@ 65TossPowerTrap - Salmon, ID - Feb. 7, 2018 10:58 a.m. - "The Detmerites
are totally clueless. That guy was a great player and a horrible coach. Get
it?"Over the years I've agreed with most of what you say,
but, no, I don't "get it". Have you ever been a
teacher in a high performance environment? Have you ever been a teacher in ANY
environment? Well I have, and it takes three things and only three things to be
a great teacher in any subject:1 - A thorough knowledge of your
craft/area of expertise.2 - A true desire and passion to teach.3 -
You have to speak the language of your pupils, and by this I literally mean
"English".Yep, that's it. You simply
cannot teach what you don't know. With Ty's football background he
clearly had #1. Ty knew the road ahead would be tough and yet he came anyway so
#2 was not a problem, and by the way, #2 overcomes any lack of connection with
your pupils on an emotional level. And, yeah, I'm pretty sure a lack of #3
was not the problem.Injuries, lack of skill/athleticism, our
starting QB lacked confidence and talented teams caused us problems.Even great coaching is not a sure-fire fix for those issues.
Steward comes to BYU from a team that won 1 game last year.
The Detmerites are totally clueless. That guy was a great player and a horrible
coach. Get it?
@robo - I agree...Brady is as Pro-Style as they come. He plays behind a
talented line that protected him very well for most of the game (there's a
reason he can be 40 and lead the league in passing). The offense wasn't
the problem, the players were...they were all injured. Of course the coach
still needs to adapt the offense to the players but to say last year was
Detmer's fault is completely wrong. But then I'm not a football
brain, Holmoe was content with the changes so there was something to them.
Down Fluffy'sI guess the proof is in the pudding. I will hold
back judgement until I see what happens. None of us are experts.
None of us are in the room with the coaches and players. Lavell Edwards was a
no name as well as the people he brought in yet we know how that ended up.
Brady was what the 165 pick of the draft and look what he has done (even if he
lost with 505 yds of passing) Urban M was a coach from a small University for 2
years yet he proved to be a great one. So I say let's support
what has happened and instead of criticizing on what we have no clue will happen
to working with them to make it happen. If next year is a disaster
then more change may be needed. If not then many of us will need to eat some
crow. I think the BYU is in good hands. We are not Alabama, LSU, Clemson or
Ohio State. Never will be. BYU is BYU and I am proud of it. So
all you Fluffy's out there. Calm down and let's have a great year.
Grimes knows what he's doing and he will bring out the best in these
players, and the group of coaches he has assembled are accomplished and
successful. Time will tell the naysayers such as robo are way off base.Remember, many people that laughed at the Bronco hire now wish he was still in
Provo. I was not among those fans. I'm here to assure BYU fans that Sitake
is doing everything possible to right the ship and yes, he has made defensive
moves as well.I do expect BYU fans will be pleased with how BYU
competes this season compared to last season. Hopefully, there will be fewer
injuries. Look at how BYU has recruited this year. They are getting (much)
bigger and faster. Ignore the star rankings. The coaches have worked hard to
upgrade size and talent among players, and discipline and teaching among
coaches. Don't be fooled by the naysayers.
Good point Husky
Revamp defense. Fire defensive coaches, we were horrible defensively last year!
Look at the tapes. Do something.
Wow ... the peanut gallery is in full voice today. None of you know anything
about evaluating coaches. Nor are you qualified to coach a pee-wee team.Last year was a disaster, but that was due to 40 injuries. Every QB was
out. No running back played two games in a row. The defense was crippled by
injuries. This points to the weight coach ... I think these guys were
over-bulked. But what do I know? Nothing. That's just a guess.Now, nobody is running the old pro-set that Detmer set up. Consider the Super
Bowl. Speed is everything. Did you see a QB dropping back and standing around
"reading" the field. No. They got the ball out within 2 seconds. Even
Van Noy could not get to the QB before he launched it. Ty Detmer was a great
player, but his offense was way out of date. Period.What do I like
about the Offense hires? Recruiting. We now have recruiters from the South and
Texas. Rice was 1-11, but that was against good teams. Our new offensive
coordinator recruited all over the south for great teams.This is a
new era and a completely new direction for BYU. Give it a year or two.
Local Blue, I think you are right.
Can someone please explain why a 2-star or higher rated QB prospect would
seriously consider coming to BYU to be tutored by a receiver who has not seen
success as a college coach? Or has Roderick had some success in coaching I am
Ok, I'll admit I have no clue about anything. But my unqualified guess is
Detmer was a great X's and O's guy but not a great disciplinarian and
taskmaster at the college level. In college simple execution is usually more
important than innovation and will take you farther. For some reason, execution
was terrible last year and even simple plays were often blown.All of
this said, the ultimate taskmaster has to be the head coach. We'll see if
Sitake can change his approach. We need less player coach and more Saban like
discipline and execution.
I continue to be dismayed by Detmer’s treatment. It seems to me that
Sitaki had to show a willingness to make the hard call. But you go through 4
qb’s, the Francis fiasco, the young full back who’s name I forget,
and on and on, and then fire Ty Detmer? I know there were issues last year, but
what happened to Detmer was wrong. Having said that, Grimes is the one hire that
stands out to me as solid and with a personality to drive change. Well,
right or wrong, here we are. I just hate to say it, but I’m not brimming
with confidence right now. If no bowl game next year, I’m afraid Sitaki
will need to go.
Wow. Rice finished 1-11 last year and BYU gets one of their great coaches. Oh
I'm a dedicated BYU homer, and have high hopes for this team, but little
confidence currently. Sitake really shot his credibility by dumping on
BYU's most valuable football asset, and this after all the talk about
developing a superior product and taking the time and making the moves to do so.
I won't be surprised if Ty Detmer gets snapped up and employed properly by
a big name school and gets enough time to develop a system like he wanted to at
BYU. I'll be glad to be proven wrong, but between this and the
extraordinary discipline problems that surfaced in this past season, I just
don't trust Kalani's judgement or leadership ability at this point.
Hoping someone in the BYU athletic administration wakes up and makes a deal with
Oh please water rockets. Enough of the histrionics. If you’re such a fair
weather fan, cheer for whoever you want but spare the rest of us your
I think most of us BYU fans are trying to be positive and withhold judgment
until we see what happens next year. Lots of coaching staff changes have been
made, but will it translate into different results on the field???
Wow, I don't get all the gloom and doom. Personally, I think the offensive
staff will be greatly improved and will be running a system that fits the
personnel. I'm a huge fan of Ty Detmer, but something about his offense
just wasn't working. This team will be greatly improved next year, with a
tough early schedule to test just how far they have come. I'm excited to
see Grimes' product on the field.
Call me crazy but I wish the staff was older and had an old sage, somebody who
has seen about everything that has that extra bit of wisdom.
Detmer simply did not have the talent necessary to run his offense. His mistake
was not realizing that fact. Interesting that the Philly coach was only 8 years
removed from coaching HS football. Like pipes, I'm none too excited about
these changes. I think the biggest change that needs to occur is the culture
created by Sitaki. The pendulum swung too far the other way from the Bronco
days. It would seem a little more discipline is in need. Sitaki has to realize
that he's not there to be their dad, buddy, friend or pal. He's there
to coach them up and make them perform at their highest level.
Alrighty then, there's our new offensive coaching staff. Let's cross
our fingers and hope for the best.
After watching the Super Bowl, and how both of those teams performed, I can see
just how much Detmer had to offer, and how big a mountain he had to climb. I
can also see how far BYU is behind times with an inexperienced head coach and
his buddy as the defensive head coach (with ero head coaching experience,
either). Sadly, not only are my expectations for BYU at an all time low (except
under Crowton's last year), but with the lack of integrity, and the
terrible way Detmer was used as a scape goat, I am almost to the point of
rooting against the team I have rooted for all these many years.
I have yet to see a hire to get excited about or to any way give hope that the
team will return to relevance...
I admit to a degree of unawareness, but I have no idea what "Robo" is