Zags blow past BYU with huge run, earn 6th straight WCC tournament title

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  • Road Runner Cedar City, UT
    March 7, 2018 3:52 p.m.

    Portlander

    "What I am saying about Coach Rose is that he's been there a long time and should have the recruiting and game planning worked out by now. Mark Few has his worked out. Coach K up north has his worked out, pretty much."

    Few doesn't have to manage the comings and goings of missionaries, who are constantly creating "surprises".

    And, seriously, have you paid any attention to the constant merry-go-round of players coach 80k has "worked out"?

    NOBODY has a tougher job of managing a roster than Coach Rose, and to have done so and never had less than a 20-win season nor missed playing in either the NCAA or NIT, let alone never had a losing season, is remarkable.

  • Road Runner Cedar City, UT
    March 7, 2018 3:47 p.m.

    @talkinsports: "Nobody really expected a Freshman and Sophomore dominated BYU team to beat one of the Top 5 teams in the country."

    @Uteology: "Kentucky does it all the time, but then again they also have talent."

    Seriously, you're so desperate for a counter argument that you're using a one-and-done program that is stocked entirely with NBA players in waiting?

    btw, even mighty Kentucky has lost to Kansas, UCLA, Tenn, Fla, Mo, TA&M, Auburn and So Caro this year. The Wildcats even struggled to beat UVU on their home floor 73-63 and only beat Vermont 73-69. Kentucky hasn't beaten two Top 20 teams on back-to-back nights all season.

    FAIL!

  • rslutefan Gilbert, AZ
    March 7, 2018 3:26 p.m.

    Rose has been a good coach for BYU. Personally, I think they did pretty well all things considered. They don't have an extremely talent-laden roster. Tournaments are tough, especially if you are a guard-play team and rely on outside shooting. It's hit or miss on any night. BYU did well to get to the championship game and get past St. Mary's. BYU fans should generally be satisfied with this year's performance IMO.

  • portlander Arlington, WA
    March 7, 2018 2:37 p.m.

    What I am saying about Coach Rose is that he's been there a long time and should have the recruiting and game planning worked out by now. Mark Few has his worked out. Coach K up north has his worked out, pretty much.

    Someone who said that as a world-wide church, they should be recruiting world-wide, has got it right. World-wide recruiting is also a huge missionary tool as well!

  • BrianB Fort Wayne, IN
    March 7, 2018 2:05 p.m.

    It is time to stop comparing your team to another feeling one is better because another struggles.

    Rose did a great job this year and should not hang his head. You build a team three years out, which means when Mika and Emery left, he had two huge holes to fill. He had a couple of guys step up big, but the poster was right who said that two players don't beat five. Beating St. Mary's was HUGE.

    But the challenge the Cougs face now is that their youth will face a WCC that is young top to bottom. Gonzaga loses only three seniors. The WCC should be one of the top basketball conferences next season.

    As for the Utes, I hope they win the auto bid. I hope the Aggies, Wildcats and Wolverines also do well. I look for the day when they all go dancing and it's one big party.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    March 7, 2018 1:23 p.m.

    talkinsports - Gilbert, AZ
    March 7, 2018 8:04 a.m.
    Not a surprise at all.

    Nobody really expected a Freshman and Sophomore dominated BYU team to beat one of the Top 5 teams in the country.

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    Kentucky does it all the time, but then again they also have talent.

    You have 2 Freshman, they played 0 minutes until garbage time vs Gonzaga, 0 minutes vs SMU, and 1 minute vs SDU.

  • london_josh lincoln, CA
    March 7, 2018 1:19 p.m.

    "BYU doesn't make the NCAA tournament yet again, a tournament which includes 68 teams from across the country... and yet people continue to defend the coaching."

    68 teams, out of 347 teams, so it's a 19.5% chance of getting in, less if you aren't a P5 team.

    I'll defend Rose, he's not the greatest coach but we could do far far worse than him.

    To put it in perspective basketball won about 3/4 of the games while football won about 1/3 of the games.

    I think the whole get your pitchfork and riot, you didn't beat #6 Zags is a bit outrageous, we beat #2 Gonzaga last year.

    I think missions and transfers and recruiting put BYU in a pickle where potential could be better - so you adjust, you don't throw everything away and start from scratch.

    Rose is a great coach; he needs to fix some things, some of these fans need to be fans.

  • Sports Nutz Smithfield, UT
    March 7, 2018 12:37 p.m.

    cougs108,

    By the time these players get to college it is time to get rid of the "participation trophy" mentality of pre-school sports. It is one teams job to score and another to stop them....period.

  • localblue Sandy, UT
    March 7, 2018 12:33 p.m.

    Deepblue.

    Reality: BYU doesn't make the NCAA tournament yet again, a tournament which includes 68 teams from across the country... and yet people continue to defend the coaching.

    Coach Rose is a big boy and can handle the criticism. Treating him with kid gloves does him or nobody else any favors.

  • Whatsnu Sandy, UT
    March 7, 2018 11:39 a.m.

    hi-ya

    "BYU has not won against Gonzaga when it really counts…"

    BYU 89 Gonzaga 67 - in the 2011 NCAA tournament

    Losing by 1, or losing by 20, is inconsequential.

    NOBODY expected this BYU team to beat Saint Mary's and Gonzaga on back-to-back nights.

  • DeepBlue Anaheim, CA
    March 7, 2018 11:04 a.m.

    localblue

    Delusion: Assuming that coach speak is a true reflection of how any coach feels about a big loss.

  • hi-ya Murray, UT
    March 7, 2018 11:01 a.m.

    @phamtonblade… how so… answer is simple: BYU has not won against Gonzaga when it really counts… meaning earning a seat into the NCAA Tournament which means winning the WCC Tournament… which BYU has never done. I see no moral victory in this game. The game was not like the St. Mary's game. If BYU had played like they did with St. Mary's and lost to Gonzaga by 1 or 2 points… then maybe BYU fans would have something to cheer about.

  • localblue Sandy, UT
    March 7, 2018 10:39 a.m.

    Delusion: When you are down 32, you make a small run to make it a 20 point game, and you commend yourself for getting back in it, never realizing that your opponent backed off when they were up 30, because they take pity and realize it is getting downright embarrassing for you.

    “Our guys showed who they are and hung in there and made a run,” Rose said.

  • What in Tucket Provo, UT
    March 7, 2018 9:55 a.m.

    I felt this was a down year for BYU losing Mika and also Emery and no real center on the team. They did fairly well as in past years, but back to normal after beating St. Mary's. Still it is embarrassing that BYU cannot recruit better than teams that play in high school gyms.

  • Tomahawk Red Miami Beach, FL
    March 7, 2018 9:40 a.m.

    talkinsports - Gilbert, AZ
    March 7, 2018 8:04 a.m.

    On the bright side, BYU fans will get to watch the Cougars play at least one more game in the Marriott Center.

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    They're currently projected a 6 seed, so I dont think you can bank on that home game at this stage.

  • gchris rock springs, wy
    March 7, 2018 9:28 a.m.

    @ SoulKracker

    "Where is Jimmer when you need him!"

    He would probably have been sitting on the bench next to Dastrup watching Haws throw the ball away and Worthington missing three foot "bunnies." Dastrup played better in thirteen minutes than Worthington, Nixon and Seljaas comb to ined played the whole game. If next year's coach and team are the same, with only the addition of Gavin Baxter, Dastrup should transfer.

  • phantomblade Salt Lake City, Utah
    March 7, 2018 9:26 a.m.

    hi-ya

    "Gonzaga is fast becoming another "Utah" to BYU. Gonzaga (Basketball) Utah (football)."

    How so?

    Until this season, BYU had beaten the Zags three straight seasons in the Kennel, including last season when the Zags were 29-0 and ranked #1.

    In the WCC tourney, BYU simply ran out of steam against a much deeper, much more experienced Top 10 team after a physically and emotionally draining win versus another Top 20 team the night before.

  • cougs108 South Jordan, UT
    March 7, 2018 9:20 a.m.

    Just letting a little bit of steam off. With a 20 to 30 point lead the dogs keep all their starters in until a couple of minutes left in the game? They are still launching 3 pointers from the cheap seats? What gives? Until the Y starts recruiting 3 point shooters from around the globe we are basically sunk and will never win the WCC championship. Let's use our world wide church to recruit some great outside shooters from outside the USA. Come on!

  • Goldminer Salem, UT
    March 7, 2018 9:16 a.m.

    No question but what the Zags ARE very good! But, gee, can't we have some diversity and sympathy for other teams? How 'bout sharing the "winners" sharing their good players with the losers so their feelings aren't hurt. Isn't that what college is all about nowadays? [sarcasm, sarcasm! :) ]

    The Y just blew it, period! Where the heck was TJ? 4 points? Come on. I know he can do better than that!

    Let's see what happens next year.

  • Road Runner Cedar City, UT
    March 7, 2018 9:12 a.m.

    Esquire

    "Fitness issue? Tired? Not mentally tough? This team just is not finishing strong, going out with a whimper. Great teams finish strong."

    What are you talking about?

    BYU beat #20/#19 Saint Mary's less than 24 hours earlier.

    Did you really expect a Freshman and Sophomore dominated team to be able to beat the #6/#6 Gonzaga?

    Where on earth did you come up with the idea that this is a "great" BYU team?

  • hi-ya Murray, UT
    March 7, 2018 8:50 a.m.

    Gonzaga is fast becoming another "Utah" to BYU. Gonzaga (Basketball) Utah (football). Question is when is BYU going to learn that there is nothing omnipotent about either school in either sport. How can BYU be so good the night before with St. Mary's and not display the same kind of poise and confidence with Gonzaga the following night… has got to be one of the seven wonders of the universe.

  • CG Provo, UT
    March 7, 2018 8:40 a.m.

    One Angry Salebarn Worker

    "How long before Dastrup announces his departure?"

    If he's really the team player he's acted like all season, never.

    He needs to work on his low post footwork and defense and he could be a big contributor next season.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    March 7, 2018 8:32 a.m.

    Fitness issue? Tired? Not mentally tough? This team just is not finishing strong, going out with a whimper. Great teams finish strong.

  • toosmartforyou Kaysville, UT
    March 7, 2018 8:13 a.m.

    .BYU could have, with a little more accuracy, led by 12-0 at the start; I was happy when it was tied at 27. The last three minutes of the first half and the first 3 minutes of the 2nd half are critical. The Zags went on an 11-2 run, leading by 9 at half time. Coach Rose SAT and watched it...NO coaching, figuring "we'll fix it at half time." WRONG!! When you have unused time outs, you're a viewer like the TV audience. The half-time "fix" was to give sleeping pills! It took 5 minutes to score a bucket.

    I counted at least 5 turnovers by Haws, who had a terrible game. The center missed countless shots down low in the paint and was not fouled because there wasn't any called; he just missed. Many shots in the 5 - 10 foot ranged were missed by every BYU player and they weren't close. Sloan used to say "They couldn't throw the ball into the ocean if they were standing on the shore".

    Giving the early semifinal game to the #1 seed is a real advantage because they (coaches and players) can scout the late game. Is that fair? It seems to be the reward for being the top seed.

    BYU made it to the finals; they need to elevate their goals. Winning NIT games would be a nice start.

  • Robroy Salt Lake City, UT
    March 7, 2018 8:10 a.m.

    The chances of the Cougs beating the #6 team in the country were slim at best. Good run though for an undermanned team. To the ute naysayers who continue to make lame excuses for your loss to the Cougs....the Cougs had just as many injuries if not more. Three of their big guys didn't really play all season. Just remember two things: 1. 77-65 and 2. The Zags are better than all pac12 teams. Mark it down.

  • talkinsports Gilbert, AZ
    March 7, 2018 8:07 a.m.

    Dixie Dan

    "I wonder how many players on the current team would NOT have received a scholarship if they had played on an out-of-state team and not the Wasatch Front?"

    Every player on this team could have played for many different out-of-state Division 1 teams.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    March 7, 2018 8:07 a.m.

    taylormade1 - Springville, UT
    March 6, 2018 10:37 a.m.

    “azuter,
    I had no idea that you were on the selection committee ! Keep posting though, you make me laugh with your comments ... We're go'in dancing baby !!”

    taylormade1 - Springville, UT
    March 6, 2018 10:42 a.m.

    “Pack your bags azzy, we' re go'in Danc’n !!”

    You were saying?

  • talkinsports Gilbert, AZ
    March 7, 2018 8:04 a.m.

    Not a surprise at all.

    Nobody really expected a Freshman and Sophomore dominated BYU team to beat one of the Top 5 teams in the country.

    The Cougars hung with the Zags early, but, the emotional and physical fatigue from their hard-fought win over the Gaels began to show near the end of the first half.

    On the bright side, BYU fans will get to watch the Cougars play at least one more game in the Marriott Center.

    A nice little run in the NIT would be a great springboard for next season when BYU should have the same team back with another year's experience.

  • JackRyanSLC Salt Lake City, UT
    March 7, 2018 8:03 a.m.

    I think the Zags make a good case why BYU should get back to the MWC for football purposes. Being in a small conference doesn't seem to hurt Gonzaga as they dominate it and then get rewarded nationally. If BYU could dominate the MWC, I think that would give them a much better chance of getting momentum and attention instead of playing a front loaded P5 schedule that takes them off the radar after the first month of the season.

  • One Angry Salebarn Worker Salt Lake City, UT
    March 7, 2018 7:56 a.m.

    How long before Dastrup announces his departure?

  • No playoff for U Salt Lake City, UT
    March 7, 2018 7:51 a.m.

    I Still Can't Say It

    "The only reason BYU beat Utah is the Utes had too many injuries in December."

    Just another whiny excuse from the hill.

    BYU beat Utah because BYU is the better team.

    The Cougars have beaten the Utes 13 of the last 19, including 10 double-digit wins and three 20-point blowouts.

    BYU lead Utah this year by 16 with less than than a minute left, so the final could have very easily have been another 20-point blowout.

    The Gonzaga team that BYU lost to last night is much better than any team in the PAC 12.

  • Y Ask Y Provo, UT
    March 7, 2018 7:31 a.m.

    36-4 run. Ouch!

    Is BYU NIT-bound? Again?

  • soulkracker Kansas City, MO
    March 7, 2018 7:25 a.m.

    Where is Jimmer when you need him!

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    March 7, 2018 7:14 a.m.

    "Over the next 11 minutes, the Zags buried the Cougars with a decisive 36-4 run and what had been a tightly contested contest quickly turned into a rout."

    That's got to be some sort of tourney record, 36-4 run. BYU looked lost on defense and couldn't buy a basket during that run. If the Zags can play like that in the NCAA tournament, they've got a legit shot at the title.

  • at long last. . . Kirksville , MO
    March 7, 2018 7:07 a.m.

    A very enjoyable game to watch. Loved the outcome. I do admire the TDS playing defense - I have not seen this prior to this year.

  • Dixie Dan St George, UT
    March 7, 2018 7:05 a.m.

    I wonder how many players on the current team would NOT have received a scholarship if they had played on an out-of-state team and not the Wasatch Front?

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    March 7, 2018 7:01 a.m.

    This is a very good Gonzaga team. Maybe not quite as good as last year, but not that far behind. The scary thing is that this team could have Nigel-Goss, Sabonis and Zac Collins playing for it. Not a lot of shame in losing to the Zags; BYU just ran out of gas. Gonzaga was fresh as they have a deep bench and they were able to rest a lot of players in the semis.

  • portlander Arlington, WA
    March 7, 2018 7:02 a.m.

    It is a little surprising that the WCC does not give the semi-finalists an extra night off before the championship game. It would have helped the Cougs, but maybe not have changed the inevitable. As long as the Zags are a part of the WCC, I won't be disappointed that they win out their conference and go on to the big dance. I'll have to keep on holding out for their eventual national championship although. They don't have a much better chance at that, than BYU does at winning the WCC.

    And my last thought: BYU always has one of the best overall records of any team going into the NIT, and their showing their is always so disappointing. If they don't win out at the NIT this year, I think it would be time for Coach Rose to retire. Talent development lacks at BYU as well as recruiting. And game planning seems to be lacking as well, many times.

  • Dennis Harwich, MA
    March 7, 2018 6:54 a.m.

    I'd be surprised if this is interpreted an unexpected outcome.

  • Procoug Layton, UT
    March 7, 2018 6:12 a.m.

    Congrats to the Zags! Wow, what a run.
    Well done BYU. You were in the finals and represented well. Thank you.
    Go Cougars!

  • Pipes Salt Lake City, UT
    March 7, 2018 6:06 a.m.

    BYU was outclassed in every aspect of the game. Only Childs and Bryant showed up to play. Gonzaga could have won solely on the points after turnovers committed by Haws.

  • I Still Can't Say It Holladay, UT
    March 7, 2018 12:35 a.m.

    The only reason BYU beat Utah is the Utes had too many injuries in December. Utah is the better team this year and will prove it by playing in the NCAAs while BYU goes to the kiddy table at the NIT.

  • Not Much of a Fan Irvine, CA
    March 7, 2018 12:29 a.m.

    It's impossible for two players to beat five.

  • Kralon HUNTINGTON BEACH, CA
    March 6, 2018 11:13 p.m.

    BYU did better than I expected by beating the 20th best team in the nation, but couldn't get past the 6th. Too bad BYU couldn't continue its run of beating Gonzaga once a season.

    BYU has done better this year than I expected thanks to most players stepping up their game in spite of the loss of a few key players from last year.

    Nice tournament run, go Cougars!