Sorry @london_josh but it's more likely than you think. The church
doesn't need to advertise BYU because it's not really competing for
students. There's a long line to get inm and it's not going anywhere.
Their little TV station is a fun project, but it's not paying the bills.
They'll keep it around for that comedy show and re-runs of little house on
the prairie , but make not mistake, it's not a viable substitute for the
ESPN contract, which will likely go away. Sports are expensive and, again,
they've shut down two programs citing travel expense already. Have they
REALLY opened up the checkbooks for coaching? Compared to the rest of college
football? C'mon now. They have 3rd or 4th tier guys and they don't pay
them the going rate. And the practice facilities will be super nice for
intramurals. Sorry, but if trends continue... this is what'll happen. I
give it 10 years tops.
Rain Man,So BYU builds a new practice facility and expands the TV
broadcasting system and owns it's own TV network and opens up the
checkbooks for better coaches which all leads to your brilliant conclusion that
it's shutting BYU football down.First you'd see every
other sport shut down because even the exciting and wining volleyball team loses
money - basketball breaks even, and football makes enough to make up for all
their losses.Football is a massive advertising tool for schools,
when you confuse it with church PR you leave out the reason for the 95% of teams
that aren't religiously affiliated.No way that BYU drops
@BlueHusky - So, the precedent has already been set. The church shut down sports
at BYU-I and BYU-H already. Obviously those aren't the flagship schools,
but they were quality athletics programs that were one day just *POOF* gone. BYU
makes a lot of money from the ESPN contract it's true, but that contract is
going to end and if BYU continues to play at the level it has the past few
years, I think it's unlikely to be renewed. And don't tell me BYU-TV
makes up for it. Not having a regional conference is very expensive for travel
too. Does the church really want to keep spending money like that to go get
walloped in a southern state with no Mormons around? And sorry, but not every
African convert is Ziggy. Unless BYU can land the top Mormon recruits from
across the country (and Pacific Islands) they're going to get worse and the
church will shut it down. Church HQ is all about good PR, and bad football is
NOT the PR they're looking for.
WACer Utah's Little Brother:But according to independent
authorities, Rivals is the "most accurate" of all the recruit rating
sources. So if Rivals is #1, who cares what the Scout, 247, or ESPN recruit
rating services say?Also, those transfers and RMs you'd cited
are entirely irrelevant to both this article, as well as the content of my post.
Navel"Alfrey, Davis, Herron, and Moore each met cougar
standards! They all had "2 stars".--According to
Scout BYU has recruited fifteen 3* and six 2*......Alfrey being one of them.
BYU also has a few 4* recruits from transfers and return missionary's
playing this year. The mighty Yoots that have never won even an outright P12
South title have twenty one 3* and two 4* recruits......so in all reality in the
Holy War this year we'll have a bunch of 3* recruits with a few 4* recruits
mixed in on both teams playing each other........advantage no one......This is
why in the majority of years the game is always so close.
"All four meet a height and speed standard the Cougars look for in
defenders. This is one area BYU coaches were very concerned about with the 2018
class. They called them 'measurables.'" -- Dick HarmonIn addition to both "height" and "speed", the coaches also
noticed a 3rd "measurable" wherein Alfrey, Davis, Herron, and Moore each
met cougar standards! They all had "2 stars".
BlueHusky:"As for facing its demise, BYU isn't going
anywhere."So in other words, the cougars are expected to
maintain their position as one of the midmajor "recruiting titans"
annually ranked somewhere in the "90s", and finishing out each season
ranked in the 100s?Congratulations?Haha!
Measurables speak to a players upside potential. Seems like a reasonable
criteria for recruitment. With that said last year BYU's tall /
big players seemed to be beaten badly by opponents smaller and quicker
players. How about recruiting some quickness? How about recruiting proven
players? Look at BYU's 2018 signing class. With few exceptions it is full
of projects. For BYU to be successful they need to start recruiting
proven players. Who cares if a kid is under 6 foot. If he can play he can play.
The NFL is full of players that would not meet BYU's "desirable
measurables." Per a recent article the 2017 NFL Pro Bowl roster had 15
PLAYERS under 6 foot. My hope is that BYU will start recruiting more
talent and less potential.
@Utah had a similar story.He knew he could play at Utah rather than
sitting on the bench.
@ rain man - High school kids are risky. He may be a 4 star and never make the
team. BYU has had some of those guys, not least of whom was 5-star Jake Heaps
who flamed out big time.So "measurables" is a hedge. The
pros do it all the time. They have to have certain speed, jump to a certain
height, lift past a certain weight, etc.As for facing its demise,
BYU isn't going anywhere. The have a lot of money, their own studio, and
are on TV every game. That is not going to stop. As church population increases,
especially in places like Africa, they'll get recruits.
Yesterday, we were advised that the BYU recruiting was limited by high academic
standards and the honor code. Now we are advised that BYU has other
"player" recruiting measurables like speed and size that didn't get
much attention from other D1 schools. Harvard and Stanford must be overwhelmed
with the newly found academic competition from Provo.
I think it's a stretch to call 6'1" tall when we're talking
about defensive backs. It also concerns me that only one of these guys primarily
played the position previously. With signing out-of-position
recruits, the QB mess, the low-ranked recruiting class, conference
independence, and recent on-field suckage, BYU football feels lower than ever. I
hope they can turn it around but I have a feeling the program is facing its
demise in the not-too-distant future.
Maybe , just maybe the most important "measurable" should be can the
student-athlete "make plays" regardless. They are out there just need to
do the work to find them and get by bias and favoritism. #culturematters
Measurables? Nice. Speed, also nice. But what about ability to play football?
There’s a lot more in football than speed, i.e., tackling, field
awareness, physicality, etc. Track speed is different than football field speed
too. I think one of these recruits played in only two football games over his
junior and senior years combined. Hopefully Sitake’s recruiting on
measurables rather than experience and demonstrables works out. It hasn’t
" We’ve been on him since last June. We offered him a few days before
signing day,” Utah had a similar story. Once (just a week
before Letter of intent signing day) it became know that Utah had invited a
rugby player to an "official visit" and extended an offer UCLA's
Coach Kelly sent the player a letter-of-intent which the player could sign even
though he had never been on a visit to UCLA. Also both the University of
Washington and University of Oregon coaches asked the rugby player not to sign
with Utah on that Wednesday so that the player could visit their schools. the
Outcome - He's a Ute!