the hype and
pressures put on them.
Y's Little Brother: "Remind us the last time a Utah 4-star QB recruit
accomplished anything of significance at the national level."Lester L. Wester: "Recruits don't accomplish anything..."LOL at how you dodged the challenge, because you know that the answer
would be... NEVER!Prove me wrong:When was
the last time a 4-star Utah QB accomplished anything of significance at the
national level - name, star rating, year and significant national level
wallbanger"Remind us the last time the Cougs accomplished
ANYTHING of significance on the national level. Mid 90s, or do we need to go ALL
the way back to the 80s?"2006 to 2009Four straight
Top 25 finishes in both polls - Utah has never had four straight Top 25
finishesThree 11+ win, Top 15 seasons - Utah has only had two
11+ win, Top 15 seasons in their entire historyTwo straight MWC
Championships - Utah has only had back-to-back conference championships
ONCE in the last SIX decades2001 - Doak Walker Award Winner
(Nation's Best RB)
Utes-Best Lil Brothers:Remind us the last time the cougs
accomplished ANYTHING of significance on the national level. Mid 90s, or do we
need to go ALL the way back to the 80s?If byu has another year like
last year, “sheriff” Sitake may not be around. Will Conover still
Ute's Little Brother: "Remind us the last time a Utah 4-star QB
recruit accomplished anything of significance at the national level."Recruits don't accomplish anything, except headlines in Provo. Get
back to us when he actually steps on the field. Three years is a long time away
to be so excited over a verbal commit. BYU-P's track record with
verbal commits hasn't been so great lately.
azute1Remind us the last time a Utah 4-star QB recruit accomplished
anything of significance at the national level.
@cjd1 - Draper, UTMay 14, 2018 11:35 p.m."BYU has been my
dream school since I was young". Sorry his commitment to BYU came long
before he met Sitake two years ago."---------------------But he was still considering other options. Otherwise why talk to Danny
White who, it appears, tried to convince him that football at ASU could be his
mission. Wherever he chooses to play football, the mission was the right call
and way more important then what school he plays for.
“The quarterback factory is back.”I thought it was back
w/J Heaps?Oh wait....How about w/T Mangum?Oh
wait....Then all of that 2 star talent surrounding him....Oh boy!GO UTES!
Or he could have gone to Alabama and found out if you don’t win the locker
room you sit the bench
I am pleased he committed to BYU and will look forward to the day when we can
watch him play. That being said I look forward to what coach Grimes puts
together this year and the growth of those already here.
"BYU has been my dream school since I was young". Sorry his commitment
to BYU came long before he met Sitake two years ago.
The quarterback factory is back.