Letter: Some forgotten issues with Utah's air quality

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  • Frozen Fractals Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 25, 2017 11:17 p.m.

    @No One of Consequence
    "The "little guy," just trying to make his way in the world, is caught between the developers who want to fill every square inch of the Wasatch Front valleys with businesses and people"

    This is the state in the country with the highest birth rate. Where do people expect those people to want to live? Surely a lot of them want to raise their own families here.

  • NoNamesAccepted St. George, UT
    Dec. 24, 2017 6:49 p.m.

    @pragmatistferlife: "and incentives to switch to natural gas,....is less "Nanny State" than building mass transit...why? "

    1-Thank you for admitting that the left likes to impose nanny state solutions every bit as much as the right. Nannyism isn't just found in alcohol or marriage laws, but also in demands to drive less, or live in higher density housing.

    2-My proposals are less nanny state than the demands in the article because my proposals do not expect anyone to change his lifestyle. Switching from leaded to unleaded gasoline, or from gasoline to CNG doesn't demand changes in how we live. Spending 2 extra hours a day commuting and the freedom of a car at lunchtime, or giving up private yards in favor of condo living are massive changes in personal lifestyle. The difference in effect on personal freedom is obvious.

    3-My suggestions would actually produce measurable improvements in air quality. For the same price as we've spent to put

  • No One Of Consequence West Jordan, UT
    Dec. 24, 2017 11:30 a.m.

    The "little guy," just trying to make his way in the world, is caught between the developers who want to fill every square inch of the Wasatch Front valleys with businesses and people and the air quality people who want us all to take transit, ride bikes or drive expensive vehicles with allegedly lower emissions.

    The UTA does not provide service to too many areas along the Wasatch Front. Maybe we need to limit development to a land within a quarter-mile of the nearest UTA stop.

  • Lew Elton Jeppson Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 24, 2017 10:45 a.m.

    Moreover localized industrial air pollution like with Stericycle here in North Salt Lake has not been addressed.

  • The Real Maverick Spanish Fork, UT
    Dec. 24, 2017 10:13 a.m.

    I bet we can solve our air quality problems by giving more handouts to developers and rich people, deregulate, get rid of the EPA, and attack those who buy fuel efficient cars.

    Right repubs?

  • pragmatistferlife Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 24, 2017 9:02 a.m.

    No Names...and incentives to switch to natural gas, building more nuclear rather than renewable, incent growth other than around the Wasatch Front is less "Nanny State" than building mass transit...why? Oh yea..because it was your idea.

  • Baron Scarpia Logan, UT
    Dec. 23, 2017 9:57 p.m.

    @ NoNamesAccepted

    Just some clarification: One, mass transit does take cars off the road. Steering funds from mass transit to cars only increases traffic and demand for parking, which is already a premium in most of Utah's urban areas. Frustratingly, most Utahns don't want to pay for parking -- so parking requires more government funding.

    Two, nuclear is not "cheap" -- indeed Georgia has two nuke plants under construction that are delayed and billions of dollars in cost over-runs, and rate payers/tax payers (they're the same people!) are now on the hook to get them finished. Obama stimulus instigated the projects, but the situation is now literally shutting down new nuke projects because of the realities of all the necessary subsidies to get them started and risks of their ever being switched on. Natural gas plants are cheaper, and renewable energy continues to fall in costs and will likely be the cheapest form of electricity soon (it already is in many parts of the country).

    Car emissions and wood-burning stoves are key contributors to Utah's bad air. Fixing those problems should be the priorities for government incentives.

  • george of the jungle goshen, UT
    Dec. 23, 2017 6:37 p.m.

    How long has man been around. How long will be around. I doubt anyone knows eather. We have the best scientists money can buy. So your guess is as good as mine. Sprays from jet airplanes have to stop sound waves that change weather currents should stop the whole weatherization programs all around the world needs to stop. But Baal barium and aluminum is used for a solar shield ( so they say) .

  • NoNamesAccepted St. George, UT
    Dec. 23, 2017 4:07 p.m.

    It is the demand for lifestyle changes that turns me off most. It is what turns legitimate environmental awareness into a quasi-religious bludgeon for controlling others.

    Sacrificing upwards of 2 hours a day to using mass transit rather than driving a personal car is not necessary to improving air quality, and frankly, UDOT couldn't handle the numbers if enough people actually used mass transit to actually improve air quality.

    There are several things we could do that don't require massive changes in lifestyle, and so deny the left-wing nanny-staters control.

    1-Rather than wasting more money on trains, offer incentives to convert automobiles to compressed natural gas which burns 50 to 90% cleaner.

    2-Bring down the cost of electricity (via nuclear plants) such that it is cheaper to use electric water heaters and furnaces than to use natural gas in homes.

    3-Stop encouraging growth along the Wasatch Front. Tax incentives should be used to encourage new businesses to locate in areas of the State without air quality problems. Population will follow business.

    Since these don't allow the nanny-staters to dictate to the rest of us how to live, they have little interest.

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    Dec. 23, 2017 3:51 p.m.

    "It will take the combined efforts of policymakers, regulators and businesses, as well as individual lifestyle changes, to make sure that we have fewer bad air days and that the state remains a place that tourists want to visit, businesses want to locate, and people want to live."

    Utah's policymakers, regulators and politicians are in the pocket of Big Polluters lobbyist's. It's tragic how they let them ruin our once pristine state.