Evangelical chaplain’s suspension intensifies denomination’s gay marriage debate

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  • Elizabeth1912 Stafford, VA
    Jan. 13, 2018 2:44 p.m.

    An inherit problem exist with anything pertaining to the LDS Church and ALL others. God said many things about many things that are in the Old Testament and any other writings, stories, and references. Then God SENT his son Jesus to teach us "NEW" laws to live by. Christ ended, changed, removed, and revised some of God's laws. In that process he gave us "NEW Laws".

    God said he will recognize only those marriage done "Under" him (God) as by his law. HE (God) will NOT recognize any marriage NOT done under him or by his law. This is mentioned in D&C 132. Some Churches and other Faiths believe in similar fashion.

    That means that any marriage SSM, Gay, Straight, or other done "Civilly" are NOT recognized by God or by his law. Therefore are NOT "Under God" as most anti-gay and SSM object to. Why should we be concerned with any marriage not recognized by God? That leads us to an interesting question or issue. What of marriages and SSM that are done by a Faith or Church that condones, supports, and conducts SSM? Christ gave us our Agency and the 11th AoF reinforces it. Christ told us there are severe punishments for denying someone of their agency. Are we denying agency?

  • CMO Beaver Beaver, UT
    Jan. 13, 2018 5:16 a.m.

    She went against the word of the lord.. Christianity is not a popularity contest... if it was it never would have got off the ground... do you know how many martyrs their were in the first century...

  • 4601 Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 12, 2018 3:28 p.m.

    "The lady preacher should join a new faith tradition, presumably one that does not discriminate."

    Using the word "discriminate" is in itself pejorative. I was discriminated against in high school when I was cut from the varsity basketball team simply because I had little athletic ability. Any organization, including a church, with rules or doctrine will "discriminate" against someone who does not follow their rules.

  • sashabill Morgan Hill, CA
    Jan. 12, 2018 2:14 p.m.

    unrepentant progressive

    Moral standards are, by nature and definition, discriminatory. The lady preacher is in a tradition which recognizes the difference between love (agape) and relativism --something which seems to have been lost on the "politically correct" crowd. The concept of paths "up" the mountain also presumes and implies that there are paths "down" the mountain.

  • unrepentant progressive Bozeman, MT
    Jan. 12, 2018 12:42 p.m.

    The lady preacher should join a new faith tradition, presumably one that does not discriminate.

    There are many paths up the mountain. Try a different one.

  • CMTM , 00
    Jan. 12, 2018 12:12 p.m.

    RE: Karen R..(Jesus), “Have you not read that from the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female’ and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’?(MT 19:4-5)

    RE RanchHand. “what Christ said and did.” E.g…,

    "A new command I give you: Love(G.*agape) one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another.(John 13:34).

    *Agape love is benevolence, and willful delight in the object of love. Jesus did not mean eros romantic or sexual love.

  • sashabill Morgan Hill, CA
    Jan. 12, 2018 11:47 a.m.


    Christ and his apostles spoke explicitly of marriage as being a man and a woman.

  • YBH Sugarland, TX
    Jan. 12, 2018 11:40 a.m.

    If they are progressive enough to ordain a woman pastor, why can't accept a gay man can marry another man?

  • HSTucker Holladay, UT
    Jan. 12, 2018 11:08 a.m.

    Accusing a particular individual of having "forgotten what Christ said and did" is a personal attack. I am surprised and disappointed that such a comment was approved and published.

  • Red Corvette St George, UT
    Jan. 12, 2018 10:16 a.m.

    Most churches are finding enlightenment over oppressive traditions and mythology.

  • RanchHand Huntsville, UT
    Jan. 12, 2018 7:22 a.m.


    Many people, like yourself, have forgotten what Christ said and did.

  • Karen R. Houston, TX
    Jan. 12, 2018 5:57 a.m.

    @ Light and Liberty

    "Many churches are lost to the persuasions of societal relativity."

    More and more humans are coming around to the idea, revealed to us by science, that variations on sexual orientation occur naturally and that it's unhealthy to compel or coerce people to go against their nature.

    Another example of how science can lead us higher and how religion can retard.

  • Light and Liberty St George, UT
    Jan. 11, 2018 7:35 p.m.

    Many churches are lost to the persuasions of societal relativity.