NCAA selection process still needs tweaking

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  • Laxman taylorsville, UT
    March 23, 2018 2:31 p.m.

    Doug is unhappy because his cougars didn't get invited. Was it this year or next that the LP3 was going to win it all?

    March 23, 2018 11:43 a.m.

    Yes, it was not a great selection process this year, but thanks to the number of teams allowed to participate, B-ball is great compared to the Bill Hancock Post-Season Apologetic 4/5 Power Conference Tournament (the so called CFP that automatically eliminates half the D-1 teams). That is why the University of Central Florida, the only undefeated D-1 team, that happened to beat a team, Auburn, that beat the two teams (Alabama and Georgia) jockeying for second place, is the real college football champion this year. Football needs a real tournament, one of 16-teams. Too bad the clique/cartel won't allow it.

  • BartBurk OSCEOLA, IN
    March 23, 2018 10:35 a.m.

    Just let everyone in.

  • TaxpayerinUtah Utah, UT
    March 23, 2018 9:13 a.m.

    Doug, Nice article, how about some solid suggestions?

    Fire the selection committee, they do a terrible job. As a side note, I would like to know how much these guys get paid to do a terrible job. The way they go about picking at-large bids stinks!! Why does the selection committee think that they know who deserves to be in and who doesn't? The selection committee should be made up of different folks each year from different conferences each year (major, mid-major and minor).

    Regular season champs should get the auto bid. The conference tournaments should be dumped. The "first four" makes no sense either, two of the winners are seeded 11s and two of the winners are seeded 16s?? What sense does that make?

    Let's get back to rewarding the best proven over the long haul (regular season champs plus the best remaining). The best should be the best 96 , start the big tournament earlier and eliminate conference tournaments altogether. Too many players get hurt! Players would be less likely to get hurt (they wouldn't have to play another 3 games to get the auto bid), they would be ready to play knowing that if they win the regular season title, they would get the auto bid.

  • Pacer Bountiful, UT
    March 22, 2018 10:03 a.m.

    The tournament has never been about getting the best 68 teams, otherwise the smaller schools would never get invited. I like the idea of rewarding the regular season conference champion with the auto-bid, but that's up to each conference and I highly doubt that will ever happen. So the only tweak I would make is to have a requirement that any at-large bid has to have at least a .500 conference record. Still think it's ridiculous that ASU finished 9th in the Pac-12 and got a bid over USC.

  • DickG Mesa, AZ
    March 22, 2018 9:45 a.m.

    Tweaking? The whole process needs to thrown in the garbage. It is run by money not by accomplishment. The ACC put 9 teams in the tournament, the SEC 8, how is that fair or even legitimate. It has nothing to do with strength of schedule, it has to do with politics and money. How many times do you see those teams come out west. They have no interest in home and home games. If you want to play them, you go there. Let every conference send two teams to the tournament. That will fill the field, and it will put pressure on breaking up these ridiculous power 5 conferences. They are pandered to because of money. They run the NCAA in football and basketball. The NCAA has become a laughingstock. College sports used to be fun and competitive. Now the only competition is for more money.

  • DEW Cougars Sandy, UT
    March 22, 2018 9:42 a.m.

    How about NCAA to fix the Div I College Football Playoff. Having two SEC playing each other for the NC make no sense.
    As for smc, they got what they deserve, "the nit" because they had too many easy home cooking games!

  • at long last. . . Kirksville , MO
    March 22, 2018 9:28 a.m.

    How about having the committee select the bottom twenty conference champions and let them play in 'play-in games against each other? That would certainly allow more deserving teams to get in the dance, or you could lower the number of teams involved should you wish to do that. It is a travesty to allow - what is it? - 32 conference champions to be in the dance without anything other than beating others in their conference.

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    March 22, 2018 9:22 a.m.

    The process needs "tweaks"!? It needs to be blown up.

    St. Mary's is a tournament-worthy team...and Utah just beat them at their place. But ASU got in? The committee is essentially saying that nobody's conference season means anything - it's all about getting a big win in December.

  • Husker2 Aspen, CO
    March 22, 2018 8:27 a.m.

    I can't figure out if the committee wants the best 68 teams or the most deserving 68 teams. The criteria seems to change depending which team they are considering.

    The problem with considering strength of schedule is that it gives the major conference teams a huge advantage. All they have to do to keep the mid-majors out of the tournament (which allows more majors into the tournament field) is not play them.

  • Magic Happens Kaysville, UT
    March 22, 2018 6:49 a.m.

    Its always easy to complain about needed "tweaks". Rather than complain, try offering up ideas or suggestions, or does that actually take some thought!

  • at long last. . . Kirksville , MO
    March 22, 2018 6:30 a.m.

    The selection committee should be all fired for incompetence. Previous committees have done a much better job. Overweighing early season results for selection (like ASU's early wins) is really not smart. How teams are playing toward the end of the season is a much better measurement of worth. The problem was with the committee - not necessarily the process.

  • androol Queen Creek, AZ
    March 22, 2018 3:16 a.m.

    Unless things have changed, it is the conferences who determine how their automatic bid will be utilized, not the selection committee. If the WCC, MWC or any other conference decided they wanted to give their automatic bid to the regular season champion, that is the team that would be selected. The conferences found a way to make a little bit of money by hosting a season ending tournament. To make them count for something, most conferences decided to give their automatic bid to the tournament champion, not the regular season champion. I totally agree though, the regular season champ should be the team with the automatic bid. But it is the conferences that need to make that decision. I would argue that the laser leagues would benefit more by having a team that consistently played stronger during the entire season be in the NCAA tournament than a team that got lucky on a last second shot. The consistent winner would have a better chance of going deeper into the tournament that a team that made in by a lucky shot or two.

  • UtahBlueDevil Alpine, UT
    March 21, 2018 8:02 p.m.

    "Syracuse, 11th in the ACC standings with an 8-10 record, lost in the second round of its conference tournament and, you guessed it, still made the NCAA Tournament, where the Orangemen got hot and advanced to the Sweet 16."

    Ummm.... wrong. You assumptions is that all conferences are created equal. You seem to forget that 4 of the 16 all come from one conference. Comparing say Syracuse's regular schedule to say BYUs schedule is not an apples to apples comparison. Gonzaga has struggled mightily in the years tourney. The fact they needed a last minute miracle to beat UNC Greensboro.... doesn't bode well.

    And yes, peaking at the right time is part of the season. That and matchups matter. Are all the teams that won in round one and two better than some of the teams that lost.... heck no. But that is the excitement of the tournament. On any given day a mid-major peaking at the right time, or a major program over looking and not preparing (Virginia) is what makes this fun.

    I am rooting for Gonzaga to go on a run here..... but I don't they by any stretch they are one of the best teams left. But that is the fun it....

  • toosmartforyou Kaysville, UT
    March 21, 2018 7:09 p.m.

    Doug, it doesn't matter which conference to which you belong or whether or not you were a champion; just win during the tournament. i suppose you're unhappy that a #16 seed finally made history and defeated a #1 seed....never happened before. They call it "Madness" for a reason because on paper it's a worthless on the court or go home. journalists should be able to understand that as it gives them countless story lines, as observed by you finding something to write about. NCAA Football should be so lucky to have such a thing.