“It's interesting how much angst was created on the hill by
BYU's dominating 5-2 softball win over Utah.”What are you
even talking about, seriously?And since when did an overall low
scoring 3-pt final margin constitute “dominating”? 😂Or any variation of a 3-pt final margin, low or high scoring?A dominating W would be receiving a 14-0 run-ruled [mercy-ruled] beat down, as
we laid upon byu-p last yr in sweeping them out of the postseason, thus earning
ourselves yet another Super Regional spot, a place byu-p has never even remotely
come close to earning....LolU — 4 Wcws appearancesbyu-p — Zero Wcws appearances.LolDo something in
the postseason for once, then we’ll talk.Go Utes!
“These midweek games are unequivocally 100% meaningful to EVERY BYU or
Utah fan, including you, period.The fact that you’re here is
proof enough that even you care.”Oh goody....You sure got me
by mimicking me....Hardy har har.As I stated, these midweek will
never ever decide which team is tops in any given year, period.Hence, they’re 100% meaningless & unequivocally 100% meaningless to
me, period.And yes they’re unequivocally 100% meaningful to
you byu-p fans, period.Just look @ how ultra-giddy they get whenever
their team can in fact beat us....LolI’m on here because I
want to vent my general disappointment in no annual weekend series being
scheduled & hoping @ some point somebody w/some juice to get it done reads
my comments, as well as to be entertained by byu-p fans such as yourself,
particularly w/their tangential/unrelated comments....LolThe real
question is, what are you doing here? The vast majority of you byu-p fans
literally disappear every time following a L to us, period.Go
Utes!p.s. Trivia question for you—What are my reasons for
wanting an annual weekend series scheduled?
AZUTE1These midweek games are unequivocally 100% meaningful to EVERY
BYU or Utah fan, including you, period.The fact that you’re
here is proof enough that even you care.
To clarify, I was the lone Ute to refer to these midweek games as being
irrelevant....Not any other Ute....Therefore, the blanket statements by byu-p
fans to the contrary are 100% inaccurate, period.My reason for
stating such is 100% due to wanting to determine which school is best in any
given yr, which can only be determined via a weekend series, period.Having said this, these midweek games are unequivocally 100% meaningful to
byu-p fans, period.Midmajor forever.Go Utes!
blue n goldYou were pretty defensive there buddy. You must have
assumed that I was trying to tear BYU down with my comments and questions
regarding the Directors' Cup when all I was doing was trying to better
understand it. Rather than answer my questions directly it appears you answered
them indirectly within your hot and bothered response and the main thing I take
from it is that I was right in that BYU fields more teams than most, though
clearly not as many as Stanford as you were quick to point out. I agree with
your take that it's one thing to field several teams and it's another
thing to field several COMPETITIVE teams which BYU has done a good job of in my
estimation. In other words props to BYU for their Directors' Cup success.
However, to keep all that success in perspective it would also be accurate to
say that BYU begins each year with more ping pong balls in the lottery hopper
than most Universities around the country.
Always nice to win. Congrats!Go Utes!
motorbike"Here's the thing, I'm just guessing here but
BYU fields a team in more sports than most schools in the country so if scoring
isn't averaged out to account for schools competing in fewer sports then it
would stand to reason that BYU would place well in Directors' Cup standings
almost just by default."Only if "by default" you have
one of the best programs in the country in a particular sport.To
have a consistently Top 30 program overall, you have to have multiple programs
in multiple sports that are perennially one of the best programs in the country
in a particular sport.The Utes just started a men's lacrosse
program. Let's see how long it takes for the Utes to earn their first
Directors' Cup points in men's lacrosse.btw, BYU
doesn't field half as many teams as Stanford, which is consistently the #1
team, but the PAC 12 doesn't hesitate for a moment to include the Cardinal
in supporting their "Conference of Champions" claim.If we
restricted the PAC 12's NCAA championships to sports that Utah competes in,
the PAC 12 wouldn't have half as many NCAA championships.It's interesting how Utah fans are constantly trying to minimize the PAC
12's claim to fame.
"The best of them have bad days, and the worst of them occasionally put
together an amazing outing.If you can't understand that concept,
you're talking about the wrong sport."NVcoog:Just so I'm clear on the Provo Rules.In college baseball:- Despite being doubled-up in a second loss in a spread-out college baseball
series, the winning team did not dominate or is considered better. But in college basketball: - A loss by 12 means you were dominated.- Such a loss means the other team is better for the entire season, regardless
of subsequent win streaks, tournament results, etc.And in college
football:- Just because a team has won the last 7 in a row against the
same team, they are not the better team for each of those seasons; nor is it the
better team in each game if the losing team has (pick one): won the yardage
trophy, scored last, were stopped short of the goal line, had a FG blocked, or
gave up 7 turnovers; or, if the game was ref'ed by a Pac12 crew.Byzantine Logic 101. Got it!
The Miami Marlins are considered the worst team in baseball this year. The
Yankees are supposed to be one of the better teams. In one game, the Yankees
won 12-1. In the next, the Marlins won 9-1.That's baseball.
And that's why they usually play 3 games series, not just one game at a
time. A lot of winning and losing in baseball depends on one guy, your starting
pitcher for the day. The best of them have bad days, and the worst of them
occasionally put together an amazing outing. If you can't
understand that concept, you're talking about the wrong sport.
"Why else do you think all those cougar fans I'd called out had run
away?"Naval Vet:I'm told Tulsa is nice this
time of year.
Real programs make news when they schedule a worthy opponent. How small is it
when it's published that there's rumors of talks with wyoming but
nothing has been agreed upon and wyoming can't fit them in for a while
How does it feel to get dominated by your rival on your home field in front of
your largest crowd of the season on your worldwide in house network. Exposed at
home by the struggling Utes. lol.
northern_lights"Neither program will receive any Directors'
Cup points this season, but BYU will once again finish ahead of Utah-SLC for the
25th straight time"-----------For Directors' Cup amateurs
like myself I'm wondering if you could shed some light on how the scoring
works. My guess is there are points assigned based on how each sport finishes in
relation to the rest of the country? Maybe there are points for conference
championships or something similar? Here's the thing, I'm
just guessing here but BYU fields a team in more sports than most schools in the
country so if scoring isn't averaged out to account for schools competing
in fewer sports then it would stand to reason that BYU would place well in
Directors' Cup standings almost just by default.I'm
curious, what is the average number of sports Universities compete in? And where
do Utah, BYU, USU, etc stand in relation to the average?Just honest
questions and I'll be honest in that I don't care enough to go do the
research for myself. :)
Who cares? It's baseball!
blue n gold:"It's interesting how much angst was created on
the hill by BYU's dominating 5-2 softball win over Utah."Project much? Clearly the "angst" here is on the cougars' end.
As had it always been. Why else do you think all those cougar fans I'd
called out had run away?
"For the uniformed, "Trueblue, why are you addressing just
those wearing uniforms? In actuality, neither team in either game
were even close to the mercy rule. But it was byu fans who first made the claim
that byu almost run-ruled Utah in softball, even though the final score was 5-2.
It's interesting how much angst was created on the hill by BYU's
dominating 5-2 softball win over Utah.
Nice win for the Utes, hope that momentum carries over to the weekend series
against Zona. And speaking of weekend series, why can't we as fans just
enjoy these games for what they are? Of course it would be preferable to play a
3 game weekend series because of the pitching implications, but the reality is
that's easier said than done. Combination of early Spring Utah weather and
conference schedules means their bye weeks would have to match up in order to
schedule that. Short of that, we're left with 4 Tuesday games and probably
a lot of pitchers involves. It is what it is, and it's STILL Utah/BYU.
The players still care, the fans obviously still care, it's still THE
rivalry despite the fact some of my fellow Ute fans will claim otherwise. Go
fakenews:How would YOU know how THEY feel? I wasn't talking to
you. I specifically addressed "those once-proud Y fans" who'd been
identified as "ND95CA", " Y's little brother",
"Lone*Star", "Rockarolla", "BlueCoug", "Road
Runner", "phoenix", "mussingaround", "midwacmajor",
"front ranger", “Snack WAC”, " Striker" and
"Chamberlain".Evidently they're so humiliated,
they've run away.
Naval VetAnswer: None of the aboveAs we've been
told ad infinitum by Utah fans, mid-week baseball games don't even count.
Wallbanger"At least we’re cooler because we are the best
in the nation with our Directors Cup!"Neither program will
receive any Directors' Cup points this season, but BYU will once again
finish ahead of Utah-SLC for the 25th straight timeSince 1993-94,
average points and placeAverage Points - BYU 519.97-
Utah 291.33Average Place- BYU 31- Utah 61
WallbangerIt's ONE game.Overall, BYU OWNS U in
baseball and softball.For the uniformed, - the mercy
rule in college baseball is applied when the opposing team has a 10-run lead
after 7 innings- the mercy rule in college softball is applied when
the opposing team has a 7-run lead after 5 inningsIn the BYU-Utah
softball game, BYU lead 5-2 after 5 innings - 4 runs shy of the mercy rule
applying.In the BYU-Utah baseball game, Utah lead 8-4 after 7
innings - 6 runs shy of the mercy rule applying.
At least we’re cooler because we are the best in the nation with our
Directors Cup! EVERYONE knows what that is... Go cougs!!!
Nahhhhh....it ain't Tuesday games or mid week games it's BYU
doesn't have a go to Haus on the mound that can lock down batters. Just
about every team we have played this year has at least one.... ONE arm that they
can rely upon. They are out there for sure..... it takes recruiting..... going
on the road and staying on the road until you find one.. There is an LDS kid
right now in North California who is that pitcher BUT Vanderbilt is showing more
love and their team is much much more disciplined. Easy choice for this young
man sadly enough. Littlewood got his new field now all we need is a coach that
can bring in the pitching outside of Utah. You don't lose to 6 game losing
streak Utah team at home. That can't happen. It simply can't. One
more thing why is it that our 2 best pitchers both went down with arm or
shoulder injuries? Answer- coaching. Pratt take the reigns and run with it.
Last night was embarrassing.
Could not agree more with AZUte. These mid-week game hold little drama. You have
little hope of seeing the best pitchers 'cuz both teams are holding out for
conference games coming in the week.Go Cougs.
"Doesn’t count cause it was a mid-week game."SnackWAC:I know. What were they thinking down there, keeping
track of the all the balls and strikes, hits and runs, and putting it up on the
scoreboard when the coogs were going to lose?Maybe they'll know
better next year.
"Last night however, Utah beat the cougs by an even larger margin"Naval Vet:I guess that means we can start emulating BYU-P
fans and remind them how the Utes "dominated" the coogs. Oh, the irony!
In the “Pitching, Fleener lead BYU softball team to rivalry-win over
Utah” article, "ND95CA", " Y's little brother",
"Lone*Star", "Rockarolla", "BlueCoug", "Road
Runner", "phoenix", "mussingaround", "midwacmajor",
"front ranger", “Snack WAC”, " Striker" and
"Chamberlain" all took a series of victory laps. Here are just a couple
of sample comments
“BYU 5, Utah 2
The mercy rule
was nearly employed
Own it!” – Chamberlain“BYU smoked Utah in softball
” -- StrikerLast
night however, Utah beat the cougs by an even larger margin, so I have a serious
question here for those once-proud Y fans: Which is the most embarrassing
aspect of last night’s 8-4 loss?(a)That you lost – at
home – in one of your highest attended baseball games to a team with a
(b)That you’d lost your
2nd of 3 games in this year’s series after all that chest-pounding about
beating us in women’s softballNow I know that it’s
really not so much of an “either/or” scenario, as you are forced to
endure BOTH, and – as Chamberlain once said – you’re just
gonna have to “own it”. I’m just inquiring as to which of the
two did you all find the more deliciously soul crushing for you.
After the game 3 weeks ago in SLC, 65greasetrap said:"Sounds like a
good game. Need to play another one to see who is best."Done.
Doesn’t count cause it was a mid-week game.
Its not fair beating on mid-majors but what are you going to do?
Big crowd. New field. Nice evening. No pitching for BYU. I doubt they win
another series all year. The players looked and played like they would rather
be home playing x box. Littlewood, go recruit some pitchers not batting
practice guys, we have a whole pen of them for crying out loud!!!
Well done fellas!
Yawn....Get an annual weekend series scheduled instead of these meaningless
midweek games.Then we’d see each school’s best product
fielded & consequently accurately determine which school is best in any
given yr.Get it done....We fans deserve it.Go Utes!
Congratulations to the Utes on a nice win!