March Madness is great, but what about the rest of the season?

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  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    March 10, 2018 10:28 a.m.

    Utah clearly inflates their attendance numbers and they should be called on it.

    Pictures do not lie.
    They'll announce crowds of 12-13k while pictures show the arena is not even half full.

    What's up with that?
    Phony Baloney!

    BYU, on the other hand, only counts tickets as they go through the turn styles.
    BYU's been a top 20 school Nationally in attendance, with basketball, for over 40 years.

    Utah has to make up numbers to try to keep up with BYU.

  • Allen C Christensen American Fork, UT
    March 9, 2018 12:41 p.m.

    I enjoyed this article. I have been thinking about my undergraduate days at BYU, 1953-57. It seems that we could get into the Smith Fieldhouse with our student activity card. It made a reasonably good date without a major layout of cash. For two of those winters I was in the band and at least one of them, we could bring a date with us. We perform our musical duties, cheer when appropriate--Clarence Robison lectured the crowd when there was booing and the referees were not perfect then either. The Cougarettes were also wonderful. We did not have to stand in long lines,but could use our student card to get tickets in advance. Sometimes there were dances after the games. It was a wonderful college atmosphere. The town folks who came could afford to take their family. The term student-athlete meant just that and players were more often dismissed for academic failure than for conduct unbecoming a Christian. Students and athletes were well groomed. A full-ride scholarship probably meant tuition and books and a housing allowance and Stan Watts may have made about what a full professor made, but perhaps a little more and the university was not evaluated on men placed in the NBA.

  • thebig1 Salt Lake City, UT
    March 9, 2018 9:38 a.m.

    Memo to thebig1 re-read your posts and perhaps correct major grammar errors
    Sincerely thebig1

  • thebig1 Salt Lake City, UT
    March 9, 2018 7:53 a.m.

    Great points Rock, too much saturation preseason league play then a torney and another torney, really just to take mote money from us. Rose wins 20 and it means nothing, a football team wins 6 and goes bowling, means nothing.
    Games mean nothing, when they do no local schools are there

  • Hickory Hollow Brentwood, TN
    March 8, 2018 7:03 p.m.

    I think College BB shouldn't start until mid January. Let College Football get finished. Move March Madness to May Madness. I think there would be more interest in the entire season if they did.

  • Louisiana Cougar Pineville, LA
    March 8, 2018 6:21 p.m.

    Brad:

    Went to Washington State University in Pullman for my PhD. Despite the fact that the team played some superb competition from the (now) PAC-12, the crowds were typically much smaller than BYU Volleyball games -- men or women.

    Provo is a unique basketball market. As a student, I loved going to the Smith Fieldhouse for many years and missed it when the Marriott Center was built . . . . and am glad to see that building remodeled.

    But college basketball is a dying sport unless teams are the equivalent of a St. Mary's, a Gonzaga, or a BYU. There's just too much competition for people's time and so many opportunities to avoid paying for a ticket to watch a questionable product.

    LC

  • at long last. . . Kirksville , MO
    March 8, 2018 3:36 p.m.

    The primary reason for lower actual attendance at games is the ubiquitous presence of games being televised. Why get dressed and go out, pay for parking, and pay exorbitant prices for refreshments, when you can stay in the comfort of your home, drink a beer on the couch, go to the toilet and not stand in line, get a better view of the game for no additional cost?

    I have season BB tickets and every time I go out in the snow and cold, I wonder why I don't just stay home and watch it on the tube. Haven't yet, but one of these years. . .

  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    March 8, 2018 2:28 p.m.

    "If you want to have successful college teams then prohibit these "student athletes" from leaving early."

    heckofamess:

    That's something only the NBA controls, not the NCAA. I'd like to see the NBA and NCAA reach a compromise. The NBA could take a kid right out of high school. But, if a kid enrolls in college, the NBA wouldn't take him until after his 3rd year--like the NFL.

  • Meckofahess Salt Lake City, UT
    March 8, 2018 1:54 p.m.

    I agree whole heartedly with carman's comment. The cost for tickets has now exceeded an average working father or mother from being able to take the family to a game. The salaries of the coaches are obscene and immoral and I for one will not attend a game to support that nonsense (same for an NBA game).

    Finally, an easy fix to one of the biggest problems is to stop allowing underclassmen to leave school early for the NBA. If you want to have successful college teams then prohibit these "student athletes" from leaving early. Fans love to root for a good player for the whole 4 years and it just leaves us feeling empty when these good players leave early to pursue the $.

  • carman Wasatch Front, UT
    March 8, 2018 12:52 p.m.

    Agree with most of Brad's points. I would add one more big one. Universities have massively increased the cost to attend both basketball and football games, all for facilities and to pay coaches and AD's huge sums. And its not just ticket prices. Other costs such as club fees to get preferential seats, concessions, limiting parking, etc., etc. have made it hard to justify attendance for all but the very wealthy and corporate sponsors.

    Starting putting the fans first again and attendance will improve.