Harmon's Halftime: An old tactic of football redemption is being used by BYU's new offensive coordinator Jeff Grimes

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  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    March 7, 2018 5:28 p.m.

    “yet he turned an abysmal program”

    Our program was hardly “abysmal” under Coach RM, who admirably laid the foundation for where we’re @ today!

    You’re thinking of where we were @ back in the vast majority of the ‘80s.

    GO UTES!

  • GilmerTexasCougar Gilmer, TX
    March 7, 2018 2:12 p.m.

    I don't know if Urban's Ohio State team could beat Urban's Utah team or not. But his undefeated Utah team was very, very good.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    March 7, 2018 1:22 p.m.

    CG:

    "First, only a delusional Utah fan would try to claim that Whit is a coaching 'great'"

    Only a delusional indy-WACer would try to claim that Whittingham wasn't an "AFCA Coach of the Year" and "Paul 'Bear' Bryant" award winner. Because he DID win those awards. And those awards are never awarded to coaches who aren't "great".

    "Second, Utah is MUCH closer to BYU in talent, than they are to USC, UCLA, Stanford, Oregon, and Washington"

    What a frantic and emotional thing to say. Since leaving the MWC, Utah had posted a far superior record vs. our WACish and midmajory little brothers, than we had vs. your aforementioned Pac-12 brethren (USC, UCLA, Stan, Ore, and UWa). See for yourself...

    vs. WACistan: 6-0 (1.000)
    vs. Stanford: 2-1 (.667)
    vs. UCLA: 4-3 (.571)
    vs. USC: 2-5 (.286)
    vs. Oregon: 1-4 (.200)
    vs. Washington: 1-4 (.200)

    And even when counting "point margins", Utah's record vs. the indy-WACers was superior.

    vs. WACistan: +11.3
    vs. UCLA: +6.1
    vs. Stanford: +2.0
    vs. Oregon: -5.6
    vs. USC: -6.7
    vs. Washington: -7.0

    So essentially, in every measurable metric, Utah > indy-WAC!

    And that's Math.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    March 7, 2018 12:39 p.m.

    CG

    You couldnt be more wrong

    Did you know Utah's most recent recruiting class is actually closer in average star to Alabama, Ohio State, Clemson, and USC than byu's class is to Utah.

    Let that sink in.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    March 7, 2018 12:40 p.m.

    robo

    Your example with Urban is great.

    Tell us, do you think an Urban Ohio State team would beat an Urban Utah team? By how much? And what would that be attributable to?

    TALENT

  • CG Provo, UT
    March 7, 2018 12:32 p.m.

    Chris B

    “As coaching greats Nick Saban and Kyle Whittingham point out year after year after year: Its all about the players”

    First, only a delusional Utah fan would try to claim that Whit is a coaching “great”

    Second, Utah is MUCH closer to BYU in talent, than they are to USC, UCLA, Stanford, Oregon, and Washington

    Which has been proven over and over again by Utah’s slim victory margins over BYU - Utah is only slightly better than BYU.

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    March 7, 2018 12:10 p.m.

    "Clean Slate" is the kind of simple manta that can catapult a team to the a national championship in a very short period of time.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    March 7, 2018 11:13 a.m.

    As coaching greats Nick Saban and Kyle Whittingham point out year after year after year: Its all about the players, and specifically the players talent(or in byu's case the lack thereof)

    Those two, both great coaches know who know their value, still prioritize talent over coaching.

    Byu's recruiting is literally worse than every single P5 team, even ranked below on average star than terrible programs like Vanderbilt, Rutgers, and Oregon State.

    Yes, Rutgers gets more talented players than byu. Let that sink in.

    byu coaches, admin, and fans can hype themselves up all they want about new attitudes and new commitment.

    But at the end of the day byu will struggle to even be ranked among the best mid majors, let alone even close to a P5 equivalent.

    Going to be another long season for byu. And I'll be loving it yet again.

  • 1984 for life Salt Lake City, UT
    March 7, 2018 10:34 a.m.

    A clean slate with the same (or lesser) talent. Not looking too good in Cougartown.