BYU basketball: Can Cougars recover from bad loss at Pacific and can TJ Haws break out of shooting slump?

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  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    Jan. 14, 2018 12:13 a.m.


    "...I think the image of TJ Haws "face-planting" on the hardwood has to be the most poetic illustration of cougar basketball that I've ever seen!...
    I'm guessing you don't keep up with college basketball much... So let me shed a little light on your comment... The team that you equate to a "face plant on the hardwood"... blew the team that you root for off the hardwood just a couple of weeks ago by double digits... so, speaking of "poetic illustrations" what would the picture of the utes basketball program look like?

    I love it when ute fans get on BYU boards to trash talk the Cougs ... it closely resembles folks living in glass houses throwing stones... It makes for great hypocritical entertainment. Lol.

  • 3GrandKeys Walnut Creek, CA
    Jan. 12, 2018 5:47 p.m.

    McKay Cannon should be starting over TJ by now. He carries himself with more confidence. He's higher energy on D and has been knocking down his shots (and at least he's willing to take the shots when they come to him). TJ is passing up way too many threes and opting for wild contested drives to the hoop (usually accompanied by whining at officials for not drawing a foul). Last year TJ was much more impressive. Maybe coming off the bench is the wake up call he needs.

  • NevadaCoug Overton, NV
    Jan. 11, 2018 9:30 p.m.

    Let's be fair to TJ a bit here, shall we? Perhaps his "demise" isn't as severe as some think.

    Comparing his stats this season to last, he has decreased his turnovers by 1 per game, increased his assists, rebounds, and free throw percentage. They aren't huge differences, but he has improved. The big concern is the huge decrease in his shooting percentage. He's taking slightly fewer shots per game, but his percentages have dipped dramatically; from .404 to .320 from three, and .424 to .369 overall.

    Sure, he's probably suffering from an adjustment in the way the offense is being run this season compared to last. I wouldn't give up on him just yet, though. His peripherals seem to be improving, at least slightly. If he can get his shot back, it will be a huge asset to the team.

  • Eastern CO Coug Elizabeth, CO
    Jan. 11, 2018 5:42 p.m.

    Wish Haws well. And no there is no reason to panic in my opinion. Young team and they will have some big wins before the season is over. Not predicting NCAA tournament just yet, but the team has big upside. Impressed with Hardnett and he can provide some scoring to the team. Cannon can shoot more- might as well; can't be worse than some. If Haws can get it going, the team will improve. Just seems to lack energy this year.

  • 65TossPowerTrap Salmon, ID
    Jan. 11, 2018 3:21 p.m.

    If you want to see a face plant - tune into any utah basketball game. Thanks for supporting BYU athletics.

  • DeepBlue Anaheim, CA
    Jan. 11, 2018 3:20 p.m.

    TJ is definitely in a shooting slump, but other than Yoeli and Elijah, nobody else has been doing much better.

    Fatigue may have been a factor in BYU's struggles at Pacific, since Childs (39) and Bryant (40), played almost every minute of the game. Yoeli only scoring one point in the first was a killer.

    Haws, Seljaas, Cannon, and Hardnett all need to step up their game to take some of the pressure off of Childs and Bryant.

  • water rocket Magna, UT
    Jan. 11, 2018 3:15 p.m.

    Haws has always been a "shoot first" player. Now that the coaches are requiring him to play defense, and pass the ball more, his shooting has gone down, He still isn't a good defender, and without his scoring, he should sit and give others a chance to develop.

  • Swoop Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 11, 2018 3:02 p.m.


    How about that face plant the Utes did in the Marriott Center earlier this season?

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Jan. 11, 2018 2:11 p.m.

    Personally, I think the image of TJ Haws "face-planting" on the hardwood has to be the most poetic illustration of cougar basketball that I've ever seen! If only we had a similar one with Mangum face-planting on the gridiron vs. ECU or UMass. Oh well. I guess we'll just have to make do with the football "face-plant" shown on riseandshout dot net.

  • taylormade1 Springville, UT
    Jan. 11, 2018 10:56 a.m.

    Just wondering what rose would give to still have chatman ( and his 14 ppg and 43% from the arc , not to mention his superior defense) on this team rather than a couple of the head cases that he currently has .....

  • Ida Preston, ID
    Jan. 11, 2018 10:49 a.m.

    Sorry all you LP fans, but TJ should be benched NOW! If and when he demonstrates that he can play as expected without turnovers and with reasonable shooting skills, and no fancy attempts to show off and be "Jimmeresk", then give him another shot. The team goes down the tube every time he enters the game. I just can't believe Rose doesn't see that, and keeps kicking a dead horse trying to create a thoroughbred! Ain't gonna happen with this guy, that is my opinion!

  • Old But Not Stupid Moorpark, CA
    Jan. 11, 2018 9:39 a.m.

    65Toss has it right. Haws playing time should not be wasted.

    This kid is way over hyped.....often shows up as a turnover machine, takes a 27 ft three instead of 23 ft three. Has made himself into a serious head case.

    Can't stand to see him frequently appeal to refs after calls that went against him--especially when he puts his hands on the ref! Refs don't like that faux familiarity; so he hurts himself and his team with such spoiled child behavior.

    Best players on the team are no longer from Lone Peak HS......

  • 65TossPowerTrap Salmon, ID
    Jan. 11, 2018 9:05 a.m.

    "He’s made just 4 of 18 3-point attempts over the last seven games. He's yet to score in double figures in WCC play."

    Then why is he playing so much? BYU needs to get away from this legacy stuff and adopt a meritocracy. It's simple - the best players play.

  • deductive reasoning Arlington, VA
    Jan. 11, 2018 7:38 a.m.


    "LP players have been overhyped."

    Yet, the kids on the hill continue to be obsessed with them.

  • cjd1 Draper, UT
    Jan. 10, 2018 10:39 p.m.

    LP players have been overhyped.

  • Fashion Police Olympus Cove, Utah
    Jan. 10, 2018 8:46 p.m.

    Silly question; of course they can recover.

    Disappointing loss, but not the end of the season.