BYU receives verbal commitment from 4-star quarterback prospect Jacob Conover (+highlights)

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  • Lone*Star Austin, TX
    May 17, 2018 1:37 p.m.

    utemythology

    "Utah proved that we were a national contender by destroying SEC Alabama in the Sugar Bowl. Impressed enough to garner AP 16 first place votes"

    yawn

    U beat a completely unmotivated and disinterested team by 14 points, a team that sleep-walked through the first half and never took the flash-in-the-pan Utes seriously.

    Florida, the team that actually won the National Championship got THREE times as many first place votes as Utah in the AP, and in the Coaches poll, the official BCS Championship poll, Utah finished 4th, with only 1 first place vote.

  • Aunty Mythology Monrovia, CA
    May 17, 2018 12:54 p.m.

    utemythology

    "My bad, you are correct in 1985 BYU did beat #8 Air Force (12-1) which was your best win. Utah 8-4 was your 2nd best win.

    Correct me if I'm wrong, your next major win would be #3 Miami in 1990 then #17 Kansas State in 1996, which was your last top 25 P5 win."

    LOL at how you ALWAYS choose the lowest possible ranking for BYU and its opponents, but ALWAYS choose the highest possible ranking for Utah and its opponents.

    I'm completely ignoring your P5 caveat, since it's completely arbitrary with you.

    Pitt wasn't a P5 in 2004 and TCU and BYU weren't P5 in 2008, yet you didn't distinguish those wins from your OSU and Alabama wins.

    BYU beat #8/#5 Air Force in 1985
    beat #19 Texas in 1987
    beat then #1/#1, finished #3/#3 Miami in 1990
    beat #25/#24 Air Force and tied #10/#10 Iowa in 1991
    beat #24/#22 Fresno State and #25 Penn St in 1992
    beat #22/#22 Wyoming and #17/#17 Kansas St in 1996
    beat #14/#14 ASU in 1997
    beat #22/#21 TCU in 2006
    beat #18/#18 Utah in 2009
    beat #16/#17 Utah St in 2012

    btw, Utah didn't beat #3 Alabama in 2008, U beat #6/#6 Alabama

    Equally important, BYU didn't constantly lose to conference bottom dwellers, like U has always done.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    May 17, 2018 10:45 a.m.

    @Aunty

    Let's not forget that you barely beat New Mexico (4-8) 13-10, and the voters were so unimpressed with your three narrow Top 25 upset wins at home, that they only ranked your then 12-0 team 7th in both final regular season polls.

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    The only thing that matters in the regular season was the final BCS poll, Utah finished 6th to auto qualify. BYU never finished higher than #14.

    In the BCS era, what was your OVERRATED 12-0 2001 team ranked before you got pounded by Hawaii 72-45 and rejected for a BCS bowl?

    The difference, Utah proved that we were a national contender by destroying SEC Alabama in the Sugar Bowl. Impressed enough to garner AP 16 first place votes.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    May 17, 2018 10:32 a.m.

    @Aunty Mythology

    My bad, you are correct in 1985 BYU did beat #8 Air Force (12-1) which was your best win. Utah 8-4 was your 2nd best win.

    Correct me if I'm wrong, your next major win would be #3 Miami in 1990 then #17 Kansas State in 1996, which was your last top 25 P5 win.

  • Marked it Down Park City, UT
    May 16, 2018 1:24 p.m.

    uteMYTHology

    On Oct. 26, 1985, the then-No. 7 ranked Cougars — the defending national champions — fell to lowly, previously winless UTEP, 23-16, in El Paso. Just how stunning was UTEP's victory? BYU was a 35-point favorite. UTEP registered one of the biggest, and most improbable, upsets in college football history.. The Miners went on to post a 1-10 record in '85.

    On Nov. 16, 1985, BYU played the most successful team in Air Force football history. Under second-year coach Fisher DeBerry, the Falcons came within one win of playing for the national championship. They recorded 10 straight wins to start the season, climbed the polls to #2 in the nation, but lost to BYU 28–21 in the penultimate game of the regular season. Air Force finished #5/#8 in the final polls after beating Texas (8-4) in the Blue Bonnet Bowl.

    BYU's loss to UTEP was one of those inexplicable upsets.

    BYU's three straight wins (1983 to 1985) over a Top 25 Air Force team were solid wins against a very good program in the midst of its greatest success in history.

  • Aunty Mythology Monrovia, CA
    May 16, 2018 1:14 p.m.

    uteMYTHology

    "Lets not forget the 2008 team beat FOUR final ranked teams."

    yawn

    Let's not forget that you barely beat New Mexico (4-8) 13-10, and the voters were so unimpressed with your three narrow Top 25 upset wins at home, that they only ranked your then 12-0 team 7th in both final regular season polls.

  • Aunty Mythology Monrovia, CA
    May 16, 2018 1:08 p.m.

    uteMYTHology

    "And your 1984 NC was only 6 points better than 3-7-1 Pitt. So what?"

    Pitt was good enough to destroy Penn St in their season finale,

    and Penn St was good enough to beat #16 Iowa and #5 Boston College.

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    "Your best win [in 1985] was 8-4 Utah."

    LOL at how clueless that claim is.

    BYU beat then #2, finished #5/#8, Air Force (12-1), THE best team in Air Force history, a team that had won 10 straight games and was on the verge of playing for the national championship.

    Utah was still a decade away from cracking the AP poll for the very first time.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    May 16, 2018 12:11 p.m.

    BlueCoug - Provo, UT
    May 15, 2018 3:07 p.m.
    azute1

    "On Oct. 26, 1985, the then-No. 7 ranked Cougars — the defending national champions — fell to lowly, previously winless UTEP, 23-16, in El Paso. Just how stunning was UTEP's victory? BYU was a 35-point favorite. UTEP registered one of the biggest, and most improbable, upsets in college football history.. The Miners went on to post a 1-10 record in '85."

    yawn...

    Nothing but a minor hiccup in an 11-3, #16/#17 ranked season.

    BYU started the season beating 1984 #5 Boston College in the Kickoff Classic, then demolishing 1984 #2 Washington.

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    You beat two cupcakes.

    4-8 Boston College
    7-5 Washington

    Your best win was 8-4 Utah.

    BYU was overrated, your next major since 1983 UCLA would be in 1990 Miami.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    May 16, 2018 12:05 p.m.

    @london_posh - Lincoln, CA

    Although about those facts, Utah has finished 5th 4 of 7 years in the PAC south including last year and the 3 years where Utah didn't finish 5th place has A Rod as OC for 2 of those 3 years yet you blame him for Utah's offensive struggles.

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    ARod was a major reason for our inept offense, in particular the passing game.

    If you disagree then BYU should make him the OC. Since he has more P5 OC experience than Grimes.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    May 16, 2018 11:52 a.m.

    Aunty Mythology - Monrovia, CA
    May 15, 2018 12:40 p.m.
    utemythology

    "And the week before you were only ONE point better than 0-12 Washington 28-27."

    LOL!

    Let's not forget that the week after, BYU shut out Wyoming 44-0,

    while the week after Utah beat UCLA 44-6 at home in 2007,

    Utah was shut out by UNLV 0-27.

    Let's also not forget that the week before Utah squeaked past TCU 13-10 in 2008,

    the Utes were only 3 points better than New Mexico (4-8) 13-10.

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    And your 1984 NC was only 6 points better than 3-7-1 Pitt. So what?

    Lets not forget the 2008 team beat FOUR final ranked teams.

    BYU has SEVEN top-25 wins in your entire history.

  • Road Runner Cedar City, UT
    May 15, 2018 3:51 p.m.

    azute1:

    "Let’s not stop there, ‘85 produced a real Zinger, smack in the middle of BYU’s “glory yrs”.

    The real "zinger" occurred in an 11-3, #16/#17, conference championship winning season that makes almost every season in Utah history pale by comparison.

    I can count on TWO fingers the number of seasons that Utah has:

    - been ranked in the Top 17 in both major polls
    - won at least 11 games
    - won a conference championship

    Add to that a win over #5/#8 Air Force (12-1), the most successful team in Air Force history, plus wins over two contenders for the 1984 National Championship - Boston College and Washington.

  • Marked it Down Park City, UT
    May 15, 2018 3:37 p.m.

    @azute1: "UTEP registered one of the biggest, and most improbable, upsets in college football history."

    @BlueCoug: "Remind us how many 11+ win, Top 16, conference championship seasons the Utes have had... EVER!"

    That would be TWO - 2004 and 2008

    Bottom line:

    The year AFTER BYU won the 1984 National Championship, in a "disastrous" season for BYU

    (according to azute1),

    BYU had a more successful season than 122 of Utah's 124 seasons.

  • london_josh Lincoln, CA
    May 15, 2018 3:10 p.m.

    "I never make excuses, but rather merely state facts....If you don’t want to hear facts, talk w/your fellow byu-p fans for eliciting them....Excuses only originate from tds, period."

    meet you old comment of:

    "Fifth place for us has occurred previously once since we finally had our roster totally full of PAC. recruits four yrs ago and that was last yr after losing so much NFL talent and having to rebuild with a young inexperienced QB in a brand new O."

    Although about those facts, Utah has finished 5th 4 of 7 years in the PAC south including last year and the 3 years where Utah didn't finish 5th place has A Rod as OC for 2 of those 3 years yet you blame him for Utah's offensive struggles.

    Here you are making up stats and excuses while lecturing others on how you do neither.

  • BlueCoug Provo, UT
    May 15, 2018 3:07 p.m.

    azute1

    "On Oct. 26, 1985, the then-No. 7 ranked Cougars — the defending national champions — fell to lowly, previously winless UTEP, 23-16, in El Paso. Just how stunning was UTEP's victory? BYU was a 35-point favorite. UTEP registered one of the biggest, and most improbable, upsets in college football history.. The Miners went on to post a 1-10 record in '85."

    yawn...

    Nothing but a minor hiccup in an 11-3, #16/#17 ranked season.

    BYU started the season beating 1984 #5 Boston College in the Kickoff Classic, then demolishing 1984 #2 Washington.

    Three weeks after the UTEP upset, on November 16, 1985, BYU played the most successful team in Air Force football history. Under second-year coach Fisher DeBerry, the Falcons came within one win of playing for the national championship. They recorded 10 straight wins to start the season, climbed the polls to #2 in the nation, but lost to BYU 28–21 in the penultimate game of the regular season.

    BYU lost 3 games in 1985 by a total of 9 points, two of those

    #7/#6 UCLA (9-2-1) 24-27

    14/#11 Ohio State (9-3) 7-10 in the Citrus Bowl.

    Remind us how many 11+ win, Top 16, conference championship seasons the Utes have had...

    EVER!

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    May 15, 2018 1:11 p.m.

    Speaking of ‘08, what was the final result of The Holy War that yr?

    Let’s not stop there, ‘85 produced a real Zinger, smack in the middle of byu-p’s “glory yrs”—

    “On Oct. 26, 1985, the then-No. 7 ranked Cougars — the defending national champions — fell to lowly, previously winless UTEP, 23-16, in El Paso. Just how stunning was UTEP's victory? BYU was a 35-point favorite. UTEP registered one of the biggest, and most improbable, upsets in college football history.. The Miners went on to post a 1-10 record in '85.”

    😂 Lol

    Go Utes!

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    May 15, 2018 1:05 p.m.

    “Go post your sorry excuses where people will play violin music for you.”

    Zinger! Boy, you sure stuck it to me there!

    I never make excuses, but rather merely state facts....If you don’t want to hear facts, talk w/your fellow byu-p fans for eliciting them....Excuses only originate from tds, period.

    For instance, all kinds of excuses emanating out of provo due to the following—

    7 straight & counting & 12/15 & 17/25 & the insurmountable overall record of 60-34-4.

    Midmajor forever.

    Who’s your Daddy?

    Go Utes!

  • Aunty Mythology Monrovia, CA
    May 15, 2018 12:40 p.m.

    utemythology

    "And the week before you were only ONE point better than 0-12 Washington 28-27."

    LOL!

    Let's not forget that the week after, BYU shut out Wyoming 44-0,

    while the week after Utah beat UCLA 44-6 at home in 2007,

    Utah was shut out by UNLV 0-27.

    Let's also not forget that the week before Utah squeaked past TCU 13-10 in 2008,

    the Utes were only 3 points better than New Mexico (4-8) 13-10.

  • Striker Omaha, NE
    May 15, 2018 12:26 p.m.

    Uteology,
    Western Michigan, Vegas? Pure humor! Man that's good stuff. Not at all related to the points at hand. I can always rely on this stuff for a guaranteed laugh! They come up with anything to heal themselves over the FACT a 4-star man committed to BYU.

    Alright, enough of this thread. The craziness is just too much!

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    May 15, 2018 11:42 a.m.

    Striker - Omaha, NE
    May 15, 2018 9:01 a.m.
    "And yes, in 5th place merely once in the last 4 yrs of us being on equal footing w/our Pac-12/P5 comrades, which was an obvious rebuilding yr last yr."

    Excuses, all of them. TCU and Colorado have made it farther than u, so your excuses are weak.

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    Western Michigan has made it farther than BYU, so your excuses are weak.

    Colorado is 29-48 33% in the PAC-12.

    Utah is 55-36 61% in the PAC-12, including 6 wins over the cupcake down south.

    What's your excuse for finishing 5th in the state? Rain? Refs?

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    May 15, 2018 11:28 a.m.

    Road Runner - Cedar City, UT
    May 15, 2018 10:51 a.m.
    utemythology

    "Chow took MWC talent, including a D2 QB, and helped Utah go 8-5 (4th best in P12 overall) in year 1. "

    yawn...

    Chow took PAC 12 talent (UCLA) and helped the Bruins to a 59-0 shut out loss at BYU in 2008, handing the Bruins their worst defeat since losing to USC 76-0 in 1930.

    The amazing thing is, the game wasn't even as close as the final score. BYU called off the dogs in the 4th Q.

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    And the week before you were only ONE point better than 0-12 Washington 28-27.

    And #16 BYU you got humiliated by 7-5 Arizona in Vegas.

    BYU would have been a bottom feeder in 2008 if they had to play 11 P5 teams with MWC talent like Utah did in 2011. Which was the original point.

  • Road Runner Cedar City, UT
    May 15, 2018 10:51 a.m.

    utemythology

    "Chow took MWC talent, including a D2 QB, and helped Utah go 8-5 (4th best in P12 overall) in year 1. "

    yawn...

    Chow took PAC 12 talent (UCLA) and helped the Bruins to a 59-0 shut out loss at BYU in 2008, handing the Bruins their worst defeat since losing to USC 76-0 in 1930.

    The amazing thing is, the game wasn't even as close as the final score. BYU called off the dogs in the 4th Q.

  • Striker Omaha, NE
    May 15, 2018 9:01 a.m.

    "And yes, in 5th place merely once in the last 4 yrs of us being on equal footing w/our Pac-12/P5 comrades, which was an obvious rebuilding yr last yr."

    Excuses, all of them. TCU and Colorado have made it farther than u, so your excuses are weak. Besides, what does any of that have to do with a 4 star recruit? Nothing. Go post your sorry excuses where people will play violin music for you.

  • Utes-Best Lil Brothers Anaheim, CA
    May 15, 2018 8:46 a.m.

    azute1

    "And yes, in 5th place merely once in the last 4 yrs of us being on equal footing..."

    LOL at your cherry-picked timeline.

    Desperate Utah fans looking for even the slightest ray of hope, survey the barren landscape of Ute "accomplishments", then come up with a whiny excuse why they're only counting accomplishments within a very narrow, self-serving time frame.

    The truth is, Utah will NEVER be on "equal footing" with the big boys of the PAC 12.

    USC, UCLA, Stanford, Washington and Oregon will ALWAYS out recruit U over any given 4-year period.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    May 15, 2018 8:03 a.m.

    “I'd say 5th place is the double-wide trailer that Utah fans occupy in the PAC south region. You've been at that magic number 4 out of 7 seasons.”

    You clearly failed to comprehend the entirety of my 100% factual comment.

    I suggest you find somebody who can explain it to you.

    And yes, in 5th place merely once in the last 4 yrs of us being on equal footing w/our Pac-12/P5 comrades, which was an obvious rebuilding yr last yr.

    And yes, Arod was straight atrocious, period.

    Nice try.

    Go Utes!

  • london_josh Lincoln, CA
    May 15, 2018 1:42 a.m.

    "Fifth place for us has occurred previously once since we finally had our roster totally full of PAC."

    I'd say 5th place is the double-wide trailer that Utah fans occupy in the PAC south region. You've been at that magic number 4 out of 7 seasons.

    I wouldn't say once when it's your norm, nor make excuses about fully getting a PAC roster, because it happened last year also.

    As for A Rod on your offensive staff, Whttingham has had Andy Ludwig, Brian Johnson, Norm Chow, Dave Schramm, Dave Christensen, Dennis Erickson, Aaron Roderick (x2), Jim Harding and Troy Taylor as OCs.

    Troy Taylor had Utah as 10th in scoring offense in the PAC, previous year was 8th. 7th in overall offense, rushing went from 3rd to 7th, passing went from 9th to 6th but still 10th in passing efficiency.

    The funny thing is that the numbers don't change much over the years. But of course it's all A Rod's fault. Haw dare he have contributed to the bumps in the Utes accomplishments. Think about it, as OC Utah had 2 of the 4 best seasons, with other OCs they basically always get 5th place.

    But the defense is great, special teams is worth watching, and your kickers rock!

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    May 14, 2018 10:29 p.m.

    “Oh I see...typical 5th place division finish vs tied for first. Yeah I see where you were going there. Lolololololol”

    Nice try

    Fifth place for us has occurred previously once since we finally had our roster totally full of PAC. recruits four yrs ago and that was last yr after losing so much NFL talent and having to rebuild with a young inexperienced QB in a brand new O.

    Arods greatest failure was as our QBs coach.

    Prime ex was reducing Travis Wilson from an Elite ii serious NFL QB prospect into a NFL TE instead.

    GO UTES!

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    May 14, 2018 10:10 p.m.

    robo:
    "Guess who was also 6'0"? Riley Nelson. Always comical when someone points to the 1 in a 1,000 example to make a broad argument. Then even throws out a silly criticism of someone being short-sighted..."

    First of all...1 in 1,000? I can name in 5 seconds multiple Heisman trophy winners, national champions, all conference, and all-american QBs who were less than 6'1. You act like this is a rarity...it isn't. In 2016 the #2 DT QB recruit in America was a 5'11 QB who's currently vying to start at Ohio State. Penn State has an all-conference QB guiding them who's less than 6'0. The defending national champion will be starting a 6'0 QB this year. The reigning Heisman winner is less than 6'0, and the first freshman to win it at QB was 6 feet. Do you need me to go on because I can.

    Second of all, where did I "throw out a silly criticism" about being short-sighted? Maybe someone else did? Don't take any of this personal...you were wrong, there are plenty of examples of great CFB QBs who were 6'1 or less. Own it and move on.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    May 14, 2018 9:50 p.m.

    Uteology:
    "Utah over-performed with Chow as compared to OC BJ (a mistake) and ARod (even a bigger mistake) while transitioning to the PAC-12.

    "...Chow had one year at Utah, to say he failed miserably is false and I clearly said if he stayed at Utah, we would have had an PAC-12 offense by now. He was a proven P5 OC.
    But I do agree, the biggest problem on offense has been Kyle Whittingham."

    -----------------
    I'm glad we can agree on something. My statement about Utah history not boding well for ANY OC including Taylor is Kyle Whittingham...because you're right, he won't give them a long leash or a chance to succeed without firing them.

    As for ARod, in 2010 Utah was 52nd in total off, 47th in pass off, and 23rd in scoring off. He was again CoOC and QB coach in 2015-16 when Utah went 10-3 but under Whitt's hamstringing the offense was 97th in tot off, 49th in pass off, and 52nd in scoring off (all better one year stats than Chow, with both MWC and P5 talent). So again...this isn't an ARod/Chow problem, this is a Utah/KW problem. And that was my point about Chow having success everywhere but Utah. I wish Taylor and Tuttle good luck, they'll need it so long as KW is the HC.

  • london_josh Lincoln, CA
    May 14, 2018 8:03 p.m.

    @robo

    Please call up Nick Saban at Alabama and tell him that this QB is too short to be effective and Saban shouldn't have given him an offer.

    Offers are from Alabama, Ariozona, ASU, Memphis, Ole Miss, Nevada, Northwestern, Oregon State, South Carolina, USU, WSU, North Carolina, Stanford, Wisconsin.

    That's a lot of schools that you think got this kid wrong.

    I'm kind of going to side with the more likely opinion, he's probably a great QB.

    Russel Wilson is 5'11", the shortest QB in the NFL, most NFL QBs are 6'3" or 6'4", but 6'1" isn't a disqualifier and he might get another inch or two at his age.

    BYU fans in general are thrilled, i see no reason to be so negative about this. His next goal is to be a good missionary, then his goal is to be a good CFB QB, then the NFL - looks like a lot of smart HCs like this kid.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    May 14, 2018 7:58 p.m.

    @Coug

    So I give you statistics clearly showing that Chow was a miserable failure at Utah, and the first thing you do is ask how or what he did at UCLA or BYU? YOU are the one that was singing his praises about how well he developed QBs...I said, "except at Utah"...and now you want to walk back your argument by adding all these P5, SOS, D2 QB, but-this, but-that qualifiers as if he didn't have injuries and difficult schedules at NCState, UCLA, and USC?

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    NC State, UCLA, USC already had P5 talent.

    FACT: Utah and TCU struggled to build P5 depth as we transitioned from MWC.

    Which is why I clearly said:

    "Chow took MWC talent, including a D2 QB, and helped Utah go 8-5 (4th best in P12 overall) in year 1. "

    Utah over-performed with Chow as compared to OC BJ (a mistake) and ARod (even a bigger mistake) while transitioning to the PAC-12.

    That isn't debatable. Chow had one year at Utah, to say he failed miserably is false and I clearly said if he stayed at Utah, we would have had an PAC-12 offense by now. He was a proven P5 OC.

    But I do agree, the biggest problem on offense has been Kyle Whittingham. Thankfully, he fired ARod and brought in a Troy Taylor.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    May 14, 2018 7:40 p.m.

    Cougsndawgs - West Point , UT
    May 14, 2018 4:52 p.m.
    Utemyth:
    "BYU already has 4 committed in the 2019 class. If BYU follows Utah's strategy and waits, they might lose that 2-star talent to D2 teams".

    As obsessed as you are with all things BYU you would at least think you'd have even a fraction of your facts straight. As of right now BYU has EIGHT committed for '19, all of which are 3 & 4 star commits according to the 247 composite...

    So it would appear despite your desperate spin to the contrary, BYU's recruiting is nowhere near a 2 star avg right now, and ranks in the top 30 surrounded by other P5 programs with similar numbers of commits and avg stars/scores.

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    The article quoted Rivals. So per Rivals: 2 ****, 1 ***, 4 **

    You welcome!

  • gchris rock springs, wy
    May 14, 2018 6:28 p.m.

    Another great Utah article. I know that because so many of the comments are about them. I think this is a great get for the Cougars. I only have two words for those who think he is too short—McMahon and Young.

  • JustGordon Salt Lake City, UT
    May 14, 2018 5:37 p.m.

    Wow! This poor young man has been given some very big shoes to fill! As one of the rare 4 stars to sign in Provo, he’s now being heralded as the reincarnation of several other school greats! And the poor kid hasn’t played his senior year or done his mission! Our little blue brothers are surely desperate for something positive to talk about!

    In truth 75% or more of the players currently on their roster won’t be there when he enrolls! If I were a fan, I’d be worried about 4 star linemen on both sides of the ball. The hogs are who make or break a qb!

  • zipadeedoodah Lehi, UT
    May 14, 2018 5:29 p.m.

    Yahoo! I am excited for the prospect of a top notch quarterback for BYU. And I hope they have 3-4 depth in that critical position.

  • But seriously folks! Salt Lake City, UT
    May 14, 2018 5:27 p.m.

    Verbal or not the real problem for ute fans is that a 4 star player didn't even consider utah. I am guessing there is a good reason for that.

    If he stays with his commitment BYU wins out over many real p5 schools and also some schools that are in p5 conferences but are pretenders, like the one in slc.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    May 14, 2018 4:52 p.m.

    Utemyth:
    "BYU already has 4 committed in the 2019 class. If BYU follows Utah's strategy and waits, they might lose that 2-star talent to D2 teams".

    As obsessed as you are with all things BYU you would at least think you'd have even a fraction of your facts straight. As of right now BYU has EIGHT committed for '19, all of which are 3 & 4 star commits according to the 247 composite. BYU's avg score per recruit is 84.54 which is comparable to many P5 programs including TCU, Minnesota, Iowa, Boston College, Baylor, Iowa State, Oklahoma St, Cal, Northwestern, Colorado, Nebraska, WVU, Kentucky, GT, UNC, NCSt, Arkansas, Mizzou...I also didn't list programs with only 3 or 4 commits but ones that had similar number of commits.

    So it would appear despite your desperate spin to the contrary, BYU's recruiting is nowhere near a 2 star avg right now, and ranks in the top 30 surrounded by other P5 programs with similar numbers of commits and avg stars/scores.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    May 14, 2018 4:10 p.m.

    Deep Blue and Michigan:
    I tried earlier to point out how 6'1 or less QBs were instrumental in a Big 12 championship, the CFP, the Heisman trophy, and the National Championship. It doesn't seem to be sinking in from my post 60 or so comments ago so I doubt it will now. Just trying to save you some frustration (some Ute "fans" would hate on a 6'6 guy who runs a 4.4 40 if he wore blue...is what it is).

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    May 14, 2018 4:00 p.m.

    Utemyth:
    "How was Chow at UCLA?

    When did Chow play 10-11 P5 teams with a D2 QB at BYU?

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    So I give you statistics clearly showing that Chow was a miserable failure at Utah, and the first thing you do is ask how or what he did at UCLA or BYU? YOU are the one that was singing his praises about how well he developed QBs...I said, "except at Utah"...and now you want to walk back your argument by adding all these P5, SOS, D2 QB, but-this, but-that qualifiers as if he didn't have injuries and difficult schedules at NCState, UCLA, and USC? Either he was a great QBC/OC or he wasn't. Either you're wrong that he wasn't a great QBC/OC, or you're right that he was but despite that he curiously failed at Utah, like so many other OCs have.

    Now you can offer up all kinds of excuses, but you'll have to offer them up for all 10 or so (who can keep track at this point) of the OCs Utah hasn't been able to do anything with. So like I said: Is it a Chow, Arod, Erickson problem? Nope, probably more of a Utah/Kyle Whittingham problem. You know it's kind of the "everyone's out of step except me" scenario.

  • london_josh Lincoln, CA
    May 14, 2018 3:27 p.m.

    "6'1" is hardly 4 star anything especially a QB. Maybe 6'3" but not 6'1". Sorry but size matters."

    Keep in mind that Conover might still grow an inch or two, but:

    Historic BYU
    Steve Young 6'2"
    Jim McMahon 6'1"
    Robbie Bosco 6'2"
    Ty Detmer 6'0"
    Taysom Hill 6'2"
    Sarkersian 6'0"
    Doman 6'1"
    Max Hall 6'1"
    Jake Heaps 6'1"

    Current BYU
    Tanner Mangum 6'3"
    Stacy Conner 6'5"
    Kody Wilstead 6'6"
    Joe Critchlow 6'4"
    Zach Wilson 6'3"

    Current Utah
    Tyler Huntley 6'1"
    Drew Lisk 6'1"
    Jason Shelley 5'11"
    Tuttle 6'3"

    So aside from some tall QBs at BYU, 6'1" isn't a problem.

  • DeepBlue Anaheim, CA
    May 14, 2018 3:25 p.m.

    patriot

    "6'1" is hardly 4 star anything especially a QB. Maybe 6'3" but not 6'1". Sorry but size matters."

    Tua Tagovailoa, who QB'ed Alabama to the 2017 National Championship, is 6'1"

    Baker Mayfield, #1 pick in the 2018 NFL draft, is 6'1"

    Quite obviously, you don't have a clue how much "size" is needed to be a successful QB.

  • deductive reasoning Arlington, VA
    May 14, 2018 3:18 p.m.

    utemythology

    Chow took PAC 12 talent (UCLA) and helped the Bruins to a 0-59 shut out at BYU in 2008.

    Max Hall passed for six touchdowns and UCLA turned the ball over three times and had a field-goal attempt blocked.

    And that was only in the first half.

    By the time the Cougars had put on the finishing touches at LaVell Edwards Stadium, Hall had a school-record-tying seven touchdown passes in handing the Bruins' their worst defeat since losing to USC, 76-0, in 1930.

  • Michigan Cougsfan68 Ann Arbor, MI
    May 14, 2018 3:18 p.m.

    Patriot,
    Does the name Baker Mayfield ring any bells with you? He was 5' 10" Oklahoma's QB that just went #1 in the last NFL draft. I myself grew 2" in height from 6' 0 to 6' 2" between the time I graduated high school and got home from my Mormon mission and I went back when it was 19-21!

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    May 14, 2018 2:52 p.m.

    6'1" is hardly 4 star anything especially a QB. Maybe 6'3" but not 6'1". Sorry but size matters.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    May 14, 2018 2:38 p.m.

    Cougsndawgs - West Point , UT
    May 14, 2018 2:00 p.m.
    Utemyth:
    "Chow failed? Are you serious?...Chow took MWC talent, including a D2 QB, and helped Utah go 8-5 (4th best in P12 overall) in year 1".

    Uh, yes I'm serious. In year 1 w/ Chow Utah's offense was 109th in total offense (310.85 yrds/game), 74th in scoring offense (25 pts/game), and 99th in passing offense (173.23).

    I guess 'failed' means something different to Ute fans along with 'facts'. Chow never failed this miserably with MWC talent at BYU or with P5 talent at USC...so like I said, must just be a Utah thing.

    ----------------

    How was Chow at UCLA?

    When did Chow play 10-11 P5 teams with a D2 QB at BYU?

    Chow never played a P5 schedule at BYU. At BYU, when you played 1-2 P5 games you "did" fail miserably (about 38% winning percentage).

    In 2011 Chow took cupcakes like BYU to the woodshed while struggling against P5 teams.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    May 14, 2018 2:00 p.m.

    Utemyth:
    "Chow failed? Are you serious?...Chow took MWC talent, including a D2 QB, and helped Utah go 8-5 (4th best in P12 overall) in year 1".

    Uh, yes I'm serious. In year 1 w/ Chow Utah's offense was 109th in total offense (310.85 yrds/game), 74th in scoring offense (25 pts/game), and 99th in passing offense (173.23). I guess 'failed' means something different to Ute fans along with 'facts'. Chow never failed this miserably with MWC talent at BYU or with P5 talent at USC...so like I said, must just be a Utah thing.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    May 14, 2018 1:53 p.m.

    @Bubble boy Coug
    I don't fault the Ute fans for commenting on BYU articles. There's not much happening at the UU with regards to recruiting.

    Even now as a member of the Pac12 the U isn't a destination or tradition rich school. Most of their recruits wait until end of the recruiting season to see if they get offers from better schools. If their school(s) of choice don't select them then they accept at the U. Coach Whit knows this and has adjusted his recruitment accordingly. To be honest the last few years he has lucked out and done well with this recruiting system.

    ------------

    You are right, Utah has adjusted and waits until later in the recruiting process. Which has reduced the number of 2-star talent from 13 to 2.

    BYU already has 4 committed in the 2019 class. If BYU follows Utah's strategy and waits, they might lose that 2-star talent to D2 teams.

  • london_josh Lincoln, CA
    May 14, 2018 1:47 p.m.

    "ARod had ZERO to do with Utah's success in P12, which is why he was fired. Instead it was our elite defense and special teams."

    That's a completely rediculous comment, however given the typical issues Utah sees as an offense you might actually be right.

    He can choose the BYU QB tradition, or Utah that boasts " we'll make you a great safety, have you seen our punters? "

    Call me crazy but I think that the OC has influence on the offense

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    May 14, 2018 1:28 p.m.

    Cougsndawgs - West Point , UT
    May 14, 2018 12:40 p.m.
    Utemyth:
    "During his time as an assistant football coach, Chow has helped coach 8 of the top 14 career passing-efficiency leaders and 13 quarterbacks who rank among the top 30 in NCAA history for single-season passing yardage".

    Until he went to Utah where he along with 10 other OCs fell flat on their face...makes you wonder if it was Chow and the others who "failed" or if it's just a Utah thing. Again...history doesn't bode well for Tuttle.

    ---------------

    Chow failed? Are you serious?

    Chow took MWC talent, including a D2 QB, and helped Utah go 8-5 (4th best in P12 overall) in year 1.

    If Chow had remained Utah, we would have had a PAC-12 offense by now. No more margin of defeat victory laps for BYU fans.

  • Laxman taylorsville, UT
    May 14, 2018 12:41 p.m.

    I am going to hold my judgement on BYUs future and this kids until I see it on the field. I don’t trust all of the hype. By time he arrives in Provo a lot could change

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    May 14, 2018 12:40 p.m.

    Utemyth:
    "During his time as an assistant football coach, Chow has helped coach 8 of the top 14 career passing-efficiency leaders and 13 quarterbacks who rank among the top 30 in NCAA history for single-season passing yardage".

    Until he went to Utah where he along with 10 other OCs fell flat on their face...makes you wonder if it was Chow and the others who "failed" or if it's just a Utah thing. Again...history doesn't bode well for Tuttle.

    Azute:
    "Coach TT vs Arod"

    Oh I see...typical 5th place division finish vs tied for first. Yeah I see where you were going there. Lolololololol

  • Bubble boy utes Orem, UT
    May 14, 2018 12:29 p.m.

    I don't fault the Ute fans for commenting on BYU articles. There's not much happening at the UU with regards to recruiting.

    Even now as a member of the Pac12 the U isn't a destination or tradition rich school. Most of their recruits wait until end of the recruiting season to see if they get offers from better schools. If their school(s) of choice don't select them then they accept at the U. Coach Whit knows this and has adjusted his recruitment accordingly. To be honest the last few years he has lucked out and done well with this recruiting system.

    For the avid UU fans that like to analyze and comment on recruiting it's basically one or two weeks a year for the school on the hill.

  • BC-Cali21 Rancho Cucamonga, CA
    May 14, 2018 12:14 p.m.

    Watched the film...nice feet, strong arm, smart reads and looked fast enough to get him some time to throw on an escape. It also looked like he had a heck of an offensive line to help him. I didn’t see him take many snaps from under center but I’m sure he’s athletic enough to adapt to the pro style offense. 6’ tall doesn’t matter to me, even in D1 (or pros for that matter)...its not the pros where everyone is going to be the prototypical 6’4” QB; you don’t have to have great size to be a great player—it’s the size of the fight in the dog, not the size of the dog in the fight...I like this recruit and am excited to see the things he’ll do.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    May 14, 2018 12:06 p.m.

    “then Troy Taylor brought Utah back to 5th place.“

    Last yr was a rebuilding yr & in no way a reflection upon Coach TT, who was busy implementing his O a/a brand-new/young QB.

    You’ll quickly see what I mean over the next few yrs or so.

    Go Utes!

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    May 14, 2018 11:56 a.m.

    @london Posh Spice

    A Rod was at Utah for a long time, funny thing is he gave Utah some good seasons. Utah was 10-3 when he was OC in 2010, then Utah was 5th for 3 years and 3rd in the PAC until he took another shot at OC and tied for 1st (second place), back to 3rd, and then Troy Taylor brought Utah back to 5th place. why don't we wait and see what he does at BYU.

    -------------

    In 2010 10-3 Utah was mediocre in a 3 game season with losses to Notre Dame, TCU, and Boise.

    Which is why in 2011 ARod was demoted for Chow. In 2012, A Rod was passed by Brian Johnson as our 24 year old OC.

    ARod had ZERO to do with Utah's success in P12, which is why he was fired. Instead it was our elite defense and special teams.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    May 14, 2018 11:44 a.m.

    @defective reasoning

    uteomythology: "Only if ARod is the 2nd coming of Norm Chow."

    Chow wasn't the QB coach for Sheide, Nielsen, Wilson, McMahon, Young, or Bosco.

    ---------------

    Chow is well known for developing quarterbacks.

    During his time as an assistant football coach, Chow has helped coach 8 of the top 14 career passing-efficiency leaders and 13 quarterbacks who rank among the top 30 in NCAA history for single-season passing yardage.

    The list of players he coached includes Jim McMahon, Steve Young, and Philip Rivers, as well as Heisman Trophy winners Ty Detmer, Carson Palmer, and Matt Leinart.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    May 14, 2018 11:34 a.m.

    “Always negative...always hating. I appreciate the other Ute fans who have congratulated the kid and BYU (kinda like I did with Utah and Tuttle). But as long as we're on the subject, your advice to Conover is just as good advice to Tuttle who has already signed his NLI and playing for Utah. Playing for a historically subpar offense under Whit certainly stacks the odds heavily against him as well. Fair and balanced, Azute.”

    Lololololol....As I mentioned to your buddy—

    Coach TT vs Arod

    Go Utes!

  • Marked it Down Park City, UT
    May 14, 2018 11:31 a.m.

    Azute1: "He just needs to know upfront/before signing his Nli over to BYU, that the odds are stacked heavily against him parlaying this particular choice of school into a Nfl future".

    He just needs to know that the odds of inane comments directed at him from BYU's jealous little brothers just increased exponentially.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    May 14, 2018 11:31 a.m.

    “AzUte1,
    Correct me if I am wrong but isn't Alex Smith the last QB for Utah that lit it up in college, then got drafted and had a career in the NFL? Wow, 14 years ago, pre-Pac-12!”

    Coach TT vs Arod

    I’ll allow the opportunity to put 2 & 2 together yourself, Sunshine.

    Go Utes!

  • london_josh Lincoln, CA
    May 14, 2018 10:55 a.m.

    Frutes,

    First of all, 6'1" isn't bad for a kid who might be still growing, he's within an inch +/- of Young, McMahon, Detmer and with him already being 185lbs he'll likely be a big QB by the time he hits the field.

    Next, does it ever occur to you that some people like BYU? He calls it the school of his dreams right after a 4 win season. If BYU does poorly while on his mission - what better opportunity to have eyeballs on him as he lifts it up?

    A Rod was at Utah for a long time, funny thing is he gave Utah some good seasons. Utah was 10-3 when he was OC in 2010, then Utah was 5th for 3 years and 3rd in the PAC until he took another shot at OC and tied for 1st (second place), back to 3rd, and then Troy Taylor brought Utah back to 5th place. why don't we wait and see what he does at BYU.

    Most BYU recruits don't go sour while serving a mission, sort of the opposite.

    stars or no stars, he seems like a great young man, great QB numbers and leadership. Maybe you can do what a few other Ute fans have done, say congrats to a kid living his dream rather than trying to be so divisive in everything you do.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    May 14, 2018 10:35 a.m.

    Azute:
    "He just needs to know upfront/before signing his Nli over to byu-p, that the odds are stacked heavily against him parlaying this particular choice of school into a Nfl future".

    Always negative...always hating. I appreciate the other Ute fans who have congratulated the kid and BYU (kinda like I did with Utah and Tuttle). But as long as we're on the subject, your advice to Conover is just as good advice to Tuttle who has already signed his NLI and playing for Utah. Playing for a historically subpar offense under Whit certainly stacks the odds heavily against him as well. Fair and balanced, Azute.

  • Vegas Cougar Las Vegas, NV
    May 14, 2018 10:32 a.m.

    Sorry folks, but verbal commitments mean nothing and are nothing to get excited about. I hope this kid comes, but we all know things can change drastically between a verbal commitment from a 16, 17, 18 year old and actual signing day (Haloti Ngata anyone?).

  • Francisco American Fork, UT
    May 14, 2018 10:31 a.m.

    Sounds like BYU will once again be "Quarterback U". The question is: Can they win with an entire team made of quarterbacks? We may find out.

  • deductive reasoning Arlington, VA
    May 14, 2018 10:25 a.m.

    re: "Perhaps the 2nd coming of Sheide, Nielsen, Wilson, McMahon, Young, Bosco, or Detmer..."

    uteomythology: "Only if ARod is the 2nd coming of Norm Chow."

    Chow wasn't the QB coach for Sheide, Nielsen, Wilson, McMahon, Young, or Bosco.

  • Lester L. Wester Henderson, NV
    May 14, 2018 9:34 a.m.

    A verbal commit three years out from seeing the field and ARod's going to "coach him up." Good luck with all of that.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    May 14, 2018 9:15 a.m.

    BlueCoug - Provo, UT
    May 14, 2018 8:03 a.m.
    at long last. . .

    Perhaps the 2nd coming of Sheide, Nielsen, Wilson, McMahon, Young, Bosco, or Detmer...

    ---------------

    Only if ARod is the 2nd coming of Norm Chow.

  • Big J Bountiful, UT
    May 14, 2018 9:11 a.m.

    Even a blind squirrel finds an acorn! Best of luck!

  • shadowfx Chandler, AZ
    May 14, 2018 8:58 a.m.

    I have the honor and privilege of knowing this man. He is a leader on and off the field.
    His passion for the game and teammates will be a winning combination for the cougars.
    I have watched him play for 2 years and excited to watch his senior year
    I will admit, NOT a Cougar fan and Do not plan on becoming one . However, I will watch Jacob Conover and Gunner Romney take the Cougars back to a winning tradition

  • pacmidmajor Springville, UT
    May 14, 2018 8:50 a.m.

    at long last ,
    i think you are referring to tuttle ....

  • Michigan Cougsfan68 Ann Arbor, MI
    May 14, 2018 8:50 a.m.

    AzUte1,
    Correct me if I am wrong but isn't Alex Smith the last QB for Utah that lit it up in college, then got drafted and had a career in the NFL? Wow, 14 years ago, pre-Pac-12!

  • DSattheU Ogden, UT
    May 14, 2018 8:26 a.m.

    we didn't want him anyway...

    (Just kidding) - great pickup!

  • xert Santa Monica, CA
    May 14, 2018 8:18 a.m.

    Congrats to the Coogs on a great pickup and good luck to Jacob in his college career!

  • BlueCoug Provo, UT
    May 14, 2018 8:03 a.m.

    at long last. . .

    Perhaps the 2nd coming of Sheide, Nielsen, Wilson, McMahon, Young, Bosco, or Detmer...

  • JackRyanSLC Salt Lake City, UT
    May 14, 2018 7:46 a.m.

    Pre mission commitment is an easy thing for him to buy some time to see if Sitake can have the program going by then...if they struggle the next two years...there is no way he will keep his verbal.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    May 14, 2018 7:37 a.m.

    Verbal is one thing, signing is another.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    May 14, 2018 7:27 a.m.

    Good pick up for BYU; best of luck to this young Man!

  • at long last. . . Kirksville , MO
    May 14, 2018 6:55 a.m.

    Perhaps the Second Coming of Heaps?

  • Uncle Rico Provo, UT
    May 14, 2018 6:22 a.m.

    Re: BlueHusky - Mission Viejo, CA
    May 13, 2018 10:16 p.m.
    Missions are two years, not three.

    Indeed, but 2 year mission + 1 more year of high school = 3 years.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    May 14, 2018 1:39 a.m.

    "I've been praying really hard and I received the answer that I'm going on the mission so that's 100 percent now," Conover told Karpman. "I've talked with both schools (ASU and BYU) and they're both willing to hold scholarships so I appreciate that and feel good about it."

    ----

    ASU will hold a scholarship while he signs with BYU hoping he changes his mind on his mission?

    This kid must be the next Steve Young.

  • SIMPLICITY Denver, CO
    May 14, 2018 12:58 a.m.

    This guy is legit. Great arm and very mobile.

    Im sure he will come to his senses after his mission and sign with the school up North.

  • RockOn1224 Spanish Fork, UT
    May 14, 2018 12:33 a.m.

    Best recruiting news for BYU since Jake Heaps held his press conference. 2nd best to Ben Olsen coming here.

    Let the boy go on a mission, serve, grow and return. Then see how he gets back in shape and then how he does in spring ball.

    Good news. Nice get over P-5 schools.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    May 14, 2018 12:28 a.m.

    To my fellow Arizonan, wrong school, but a free education, nonetheless, which is above all else in importance.

    “The whole vibe seems different now, more serious, determined, extensive, and that seems to be showing up in recruiting.”

    It’s not as if this were the 1st 4 star recruit byu-p’s ever received a verbal from.

    They do receive one occasionally.

    However, their problem lays in the fact that they build each recruiting class predominantly w/2 stars.

    Just last yr, they had also received a verbal from his Chandler Hs teammate, gr, yet ended their class w/an avg star rating of 2.14, which is bottom-feeder status & is exasperated by the fact this coaching staff has zero history of lights-out player development such as we see up there on The Hill.

    He just needs to know upfront/before signing his Nli over to byu-p, that the odds are stacked heavily against him parlaying this particular choice of school into a Nfl future.

    Just last yr, byu-p had a humiliatingly putrid # of players on opening day rosters @11..Heck, usu was @13..Contrarily, we were @31.

    Anyway, kid comes from a solid program in recent yrs.

    Go Utes!

  • FYI Taylorsville, UT
    May 13, 2018 11:25 p.m.

    Uh, Blue Husky, do the math...signing class 2019 ( he's currently a high school jr) plus a 2 year mission adds up to at least 3 years. (2018-2021) Just like CO Ute said.

  • london_josh Lincoln, CA
    May 13, 2018 11:19 p.m.

    Wow, impressive play.

    So Wilson and hall battle it out for 4 seasons and he comes on in 3 years.

    Looks like a good young man and QB, anxious to see him play.

    About his height, Steve Young is 6'2", Jim McMahon is 6'1'. Ty detmer is 6'. I think 6'1" isn't exactly a hindrance, keep in mind that at his age he still could go a bit more and that 185 will likely get into a solid 220 in a few years.

  • Cougarbib2 Moorpark, CA
    May 13, 2018 11:16 p.m.

    Great news for BYU fans. It will be a while before he sees the field, so I understand why he is willing to commit to a program that already gas several young QBs.

    Fall 2018 - senior high school season
    Fall 2019 - mission
    Fall 2020 - mission
    Fall 2021 - redshirt or backup role
    Fall 2022 - ready to compete for starting job - probably backup.
    Then, 2 or 3 more years depending whether he redshirted

    Timing seems good for him and for BYU.

  • Floyd Johnson Broken Arrow, OK
    May 13, 2018 11:10 p.m.

    To those commenting on the receiver: #18 is 2018 BYU recruit Gunner Romney. We can probably pencil in Romney and and Dylan Collie as the starting receivers this fall. Romney missed four games as a senior and still had 80 receptions, 1554 yards, 19 touchdowns. Conover's most impressive stat: 32 touchdowns to 2 interceptions. When he arrives in 2021, QB's Wilson and Hall should be seniors or redshirt juniors. That sets up Conover to redshirt, learn the system and build some mass before competing for the 2022 spot. I am really careful to not over hype incoming freshmen, but Conover and Romney could basically swap highlight reels, so it seems reasonable to assume that at least one of these two is a big deal.

  • toosmartforyou Kaysville, UT
    May 13, 2018 11:08 p.m.

    Love all the comments about "star ratings" that U pick up, but how it doesn't really mean anything when the Y does. Typical....

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    May 13, 2018 10:30 p.m.

    robo:
    "4 stars caught my eye, but then only one thing stood out - 6’1”. No way he plays qb in D1 football at that height, unless byu plans on running the option"

    Robo, you should get out more often. Baker Mayfield...6'0, Tua Tagovialoa (5-star QB who won the NC for Bama, as much as that hurts to say)...6'1, but probably closer to 6'0. Height doesn't matter if you can move in the pocket and sling it (ever heard of Drew Brees). There are many examples of collegiate QBs who have excelled at 6'1 or less.

  • BlueHusky Mission Viejo, CA
    May 13, 2018 10:16 p.m.

    Uh, Co Ute - missions are two years, not three.

    Nice recruit and encouraging, but two years out is two years. Grimes could find a 4-star ready to play this year or next. The when missionary returns, he'll probably sit for a couple of years. Well, in the BYU glory days, those QB's normally had to wait two years anyway. McMahan, Young both had to wait their turn.

  • Henry Drummond San Jose, CA
    May 13, 2018 10:14 p.m.

    Congrats! Looks like a great recruit.

  • TJ Eagle Mountain, UT
    May 13, 2018 10:00 p.m.

    Great arm, good passing fundamentals, a good runner, and he has the mental toughness to stay in the pocket when pressure is coming if he thinks a receiver is going to come open. Looks like the whole package.

  • CO Ute Chandler, AZ
    May 13, 2018 9:50 p.m.

    Great verbal for the Y, congrats. But remember you won’t see him for at least 3 years and the coaching staff that recruited him may or may not still be in Provo.

    Best comment above is about a top 30 recruiting class. Sure there is a chance but typical Y fan hype that is not very likely to happen.

  • 1Reader Alpine, UT
    May 13, 2018 9:35 p.m.

    He's a sweet passer--but of course BYU's opponents' pass coverage will be at least 10 times stronger.

  • drski eden, UT
    May 13, 2018 9:35 p.m.

    Any time you get someone Alabama wanted, that is a big time catch! go cougars!!

  • reallY in sin city Las Vegas, NV
    May 13, 2018 9:33 p.m.

    The whole vibe seems different now, more serious, determined, extensive, and that seems to be showing up in recruiting. All the best Jacob, of everything going forward, you will do well, welcome aboard.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    May 13, 2018 9:27 p.m.

    I can tell already hes really going to be neat.

  • worf McAllen, TX
    May 13, 2018 9:10 p.m.

    That wide receiver has already committed to BYU.

  • mightymite , 00
    May 13, 2018 9:03 p.m.

    So much winning at byu. We just keep on winning.

  • water rocket Magna, UT
    May 13, 2018 8:34 p.m.

    This may be good catch for BYU, but they need to go after that tight end and wide receiver that kept getting behind the defense. What great hands those receivers have!

  • jemod Bedford, WY
    May 13, 2018 8:28 p.m.

    Forget the quarterback. Sign that receiver.

  • Michigan Cougsfan68 Ann Arbor, MI
    May 13, 2018 8:16 p.m.

    Great pickup by BYU! Hope he has an awesome senior year and mission!

  • blue & white Boise, ID
    May 13, 2018 8:12 p.m.

    The Future keeps looking brighter. Its nice to see the quality of high character players committing to BYU. Coaches, keep them coming. Congratulations on making a great decision Jacob by committing to the Y.

  • Bubble boy utes Orem, UT
    May 13, 2018 8:01 p.m.

    Congrats! Glad to have you onboard at BYU. Another four star recruit and nearly ten more in BYU’s sights. Should be a top 30 recruiting class by the end. The winds of change!

  • Sparkley Briefs New York, NY
    May 13, 2018 7:23 p.m.

    What a great match for both player and team. Hopefully he can be one in the line of excellent QBs to come out of BYU.

  • Mark321 Eagle Mountain, UT
    May 13, 2018 6:52 p.m.

    This was a big get for the Cougars especially when you consider who else was going after him.

  • Elkhorn Loveland, CO
    May 13, 2018 6:52 p.m.

    Great news; welcome aboard Jacob 🤙🏈