Utah coach Larry Krystkowiak goes on a tirade about college basketball's foul-out rule after loss to Oregon

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  • StocksOnTheRocks Kaysville, UT
    March 13, 2018 5:40 p.m.

    "Depth" may be the word Larry is looking for.

  • Jello is Good ,
    March 12, 2018 11:26 a.m.

    @Laxman - taylorsville, UT
    March 10, 2018 4:02 p.m.

    "This article was teed up perfectly for byu-p fans to jump all over. Nice job sorenson."

    We don't need a tee to jump on Crisco. And, oh by the way, Lawrence teed this one up all by himself.

  • Picardy Provo, UT
    March 12, 2018 9:34 a.m.

    Laxman

    Larry tee'd this one up! It was his own words. If they embarrass you, don't blame the reporting source. It wasn't the article that created the controversy, it was the interview, on tape! Nah, this was just a bad moment for Larry that he'll have to own.

  • Picardy Provo, UT
    March 12, 2018 9:23 a.m.

    Follow that logic if you can! Yes, I am sure that Larry's interest is in giving the fans their money's worth by allowing limitless fouls. Little doubt that his interest in the fan experience would diminish if Oregon had stars on the bench. Come on Larry, you can't have both safety for your player and unlimited fouls. Bottom line: your team lost, and not because of rules that have been part of the game since ... ah ... the invention of the game! The rules didn't get in you way, Oregon did!

  • Laxman taylorsville, UT
    March 10, 2018 4:02 p.m.

    This article was teed up perfectly for byu-p fans to jump all over. Nice job sorenson.

  • PorLibertad Salt Lake City, UT
    March 10, 2018 2:58 p.m.

    I thought BYU stunk it up this season but in the end not as ugly as Utah's horrible season. With both teams not going anywhere but the NIT, it would probably be our luck that they play each other again. If they do and BYU wins, I'm betting that coach Larry will fault the refs for the loss.
    I would hope that Utah could bring in a lot better coach for the salary he is being paid. What a disgrace and an insult to Utah taxpayers and boosters!

  • Zyme Logan, UT
    March 10, 2018 12:22 p.m.

    Coach K. is a good coach, BUTTT, highly OVERPAID... how do university presidents and AD's get conned into such awful contracts? Consider his contract plus the busload of assistant coaches on the bench and what kind of "bang" is Utah getting for it's hoops $$$$$???? I enjoy watching the Utes and they are well coached. Butttt, NOT kamillions worth!!!

  • Old But Not Stupid Moorpark, CA
    March 10, 2018 11:20 a.m.

    I'm sad that the "k" would take the game even farther away from the finesse game played in my day.

    1. Most players today would foul out of the game in the first 20 minutes due to the constant leaning and shoving by defenders or "hooking" and pushing off by dribblers.
    2. Watch how often (85% of the time) players shuffle or change pivot foot when they just catch a pass and prepare for their next move.
    3. Watch how often (98% of the time) all dribblers "palm" or carry the ball without it being called.

    I still love college basketball with all its flaws, but I never watch the pro game--it makes me ill!

  • JSKM1232 Sandy, UT
    March 10, 2018 11:00 a.m.

    @wer - South Jordan, UT

    "Any Utah tax payer who really Coach K deserves to be the 8th highest paid paid coach in the nation should volunteer to pay my portion of his salary. 8th highest?? He gets more than Roy Williams, the UNC coach whose 2nd stringers would beat the Utes any time, anywhere.

    Next, his buyout is-get this-$15 MILLION 750 Thousand!

    Not only should Coach K give back a significant portion of his salary, the Utah administration needs to carefully consider whether to retain the persons who signed off on all this wasted tax funded largess."
    - - - - -
    A large portion of salary is paid from (A) athletic receipts (gate receipts, PAC-12 revenue sharing, TV revenue, and athletic endorsement fees (B) Alumni Association.

    BTW I saw nowhere in the article a discussion of salaries only questions of fouling. Did I miss something?

  • JSKM1232 Sandy, UT
    March 10, 2018 10:54 a.m.

    @Bluto - Sandy, UT
    @SpokieUte

    "I'm sure Coach K appreciates your kind words, but his Duke Blue Devils will do just fine.
    No worries."
    - - - - -
    You should tell that to UNC, apparently they didn't get the memo.

  • Frozen Fractals Salt Lake City, UT
    March 10, 2018 10:42 a.m.

    Fouls in soccer just result in the ball being given back to the team who was fouled. That's different than the cards.

    In hockey a penalty most of the time just means having to deal with a power play. The game misconducts are the more severe things.

    The cards and game misconducts are more like the flagrant foul calls in basketball.

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    March 9, 2018 10:35 p.m.

    @SpokieUte

    I'm sure Coach K appreciates your kind words, but his Duke Blue Devils will do just fine.
    No worries.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    March 9, 2018 8:19 p.m.

    Coach K, you are spot on I so appreciate the job you’ve done this year. You’re an amazing coach and a good person, God bless. It’s a great day to be a youth, as always

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    March 9, 2018 8:17 p.m.

    @ top of the world

    I always appreciate our dialogue. I’m a big fan of Coach K through and through. I think he’s right. We lost Oregon fair and square I wish them the best going forward with that said peace brother thanks for civil dialogue

  • gchris rock springs, wy
    March 9, 2018 5:26 p.m.

    Coach Krystkowiak's wanting to make the game more physical by allowing unlimited fouling is really rich. Nothing more has to be said.

  • And so it begins... Sandy, UT
    March 9, 2018 4:44 p.m.

    niners

    "BYU fans on here acting like they don’t blame the refs for EVERY loss in EVERY sport posted on Dnews."

    That's been the totally false claim by our delusional little brothers for years.

    Laughable, considering all of the whining about officiating we've seen from Utah this year.

    - Utah AD Chris Hill fined $10,000 by Pac-12 for post game tirade
    - Utah's HC Larry Krystkoviak restrained by assistants from attacking referee
    - Utah coach Larry Krystkowiak goes on a tirade about college basketball's foul-out rule

    The "hits" just keep on coming by the pots calling the kettle black.

  • vasislos Holbrook, AZ
    March 9, 2018 4:02 p.m.

    A new copy of the rule book is issued each year. They usually have some "point of emphasis" for the coming season. Some years back it was "rough play" for a few years in a row. I think that they just gave up. Referees are incapable or unwilling to call the game as dictated by the rule book. Most referees free-lance the rule book and a team can never know how the game will be called. Often the calls vary within a game. The players are great athletes and can adjust the game to how it is consistently called. And coaches can teach to the rule book. When rules are up to how the refs feel that night, then how does a player and his coach prepare.
    What tops this is the play-by-play and color commentators who say such really stupid things as "the refs are letting them play." No, they are letting them cheat.
    Oh, and there is more than a few coaches who teach their players how to cheat and get away with it. You know - only a foul if it is called.

  • Well.... Phoenix, AZ
    March 9, 2018 4:02 p.m.

    What other sports penalize players for fouling, Larry? That's a serious question? Yes, Larry, it *does* happen in soccer. Let's see, also, um, football? Volleyball? Hockey? Bowling? In virtually ANY sport, there are penalties for illegally making contact with other players. Just a suggestion, Larry: Put more time into teaching your players how to defend without fouling and less time whining about how much time they spend on the bench.

  • redfeather Palo Alto, CA
    March 9, 2018 3:28 p.m.

    If coach krysko wants to adopt the hockey rule for fouls, fine.

    Call every foul and as soon as a player picks up his 5th, he has to sit 2 minutes for an incidental foul, 5 minutes for a hard foul, while his team plays short-handed 4 on 5.

    Keeping teams to no less than 3 players on the court at a time, we could have long stretches of 3 on 3 ball.

    Be careful what you wish for Larry.

  • niners Fayetteville, NC
    March 9, 2018 3:19 p.m.

    BYU fans on here acting like they don’t blame the refs for EVERY loss in EVERY sport posted on Dnews.

  • toosmartforyou Kaysville, UT
    March 9, 2018 3:05 p.m.

    The college game has become more physical because of the flow down from the professional game; high school play has become more physical because of the flow down from college play. It's just natural that there are questionable calls in the NBA ever game and since the three-point line (arch) was painted on the floor, the game has changed immensely. But what has been constant is that basketball players are allowed 6 fouls in the pros and 5 in college and high school. That is in place for good reasons, because to change the game into football would be wrong. It used to be called a "non-contact sport" which presently is a laughable, non-existent term that is meaningless. Then is was "incidental contact with no harm/no foul." Now it's "whatever you can get away with according to the specific game officials." And, losers still cry and moan, whining that "the game is unfair"--especially after they suffer an upset.

  • rslutefan Gilbert, AZ
    March 9, 2018 2:59 p.m.

    You can't get rid of foul calls and a player accumulating fouls. Otherwise, you would pick the teams worst free throw shooter and foul him every time the other team had the ball. Jayce Johnson for example. If I was Oregon, I would have fouled him with every single play and watched that ridiculous attempt at free throw shooting.

    Yes, Collette had 2 very bad calls go against him and it did change the complexion of the game. Yes, Collette and Rawson fouled out and Oregon's McIntosh (guilty of multiple plowing thru players) did not pick up a single foul call.

    Collette and Rawson on the bench meant more Offensive RBs for Oregon and less for Utah. It had its impact but the refs were not responsible for the lousy shot selection, miscues on defensive coverage, and 12 minutes of no field goals made by the Utes. The Utes of mostly been a 3 man team all year and the disappearing act of Bealer, Seely, Tillman, Johnson, and little from Van Dyke couldn't make up for the efforts by Bibbins, Collette, and Barefield. That is players and coaching!

    Larry needs to look in the mirror and say "I probably need to have more than one decent big man on the roster."

  • wer South Jordan, UT
    March 9, 2018 2:41 p.m.

    Any Utah tax payer who really Coach K deserves to be the 8th highest paid paid coach in the nation should volunteer to pay my portion of his salary. 8th highest?? He gets more than Roy Williams, the UNC coach whose 2nd stringers would beat the Utes any time, anywhere.

    Next, his buyout is-get this-$15 MILLION 750 Thousand!

    Not only should Coach K give back a significant portion of his salary, the Utah administration needs to carefully consider whether to retain the persons who signed off on all this wasted tax funded largess.

  • Whatsnu Sandy, UT
    March 9, 2018 2:39 p.m.

    Lone*Star

    "Utah Utes guard Justin Bibbins drives into Oregon Ducks forward Troy Brown during the Pac-12 basketball tournament in Las Vegas"

    Bibbins is very good at initiating contact and then selling the contact as a foul by the opposing player.

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    land of oz

    "Fouls are obviously a good thing for Utah fans and coaches, as long as they're not called on the Utes."

    Obviously.

    Bibbins scored 10 points off of such foul calls, but you'll NEVER see coach 80k whining about such calls because they might put an opposing player in foul trouble.

  • Lone*Star Austin, TX
    March 9, 2018 2:21 p.m.

    land of oz

    "It's interesting how we never hear Utah fans whine about a foul being called when Justin Bibbins intentionally drives into another player and then flops to draw a blocking foul."

    For example, see photo #19:

    "Utah Utes guard Justin Bibbins drives into Oregon Ducks forward Troy Brown during the Pac-12 basketball tournament in Las Vegas"

  • PAC man Anaheim, CA
    March 9, 2018 2:15 p.m.

    "It's interesting how we never hear Utah fans whine about a foul being called when Justin Bibbins intentionally drives into another player and then flops to draw a blocking foul."

    It would be interesting to see how many opposing players have fouled out of games this year because of foul calls that Bibbins has drawn by flopping.

  • land of oz Redmond, WA
    March 9, 2018 1:29 p.m.

    Cool Cool

    "That game sucked, and not because Utah lost, but because both Oregon and Utah were dealing with foul trouble to their big guys because the referees called fouls for every time anyone came in contact with anyone else."

    It's interesting how we never hear Utah fans whine about a foul being called when Justin Bibbins intentionally drives into another player and then flops to draw a blocking foul.

    It's no coincidence that Bibbins shot 3 more foul shots, 11, than the rest of the Utes combined, 8.

    Fouls are obviously a good thing for Utah fans and coaches, as long as they're not called on the Utes.

  • ShaneWillis Draper, UT
    March 9, 2018 1:06 p.m.

    Water Rocket, Have you seen the roster for next year? Never know until they are on the court, but this has the chance to be the most talent he has had...we shall see.

  • CoolCool SLC, UT
    March 9, 2018 12:52 p.m.

    As whiny as it sounds after a loss, Krystco has been very consistent about this issue over the last several years, and he's absolutely right. One of the biggest reasons that college basketball puts out a crappy product is that referees are terrible and take away from the entertainment value of the game.

    That game sucked, and not because Utah lost, but because both Oregon and Utah were dealing with foul trouble to their big guys because the referees called fouls for every time anyone came in contact with anyone else. It was borderline unwatchable, and it had nothing to do with the teams and players, but because the refs were awful.

    Complain about star treatment all you want, but the NBA puts out a much much better product in large part because the referees understand that they are tools for putting out an entertaining product, and they know not to foul out the best players unless they are committing clear fouls.

    I'm not saying players should never foul out, but it shouldn't be an entire focus of certain teams to throw themselves at key big-men in an effort to get those big men off the court. That makes college bball absolutely terrible to watch.

  • water rocket Magna, UT
    March 9, 2018 12:17 p.m.

    Chris B, you had six comments posted here (is there no limit?) However, while I don't always agree with you, I sure do agree with your posts here. I think I should mention that the Ute AD, Chris Hill, was caught on a coach K interview ripping into the officials after a game. Also, it should be mentioned (along with coach K's salary) that he is under contract until 2023. In other words, the U is stuck with him for a long time, and he doesn't have many players willing to play for him for very long. The glory days of Utah basketball are in the rear view mirror.

  • Austin Coug Pflugerville, TX
    March 9, 2018 12:05 p.m.

    @ShaneWillis

    Read the article. Coach is still a whiner.

    - Whiners ask for rule changes AFTER the game is over.
    - Whiners only bring up their complaints if their team is negatively impacted. Where was this rant when he played ASU and they had 3 players foul out?
    - Whiners cancels games because of "safety" concerns when we all know his big ego was the real reason.

    I get why he is upset. He is an intense coach and his team lost a close game. His team took 3rd in the Pac-12 and normally that would get you in the NCAA tournament. Not this year with a watered down Pac-12. He needed another win or two.

    Personally, I think he has been a good coach for Utah. However, his antics are borish and his ego and anger issues are over the top. I would love to see what rule changes he is really proposing. I just struggle to see how getting rid of "fouls" would help the game.

  • Trigotan Kennewick, WA
    March 9, 2018 11:47 a.m.

    NOT overheard at a Larry K press conference: “That was a tough loss. I'm proud of our effort, but ultimately we were outcoached and outplayed tonight. I commend their coaches for their preparation and in-game adjustments and their players for their perseverance to come back from a large deficit and make big plays when the game was on the line. We'll take a look at the film to identify areas in which we can improve, and work on those areas in our practice and preparation for the next opponent."

  • Trigotan Kennewick, WA
    March 9, 2018 11:49 a.m.

    NOT overheard at a Larry K press conference: “That was a tough loss. I'm proud of our effort, but ultimately we were outcoached and outplayed tonight. I commend their coaches for their preparation and in-game adjustments and their players for their perseverance to come back from a large deficit and make big plays when the game was on the line. We'll take a look at the film to identify areas in which we can improve, and work on those areas in our practice and preparation for the next opponent."

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    March 9, 2018 11:19 a.m.

    Shane

    "How many of you criticizing the AP COACH OF THE YEAR actually read the article"

    First, he's AP Pac 12 coach of the year so lets clarify that.

    Second, good job on the caps for emphasis. NICE WORK there

    Third, if he really cared about it, he'd have voiced his displeasure during games he wins or benefits from the other teams fouling out.

    Versus ASU, ASU was called for 12 more fouls and had THREE guys foul out. Did he bring up his platform then?

    Nope. Interesting

  • Rockwell Baltimore, MD
    March 9, 2018 11:08 a.m.

    It's so ironic that the coach who lectures everybody else about player safety and making the game less rough, is arguing to increase the amount of fouling allowed.

    Coach 80k encourages his players to draw charging fouls by flopping, but whines about his own players being called for too many fouls.

    The hypocrisy is absolutely astounding.

  • ShaneWillis Draper, UT
    March 9, 2018 10:47 a.m.

    How many of you criticizing the AP COACH OF THE YEAR actually read the article, or watched the interview? He has been saying the same thing for years. He said that he wouldn’t want Oregon’s best players on the bench because of fouls either. He referenced the championship game last year, as an example. Read before you comment! You call it whining, I call it responding to a question and trying to have a constructive dialogue about an issue that would improve the game. When you whine about someone else whining, are you a whiner?

  • DeepBlue Anaheim, CA
    March 9, 2018 10:40 a.m.

    The foul out rule is meant to keep basketball from becoming football on hardwood.

    Without it, players would simply grab opposing players on every shot attempt, rebound, lose ball, or anytime an opposing player gained any sort of advantage.

    It would turn EVERY game into a constant stream of free throw shooting.

    Simply wrap your arms around the worst free throw shooter on the opposing team on every possession.

    Basketball would devolve into completely unwatchable chaos and the sport would die within a season.

  • bluesmule Sandy, UT
    March 9, 2018 10:38 a.m.

    It’s amazing how many Ute fans are sticking up for Coach Kry’s comments. Just because he’s the HC of a team you like doesn’t mean you have to agree with him. He never complains when players from the other team foul out. The rules are the same for everyone, and both Utah and Oregon has the same number of personal fouls, so get over it. Teach your guys inside not to rebound over the back and teach your players to plant their feet when trying to take a charge. That’s on you, coach, not the refs. Don’t let the refs have any doubt about a foul, because guess what, they’re human too, and they’re gonna make mistakes. So be as clean as possible and maybe you’ll see better officiating. I can’t believe this guy is the 8th highest paid coach in the league.

  • top of the world ,
    March 9, 2018 10:30 a.m.

    Spokane...I nearly always enjoy and agree with much of what you offer in your posts. Not here, however. This guy is dynamite ready to explode. I believe the foul calling in the so-called non-contact sport has gotten out of line, not due to the fouling out process, but because there is way to much pushing and shoving in the key, almost always benefiting the big man with the ball as he shoves and bumps and pushes his opponent, seeking a better close-in position to launch his shot. It almost makes me mad enough to yell as I watch this happen time after time. And then to top it off, the dude playing defense, trying to hold a spot that is his, gets called for the foul. Almost every time, despite the big boy with the ball throwing his shoulder into him. No finesse, just brute strength.

    But as you know from my previous rants, I don't much care for the guy in charge of Ute b-ball. I really like the players and other aspects of the program. I predicted early on that the U would get an invite to the Dance. We'll have to wait to see if a narrow loss spells NIT.

  • Dave Matthews Sammamish, WA
    March 9, 2018 10:27 a.m.

    I am shocked that “safety first” coach 80K is lobbying for more fouling in college basketball. How hypocritical can a man be. If a highly paid coach cannot coach his players how to play the game under the rules then I think it’s time to find a new coach. If a player is on the bench then next man up as Ute fans alway say. If the next man up is incapable then that shows the highly paid coach did a terrible job recruiting. Time for a pay cut.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    March 9, 2018 10:23 a.m.

    Spokane

    "I never said we didn’t lose fair and square guy." No but you're whining about something mostly irrelevant in terms of us winning and losing the game, which is all that matters

    If you're truly passionate about too many guys fouling out - so interesting you(and Larry) didn't comment on the issue when ASU was called for 12 more fouls vs Utah this year and ASU fouled out 3 guys. Larry is a whiner when he loses.

  • BYURUGGER Fulshear, TX
    March 9, 2018 10:16 a.m.

    Gee, from past behavior, I thought he was a safety first kind of guy. Oh, by the way, Oregon had two players sit early because they had two fouls. Doesn't seem unfair to me.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    March 9, 2018 10:13 a.m.

    JustGordon

    If you knew much about soccer, you'd know that yes the quantity of fouls in soccer by a given player influences the referee on when to hand out yellow and red cards. In fact you'll see quite often the referee letting a player know when he's pushing the limit(not just on severity but number of fouls) and that next time it'll be a card. If you didnt know that, consider yourself informed..

  • Mr. Boris Layton, UT
    March 9, 2018 10:14 a.m.

    I didn't realize we were talking about soccer or hockey.

    Each sport has it's own rules and the game is played by those rules so the comparisons with hockey and soccer are irrelevant.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    March 9, 2018 10:12 a.m.

    Chris B

    I never said we didn’t lose fair and square guy. We lost to a better team that just outplayed us. See that giving credit where credit is due, you might want to get that shot. Then again just keep banging on your chest about the PAC 12, that’s what you do best . That and jumping on and off the bandwagon. Have a great weekend Chris, and by all means grab another PAC 12 bumper sticker to throw on your minivan

  • Mr. Boris Layton, UT
    March 9, 2018 10:10 a.m.

    Little coach K went on a tirade?

    Isn't this the same guy who likes to lecture everybody else about sportsmanship and safety?

  • 65TossPowerTrap Salmon, ID
    March 9, 2018 10:08 a.m.

    For what it's worth - I think college refs call way too many fouls. I didn't watch this game so I have no idea if Larry K's beef is legit, or if he is just looking for someone to blame. College bball has no flow largely because a whistle is always blowing.

  • toosmartforyou Kaysville, UT
    March 9, 2018 10:04 a.m.

    @ Chris B

    Thank you.

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    March 9, 2018 10:00 a.m.

    @Esquire

    you ask:

    "Where has Krystkowiak been for his whole life?
    How many years of basketball does Krystkowiak have under his belt?"

    As they say....

    If you're not-Bubble-Wrapped, Angry, Cheating, Krying or Whining

    Then you are not "Lawrence of Missoula" !

    Pac-12 Coach of the Year ? hee heee

    I know...I know
    and
    Jimmy Carter, Al Gore, Yassar Arafat, and Barack Obama all won the Nobel Peace Prize.

    So much for prizes..

    So much for Adults facing adversity with calm, cool and composure.

  • pacmidmajor Springville, UT
    March 9, 2018 9:49 a.m.

    And to think that this is one of the highest paid coaches in college basketball ... Time for Hill and the U to be called on the Rug ....

  • Otoavalu Ann Arbor, MI
    March 9, 2018 9:47 a.m.

    Well it does sound like whining, but if I were the coach, I wouldn't complain about the foul out rule. I would be complaining hard that the refs should CALL THE GAME BY THE ACTUAL WRITTEN RULES! Anyone can go read the NCAA rules. I did it recently. They are not the standard for calling fouls. The WRITTEN RULES make it much harder for a dribbler to legally get around a defender, much easier to get a charge, and much harder to maneuver in traffic.

    There is no rule that says the defender has to have their feet set to take a charge, for example. In fact the rule says that the defender can move laterally (sideways) or backwards at an angle (obliquely) and will not be penalized as long as they are not moving into the dribbler when contact is made. Here is one rule as an example:

    Art. 10. A dribbler shall neither charge into nor contact an opponent in the
    dribbler’s path nor attempt to dribble between two opponents or between an
    opponent and a boundary, unless the space is sufficient to provide a reasonable
    chance for the dribbler to pass through without contact.

    That doesn't sound like today's basketball. If refs actually called the rules coach K wouldn't need to worry about flouts

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    March 9, 2018 9:45 a.m.

    Time for some anger management courses for Coach Kry 80k...

  • Xpat1961 ,
    March 9, 2018 9:40 a.m.

    For once I agree with CB; in hockey you sit in the penalty box for 2 minutes and your team mates play 4 against 5. Maybe that is what Coach Cry wants?!
    Sure, they could go to 6 fouls like the NBA, but they would just foul out with 6 instead of 5.
    Bottom line, don't foul. The rules are the same for both teams.

  • JustGordon Salt Lake City, UT
    March 9, 2018 9:40 a.m.

    @ Chris B

    There are no "red" or "yellow" cards for common fouls only for flagrant fouls. Basketball already has similar designations with flagrant 1's and flagrant 2's - which is basketball's equivalent of a red card.

    The 5 foul rule is from a by gone era when basketball was not considered a contact sport. Bigger bodies and more aggressive tactics have made that valuation old fashioned.

    Let players foul as long as they are not flagrant fouls. The "penality" is one or two foul shots.

    Personally, I think, if a player is fouled in the act of shooting a 2 or a 3, that making only one shot at the foul line should be recorded as 2 or 3 points depending on where they were shooting originally.

    Why should the player have to make all three or both shots to get what originally one shot was going to score? The odds of missing increase with the number of attempts it takes. That means fouling in encouraged not discouraged.

  • Jacobiuntherus Salt Lake City, UT
    March 9, 2018 9:39 a.m.

    @niners - Fayetteville, NC:

    Woe man, you sound just as whiny as coach K. Maybe the more money a coach (or a fan makes) the more they think they can whine?

  • Uteofferouus Salt Lake City, UT
    March 9, 2018 9:36 a.m.

    C'mon coach, you lost fair and square to a team that out played your team and to a coach that makes less money than you who out coached you!

    Time to review the obscene salary being paid to Larry Kryskoviak - he certainly isn't earning it and all it does is make it so fans cannot afford to attend the games.

    There is so much whining emanating from the University of Utah these days. My sense is that such comportment is unbecoming in the eyes of the other members of the "conference of champions"?

  • 79Ute Orange County, CA
    March 9, 2018 9:34 a.m.

    The big problem with last night's foul situation is that Utah has no depth. That's a recruiting issue. Recruiting is a coaching issue.

    Utah has great facilities and great tradition, but isn't getting great recruits out of high school. LK must find some transfers for next year (like he was able to do with Collette, Bibbens, and Rawson) or Utah will be sitting at the bottom of the conference. Our backup center got one point last night. U can't build a team around him.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    March 9, 2018 9:28 a.m.

    Forgive spokane, he's just bitter Utah lost.

    We lost fair and square. The whining is not a good look on anyone.

  • Pugman Tremonton, UT
    March 9, 2018 9:16 a.m.

    As Dan Roberts would say at Vivant Home arena, if the Utes played there... " And now everybody, introducing your Pac 12 coach of the year".

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    March 9, 2018 9:09 a.m.

    spokane

    "Players come out of the penalty box, when a player fouls out they don’t return. Get a clue"

    And yet they are forced to sit, similar to a coach being forced to sit a player in the first half with 2 fouls.

    Get a clue. The comparison is pretty good actually. And in soccer they dont return with a red card. Larry(and you) need to get a clue and stop whining like a baby.

  • Sanefan Wellsville, UT
    March 9, 2018 9:08 a.m.

    Well, coach 80K and Ute can now officially own the title of most whiny fans. Not only are they whining about the refs, they want the entire game changed to appease them. Now that is the epitome of arrogance.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    March 9, 2018 9:00 a.m.

    In football you can get 10 penalty flags thrown at one player. He’s not removed from the game. In hockey you can get a ton of penalties, you go to the penalty box and come back on the ice. Basketball is the only sport that penalizes their players in such a way, Coach K is Spot on.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    March 9, 2018 8:58 a.m.

    James d Morrison

    Players come out of the penalty box, when a player fouls out they don’t return. Get a clue

  • 65TossPowerTrap Salmon, ID
    March 9, 2018 8:55 a.m.

    So did Oregon players get 6 fouls before fouling out? Something tells me that if Oregon's best player got the left-right-left-right treatment, Larry K. wouldn't be having this discussion.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    March 9, 2018 8:55 a.m.

    He’s absolutely right. He just has the backbone to talk about it where most coaches don’t

  • james d. morrison Sandy, UT
    March 9, 2018 8:51 a.m.

    Does he not know about the red card in soccer? Or about the penalty box in hockey? Or the targeting rule in football?

  • agarrett PROVO, UT
    March 9, 2018 8:50 a.m.

    He mentions soccer as a sport where they don't penalize guys for fouling. Really?? In soccer, you get 2 fouls (yellow cards) and you get ejected! Would he like that better? Two fouls and you're out of the game?

  • I want a taco Springville, UT
    March 9, 2018 8:36 a.m.

    Maybe the real issue isn’t the rules but how they are playing. Maybe someone should teach them not to foul. I am not sure who it is that is responsible for teaching and training them to play basketball. Whomever that is should consider doing it then instead of changing rules, that have existed forever, these athletes can just play within the constraints of those rules.

    Oh and soccer, hockey.......

  • land of oz Redmond, WA
    March 9, 2018 8:26 a.m.

    niners

    Bad calls occur in EVERY sport that's officiated.

    It all evens out in the end.

    Utah gets away with numerous flops every single game, that, at the very most, should be no calls.

    It's ridiculous how whiny Utah has been about the officiating this season, from their AD on down to their fans in the stands.

  • Cousineddy SLC, UT
    March 9, 2018 8:03 a.m.

    Have some cheese with that wine coach K

  • SportsFan Provo, UT
    March 9, 2018 8:01 a.m.

    I guess Larry didn't get the memo on college basketball's new foul-out rule.

  • toosmartforyou Kaysville, UT
    March 9, 2018 8:01 a.m.

    Interesting and predictable behavior by the losing coach after an upset. "We didn't win so the rules of the game need to be changed..." Whatever.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    March 9, 2018 7:55 a.m.

    Where has Krystkowiak been for his whole life? How many years of basketball does Krystkowiak have under his belt? He is whining about the number of fouls? Maybe he's in the wrong sport. Maybe MMA would be more his style. This isn't the first time he's boo-hoo'd about something that the rest of the world accepts. It's no wonder it is really hard to like him.

  • Confused Sandy, UT
    March 9, 2018 7:51 a.m.

    Maybe Larry should cancel the games for "Safety reasons".... I mean he did it with BYU, why not Oregon?

    All laughter aside, I have long said the NCAA needs to put all officials under their umbrella instead of have each conference control them. You would get a better and consistent calls being made.

  • niners Fayetteville, NC
    March 9, 2018 7:41 a.m.

    It is ridiculous in basketball because these fouls not only change the outcome of the game, they change the team as a whole for that game. In 2015 when Utah was playing Duke (who won the national championship) in the Sweet 16, Delon Wright got his second foul 5-10 minutes into the game on a loose ball that was in no way shape or form a foul. If you don't believe, me re-watch the game. Delon had 3 fouls by halftime, all questionable calls, and Utah lost by 6... Duke did not beat Utah's best team that day, they beat Utah without their best guard in 20 years. The punishment for fouling should only be the other team gets two free shots, which is enough in my opinion. As it stands, a foul means the other team gets two free shots and players get taken out of the game due to foul trouble. That's a little extreme for accidently tapping a players arm. If you want to see the best players play, and the best teams win, you would agree with Coach Kry. Anyone that doesn't agree, likes to watch players shoot free throws for 40 minutes; and the 5-10 teams in the nation with 10 NBA players on their roster win every year, because they have the bench depth to withstand foul trouble.

  • Sanefan Wellsville, UT
    March 9, 2018 7:39 a.m.

    Geez, this guy wants everyone to adapt to him. Just another over paid whiny coach.

  • mufasta American Fork, UT
    March 9, 2018 7:32 a.m.

    Whining and excuses doesn't win games Larry. Are we all sure he is a coach worthy of this salary?

  • jack1066 Burley, ID
    March 9, 2018 7:27 a.m.

    Doesn’t soccer have penalty kicks?
    Hockey has a penalty box, and they can’t substitute another player in. They play one person short.

  • Pipes Salt Lake City, UT
    March 9, 2018 6:37 a.m.

    Really? Don't foul and it's not a problem...

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    March 9, 2018 6:29 a.m.

    Sounding a little whiny Larry

    And do you realize in soccer if a certain player continues to commit many fouls, yes the referee will take the total fouls commit by them into consideration when handing out yellow cards and red cards, which yes leads to players sitting

    Why didn’t he cry when we shot 20 more free throws than ASU earlier this year?

    Stop whining and go win

  • Chamberlain Salt Lake City, UT
    March 9, 2018 5:19 a.m.

    It’s part of the game coach; get over your whiny excuses for losing.