@2 bits"I'm not a Trump lover. But I am a truth lover. And you
are not telling the truth."========= Oxymoron of the
century....You defend Trump constantly.Christ is
TruthAnti-Christ is a Liar....plain and simple.
@Silo,Gallup is the gold standard (not Monmouth College). Monmouth has a
reputation for biased polls.So you can find a group that gives him
lower than 37%, on a day this year... Why not use today's numbers? And
use the most widely used Gallup poll numbers? Because it doesn't fit your
narrative?There's lots of polling groups. If I cherry picked
like you, and picking one day, and the right polling group, I could claim
Trump's lowest approval rating was 47%. But who trusts Rasmussen more
than Gallup? Nobody.If I cherry picked like you I could claim his
rating never went below 40%Rasmussen says 47% approval was
Trump's worst scoreCNBC says his lowest rating was 42%NBC News
says 41% was his lowestBloomberg News says 40%GW Battleground says
42%Is Monmouth college the gold standard? NO. Gallup is. So I
used their number (37%)And even if you cherry pick Monmouth...
Carter had less than 20% approval. Truman 22%. So it's a lie that Trump
has the lowest approval rating of any President.I trust Gallup.
Even though their number was lower than others. You picked the lowest score of
the 22. Why?
The P/E's aren't too high, and business profits are soaring.
It's not just paper wealth therefore, and it seems to still be growing with
a foundation. (Also, 90% of the Recovery time period was in the Obama years
too, not just the replacement jobs.) Economics may well help Trump and
mid-terms. To quote a substantiated market mantra: "the prices
are right and the markets are quick." When there is a correction or
slowdown, stocks will be the first to adjust.
I admire and support our President.I am particularly impressed with
how he runs the gauntlet of the long knives every day.It should
concern all of us how willing so many are to dismiss the bedrock American
principle of the will of the people when their candidate loses.It
should also concern all of us how akin prioritizing content on the Internet and
in the cultural environment is to book burning. It has been said
that those who wrestle with us strengthen our nerves and sharpen our skills.
Our antagonist is our helper.I pray for our warrior
@2bits “There's usually a reason the poor are poor. They don't
work as hard, or bring in as much business as people who earn more.”Wow. Talk abt over-simplified judgmental hogwash. Would you be thinking
of the “hard-working” Trump, who works so hard on his golf games,
watching cable t.v., tweeting, etc. Trump inherited wealth—as many rich
people do—& has prob. lost more than he's made. Many people make
lots of money from stocks w/o doing a lick of work, but that requires money to
start w/. And some make tons of money simply by spending a few hrs/year on
various director's boards. Or like the management from Well's Fargo
making huge bonuses from fraudulently charging customer fees, etc. Yes, some people do work hard for their money, such as doctors, engineers,
etc. & many business owners, but do they really work any harder than:
construction workers, janitors, small farmers, or teachers? Could a
McDonald's owner run it single-handedly, w/o the min. wage employees. Plus,
people born w/money have greater access to quality higher education &
connections to more prestigious jobs. Attitudes like this help explain why
so many people are living in poverty in our country right now.
@2 bits"I'm not a Trump lover. But I am a truth lover. And you
are not telling the truth."This is a pretty pointed response.
Especially considering that yes, in fact, there are multiple polls this year
that have Trumps approval rating at 32%, exactly as OMM stated.You
citing a single poll with different results does nothing to refute those
claims.Monmouth, National Opinion Research Center, Lucid, IBD, and
Pew Research all have Trump hitting a 32% approval at some point this year.
Some have him hitting that number twice this year."Get
Look -- The truth is, Trump is destroying Trump.The trick is to not let him destroy America while he's at it!
And BTW, much of the huge corporate tax cut will go toward stock buybacks,
feeding the bubble. This could be very bad news.
Samuelson is right about a possible stock market crash. The current stock
market boom has all the appearances of another speculative bubble. We get them
every now and then in capitalism, usually after memory of the last one has
dimmed.At some point enough people will see the stocks are way over
valued, out of line with actual corporate worth, and the market will crash. Of
course this won't mean another Great Depression necessarily, but it could
well lead to a recession because of the huge negative wealth effect such a crash
would bring, i.e. the wealth in stock portfolios would be cut and spending would
decrease. Keep an eye on the banking biz. Is it leveraging stock
purchases? Such could be very dangerous. I don't think anybody is
@Open Minded Mormon - Everett, WA 11:41 a.m.I'm not a Trump lover.
But I am a truth lover. And you are not telling the truth.RE:
"Trump is at 32% approval (false), -- lowest ever! (false)"...---Truth:-Trump's latest approval rating (Gallup) for January
2-7, 2018 is 37% (not 32%)-And its not the lowest ever. Carters was
28% (06/26/79, 10/02/79). Much lower than Trump's approval rating
Truman's approval rating was 22% (11/16/51 and 02/14/52)
Clinton's approval rating was 37% (06/06/93) Obama's approval
rating was 38% (09/05/14) Reagan's lowest was 35% (01/31/83) (lower
than Trump today)So no.. it's actually not the lowest ever.
Get educated.Google "United States presidential approval rating
- Wikipedia"Don't repeat what you hear on MSNBC talk shows.
Verify it yourself first.
2bits..""Wal-Mart hikes minimum wage to $11 for hourly workers.Wages going up is almost always a good thing (it can be inflationary but not
now). The trend for higher wages started in 2015 when a number of
states and cities raised minimum wages and 13 major companies (WalMart,
McDonalds, Ikea, Target etc.) all raised their minimum salaries. Overall wage
increases started to go up in 2015 back to a 2.5% range. It's
great the trend continues (and I did hear it on MSNBC and CNBC) . Bonuses nice,
not overly impressive but nice. The key to your diatribe about the
poor and wages is "earned". It's a pretty hard convince that the
CEO of Aetna has earned his 42 million dollar paycheck when he raised his
workers salary to $11 an hour. Yes the creation of a plutocracy in
America is a national emergency. Democracies do not survive when 1% of the
population hold 38% of the private wealth and that is more than 90% of the
population. You all are perpetuating your own downfall. Every
other democracy in history has accounted for this in one way or another, except
America, and we're going the opposite direction.
Hey Thid Barker -Re: "The only threat to our economy is
Obama's legacy of running up more debt than all other presidents combined!
"Ha!That's completely FALSE.You
tell lies EVERY day.Keep it up, and the Republicans will nominate
you for POTUS.
I remember in 2016 Samuelson boo-hooing Trump all the way to the election.
According to Samuelson Trump had no chance. Samuelson is as establishment DC as
they come and still can't get his head around the Tea Party let alone
conservative Americans. Every measurable part of the US economy has blossomed
under Trump in just one years time. The stagnant dead Obama economy has been
brought back to life. Incredible all this in just one years time. Our standing
the world has also been brought back to being the leader rather than a confused
follower as it was with Obama. So taking all of this we still have the
never-Trump crowd (Samuelson) boo-hooing Trump and conservatives as he did all
the way through 2016. I guess my take on Samuelson -- who cares what you think.
You were wrong in 2016 and you are clueless still.
The GOP-controlled Congress will extend Trump's temporary use of the Oval
Office on a month-to-month basis, so long as the GDP and monthly job creation
remain above 2% and 100,000, respectively. Republican officials no
longer fear Trump's "populist" movement. Trump has steadily shed
his prior supporters, and he repulses rather than attracts new supporters. Thus
the downside political risks for the GOP impeaching Trump.. Meanwhile, Republican leaders are realizing there is little upside in
continuing to enable Trump. Like Dr. Frankenstein, the GOP created a monster
they could not control. But they went all-in, wagering their individual
integrity in the hopes of running the table in 2017. The prize? Putting into
law a long wish-list of conservative policies they accumulated over the past
20-30 years.The GOP lost. Badly.Handed this
once-in-a-generation opportunity and having wagered their personal reputations ,
the GOP left the table largely empty handed and with their once-certain
political careers in jeopardy. If the economy stalls, Republicans
will throw Trump to the wolves, in the hopes of saving themselves and the party.
@thid"Obama's legacy of running up more debt than all other
presidents combined!"Cite which of Obama's policies
'ran up more debt than all other presidents combined". Cite how much
each of those policies contributed to the overall.You seem confident
in you claim, so I'm sure you already have this data available.
@antitrump"Trump has been, and always will be nothing more than a
carnival barker..."Not completely true. He has and always will be
admitted fraud, adulter, and a liar. Also, it is quite possible a felon
depending upon what the Muellar investigation discovers.
Trump says -- Look at me!Best economy ever!WallStreet
Highest ever!Lowest unemployment ever!Lowest illegal immigration
ever!Americans say -- our wages are going up, our
livelihood are not going up, Trump is at 32% approval, -- lowest
The anti Trump CNBC reported that Walmart, the biggest retailer in the world
has raised their minimum wage to $11 plus bonuses will be paid to their
employees as a result of the tax cut bill. What a great news to over 2 million
Walmart workers! Only the liberals won't be happy about this great
news.Why would anyone vote for the dems that will leave you with
much less money in your pocket?
Trump and administration are a mindless wrecking crew, they are not engineers
that are going to construct anything of value. They will make themselves rich
at the expense of the nation recycling what they rip away from America to make
themselves rich and great the same as the robber barons of the past. Trump is
like an annoying persistent head ache that over time becomes the normal and
acceptable. Soon he will be as common as apple pie, and America will forget the
time it was great, and worship Trump as a staple genius. Heaven help us.
Thid Barker - Victor, ID Jan. 11, 2018 10:43 a.m. Wrote: The only threat to our
economy is Obama's legacy of running up more debt than all other presidents
combined.And the 1 trillion and counting that will be added to the defict
caused by Trump and the republicans so called tax overhaul plan? Reality please!
My original post should have read as follows:IMVHO, becuase of his and the
republicans dismal performance since he was elected there's nothing that
can render Trump a second term. The nation is so energized to be rid of the
element that is destroying this country that the repub's will take a
beating in the mid-terms andTrump will be a one term president.
@kolob1 - Sandy, UT 9:24 a.m.RE: "I did not read one word about wages.
I saw the word wealth and income but this reference belongs to those who are
thriving off the increased stock values. There will never be a successful
economy for now or for the future unless wages go up. Period, end of
discussion"...---You may have to sign up for some news
source like MarketWatch. MSNBC will never give you good news about the economy
when there is a Republican President. You will be in the dark.According to MarketWatch, wages are going up. Even at places like Walmart.I saw this today..."Wal-Mart hikes minimum wage to $11 for
hourly workers, expands maternity leave01/11/2018 08:30:41 AM"...
(read the article)That is an increase.===RE:
"Push for better dispersion of the national wealth"...---How
do you propose the nations wealth be dispersed? By the Government?There's usually a reason the poor are poor. They don't work as
hard, or bring in as much business as people who earn more.You can
say the poor deserve that wealth more than the people who earned it... but they
really don't.Wages are higher. Get educated.
Trump has been, and always will be nothing more than a carnival barker...
If a stronger economy were "fabulous news," Trump's approval
ratings wouldn't still range in the mid to high 30s. What that tells
me--in spite of the all the hoopla--is that it isn't "the economy,
stupid." It's the man. His boorish, contradictory (today's
tweets on the 702 reauthorization, case in point), defensive, childish, inane,
duplicitous, shameful, retaliatory, repugnant, disreputable, demeaning,
agenda-killing unpresidential behavior is what will continue to turn the
electorate against him. His election was a classic case of right
message, wrong messenger.
The only threat to our economy is Obama's legacy of running up more debt
than all other presidents combined! Obama made China our banker! President Trump
MUST change that because we simply can not continue as we had for the previous 8
years! That's why we elected President Trump!
Hey 2 bits -Re: "The stock market was artificially stimulated
with "stimulus packages" during the Obama years. And it's
over-priced (to value) today?"Ha!Obama's
stimulus package, The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009, succeeded
in saving America from catastrophe. The following year, Obama kept the Bush tax
cuts in place through the Tax Relief, Unemployment Insurance Reauthorization,
and Job Creation Act of 2010 to help Americans out in a time of need. The stock market continued climbing steadily, and we NEVER entered a period of
recession.And then Trump took over . . . And the stock market began
climbing even faster. Acceleration in the growth of the stock
market precedes crashes. Ever heard of the Great Depression, which occurred when
the noted Republican businessman, Herbert Hoover, occupied the oval office? . .
. And the Great Recession, occurring when the GOP genius GW Bush was in
charge?EVERY recession in the last 30 began while a Republican was
in the White House.The best we can hope for is that the inevitable
Trump recession isn't as devastating as the last Republican-caused economic
The economy likes a leaderless government, until the bubble bursts.
Trump may not get credit for the stock market growth in 2017, but if it adjusts
and gets back to reality in 2018 I guarantee he will be blamed for that. And he
should be, since he's not asking to be given credit for it. He's
claiming it. The next plane crash is his fault, too, since he's
claimed success to be his when there aren't any.
The stock market was artificially stimulated with "stimulus packages"
during the Obama years. And it's over-priced (to value) today.Trump may not get credit for the stock market growth in 2017, but if it
adjusts and gets back to reality in 2018 I guarantee he will be blamed for that.
I did not read one word about wages. I saw the word wealth and income but this
reference belongs to those who are thriving off the increased stock values.
There will never be a successful economy for now or for the future unless wages
go up. Period, end of discussion. This does not mean high priced salaries for
the 1%ers who are having a pig feast over their tax windfall. When the stock
prices go up pricing on everyday consumer products rise. Most consumers
don't own stocks. The 1040 wage earners are now paying (by higher consumer
prices) for the soon to be bubble of the stock market. The stock market is on a
feeding frenzy, coupled with the massive cash given to the Corporations as a
result of the Tax Scam of 2017. Corporations will rebuy their stocks futher
driving out the everday stock buyer. Wages have to rise and with the diminuation
of the Labor Unions there is no one on the political front willing to make that
point or the push for better dispersion of the national wealth.
My retirement portfolios gained 16% in 2017 compared to 3 to 4% during Obama
years. At this rate I'll have enough to retire comfortably 5 years earlier
than planned, how cool is that? Relaxing the job killing regulations under Obama
was critical to the economic booming we have plus the recent tax cut... the sky
is the limit! Who in his/her right mind wants to go back to the economy on life
support?Hope the never Trumper's liberals would keep their 4%
and cut out the excess 10+% to their beloved federal government
IMVHO, becuase of his and the republicans dismal performance since he was
elected there's nothing that can render Trump a second term. The nation is
so energized to be rid of the element that is destroying this country that the
repub's will take a beating in the mid-terms and
Thid. "Our booming economy is because of President Trump"Thid what was Black unemployment in 2013 and what was it in Jan. 2017? Jan.
2018?What was the stock market in July '09 and what was it in
Jan. 2017? Jan. 2018?What was unemployment rate in Jan. 2010 and
what was it in Jan. 2017? Jan. 2018 Why did job growth go down in
2018 from 2017?Double GDP growth? I want some of what you're
drinking. First three quarter average 2.7 for 2017. Two quarters of 3.2 or
so..Obama had 8 quarters of plus 3% growth.This is why you all have
no credibility. Dream about 4 to 5 per cent GDP growth if you will, job growth
that finally catches up to the Obama years, and a 30,000 Dow...but don't
lie about the past or discount it. It's facts.
@bass679: This is Obama's economy? Good luck trying to sell that one! If
the economy had turned south after the election of President Trump, like so many
on the left predicted, would you blame Obama? And the booming economy
didn't happen by magic! It happened because of correct leadership and
correct economic policies replacing Obama's failures! Now stand back and
watch our economy become the envy or the world and by 2020 federal deficits will
be in the black! America is in business, again!
@Thid BarkerDoes that mean the booming economy before Mr. Trump's
election was due to Mr. Obama?Or did it magically become due to Mr.
Trump when he was inaugurated?
@ worf"It's not about Trump! It's about the
country."You should get your hero on speed dial this morning and
remind him of this. Report back to us, OK?
Trump supporters denigrated the low unemployment rates Obama achieved, pointing
to a high rate of "underemployment". "The stats
aren't even counting those who've given up trying to find a
job!"Now under Trump, are the economic stats more truthful? Was
there an overhaul in how the unemployment rate is calculated? Will Trump take
us to a -20% unemployment rate? Or announce the "real" unemployment
rate as being 21%? (The coal miners are still waiting for their
jobs to come back.)The underlying softness in the jobs market
hasn't gone away. Uber drivers with masters degrees are still scraping
by.Economic *inequality* is the new measure of significance, as the
stock market bubble does nothing for the common man, and actually endangers the
meager economic status of many.
I am laughing hysterically. Obamas Economy? That is one of the funniest things
I have read. Obamas Economy ya right
The title of this article is "will the economy save President Trump"!
The real question is, will President Trump's successes destroy the
Democrat's chances in the midterms and 2020? Let's look at the facts:
African America unemployment is now the lowest in history! Thousands of
employees of dozens of companies are getting tax relief bonuses from their
employers! The percent GDP growth is more than double what it was under the
previous occupant of the WH. Over two million new jobs have been created in the
last year! Consumer confidence is at a two decade high, and look at the DOW! Our
economy is becoming the envy of the world! All this spells disaster for the
Democrats! That's why they are becoming irrational and silly! President
Trump is in NO danger of Mueller or any other phony "investigation"! God
bless President Trump and God bless America!
Our booming economy is because of President Trump and the liberals are livid!
The best President in my life time!
It's also worth noting that the recently passed tax bill doesn't stop
providing the tax cuts to middle class Americans until 2019 and many people
won't see their tax hike until the mid 2020's. Essentially it was
designed specifically to look good until election time and then ramp up taxes on
the poor and middle class folks.
The economy is doing fine, The only bubble in sight is the Bitcoin bubble that
has already burst. With the Tax cuts the economy is going to boom
even further. More money in every tax payer's pockets means more ability
to spend which boosts the economy, further with the corp tax cuts, companies are
going to be more willing to expand or increase wages or even cut prices on some
items. Further the impetus to take a company or it's money overseas was
just substantially reduced. In addition to the tax cuts, many expensive
regulations have also been removed cutting the costs of doing business.The left cannot admit it but the economy is booming, the Unemployment rate is
so low that employers are already having a hard time filling positions which
will push wages up as that is how companies compete for workers.Meanwhile the usual leftists repeat their false accusations of treason for
unproven allegations of something that is not a crime, let alone treason. At
this rate Trump 2020 is looking great.
It's not about Trump!It's about the country.Sad, but many folks will support politicians who would deny the birth to
millions of babies.Politicians who would take from some to give
another. This kind of theft has belittled the character and pride of the
American people. A society of beggars and whiners. This is a couple
ways to measure the character of our political leadership.
NOPE! Trump has destroyed TRUMP!Oprah for President of
the United States of America!Can you imagine Putin's face when
he has to negotiate with her? LOL!
The economy won't save Trump from treason, collusion, perjury or
obstruction. Besides, It's Obama's economy. Trump has a pattern of
claiming the accomplishments of others and denying his own failures.
Too many low-level Trump staffers have testified under penalty of perjury before
Mueller and his investigative team. This doesn't even include Trump's
personal secretary or Hope Hicks. These people risk losing not only their
professional reputations and future employment, they risk jail if they lie under
oath.Lying only complicates matters and the legal costs are
enormous. Most of these people are not wealthy. They aren't going to play
Trump's game -- they're going to tell the truth. That combined
testimony will be devastating for Trump.No matter how strong the
economy is humming, this investigation will continue throughout 2018. Each day
the picture becomes more clear. The mid-terms will be a referendum on Trump
corruption, Trump fitfulness, Trump lack of ideology, Trump cowardice, and Trump
obstruction. The results aren't going to be pretty.