Utah enjoys 6-run 5th inning in 8-4 victory over BYU

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  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    April 27, 2018 1:17 a.m.

    “It's interesting how much angst was created on the hill by BYU's dominating 5-2 softball win over Utah.”

    What are you even talking about, seriously?

    And since when did an overall low scoring 3-pt final margin constitute “dominating”? 😂

    Or any variation of a 3-pt final margin, low or high scoring?

    A dominating W would be receiving a 14-0 run-ruled [mercy-ruled] beat down, as we laid upon byu-p last yr in sweeping them out of the postseason, thus earning ourselves yet another Super Regional spot, a place byu-p has never even remotely come close to earning....Lol

    U — 4 Wcws appearances

    byu-p — Zero Wcws appearances.

    Lol

    Do something in the postseason for once, then we’ll talk.

    Go Utes!

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    April 27, 2018 1:00 a.m.

    “These midweek games are unequivocally 100% meaningful to EVERY BYU or Utah fan, including you, period.

    The fact that you’re here is proof enough that even you care.”

    Oh goody....You sure got me by mimicking me....Hardy har har.

    As I stated, these midweek will never ever decide which team is tops in any given year, period.

    Hence, they’re 100% meaningless & unequivocally 100% meaningless to me, period.

    And yes they’re unequivocally 100% meaningful to you byu-p fans, period.

    Just look @ how ultra-giddy they get whenever their team can in fact beat us....Lol

    I’m on here because I want to vent my general disappointment in no annual weekend series being scheduled & hoping @ some point somebody w/some juice to get it done reads my comments, as well as to be entertained by byu-p fans such as yourself, particularly w/their tangential/unrelated comments....Lol

    The real question is, what are you doing here? The vast majority of you byu-p fans literally disappear every time following a L to us, period.

    Go Utes!

    p.s. Trivia question for you—What are my reasons for wanting an annual weekend series scheduled?

  • Snack PAC Olympus Cove, Utah
    April 26, 2018 12:52 p.m.

    AZUTE1

    These midweek games are unequivocally 100% meaningful to EVERY BYU or Utah fan, including you, period.

    The fact that you’re here is proof enough that even you care.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    April 26, 2018 12:38 a.m.

    To clarify, I was the lone Ute to refer to these midweek games as being irrelevant....Not any other Ute....Therefore, the blanket statements by byu-p fans to the contrary are 100% inaccurate, period.

    My reason for stating such is 100% due to wanting to determine which school is best in any given yr, which can only be determined via a weekend series, period.

    Having said this, these midweek games are unequivocally 100% meaningful to byu-p fans, period.

    Midmajor forever.

    Go Utes!

  • motorbike Cottonwood Heights, UT
    April 25, 2018 3:36 p.m.

    blue n gold

    You were pretty defensive there buddy. You must have assumed that I was trying to tear BYU down with my comments and questions regarding the Directors' Cup when all I was doing was trying to better understand it. Rather than answer my questions directly it appears you answered them indirectly within your hot and bothered response and the main thing I take from it is that I was right in that BYU fields more teams than most, though clearly not as many as Stanford as you were quick to point out. I agree with your take that it's one thing to field several teams and it's another thing to field several COMPETITIVE teams which BYU has done a good job of in my estimation. In other words props to BYU for their Directors' Cup success. However, to keep all that success in perspective it would also be accurate to say that BYU begins each year with more ping pong balls in the lottery hopper than most Universities around the country.

  • Big J Bountiful, UT
    April 25, 2018 3:06 p.m.

    Always nice to win. Congrats!

    Go Utes!

  • blue n gold Redmond, WA
    April 25, 2018 1:44 p.m.

    motorbike

    "Here's the thing, I'm just guessing here but BYU fields a team in more sports than most schools in the country so if scoring isn't averaged out to account for schools competing in fewer sports then it would stand to reason that BYU would place well in Directors' Cup standings almost just by default."

    Only if "by default" you have one of the best programs in the country in a particular sport.

    To have a consistently Top 30 program overall, you have to have multiple programs in multiple sports that are perennially one of the best programs in the country in a particular sport.

    The Utes just started a men's lacrosse program. Let's see how long it takes for the Utes to earn their first Directors' Cup points in men's lacrosse.

    btw, BYU doesn't field half as many teams as Stanford, which is consistently the #1 team, but the PAC 12 doesn't hesitate for a moment to include the Cardinal in supporting their "Conference of Champions" claim.

    If we restricted the PAC 12's NCAA championships to sports that Utah competes in, the PAC 12 wouldn't have half as many NCAA championships.

    It's interesting how Utah fans are constantly trying to minimize the PAC 12's claim to fame.

  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    April 25, 2018 1:26 p.m.

    "The best of them have bad days, and the worst of them occasionally put together an amazing outing.
    If you can't understand that concept, you're talking about the wrong sport."

    NVcoog:

    Just so I'm clear on the Provo Rules.

    In college baseball:
    - Despite being doubled-up in a second loss in a spread-out college baseball series, the winning team did not dominate or is considered better.

    But in college basketball:
    - A loss by 12 means you were dominated.
    - Such a loss means the other team is better for the entire season, regardless of subsequent win streaks, tournament results, etc.

    And in college football:
    - Just because a team has won the last 7 in a row against the same team, they are not the better team for each of those seasons; nor is it the better team in each game if the losing team has (pick one): won the yardage trophy, scored last, were stopped short of the goal line, had a FG blocked, or gave up 7 turnovers; or, if the game was ref'ed by a Pac12 crew.

    Byzantine Logic 101. Got it!

  • NevadaCoug Overton, NV
    April 25, 2018 12:48 p.m.

    The Miami Marlins are considered the worst team in baseball this year. The Yankees are supposed to be one of the better teams. In one game, the Yankees won 12-1. In the next, the Marlins won 9-1.

    That's baseball. And that's why they usually play 3 games series, not just one game at a time. A lot of winning and losing in baseball depends on one guy, your starting pitcher for the day. The best of them have bad days, and the worst of them occasionally put together an amazing outing.

    If you can't understand that concept, you're talking about the wrong sport.

  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    April 25, 2018 12:30 p.m.

    "Why else do you think all those cougar fans I'd called out had run away?"

    Naval Vet:

    I'm told Tulsa is nice this time of year.

  • ekute Layton, UT
    April 25, 2018 12:22 p.m.

    Real programs make news when they schedule a worthy opponent. How small is it when it's published that there's rumors of talks with wyoming but nothing has been agreed upon and wyoming can't fit them in for a while anyway?

  • ekute Layton, UT
    April 25, 2018 12:10 p.m.

    How does it feel to get dominated by your rival on your home field in front of your largest crowd of the season on your worldwide in house network. Exposed at home by the struggling Utes. lol.

  • motorbike Cottonwood Heights, UT
    April 25, 2018 12:04 p.m.

    northern_lights

    "Neither program will receive any Directors' Cup points this season, but BYU will once again finish ahead of Utah-SLC for the 25th straight time"
    -----------
    For Directors' Cup amateurs like myself I'm wondering if you could shed some light on how the scoring works. My guess is there are points assigned based on how each sport finishes in relation to the rest of the country? Maybe there are points for conference championships or something similar?

    Here's the thing, I'm just guessing here but BYU fields a team in more sports than most schools in the country so if scoring isn't averaged out to account for schools competing in fewer sports then it would stand to reason that BYU would place well in Directors' Cup standings almost just by default.

    I'm curious, what is the average number of sports Universities compete in? And where do Utah, BYU, USU, etc stand in relation to the average?

    Just honest questions and I'll be honest in that I don't care enough to go do the research for myself. :)

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    April 25, 2018 11:56 a.m.

    Who cares? It's baseball!

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    April 25, 2018 11:45 a.m.

    blue n gold:

    "It's interesting how much angst was created on the hill by BYU's dominating 5-2 softball win over Utah."

    Project much? Clearly the "angst" here is on the cougars' end. As had it always been. Why else do you think all those cougar fans I'd called out had run away?

  • KH Holladay, UT
    April 25, 2018 11:29 a.m.

    "For the uniformed, "

    Trueblue, why are you addressing just those wearing uniforms?

    In actuality, neither team in either game were even close to the mercy rule. But it was byu fans who first made the claim that byu almost run-ruled Utah in softball, even though the final score was 5-2.

  • blue n gold Redmond, WA
    April 25, 2018 11:24 a.m.

    It's interesting how much angst was created on the hill by BYU's dominating 5-2 softball win over Utah.

  • Pacer Bountiful, UT
    April 25, 2018 11:18 a.m.

    Nice win for the Utes, hope that momentum carries over to the weekend series against Zona. And speaking of weekend series, why can't we as fans just enjoy these games for what they are? Of course it would be preferable to play a 3 game weekend series because of the pitching implications, but the reality is that's easier said than done. Combination of early Spring Utah weather and conference schedules means their bye weeks would have to match up in order to schedule that. Short of that, we're left with 4 Tuesday games and probably a lot of pitchers involves. It is what it is, and it's STILL Utah/BYU. The players still care, the fans obviously still care, it's still THE rivalry despite the fact some of my fellow Ute fans will claim otherwise. Go Utes!

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    April 25, 2018 11:10 a.m.

    fakenews:

    How would YOU know how THEY feel? I wasn't talking to you. I specifically addressed "those once-proud Y fans" who'd been identified as "ND95CA", " Y's little brother", "Lone*Star", "Rockarolla", "BlueCoug", "Road Runner", "phoenix", "mussingaround", "midwacmajor", "front ranger", “Snack WAC”, " Striker" and "Chamberlain".

    Evidently they're so humiliated, they've run away.

  • fakenews Layton, UT
    April 25, 2018 10:48 a.m.

    Naval Vet

    Answer: None of the above

    As we've been told ad infinitum by Utah fans, mid-week baseball games don't even count.

  • northern_lights Layton, UT
    April 25, 2018 10:13 a.m.

    Wallbanger

    "At least we’re cooler because we are the best in the nation with our Directors Cup!"

    Neither program will receive any Directors' Cup points this season, but BYU will once again finish ahead of Utah-SLC for the 25th straight time

    Since 1993-94, average points and place

    Average Points
    - BYU 519.97
    - Utah 291.33

    Average Place
    - BYU 31
    - Utah 61

  • TrueBlue Provo, UT
    April 25, 2018 10:01 a.m.

    Wallbanger

    It's ONE game.

    Overall, BYU OWNS U in baseball and softball.

    For the uniformed,

    - the mercy rule in college baseball is applied when the opposing team has a 10-run lead after 7 innings

    - the mercy rule in college softball is applied when the opposing team has a 7-run lead after 5 innings

    In the BYU-Utah softball game, BYU lead 5-2 after 5 innings - 4 runs shy of the mercy rule applying.

    In the BYU-Utah baseball game, Utah lead 8-4 after 7 innings - 6 runs shy of the mercy rule applying.

  • Wallbanger Spanish Fork, UT
    April 25, 2018 8:37 a.m.

    At least we’re cooler because we are the best in the nation with our Directors Cup! EVERYONE knows what that is...
    Go cougs!!!

  • Just stay healthy San Clemente, CA
    April 25, 2018 8:21 a.m.

    Nahhhhh....it ain't Tuesday games or mid week games it's BYU doesn't have a go to Haus on the mound that can lock down batters. Just about every team we have played this year has at least one.... ONE arm that they can rely upon. They are out there for sure..... it takes recruiting..... going on the road and staying on the road until you find one.. There is an LDS kid right now in North California who is that pitcher BUT Vanderbilt is showing more love and their team is much much more disciplined. Easy choice for this young man sadly enough. Littlewood got his new field now all we need is a coach that can bring in the pitching outside of Utah. You don't lose to 6 game losing streak Utah team at home. That can't happen. It simply can't. One more thing why is it that our 2 best pitchers both went down with arm or shoulder injuries? Answer- coaching. Pratt take the reigns and run with it. Last night was embarrassing.

  • Sick of it Spanish Fork, UT
    April 25, 2018 8:20 a.m.

    Could not agree more with AZUte. These mid-week game hold little drama. You have little hope of seeing the best pitchers 'cuz both teams are holding out for conference games coming in the week.

    Go Cougs.

  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    April 25, 2018 8:12 a.m.

    "Doesn’t count cause it was a mid-week game."

    SnackWAC:

    I know. What were they thinking down there, keeping track of the all the balls and strikes, hits and runs, and putting it up on the scoreboard when the coogs were going to lose?

    Maybe they'll know better next year.

  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    April 25, 2018 8:03 a.m.

    "Last night however, Utah beat the cougs by an even larger margin"

    Naval Vet:

    I guess that means we can start emulating BYU-P fans and remind them how the Utes "dominated" the coogs.

    Oh, the irony!

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    April 25, 2018 7:26 a.m.

    In the “Pitching, Fleener lead BYU softball team to rivalry-win over Utah” article, "ND95CA", " Y's little brother", "Lone*Star", "Rockarolla", "BlueCoug", "Road Runner", "phoenix", "mussingaround", "midwacmajor", "front ranger", “Snack WAC”, " Striker" and "Chamberlain" all took a series of victory laps. Here are just a couple of sample comments…

    “BYU 5, Utah 2…The mercy rule was nearly employed…Own it!” – Chamberlain

    “BYU smoked Utah in softball…” -- Striker

    Last night however, Utah beat the cougs by an even larger margin, so I have a serious question here for those once-proud Y fans: Which is the most embarrassing aspect of last night’s 8-4 loss?

    (a)That you lost – at home – in one of your highest attended baseball games to a team with a losing record

    …or…

    (b)That you’d lost your 2nd of 3 games in this year’s series after all that chest-pounding about beating us in women’s softball

    Now I know that it’s really not so much of an “either/or” scenario, as you are forced to endure BOTH, and – as Chamberlain once said – you’re just gonna have to “own it”. I’m just inquiring as to which of the two did you all find the more deliciously soul crushing for you.

  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    April 25, 2018 6:53 a.m.

    After the game 3 weeks ago in SLC, 65greasetrap said:
    "Sounds like a good game. Need to play another one to see who is best."

    Done. Happy now?

  • Snack PAC Olympus Cove, Utah
    April 25, 2018 6:36 a.m.

    Doesn’t count cause it was a mid-week game.

  • cjd1 Draper, UT
    April 25, 2018 6:35 a.m.

    Its not fair beating on mid-majors but what are you going to do?

  • Just stay healthy San Clemente, CA
    April 25, 2018 12:44 a.m.

    Big crowd. New field. Nice evening. No pitching for BYU. I doubt they win another series all year. The players looked and played like they would rather be home playing x box. Littlewood, go recruit some pitchers not batting practice guys, we have a whole pen of them for crying out loud!!!

  • motorbike Cottonwood Heights, UT
    April 25, 2018 12:14 a.m.

    Well done fellas!

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    April 24, 2018 11:34 p.m.

    Yawn....Get an annual weekend series scheduled instead of these meaningless midweek games.

    Then we’d see each school’s best product fielded & consequently accurately determine which school is best in any given yr.

    Get it done....We fans deserve it.

    Go Utes!

  • 1Reader Alpine, UT
    April 24, 2018 11:19 p.m.

    Congratulations to the Utes on a nice win!