Is Utah's Larry Krystkowiak living up to his salary?

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  • TaxpayerinUtah Utah, UT
    March 11, 2018 6:31 p.m.

    Great article Brad as usual! Larry K does not deserve the salary he gets. He is a big complainer when he loses. "Players should not be fouled out after 5 fouls" etc... I think that Larry K is paid because Jon Huntsman Sr liked him. Unfortunately the state of Utah is now on the hook for his $15 million plus. He needs to step up and do his job and not complain all of the time. He should only be earning less that $200,000, not $8Million plus. He is a highly paid complainer.

  • eagle Provo, UT
    March 11, 2018 1:14 p.m.

    Maybe this article should have came out after the debacle and disappointment of a quarterfinal loss to Oregon. Perhaps some of the favorable opinions might have changed. Oh well...

  • Laxman taylorsville, UT
    March 9, 2018 9:21 p.m.

    Apparently we can afford it. Chew on that byu-p.

  • BleedCougarBlue Enid, OK
    March 8, 2018 8:03 a.m.

    $3.39M a year?

    Yep, you guys are paying him too much. Waaaay too much.

  • RockOn1224 Spanish Fork, UT
    March 6, 2018 3:28 p.m.

    Coach K is the living embodiment of the adage, "You don't get what you deserve, you get what you negotiate!" More power to him. He negotiated (or approved negotiations) but the powers that be agreed to pay him. Good for him. Welcome to America.

    Yes, I'm a true-blue Cougar, but Coach K has been great for the rivalry. He paid us $80k, so he's not all bad. Seriously, the guy has worked hard to rebuild the Ute program. They're lucky to have him. Wish him the best except when his Utes play BYU.

  • QDiesel SLC, UT
    March 5, 2018 11:53 p.m.

    Both the coaches at Utah are overpaid. Whittingham has really only had one really good season which was 2008 when they went to the Sugar Bowl. He has really struggled in the Pac 12 and his teams seem to choke to bad teams late in the season which ends up leading them to lose the division and not advance to the Pac 12 championship game. I don't think the Utes division is really that difficult that Whitt couldn't have won a division title by now. None of those schools outside of USC have done anything nationally and USC was down for a while whey they we're on probation. Larry's contract is just absurd. He is just a good coach, nothing more than that and he should in no way be paid that much to coach a average Utah basketball team. Since the Majerus days, the Utes have only had 2 seasons worth caring about. 2004 with Andrew Bogut and the one good season Larry had when Utah went to the sweet 16.d They have irrelevant in basketball since the glory days of Van Horn, Andre Miller, Michael Doleac and those great late 90's Ute teams.

  • top of the world ,
    March 5, 2018 6:19 p.m.

    JSKM1232...ha, you kidding, brother? Calling the Y a lowly mid-major? Tend to base a schools status on recent history only? And people say Y supporters are egotistical.

    As to whether or not this guy is worth the bucks, there is no way to accurately answer that. The other coaches who are drawing the big bucks would have to go through the same seasons this guy has, deal with every one of the same problems, have the exact same talent, etc. In other words, everything would have to be spot-on the same in all respects. Then we would have to measure how they each fared each year. So, also in other words, no way to carry that fantasy to an accurate conclusion.

    We could also put this guy in the shoes of Coach K at Duke and see how he did, given all the same pieces for the past four years. Who knows, perhaps he would exceed what the Legend accomplished? I think not, but really, who knows?

    And I will conclude my little foray into the unknown by stating that none of the coaches who earn more than a million a year are worth what they are getting. The high salaries for coaches in all sports are too high.

  • front ranger Loveland, CO
    March 5, 2018 3:39 p.m.

    - Leads the NCAA in bogus "safety" excuses used for canceling century old rivalry games

    - Leads the NCAA in not recognizing the voice of his boss while engaged in a profanity-laced tirade in the face of a conference's head of officials

    - Leads the NCAA in clip board breaking temper tantrums

    Definitely NOT even close to being one of the Top 10 coaches, ergo, grossly over paid.

  • USAlover Salt Lake City, UT
    March 5, 2018 11:16 a.m.

    How does Roy Williams make less many than Coach K?

  • Sanefan Wellsville, UT
    March 5, 2018 10:53 a.m.

    His salary is 8TH in the nation. That is unbelievable and a travesty to boot. And it doesn't matter how well he does in the PAC 12, as it is the worst of the P5 conferences and about equal to at least 2 of the mid-majors. Unless he's taking his team to the Sweet Sixteen every year, he is way over paid.

  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    March 5, 2018 10:38 a.m.

    "leads the NCAA in cancelled games!"

    mokohat:

    No, that would be a tie with Notre Dame football.

    But cheer up! BYU-P actually LEADS college sports in games cancelled by other schools.

  • JSKM1232 Sandy, UT
    March 5, 2018 9:52 a.m.

    @ERB - Eagle Mountain, UT

    "............ He's barely in the middle of a mediocre PAC12, and loses to too many average teams. May squeak into the NCAA with a couple wins in the tournament. If he's paid like a top 10 coach, shouldn't the Utes at least be ranked most if not all of the time. Even when he has NBA talent on the team, they don't do as well as they should. Utah really is a great coaching spot. The coach isn't proving his humongous salary is earned. Bring in someone who will challenge for even conference championships. Then they may be worth that salary.
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    "Barely in the middle of a mediocre PAC12 . . . . finishing #3. I guess I need to brush up on my math skills.

  • JSKM1232 Sandy, UT
    March 5, 2018 9:45 a.m.

    @mohokat - Ogden, UT

    "He leads the NCAA in cancelled games!"
    - - - -
    It was against a lowly mid-major and it was only one (1) game for heavens sakes.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    March 5, 2018 8:50 a.m.

    @Zyme - Logan, UT

    absolutely no way to justify university sports salaries... should we ask why teachers are treated as second class citizens but are complacent about these obscene salaries?????????????????????

    ---------------

    I can give you "millions" of justifications:

    Utah Football Annual Revenues: $52.6M
    Utah Basketball Annual Revenue: $8.9M
    Annual benefits to the local economy: Over $6M

    The coaches are paid appropriately.

  • Zyme Logan, UT
    March 5, 2018 8:23 a.m.

    NO, it's SICK that administrators throw out taxpayer money when it's simply not necessary... don't blame the coaches... question the administrators... it's a sick situation across the country... apparently nobody in authority really cares... absolutely no way to justify university sports salaries... should we ask why teachers are treated as second class citizens but are complacent about these obscene salaries?????????????????????

  • mohokat Ogden, UT
    March 5, 2018 7:56 a.m.

    He leads the NCAA in cancelled games!

  • wer South Jordan, UT
    March 4, 2018 11:23 p.m.

    These comments are interesting, and in a couple of cases show a pretty good understanding of the issues. Is anyone who coaches college sports deserving of what he get? Absolutely not. A high salary and benefits is one thing, but the amounts that someone in the bowels of the U decided to give him is unconscionable.

    Now, the other matter which is really just as important: there are those comments state or imply that sports success has led to improvements in facilities, academic/scholarship advantages, etc.
    Since 75% of all universities with a major commitment to sports actually operate over budget, I would like to see proof that the U doesn't operate in the red, and, more importantly, let's see some real proof that having more sports toys really helps the university's mission, which if we all recall is academics and scholarship. Let's look at the U's budget and see where all their sports money goes. If it's anything like other major schools, most of it goes to athletics. What we will likely find is that all the talk about helping the school's mission is just that, talk.

    So the U, not unlike the Oklahomas, Carolinas, Michigans, USC, etc., can buy a ton of jocks, and what else?

  • worf McAllen, TX
    March 4, 2018 7:01 p.m.

    Money doesn't fix everything. All the money in the world won't make you live forever or guarantee you a national championship.

    Krystkowiak actually improved what the Utes were but what it comes down to---you have an equal amount of losers as you do winners.

  • Vegas POV Las Vegas, NV
    March 4, 2018 6:16 p.m.

    That question will be answered by Chris Hill at the end of every season. My two bits are worth wasting the time to even think about this.

  • IQ92 hi, UT
    March 4, 2018 6:15 p.m.

    Larry is not too blame; he took what they gave.

    The people who doled out the tax money are to blame.

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    March 4, 2018 6:04 p.m.

    The man's contempt for BYU makes him worth every dime.

  • Diligent Dave Logan, UT
    March 4, 2018 5:40 p.m.

    Among those saying "No", he's not earning his salary, I sense not disappointment, as much as I sense a lot of covetousness. What Krystkowiak makes is indeed a lot of money. I don't want to take the money he's receiving—though I'd like to earn closer to what he makes. But I don't begrudge Coach Krystkowiak's pay.

    Let's ask another question. (While Coach K is a government employee, his pay is made available to anyone who wants to look it up). But Brad Rock is the employee of a company owned by a church. Now, 'Rock', how much are you compensated? (Sure, your pay isn't listed on a website like Coach K's is, so you can, and will probably hide what it is).

    But I would say, if you're man enough to ask if Coach K is worthy of his pay, tell us what you are paid, and let us vote on that about the job you do! (Does that sound unfair at all)? Remember, the DNews, though a Salt Lake paper, also is owned by the same entity that owns BYU. There often seems to be much more 'hoorah!' in these sports pages for BYU than for Utah. A mere coincident? I wot not!

    Pay = Manhood. Tell us Rock your pay, and let us even vote to say whether Coach K or Rock are more deserving of what they get!

  • Hillbilly Willie Brentwood, TN
    March 4, 2018 5:09 p.m.

    Insane amount of money. But if the U is crazy enough to pay it, good for Coach K.
    Athletes and coaches in all sports are over paid. Typically the consumer is the one who ultimately foots the bill. Look at the price of an NFL ticket, or a hot dog at a MLB game or parking at a stadium. When the fans stop attending thats how all these salaries will get under control. When the networks who pay obscene amounts of money in rights fees continue to lose ratings and ad revenue, rights fees will drop and salaries will drop. I have a feeling its already started or is just around the corner. So good for Coach K, get it while you can.

  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    March 4, 2018 5:09 p.m.

    Gee, I’m shocked, SHOCKED, that the BYU-P house organ poses the question and that coog (including faux Ute) fans uniformly answer it the same way!!

    In other news, it snows in March.

  • forevercougar Orem, UT
    March 4, 2018 5:06 p.m.

    The $3.37 million is only part of his payout. The new federal income tax law, taking effect in 2018, now penalizes universities who pay their coaches over $1 million per year. So you can now add a federal mandated excise tax to Coach K's and Coach W's salary. The bean counters should take note. Are our state taxes about to take a jump for better sports programs?

  • gchris rock springs, wy
    March 4, 2018 4:11 p.m.

    @I Still Can't Say It

    "Coach K competes in real college basketball and needs to get paid as such."

    You are right. Coach K deserves every penny he makes. After all, he has led Duke to numerous Final Fours and National Championships. Coach Krystkowiak, not so much.

  • kazie Heber City, UT
    March 4, 2018 4:06 p.m.

    @Meckofahess - Rest easy. Not one penny, let alone one dollar, of your taxes are going toward their salaries.

  • ERB Eagle Mountain, UT
    March 4, 2018 3:58 p.m.

    No. He's being paid like he's elite coach. He's barely in the middle of a mediocre PAC12, and loses to too many average teams. May squeak into the NCAA with a couple wins in the tournament. If he's paid like a top 10 coach, shouldn't the Utes at least be ranked most if not all of the time. Even when he has NBA talent on the team, they don't do as well as they should. Utah really is a great coaching spot. The coach isn't proving his humongous salary is earned. Bring in someone who will challenge for even conference championships. Then they may be worth that salary.

  • JSKM1232 Sandy, UT
    March 4, 2018 3:45 p.m.

    @Meckofahess - Salt Lake City, UT

    "NO he isn't living up to his salary and neither is Kyle Whitingham!. In both cases their salaries are immoral, obscene and unjustifiable period.

    If even one dollar of my taxes are going toward their salaries it is a travesty and theft in my opinion because I totally do not support those salaries in any way-shape-or-form. I don't care if they both win the national championships it is wrong.
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    But if they were both coaching at BYU I'm guessing you would be okay with that.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    March 4, 2018 3:45 p.m.

    Worth every penny

  • water rocket Magna, UT
    March 4, 2018 3:10 p.m.

    LK magnified an unfortunate incident on the court, during the heat of a hard game, into a major issue between two very fine institutions, that almost destroyed well over a hundred years of tradition. Then he has a hard time keeping players for some reason (is he a task master who focuses only on basketball, and not scholastics?). Now we have an FBI investigation into corruption for "illegal" payments to Kuzma while he was at Utah. In addition, he is afraid to play the other in-state schools (and for good reason!). Some schools have been willing to overlook bad behavior, as long as they have a winning team. LK is NOT good for Utah, but we are stuck with him, thanks to "Mr. Hill" up on the hill.

  • kazie Heber City, UT
    March 4, 2018 2:45 p.m.

    Yes, he definitely is. Comments that the U "should" pay someone less and get the same results are ludicrous. Of course an employer "should" pay someone less if they can get the same results, but there is absolutely no indication this is possible.

    Anyone who actually follows college basketball knows Larry Krystkowiak is considered a top coach who runs a clean program. He managed to rebuild a decimated program into one that is beginning to succeed. He is a man of high standards and commitment. He commands respect on and off the court. And while Rick Majerus was indeed a basketball genius, as a human being and an example to youth he failed miserably. The University of Utah is fortunate to have Krystokowiak and I, for one, hope he remains our coach for many years.

  • cjd1 Draper, UT
    March 4, 2018 2:16 p.m.

    I would like to thank BYU fans living in Utah that contribute to Coach K's salary. Go Utes!

  • KimmyP Grantsville, UT
    March 4, 2018 1:06 p.m.

    Coach Whit and Coach K both "live up to" their salaries for no other reason than it causes so much angst in happy valley. 💰

  • Who am I sir? Cottonwood Heights, UT
    March 4, 2018 1:00 p.m.

    I agree with the general concept that all salaries in sports are obscene! Both players and coaches. In professional sports and amateur sports where individuals are paid. That said can there be any doubt the salaries of the Utah coaches has been a great investment? Look at the facilities, the revenue, the acclaim the University of Utah has gained from the membership in the PAC-12! This in addition to the research money, the academic prestige, etc.

    A comment made last December sums it up, “As a person who works for the University, in a department that touches a lot of businesses and other schools, let me tell you that the academic/scholastic benefits of the PAC12 are massive. More than I ever could have imagined.
    We could lose every football and basketball game by 40 and I’d still thank God every day that we’re in the PAC12.”

  • Doctormtv Salt Lake City, UT
    March 4, 2018 11:23 a.m.

    No, he shouldn’t be getting paid that much. But neither should professional athletes, CEOs, actors/actresses, or those in the music industry. No one needs that kind of money. But given that it is what it is, then I feel he is doing a fine job. If Collette can’t play at close to 100% for the PAC 12 Tourney, then I’m worried that Utah will lose its first game and will be NIT bound. But very few of this year’s major contributors even started at Utah. He’s done well with what he’s been given talent-wise. With Barefield returning along with the development of Seeley and Tillman, plus a very good recruiting class coming in, I predict a Sweet 16 team in the next 2 or 3 years.

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    March 4, 2018 11:02 a.m.

    Uhhhh...No he is not!

  • eagle Provo, UT
    March 4, 2018 10:10 a.m.

    I guess at one level if somebody is dumb enough to pay him that salary he's not overpaid, he's just getting market value.

    However, if you compare him to the successes brought by Rick Majerus or even Jerry Pym, the answer to that question should be obvious.

  • I Still Can't Say It Holladay, UT
    March 4, 2018 10:03 a.m.

    Pay the man. Coach K has to compete with the big boys and doesn't have the luxury of competing against schools that play in high school gyms.

    The MWC is a mid major league. The WCC isn't even anywhere near the "mid major" level.

    Coach K competes in real college basketball and needs to get paid as such.

  • Semper Fidelis Layton, UT
    March 4, 2018 9:53 a.m.

    re: Brave Sir Robin. but couldn't he do that for free?

    You're missing the point. The point is that since he is the 8th highest paid coach in the country, shouldn't he perform to that level.
    I think you could get the same level of performance at a lower price. Gonzaga and other programs do that. Why pay so much more than other schools without seeing a benefit in performance?
    The only argument I see for paying in the top-10 of pay, is if you want to lure a coach like Mark Few to the U with a very high salary, or even try to lure a coach from another PAC-12 school. But if you're going to contract out through 2023, I think you could have done it at a lower salary for an equivalent-level coach.

    Let's see what happens this year, but I think the Utes should dial back the money at first opportunity and save a little money while still getting the same results.

  • Henry Drummond San Jose, CA
    March 4, 2018 9:33 a.m.

    Larry would probably be hired away by another P5 school if he wasn’t paid such a big salary. Meanwhile he’s having to turn a program around after years of neglect. I think Chris Hill addressed this some time ago.

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    March 4, 2018 9:23 a.m.

    Is LK living up to his salary? Yes. 1000 times yes. If for no other reason than because BYU-P fans hate him so much. I couldn't care less if he never wins another game - I just love watching BYU-P fans get their shorts in a bunch over him.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    March 4, 2018 7:47 a.m.

    I don't have any problem with how much Utah is paying Krystkowiak. For starters, he's been a great coach. That's evident by the way he's shown to have turned our program around. But on top of that, even if he ISN'T living up to his salary, the fact that he makes that much money sets a precedent to OTHER top quality coaches across the country that we're willing to pay top dollar for an elite coach. If Mark Few really IS frustrated with the WCC, at least he'll know that if Utah came calling, he'll (1) pull down a higher salary than Gonzaga is giving him, and (2) find a consistent multi-bid league that values Basketball, and (3) find a school that supports their program as well. And that's a pretty attractive incentive. If we were paying Krystkowiak LESS than Few, or even the same amount, why would he leave Spokane? If we were paying Krystkowiak less than Few, but offered Few more money, he might see that as window dressing for a school that doesn't provide coaches the tools they need to succeed. But the way things are now, EVERYBODY can see that we DO!

    Go Utes!

  • JKR Holladay, UT
    March 4, 2018 6:48 a.m.

    It is harsh to talk about a man's salary in the newspaper. That said, it is ridiculous that the sports coaches to earn more than the president of the university. Something is wrong with this system. Doug Robinson likes to point out that the NCAA is really a business that makes a profit. Maybe he is correct and university administrations should get out of the sports business and concentrate on academics.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    March 4, 2018 6:40 a.m.

    He is overpaid.

    He did get fans like Chris B to jump on the bandwagon by rebuilding to a top 4 PAC-12 program.

    But to justify his high pay, he'll need a Sweet 16 run next year.

    Kyle Whittingham is not over paid when you consider an average cosch like Bronco Mendenhall has a higher salary.

    @Meckofahess

    Are you aware of the economic impact of football and basketball for the state? Both coaches are "job creators".

  • Strider303 American Fork, UT
    March 4, 2018 6:17 a.m.

    I'm with Meckofahess on this one.

    That's a lot of money for an extra curricular event at a "temple of learning".

    I know most of the salary comes from the "side-show" events, but is shows what a mess intercollegiate athletics has become.

  • Oh Really? Salt Lake City, UT
    March 4, 2018 1:17 a.m.

    “He has taken his team from 11th in the conference during his first season to recent finishes of second, second, fourth, and now tied for third. So his program is in the top one-third or one-fourth of the conference.”

    Those are great finishes given that his team appears to have slightly lower payroll than some other top PAC schools.

  • LCBSoCal Northridge, CA
    March 4, 2018 1:10 a.m.

    Picked to finish 7th in the PAC-12, finishes 3rd, with no real stars on the team; has to recruit to Utah against programs recruiting to LA., the Bay Area, Tempe, Seattle. He manages to recruit three straight NBA players to Utah by finding under-the-radar talent. He does all this while not paying for players and running a clean program. I think the investment in Larry will pay off. And no, he’s not getting tax dollars.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    March 4, 2018 12:11 a.m.

    Valid article

    If we are paying top notch salary we should be a top notch program

    And we aren’t. Even a big dance ticket this year doesn’t change that.

    We deserve elite 8 quadlity teams with the money we are paying

  • TroyTown Anaheim, CA
    March 3, 2018 10:10 p.m.

    No!

  • Meckofahess Salt Lake City, UT
    March 3, 2018 9:46 p.m.

    NO he isn't living up to his salary and neither is Kyle Whitingham!. In both cases their salaries are immoral, obscene and unjustifiable period.

    If even one dollar of my taxes are going toward their salaries it is a travesty and theft in my opinion because I totally do not support those salaries in any way-shape-or-form. I don't care if they both win the national championships it is wrong.