Great article Brad as usual! Larry K does not deserve the salary he gets. He
is a big complainer when he loses. "Players should not be fouled out after
5 fouls" etc... I think that Larry K is paid because Jon Huntsman Sr liked
him. Unfortunately the state of Utah is now on the hook for his $15 million
plus. He needs to step up and do his job and not complain all of the time. He
should only be earning less that $200,000, not $8Million plus. He is a highly
Maybe this article should have came out after the debacle and disappointment of
a quarterfinal loss to Oregon. Perhaps some of the favorable opinions might have
changed. Oh well...
Apparently we can afford it. Chew on that byu-p.
$3.39M a year?Yep, you guys are paying him too much. Waaaay too
Coach K is the living embodiment of the adage, "You don't get what you
deserve, you get what you negotiate!" More power to him. He negotiated (or
approved negotiations) but the powers that be agreed to pay him. Good for him.
Welcome to America.Yes, I'm a true-blue Cougar, but Coach K has
been great for the rivalry. He paid us $80k, so he's not all bad.
Seriously, the guy has worked hard to rebuild the Ute program. They're
lucky to have him. Wish him the best except when his Utes play BYU.
Both the coaches at Utah are overpaid. Whittingham has really only had one
really good season which was 2008 when they went to the Sugar Bowl. He has
really struggled in the Pac 12 and his teams seem to choke to bad teams late in
the season which ends up leading them to lose the division and not advance to
the Pac 12 championship game. I don't think the Utes division is really
that difficult that Whitt couldn't have won a division title by now. None
of those schools outside of USC have done anything nationally and USC was down
for a while whey they we're on probation. Larry's contract is just
absurd. He is just a good coach, nothing more than that and he should in no way
be paid that much to coach a average Utah basketball team. Since the Majerus
days, the Utes have only had 2 seasons worth caring about. 2004 with Andrew
Bogut and the one good season Larry had when Utah went to the sweet 16.d They
have irrelevant in basketball since the glory days of Van Horn, Andre Miller,
Michael Doleac and those great late 90's Ute teams.
JSKM1232...ha, you kidding, brother? Calling the Y a lowly mid-major? Tend to
base a schools status on recent history only? And people say Y supporters are
egotistical. As to whether or not this guy is worth the bucks,
there is no way to accurately answer that. The other coaches who are drawing
the big bucks would have to go through the same seasons this guy has, deal with
every one of the same problems, have the exact same talent, etc. In other
words, everything would have to be spot-on the same in all respects. Then we
would have to measure how they each fared each year. So, also in other words,
no way to carry that fantasy to an accurate conclusion.We could also
put this guy in the shoes of Coach K at Duke and see how he did, given all the
same pieces for the past four years. Who knows, perhaps he would exceed what
the Legend accomplished? I think not, but really, who knows?And I
will conclude my little foray into the unknown by stating that none of the
coaches who earn more than a million a year are worth what they are getting.
The high salaries for coaches in all sports are too high.
- Leads the NCAA in bogus "safety" excuses used for canceling century
old rivalry games- Leads the NCAA in not recognizing the voice of
his boss while engaged in a profanity-laced tirade in the face of a
conference's head of officials- Leads the NCAA in clip board
breaking temper tantrumsDefinitely NOT even close to being one of
the Top 10 coaches, ergo, grossly over paid.
How does Roy Williams make less many than Coach K?
His salary is 8TH in the nation. That is unbelievable and a travesty to boot.
And it doesn't matter how well he does in the PAC 12, as it is the worst of
the P5 conferences and about equal to at least 2 of the mid-majors. Unless
he's taking his team to the Sweet Sixteen every year, he is way over paid.
"leads the NCAA in cancelled games!"mokohat:No,
that would be a tie with Notre Dame football. But cheer up! BYU-P
actually LEADS college sports in games cancelled by other schools.
@ERB - Eagle Mountain, UT"............ He's barely in the
middle of a mediocre PAC12, and loses to too many average teams. May squeak into
the NCAA with a couple wins in the tournament. If he's paid like a top 10
coach, shouldn't the Utes at least be ranked most if not all of the time.
Even when he has NBA talent on the team, they don't do as well as they
should. Utah really is a great coaching spot. The coach isn't proving his
humongous salary is earned. Bring in someone who will challenge for even
conference championships. Then they may be worth that salary.- - - -"Barely in the middle of a mediocre PAC12 . . . . finishing #3. I guess I
need to brush up on my math skills.
@mohokat - Ogden, UT"He leads the NCAA in cancelled
games!"- - - - It was against a lowly mid-major and it was only
one (1) game for heavens sakes.
@Zyme - Logan, UTabsolutely no way to justify university sports
salaries... should we ask why teachers are treated as second class citizens but
are complacent about these obscene salaries?????????????????????---------------I can give you "millions" of
justifications:Utah Football Annual Revenues: $52.6MUtah
Basketball Annual Revenue: $8.9MAnnual benefits to the local economy:
Over $6MThe coaches are paid appropriately.
NO, it's SICK that administrators throw out taxpayer money when it's
simply not necessary... don't blame the coaches... question the
administrators... it's a sick situation across the country... apparently
nobody in authority really cares... absolutely no way to justify university
sports salaries... should we ask why teachers are treated as second class
citizens but are complacent about these obscene salaries?????????????????????
He leads the NCAA in cancelled games!
These comments are interesting, and in a couple of cases show a pretty good
understanding of the issues. Is anyone who coaches college sports deserving of
what he get? Absolutely not. A high salary and benefits is one thing, but the
amounts that someone in the bowels of the U decided to give him is
unconscionable. Now, the other matter which is really just as
important: there are those comments state or imply that sports success has led
to improvements in facilities, academic/scholarship advantages, etc. Since
75% of all universities with a major commitment to sports actually operate over
budget, I would like to see proof that the U doesn't operate in the red,
and, more importantly, let's see some real proof that having more sports
toys really helps the university's mission, which if we all recall is
academics and scholarship. Let's look at the U's budget and see where
all their sports money goes. If it's anything like other major schools,
most of it goes to athletics. What we will likely find is that all the talk
about helping the school's mission is just that, talk.So the U,
not unlike the Oklahomas, Carolinas, Michigans, USC, etc., can buy a ton of
jocks, and what else?
Money doesn't fix everything. All the money in the world won't make
you live forever or guarantee you a national championship.Krystkowiak actually improved what the Utes were but what it comes down
to---you have an equal amount of losers as you do winners.
That question will be answered by Chris Hill at the end of every season. My two
bits are worth wasting the time to even think about this.
Larry is not too blame; he took what they gave.The people who doled
out the tax money are to blame.
The man's contempt for BYU makes him worth every dime.
Among those saying "No", he's not earning his salary, I sense not
disappointment, as much as I sense a lot of covetousness. What Krystkowiak makes
is indeed a lot of money. I don't want to take the money he's
receiving—though I'd like to earn closer to what he makes. But I
don't begrudge Coach Krystkowiak's pay.Let's ask
another question. (While Coach K is a government employee, his pay is made
available to anyone who wants to look it up). But Brad Rock is the employee of a
company owned by a church. Now, 'Rock', how much are you compensated?
(Sure, your pay isn't listed on a website like Coach K's is, so you
can, and will probably hide what it is).But I would say, if
you're man enough to ask if Coach K is worthy of his pay, tell us what you
are paid, and let us vote on that about the job you do! (Does that sound unfair
at all)? Remember, the DNews, though a Salt Lake paper, also is owned by the
same entity that owns BYU. There often seems to be much more 'hoorah!'
in these sports pages for BYU than for Utah. A mere coincident? I wot not!Pay = Manhood. Tell us Rock your pay, and let us even vote to say
whether Coach K or Rock are more deserving of what they get!
Insane amount of money. But if the U is crazy enough to pay it, good for Coach
K.Athletes and coaches in all sports are over paid. Typically the consumer
is the one who ultimately foots the bill. Look at the price of an NFL ticket, or
a hot dog at a MLB game or parking at a stadium. When the fans stop attending
thats how all these salaries will get under control. When the networks who pay
obscene amounts of money in rights fees continue to lose ratings and ad revenue,
rights fees will drop and salaries will drop. I have a feeling its already
started or is just around the corner. So good for Coach K, get it while you can.
Gee, I’m shocked, SHOCKED, that the BYU-P house organ poses the question
and that coog (including faux Ute) fans uniformly answer it the same way!!In other news, it snows in March.
The $3.37 million is only part of his payout. The new federal income tax law,
taking effect in 2018, now penalizes universities who pay their coaches over $1
million per year. So you can now add a federal mandated excise tax to Coach
K's and Coach W's salary. The bean counters should take note. Are
our state taxes about to take a jump for better sports programs?
@I Still Can't Say It"Coach K competes in real college
basketball and needs to get paid as such."You are right. Coach
K deserves every penny he makes. After all, he has led Duke to numerous Final
Fours and National Championships. Coach Krystkowiak, not so much.
@Meckofahess - Rest easy. Not one penny, let alone one dollar, of your taxes are
going toward their salaries.
No. He's being paid like he's elite coach. He's barely in the
middle of a mediocre PAC12, and loses to too many average teams. May squeak
into the NCAA with a couple wins in the tournament. If he's paid like a top
10 coach, shouldn't the Utes at least be ranked most if not all of the
time. Even when he has NBA talent on the team, they don't do as well as
they should. Utah really is a great coaching spot. The coach isn't proving
his humongous salary is earned. Bring in someone who will challenge for even
conference championships. Then they may be worth that salary.
@Meckofahess - Salt Lake City, UT"NO he isn't living up to
his salary and neither is Kyle Whitingham!. In both cases their salaries are
immoral, obscene and unjustifiable period.If even one dollar of my
taxes are going toward their salaries it is a travesty and theft in my opinion
because I totally do not support those salaries in any way-shape-or-form. I
don't care if they both win the national championships it is wrong.-
- - - -But if they were both coaching at BYU I'm guessing you would
be okay with that.
Worth every penny
LK magnified an unfortunate incident on the court, during the heat of a hard
game, into a major issue between two very fine institutions, that almost
destroyed well over a hundred years of tradition. Then he has a hard time
keeping players for some reason (is he a task master who focuses only on
basketball, and not scholastics?). Now we have an FBI investigation into
corruption for "illegal" payments to Kuzma while he was at Utah. In
addition, he is afraid to play the other in-state schools (and for good
reason!). Some schools have been willing to overlook bad behavior, as long as
they have a winning team. LK is NOT good for Utah, but we are stuck with him,
thanks to "Mr. Hill" up on the hill.
Yes, he definitely is. Comments that the U "should" pay someone less and
get the same results are ludicrous. Of course an employer "should" pay
someone less if they can get the same results, but there is absolutely no
indication this is possible. Anyone who actually follows college
basketball knows Larry Krystkowiak is considered a top coach who runs a clean
program. He managed to rebuild a decimated program into one that is beginning to
succeed. He is a man of high standards and commitment. He commands respect on
and off the court. And while Rick Majerus was indeed a basketball genius, as a
human being and an example to youth he failed miserably. The University of Utah
is fortunate to have Krystokowiak and I, for one, hope he remains our coach for
I would like to thank BYU fans living in Utah that contribute to Coach K's
salary. Go Utes!
Coach Whit and Coach K both "live up to" their salaries for no other
reason than it causes so much angst in happy valley. 💰
I agree with the general concept that all salaries in sports are obscene! Both
players and coaches. In professional sports and amateur sports where
individuals are paid. That said can there be any doubt the salaries of the Utah
coaches has been a great investment? Look at the facilities, the revenue, the
acclaim the University of Utah has gained from the membership in the PAC-12!
This in addition to the research money, the academic prestige, etc. A comment made last December sums it up, “As a person who works for the
University, in a department that touches a lot of businesses and other schools,
let me tell you that the academic/scholastic benefits of the PAC12 are massive.
More than I ever could have imagined.We could lose every football and
basketball game by 40 and I’d still thank God every day that we’re
in the PAC12.”
No, he shouldn’t be getting paid that much. But neither should
professional athletes, CEOs, actors/actresses, or those in the music industry.
No one needs that kind of money. But given that it is what it is, then I feel he
is doing a fine job. If Collette can’t play at close to 100% for the PAC
12 Tourney, then I’m worried that Utah will lose its first game and will
be NIT bound. But very few of this year’s major contributors even started
at Utah. He’s done well with what he’s been given talent-wise. With
Barefield returning along with the development of Seeley and Tillman, plus a
very good recruiting class coming in, I predict a Sweet 16 team in the next 2 or
Uhhhh...No he is not!
I guess at one level if somebody is dumb enough to pay him that salary he's
not overpaid, he's just getting market value.However, if you
compare him to the successes brought by Rick Majerus or even Jerry Pym, the
answer to that question should be obvious.
Pay the man. Coach K has to compete with the big boys and doesn't have the
luxury of competing against schools that play in high school gyms.The MWC is a mid major league. The WCC isn't even anywhere near the
"mid major" level.Coach K competes in real college
basketball and needs to get paid as such.
re: Brave Sir Robin. but couldn't he do that for free?You're missing the point. The point is that since he is the 8th highest
paid coach in the country, shouldn't he perform to that level. I
think you could get the same level of performance at a lower price. Gonzaga and
other programs do that. Why pay so much more than other schools without seeing a
benefit in performance? The only argument I see for paying in the top-10
of pay, is if you want to lure a coach like Mark Few to the U with a very high
salary, or even try to lure a coach from another PAC-12 school. But if
you're going to contract out through 2023, I think you could have done it
at a lower salary for an equivalent-level coach. Let's see what
happens this year, but I think the Utes should dial back the money at first
opportunity and save a little money while still getting the same results.
Larry would probably be hired away by another P5 school if he wasn’t paid
such a big salary. Meanwhile he’s having to turn a program around after
years of neglect. I think Chris Hill addressed this some time ago.
Is LK living up to his salary? Yes. 1000 times yes. If for no other reason than
because BYU-P fans hate him so much. I couldn't care less if he never wins
another game - I just love watching BYU-P fans get their shorts in a bunch over
I don't have any problem with how much Utah is paying Krystkowiak. For
starters, he's been a great coach. That's evident by the way
he's shown to have turned our program around. But on top of that, even if
he ISN'T living up to his salary, the fact that he makes that much money
sets a precedent to OTHER top quality coaches across the country that we're
willing to pay top dollar for an elite coach. If Mark Few really IS frustrated
with the WCC, at least he'll know that if Utah came calling, he'll (1)
pull down a higher salary than Gonzaga is giving him, and (2) find a consistent
multi-bid league that values Basketball, and (3) find a school that supports
their program as well. And that's a pretty attractive incentive. If we
were paying Krystkowiak LESS than Few, or even the same amount, why would he
leave Spokane? If we were paying Krystkowiak less than Few, but offered Few
more money, he might see that as window dressing for a school that doesn't
provide coaches the tools they need to succeed. But the way things are now,
EVERYBODY can see that we DO!Go Utes!
It is harsh to talk about a man's salary in the newspaper. That said, it
is ridiculous that the sports coaches to earn more than the president of the
university. Something is wrong with this system. Doug Robinson likes to point
out that the NCAA is really a business that makes a profit. Maybe he is correct
and university administrations should get out of the sports business and
concentrate on academics.
He is overpaid. He did get fans like Chris B to jump on the
bandwagon by rebuilding to a top 4 PAC-12 program.But to justify his
high pay, he'll need a Sweet 16 run next year.Kyle Whittingham
is not over paid when you consider an average cosch like Bronco Mendenhall has a
higher salary.@MeckofahessAre you aware of the economic
impact of football and basketball for the state? Both coaches are "job
I'm with Meckofahess on this one.That's a lot of money for
an extra curricular event at a "temple of learning".I know
most of the salary comes from the "side-show" events, but is shows what
a mess intercollegiate athletics has become.
“He has taken his team from 11th in the conference during his first season
to recent finishes of second, second, fourth, and now tied for third. So his
program is in the top one-third or one-fourth of the conference.”Those are great finishes given that his team appears to have slightly lower
payroll than some other top PAC schools.
Picked to finish 7th in the PAC-12, finishes 3rd, with no real stars on the
team; has to recruit to Utah against programs recruiting to LA., the Bay Area,
Tempe, Seattle. He manages to recruit three straight NBA players to Utah by
finding under-the-radar talent. He does all this while not paying for players
and running a clean program. I think the investment in Larry will pay off. And
no, he’s not getting tax dollars.
Valid article If we are paying top notch salary we should be a top
notch programAnd we aren’t. Even a big dance ticket this year
doesn’t change that. We deserve elite 8 quadlity teams with
the money we are paying
NO he isn't living up to his salary and neither is Kyle Whitingham!. In
both cases their salaries are immoral, obscene and unjustifiable period.If even one dollar of my taxes are going toward their salaries it is a
travesty and theft in my opinion because I totally do not support those salaries
in any way-shape-or-form. I don't care if they both win the national
championships it is wrong.