@ Silver Stingray - St George, UT - Feb. 19, 2018 2:34 p.m. - "The list of
claimants who have predicted the end of the world and the Second Coming over the
centuries based on the scriptures is numbered in the hundreds. All of them,
including Joseph Smith got it wrong. So why would this author think he is right?
Only the gullible will buy into this."Joseph Smith never
predicted when Christ would return.
RE: Craig Clark’ “The idea that Christ will return endures after two
thousand years. For me, it’s sufficient to appreciate the significance of
Jesus in human history”I kept looking in the night visions,
And behold, with the clouds of heaven One like a Son of Man was coming, And He
came up to the Ancient of Days=(*God the Father) And was presented before
Him(Dan 7:13)”Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in
heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when they see the Son
of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory.( Mt 24:30)“Son of Man” was a Messianic title. Jesus is the One who was
given dominion and glory and a kingdom. When Jesus used this phrase, He was
assigning the Son of Man prophecy to Himself. The Jews of that era would have
been intimately familiar with the phrase and to whom it referred. Jesus was
proclaiming Himself as the Messiah.“* the Ancient of Days came
and pronounced judgment in favor of the holy people of the Most High, and the
time came when they possessed the kingdom.(Dan 7:22)
The idea that Christ will return endures after two thousand years. For me,
it’s sufficient to appreciate the significance of Jesus in human history.
He was believed by some during his lifetime to be the Messiah Jews awaited to be
their deliverer when they were under Roman rule. Had it not been for
that hope, Jesus likely would have been forgotten within a generation of his
public crucifixion. Instead, he became immortalized in a new religion that took
a uniquely Jewish idea and adapted it for a world that was hungry for something
more than was offered by the multitude of gods they knew.
Mark 13:32"But as for that day or hour, no one knows, not even the
angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."
I finished this book over the week-end. It was a good read. Uplifting. And I
also have Duane Crowther's book Prophecy, Key to the Future, which has more
detail, more quotes from prophets. I think it is longer. Since I have
Crowther's book in hard copy and this book in E format, I can't be
totally sure without putting more time into it than I want to. Judd's book
comes under the category of "good to know" without obscure prophet
quotes and conclusions. Judd also has a chapter about the disintegration of the
family, with I think we could not fathom when Crowther's book came out.
Crowther didn't mention Islam, which is also a greater force than expected.
Crowther's book is fun to read to see what 'we' thought 50 years
ago. I'm made notes in the margins over the years, which I enjoy perusing
now and then. To Roy Webb of Perth - Judd's book is pretty positive, the
up-side is woven in the narrative. I thought it was worth the $10 or so.
I'm wondering if there is anything in the book regarding the positive
'signs of the times'? I'm thinking of the proliferation of temple
building, the amazing communication system we have that the Lord will no doubt
need as He rules the earth from the 2 Jerusalems, the internet for dissemination
of information and the simplicity of family history work, and The Family History
Guide internet site that makes doing our family history so much easier and
enjoyable. There must be a lot more positive signs that I've not thought
of. I'd buy the book if these things were included. Thanks.
The list of claimants who have predicted the end of the world and the Second
Coming over the centuries based on the scriptures is numbered in the hundreds.
All of them, including Joseph Smith got it wrong. So why would this author
think he is right? Only the gullible will buy into this.
I like Duane Crowther's book on prophecy. Last I checked it was hard to
get but I obtained a used copy.It's an important subject but
would need to leaf through this new offering, the book under review, to see more
details than are offered here.
I'll read it! I've been studying the Book of Mormon intensely and we
are now in 3 Nephi. The parallels between that time and our time are impossible
to ignore. Check out Helaman 7:5 talking about political corruption... "no
justice.... Condemning the righteous because of their righteousness, letting the
guilty... go unpunished because of their money.... "(people) set (their)
hearts upon the riches and vain things of the world, for the which (they) do
murder, plunder and steal and bear false witness... and all manner of
iniquity." People trust in their own strength and forget God. So they are
left in their own strength. (Helaman 4:13) Also check out Helaman 5:2. Be like
Aminadab and remember! (Helaman 5:41) When you scoff at these ideas, check out
Helaman 16, there were scoffers then, proved wrong! Look at 3 Nephi 6:13-14....
about the "great inequality in the land". V 13: Some were lifted up in
pride...some did return railing for railing while others would receive railing
and persecution and all manner of afflictions and would not turn and revile
again, but were humble and penitent before God." Lots of "railing"
going on here.
It’s not credible when a so-called book review reads like an
author’s or publisher’s advertising print. There’s no balanced
appraisal here, it’s all praise and positive. No flip side or down-side?
No buts? No criticism at all? No objective analysis? Just a commercial to buy
the book. So the review is absent any credibility. No book is perfect, even the
Bible (see 1st Nephi 13 and the title page of the Book of Mormon). The reviewer here (Alicia), uses suspect words like “facts”.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Some really smart people may (and usually
do) disagree with one’s assertion of facts or that their conclusion and
analysis is fact, nothing less. That’s dangerous ground. Alicia gives the impression that this author’s work is equal to
scripture so most any LDS really must have this book (sold for personal &
business profit, this is a commercial, business retail product). That’s just downright inappropriate - and wrong. The book might be good,
even great, but it cannot possibly be all that is being alleged in this review
or else it begs to be seriously considered for canonization. And that will NEVER
The whole vision of the dramatic prophesied and speculative telling of future
events relative to the 2nd coming, and its other related items (Millennium,
battle of Gog & Magog, 2 stoned prophets, Satan bound & loosed,
paradasical glory, judgment, Adam-Ondi-Ahman, etc., etc., etc.), seems to now
have become ever - evolving - to put it gently. The closer we get to when this
stuff should be happening, the more the foretelling & vision changes. Kind
of a gut feeling on credibility, (at least for some). Did the world
become just plain evil & Satanic? Or did the world become more progressive,
democratic & liberal? (Some would call it enlightened, progressed, advanced,
new discoveries, that kind of thing). Some look at all of that as archaic, old
school, out-dated, obsolete, that. Others say they are only ever learning, never
finding truth. That’s harsh. Science, engineering and technology never
finding truth? Seriously? The old timelines aren’t working
anymore. Adam left Eden 4,000 BC. We have archeology that proves man was around
much longer than that. They’re not wrong folks. Now to reconcile the
two...The ancient & the future are symbiotic. The Church is
true, so is science...