Gonzaga crushes BYU's dreams of making NCAA Tournament in convincing fashion

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  • General Alpine, UT
    March 7, 2018 10:28 p.m.

    I hope the cougars are excited to be in the NIT, going on a 4 or 5 game win streak would be great. Frankly I'd rather see them do well in the NIT than lose in the first round of the NCAA tournament. 3-5 more games would also season them well. Maybe TJ can toughen up a bit more in those games. He looked scared when he had an open lane to the basket in the first half and just flipped it up for a miss instead of taking it strong to the basket. Is he injured and trying to protect himself?

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    March 7, 2018 8:41 p.m.

    @conradgurch

    "BYU should drop down to Division II. This would enable them to be a big duck in a little pond."
    ********
    If they were to do that then just imagine how much more embarrassing that would be for the utes when they lose 12 of the past 16 games they played against BYU (including the 12 point pounding that they took this year)?... I guess you and your utes could take the same road that y'all have taken with UVU and Utah State... simply refuse to play the Cougs on any floor except the HC... But come to think about it, that was the tactic that coach kry and the good dr. hill took a couple of years ago, wasn't it? LOL, another ute fan strategy to down play the embarrassment that they have faced playing the Cougs over the past 10 years.

  • Eastern CO Coug Elizabeth, CO
    March 7, 2018 7:22 p.m.

    Guess I will try this again. Some censoring seems to be going on regarding comments on Haws. He had a good freshman year and I was excited about his future. This year was a tough one for him for whatever reasons. Just did not have his freshman zip. Some steals. More turnovers and poor shooting. Hope he gets better for his Junior year. Hope this passes the press' PC censors.

  • BYU Sports Nut Heber City, UT
    March 7, 2018 3:35 p.m.

    This was a small setback to a great couple of wins for BYU.
    Well done Cougars. We now know what it takes to make it to the finals of the WCC.
    Since the WCC is the top basketball league that any of our Utah schools is in, to be the runner up is a great accomplishment.
    Go Cougars!

  • Deanvrtc Vancouver, WA
    March 7, 2018 2:11 p.m.

    @ Whatsnu

    We will have to disagree that Chatman was not as "good" as Haws his freshman season. The stats may prove your point, but Chatman did not see the floor much at all, especially with the starters... because Rose had bet the proverbial farm on the LP3 trio. I watched Jordan play here in high school. Family friends. Jordan is lighting it up again ....now at Boston College.
    Watching that first hand, makes me wonder how many others are the same? Why do players not develop at BYU under coach Rose and flourish when they leave?
    Maybe personalities don't mesh...I really don't know all the reasons, but have watched it happen with others...not just Jordan. Coaches have to make tough choices, and I can certainly grant that they dont always make the right decisions...but that's what they are paid to do. Identify and develop talent. When they miss...BYU looses.

  • Elkman Santa Rosa, CA
    March 7, 2018 12:30 p.m.

    Good summary. I didn't hold out much hope for them to beat St. Mary's, but they did and showed us what they are capable of becoming. They lost to the NCAA tournament runner up from last year that has hit their stride. No shame in growing from a loss, but they have to show us next year they did grow.

    As for the NIT, while they should be considered a lower seed. They will be a 3-4, because full arenas and money are the name of the NIT. The Marriott Center holds a large crowd and it will sell tickets. I predict a 4 seed and a home game in the NIT.

  • ConradGurch Salt Lake City, Utah
    March 7, 2018 12:27 p.m.

    BYU should drop down to Division II. This would enable them to be a big duck in a little pond.

  • Whatsnu Sandy, UT
    March 7, 2018 11:45 a.m.

    Deanvrtc

    "Rose is at his ceiling. He rarely reaches the top 20, and proven that year after year after year. He runs a decent program, he always plays his few favorites, even when there could be better (think Haws vs Chatman),"

    Would you PLEASE get over your Chatman fetish.

    Chatman WAS NOT better than Haws his Freshman season.

    Short-sighted fans who want to run Rose out of town are just as clueless as those who wanted to run Mendenhall out of town.

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    March 7, 2018 11:41 a.m.

    @mtnfire

    "Watching Gonzaga dismantle the Cougars is like helping an old friend rebuild a Volkswagen motor... pretty straightforward and not too difficult to do."

    ****

    BYU actually over achieved in the tournament and in fact for the entire year they accomplished more than I figured they would. Before the WCC Tourney they beat Utah State in Logan (a the utes have refused to go), they jumped all over UVU on their home floor (again, a place where utah is afraid to go), and of course they embarrassed the pac12's 3rd place team by double digits.

    BYU was the WCC's 3rd place team and they made it to the finals by beating a good San Diego team, & upending the 2nd place team in the WCC who was ranked 20th in the country and will probably be an "at large team", and then losing by 20 to 6th ranked Gonzaga (a classy team with a future HOF coach).

    If there is any comfort in this shellacking it is that BYU was a lower ranked team in the league and they were suppose to lose... compare this to the 23 to 30 point smack down that the pac12's 2nd place utes took just 2 years ago in the second round of the NCAA Tourney... Now that was real embarrassment to both the pac12 and the state of Utah.

  • Whatsnu Sandy, UT
    March 7, 2018 11:33 a.m.

    Beating Saint Mary's and Gonzaga on back-to-back nights was always a pipe dream for such a young team.

    The good news is this entire team, plus a few that watched from the sidelines, will be back next season, a year older, and much more experienced.

  • Deanvrtc Vancouver, WA
    March 7, 2018 11:09 a.m.

    I was unable to see the game but hardly surprised with the outcome. Had the Cougars played with the intensity they showed against St Mary's.... is would likely have been closer in score. Rose is at his ceiling. He rarely reaches the top 20, and proven that year after year after year. He runs a decent program, he always plays his few favorites, even when there could be better (think Haws vs Chatman), but the results are always a NIT bound team. BYU basketball can do better if Holmoe had the brass. Holmoe is afraid to rock the boat especially with the current football mess. So, I believe we are stuck with mediocrity. Their really are 5-7 good mormon basketball players who would come to BYU if they had a better program. This is not football, where you need bigger numbers. We are talking 5-8 good kids. That is doable... honor code included, with the right coach/program.

  • worf McAllen, TX
    March 7, 2018 10:04 a.m.

    Shame!

    Both BYU and Utah are better teams than many entering the tournament.

  • Johnny Triumph Salt Lake City, UT
    March 7, 2018 9:54 a.m.

    Wow, I didn't see any of the game but wow! I expected a loss but not by 20...

  • Vegas POV Las Vegas, NV
    March 7, 2018 9:05 a.m.

    I do believe that BYU was complicit in that dream being crushed.

  • UteMiguel Go Utes, CA
    March 7, 2018 8:58 a.m.

    The bright side for BYU is they won’t have to face Gonzaga next year as Gonzaga will be in the MWC

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    March 7, 2018 8:16 a.m.

    taylormade1 - Springville, UT
    March 6, 2018 10:37 a.m.
    “azuter,
    I had no idea that you were on the selection committee ! Keep posting though, you make me laugh with your comments ... We're go'in dancing baby !!”

    taylormade1 - Springville, UT
    March 6, 2018 10:42 a.m.
    “Pack your bags azzy, we' re go'in Danc'in !!”

    You were saying?

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    March 7, 2018 7:50 a.m.

    65TossPowerTrap - Salmon, ID
    March 6, 2018 10:18 p.m.

    Gonzaga is the best team in the west that money didn't buy. Of course, the Gonzaga basketball machine was initially created by a Univ of Idaho alum - Dan Monson. Few took it to the next level.
    ------
    Spot On!

  • Pipes Salt Lake City, UT
    March 7, 2018 6:09 a.m.

    That was what you call a good old fashioned spanking! Hard to win when only 3 players show up. Childs, Bryant and Dastrup against Gonzaga. Why does Rose leave Haws on the court? His turnovers accounted for more points for Gonzaga than he scored for the Y.

  • blue & white Boise, ID
    March 6, 2018 10:52 p.m.

    Hopefully better next year. The Zags are deep and talented. It’s apparent the Y is not built to win the WCC tourney.

  • 65TossPowerTrap Salmon, ID
    March 6, 2018 10:18 p.m.

    Gonzaga is the best team in the west that money didn't buy. Of course, the Gonzaga basketball machine was initially created by a Univ of Idaho alum - Dan Monson. Few took it to the next level.

  • 65TossPowerTrap Salmon, ID
    March 6, 2018 9:53 p.m.

    Pretty tough to win when 3/5 of your starting lineup combines for a whopping 6 points. Dastrup outscored all three of them combined (11 points to 6.) Best of luck to the 'Zags - I hope they go deep in the tournament. Hopefully Rose can come up with three players who can at least be the equal of Bryant and Childs (hint - look at the end of the bench for a couple of guys.)

  • fireonthemtn Reno, NV
    March 6, 2018 9:49 p.m.

    Watching Gonzaga dismantle the Cougars is like helping an old friend rebuild a Volkswagen motor... pretty straightforward and not too difficult to do.