Bannon's attack against Mormon missions and Mitt Romney has no moral authority

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  • Dixie Independent St George, UT
    Dec. 11, 2017 4:52 p.m.

    Bannon aside, he is what he is and is liked by many for being unafraid to utter what he believes. It is refreshing to find anyone in the political spectrum unafraid of saying something without running a focus group, ie. the Clintons.

    Romney has spent his integrity with the conservatives with his many flipflops, his habit of being willing to deal away principle for a deal, and his record of governing as a barely Republican. He wants to be our Senator--why change Orin Hatch for a 13 year younger version who will probably last for 3 terms. Let's keep Hatch if that's the choice, at least given his age, he won't be there much longer. Remember Hatch's election campaign slogan when he ran against Senator Moss was, " What do you call a Senator that has served for two terms. You call him home." Hatch promised only two terms, he is in his seventh. And considering rerunning.

    We don't need another Hatch in the form of Mitt. Let's look for a principled conservative.

  • Kodiak2014 Cedar City, UT
    Dec. 11, 2017 10:22 a.m.

    Just to lend Credence to what Rick for Truth said, I was born in 1948. Nobody I knew wanted to go to the Rice Paddies. A lot of those who were going to be drafted joined the Navy, Coast Guard or some other branch of the service and spent an extra year so they wouldn't get drafted and sent there. I served a mission at the same time as Romney, and while there the lottery was put in place. My # was 225 so I escaped the draft. My next door neighbor who served at the same time had a # of 14 and he joined the army so he could have some say in what he would be doing. A companion of mine was drafted and killed in Viet Nam so anyone that thinks that church service kept one from dying in the rice paddies has some bad information. It cracks me up every time I hear someone castigate those who did not serve as I didn't know of anyone who wanted to volunteer to be shot at. Kudos however to those who did serve in the armed forces and did so honorably.

  • Frozen Fractals Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 8, 2017 12:52 p.m.

    @L White
    Except she didn't say she forged the entire yearbook entry. She only said she added the location/date at the end which any casual glance at the entry would show that part looks like different handwriting than the rest of it.

  • L White Springville, UT
    Dec. 8, 2017 12:30 p.m.

    I wonder if Mr. Romney and all those who judged Roy Moore will apologize now that Ms. Nelson publicly admitted that she forged the yearbook entry, as reported by CNN today?

    Romney was caught on the wrong side of the Roy Moore issue. The Left was caught on the wrong side of the Roy Moore issue. I don't expect the Left to understand that we're all innocent until proven guilty, but I would hope that Romney understands that concept.

  • Bob A. Bohey Marlborough, MA
    Dec. 8, 2017 9:57 a.m.

    Mike Richards - South Jordan, Utah wrote: The mud slinging from the Deseret News does nothing to enhance its image. Surely the Deseret News has better things to do than to pretend that the accusations against Roy Moore are factual when the rest of the nation has learned that the forged yearbook signature included Moore's assistant's initials "D.A" (Delbert Adams). Adams added his initials to divorce decrees to validate Moore's stamped signature. The above is just what you want to believe. No such proof of a forged year book has been established. Please stop feeding into the low information fake news movement.

  • Bob A. Bohey Marlborough, MA
    Dec. 8, 2017 9:51 a.m.

    banliberals - Bountiful, UT wrote: Romney accusations are indefensible and below the dignity of a Utahn! We can do better than a Michigan raised, Massachusetts liberal to represent our state. Wasn't Ted Chappa Kennedy from Massachusetts? I'm not sure what point your comment is trying to make but having lived in both States, I can tell you without hesitation, that for me, Massachusetts scores higher on all aspects with regards to the quality of life, and by far, than does UT. FWIW.

  • Bob A. Bohey Marlborough, MA
    Dec. 8, 2017 9:47 a.m.

    Bannon is that architect of then candidate Trump now President Trump. So many here are put off by his message but fully throw their support behind Trump, roy Moore, etc. What kind of logic is leads to those types of choices?

  • Baron Scarpia Logan, UT
    Dec. 8, 2017 6:19 a.m.

    The Party of Lincoln -- the party that saved the Union and abolished slavery -- has in the past 30 years devolved to one singular focus and become the Party of Tax Cuts, practically at any costs.

    Most recently, it has devolved even further into the Party of Trump, Moore, and Bannon. The party will end soon...

  • vern001 Castle Rock, CO
    Dec. 7, 2017 8:16 p.m.

    For all those who say we shouldn't judge Roy Moore--can you honestly say you didn't judge Barack Obama? Or Bill Clinton? My guess is no.

    When you run for office, you are explicitly asking the voters to judge you. If they form a positive view, they'll vote for you. If they don't, they'll vote for your opponent.

    To pretend that we voters should now ignore somebody's character because we shouldn't judge is a perversion of the "Judge Not" principle. We shouldn't pass judgment on our friends, our family members, people in church, etc.

    But we absolutely should be judging candidates running for office. If we don't, then we are not doing our duty as citizens.

  • Rick for Truth Provo, UT
    Dec. 7, 2017 7:33 p.m.

    I have researched the data for the writers. Mitt Romney had a draft lottery number of 300 (3-12-47).

    The highest number ever called up for a physical was 215, and for the birth year 1947, the highest number drafted was 195.

    Romney never would have been drafted reguardless of a missionary call to France, attendance of BYU, marriage, or having children.

    Mr. Bannon’s claims are inaccurate and untrue.

  • Talltexasgal Plano, TX
    Dec. 7, 2017 4:18 p.m.

    I do not approve of what Mr. Bannon said about Mr. Romney nor do I approve of what Mr. Romney said about Mr. Moore, Donald Trump, and others. I wouldn't vote for either one. Mr. Moore deserves a day in court not a sentence pronounced in the press by those who have a public platform based on evidence that hasn't been proved. Mitt Romney isn't impressing me at all with some of the attacking things he has done in the last year. I wish he would behave better himself and leave Mr. Moore's morality to Mr. Moore, God and the courts, not the court of public opinion. I too am LDS and support the values that are taught in the Scriptures. Mr. Bannon will have to answer for himself also but not to me, the public, unless he breaks the law.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Dec. 7, 2017 2:51 p.m.

    I like Steve Bannon.... very smart and accomplished guy that often speaks the unpolished and un-politically correct truth. Don't agree with everything Bannon says but the guy is someone I always want to hear from. Bannon is 100% right about Romney and he has a point about mission service dodging the draft. We all know that it was used for that exact purpose by many during Viet Nam. I would have been one of the them had I been 19 during that time but I was in Jr. High. !! The Viet Nam war was the worst war in American history and should have never been fought. I honor those who fought. I don't dishonor those who protested or found a way to dodge the war (lds mission) so long and those same don't trash the brave soldiers who did fight.

  • J Thompson SPRINGVILLE, UT
    Dec. 7, 2017 2:26 p.m.

    Is it possible that those who lecture us on right and wrong by telling us of Trump and Moore's "ungodliness" would have us believe that Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton and Obama are "godly". Is it possible that those who selectively twist scripture to justify their hatred of Trump and Moore have forgotten the scriptural requirements for freedom in America? What is the first requirement? Isn't it that we worship Jesus Christ? So why did Obama forbid chaplains from preaching Christ to the troops? Why did Obama forbid soldiers from even having a Bible on their desks?

    Roy Moore is a devout Christian. For that the Left hates him. Trump openly worships Christ. He has singlehandedly restored Chirstmas to government. No wonder the Left hates him.

    The Left lectures us on morality even as Bill Clinton stills roams our streets, even as Harvey Weinstein, one of their chief donors, still walks freely, even as one of their Senators just resigned a few hours ago because of sexual relations, even as anti-Trump media critics were fired, even as anti-Trump Hollywood crumbles.

    What message are we really hearing from the Left? Where is their virtue?

  • David Centerville, UT
    Dec. 7, 2017 1:18 p.m.

    Mike Richards,

    Judging is a tricky topic, is it not? When you vote, are you not judging? When we determine a candidate, whether to vote for them or not, are we not judging?

    Now to put another twist on your reference to scripture in support of Trump and Moore--what does the Book of Mormon say about this land in relation to its government leaders? What does the Book of Mormon warn about if the people sustain, support, and vote for leaders who are immoral and corrupt?

  • Anti-Trump Everett, WA
    Dec. 7, 2017 1:02 p.m.

    Republicans elected Trump - along with Steve Bannon and they fully back Roy Moore.

    Sorry, Republicans no longer HAVE moral authority....

  • Mike Richards South Jordan, Utah
    Dec. 7, 2017 12:11 p.m.

    Pharisees prided themselves on their deeds. They pounded their chests and announced to the world how righteous they were. They condemned anyone who dared extend a hand of friendship to "sinners". They condemned Christ because he had compassion for "sinners". They reviled Christ and demanded that he die because of their self-worship, pretending that they were better than the master.

    Those who attack Trump, including Romney, should ask themselves why they flaunt their "worthiness" to judge others when Christ condemned those "self-appointed and self-righteous" judges.

    Did not Isaiah tell us that Kings would carry Israel? Trump is supporting Israel against the wishes of the Right and against the wishes of the Left. His critics are only building a case against themselves.

    Romney has not been appointed Trump's judge nor has he been appointed Moore's judge. His missionary service should have taught him that concept. No one commenting on this thread is righteous enough to judge anyone else, no matter how hard they pound their chest and pat themselves on the back.

  • majmajor Layton, UT
    Dec. 7, 2017 11:52 a.m.

    airnaut - Everett, WA
    Dec. 7, 2017 9:28 a.m.

    Thank you for your service in the armed forces, and mission. Strongly agree with your comment.

    Never defend the indefensible.

  • airnaut Everett, WA
    Dec. 7, 2017 9:28 a.m.

    Mike Richards --

    I served an LDS Mission
    served in the US Military.

    I also support having men and women of integrity and honor representing us in congress --
    openly supporting sexual predators or pedophiles for a party vote is what Mitt Romney was saying was NOT right for the party OR the nation.
    It's not worth selling your soul or the soul of a nation...

    Like Jeff Flake wrote --
    Principles over Party

  • casual observer Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 7, 2017 8:25 a.m.

    Esquire - Springville, UT

    "Boyd dodged the big elephant in the room. Bannon supports Trump, who evaded the draft...."

    Bill Clinton evaded the draft by going to England, another big elephant in the room that Boyd dodged.

  • Utah Girl Chronicles Eagle Mountain, UT
    Dec. 7, 2017 7:52 a.m.

    "If you're not with me, I hate you" seems to be Bannon's core principle. Utah's GOP delegation seems to be cowering in a corner, too worried about their own futures to separate themselves from Bannon's madness.

  • What in Tucket Provo, UT
    Dec. 7, 2017 6:43 a.m.

    Bannon has the facts correct. Men did die in Viet Nam while Mitt was on a mission. As for Moore as soon as I read the info was from the Wash Post I considered it suspect. And now bring it up 38 years later just before an election? Moreover some at least of the whistleblowers are also suspect, there is forgery, and likely lying. At least it appears that his sins if true are quite mild next to Bill Clinton, John Conyers, Franken,etc.

  • Fred44 Salt Lake City, Utah
    Dec. 6, 2017 9:24 p.m.

    Could you guys that say the yearbook signature is fake provide your source. Only sources I can find are Roy Moore himself or his far right surrogates on Fox and talk radio. Not exactly a convincing group.

    For some of you members of the LDS church who don't like Mitt that's fine, but go listen to what Bannon said. It was an a condemnation of every member of the LDS church who served a mission and did not go war in Vietnam. The Republicans are not your friends. Remember Mike Huckabee and the cult comments? Had the so called southern Christians voted for Romney he would have won. They however came out strong for a serial adulter and admitted groper. Why no support for Mitt, ask a southern Christian if Mormons are Christian and more often than not they will say no.

    Another proud day for our Utah delegation as they huddle in the corner afraid to use their backbone and take a stand. Their silence speaks volumes about their character.

  • louie Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Dec. 6, 2017 8:44 p.m.

    @Karen R

    If you wonder why voters in Alabama tend to embrace people that are above the law you need only follow their history.

    During the years of Jim Crow laws and beyond they have always been anti civil rights, anti woman rights, in other words, fertile ground for the GOP.

  • Karen R. Houston, TX
    Dec. 6, 2017 7:20 p.m.

    To Roy Moore supporters:

    There are nine women with allegations against him. Not just the one. Nine.

    And how does Moore, who was twice removed from the bench for refusing to abide by the rule of law, get off the hook with the "rule of law" loving crowd?

    I think some conservatives have a lot more in common with the Clintons than they care to admit.

  • David Centerville, UT
    Dec. 6, 2017 7:01 p.m.


    I recommend you do a little research regarding the “binders of women” quote attributes to Romney. I am confident you will discover it has nothing to do with what you think.

    I again state that Bannon and Trump are morally bankrupt, visionless, weak, divisive, and unworthy of any political position or recognition. Romney, on the other hand, remains above the fray and deserving of our support.

    Don’t let undeserved loyalty to party compromise moral values and standards.

  • suzyk#1 Mount Pleasant, UT
    Dec. 6, 2017 6:05 p.m.

    Mitt Romney has shown through his many years of being the public eye that he is one to be trusted, he loves and supports our Veterans, he an honest and faithful husband, father and grandfather and he loves our USA. He is a shining example of character traits, honesty and trust. He is not perfect as none of us are not perfect but he loves this our United States of America.

  • Hamburger raymond, WA
    Dec. 6, 2017 5:12 p.m.

    It's ignorant to equate working for the military to actually volunteering to serve on a mission. Everyone who serves in the military is paid from day one, while those serving missions pay from day one. Signing up for the military is a job opportunity, while serving a mission is doing God's work.

  • SLars Provo, UT
    Dec. 6, 2017 5:10 p.m.

    And just who is qualified to decide who has the moral authority?

    Until Roy Moore is put on trial and found guilty, is it an issue?

  • eastcoastcoug Danbury, CT
    Dec. 6, 2017 4:28 p.m.

    @Mike Richards,

    FYI - I don't watch CNN. I believe the 9 women.

    I'm a Conservative. I think it's far worse to have a pedophile in office than to lose to a Democrat. Conservatism isn't worth a thing if it's based on Hypocrisy.

    Principle over Party.

    Conyers is out. Franken is out. Entertainers have already been ousted. Time for Trump and Moore to pay for their sexual sins.

  • Gildas LOGAN, UT
    Dec. 6, 2017 4:27 p.m.

    I am afraid we 'Mormons' are turning a lot of people off us - with such naive (at best) views about the alleged superiority of a man (M. Romney) who is so quick to judge another without (actually) credible evidence. I have actually been following the case of Roy Moore and his accusers and the more I examine the 'evidence' the more I believe Mr Moore is innocent of things of which he is accused.

    I would also draw the attention of those professing the 'Mormon' faith (my own faith) that the Book of Mormon states quite plainly: the same that judgeth rashly shall be judged rashly again; for according to his works shall his wages be. ... Mormon 8:19

    That which you apply to Mr Bannon also applies to you. There will be a day of reckoning for all of us.

  • Frank K Phoenix, AZ
    Dec. 6, 2017 4:23 p.m.

    We need to keep in mind that we'll have the Trump-Bannon ticket for another four years, four years of insults. This is a time to think hard who we are and who we want to have as our President in four years. It will be difficult to undo all the harm to the environment, reverse the tax cuts to the billionaires and restore the respect of women and minorities for the GOP but it can be done. I reject Trump and Bannon's rhetoric but again, we Americans, have to take responsibility for having given the presidency to them.

  • Nephiwon Crown Point Essex, NY
    Dec. 6, 2017 4:22 p.m.

    Trump had divided the LDS. Both Mitt and Hatch are faithful members but disagree on Trump. Trump isn't impressive. He attacks anyone who disagrees with him. Everything Mitt touches turns to gold. He is totally successfull and a man of high integrity. He raised 5 sons who have turned out good. A remarkable accomplishment. I am forever a Romney man. Bannon is highly suspectable. Look at their records. Nothing else to say.

  • 10CC Bountiful, UT
    Dec. 6, 2017 3:36 p.m.

    Bannon doesn't have the moral authority to say what he did about Romney and Mormons.

    But Utah Republicans have themselves abdicated moral authority in how they've become beholden to Trump, or refuse to condemn him, such as Orrin Hatch becoming a devoted follower, and Mike Lee awkwardly avoiding any hint of criticism of Trump - who is Bannon's political soulmate.

    Prime example: the love fest right here in Utah on Monday.

  • Mike Richards South Jordan, Utah
    Dec. 6, 2017 3:18 p.m.


    So, I should believe CNN? I should believe a woman who lied about having seen Moore in his divorce court? I should believe a noted Democrat lawyer just before an important Senate race, when handwriting experts told us that the yearbook entry was CLEARLY a forgery? At least you got one thing right. Moore was the Assistant District Attorney at the time of the alleged incident. At no time has he ever signed his name "Roy Moore, D.A.".

    Believe whomever you wish. As Lincoln told us, you can fool some of the people all of the time . . . With only one seat in the Senate separating the parties, I choose to believe that the Democrats are desperate enough to say anything to gain power. When Democrats get serious about prosecuting all of their own sex offenders, starting with Clinton, then maybe we can trust them. Until then, None of their claims should be believed.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    Dec. 6, 2017 2:58 p.m.

    Boyd dodged the big elephant in the room. Bannon supports Trump, who evaded the draft with phony bone spurs, which happened to heal whenever he got a deferment, yet he condemns Romney for providing service for 2 1/2 years in France. What hypocrisy! Trust me, Mormons, Trump and his team don't really like you (us). Don't be fooled. They are not your friends.

    @ Unreconstructed Reb, I agree completely. Silence when convenient, offended when dragged into it. No profile in courage there....

    @ Mike Richards, that's so far out of touch with the facts and reality that your position can't be given any credibility. Roy Moore is bad, bad news.

  • Maximus Meridius Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 6, 2017 2:55 p.m.

    Bannon needs to know that there are many many LDS folks that have done both in terms of service to their church and their country. I have two nephews that graduated from West Point, served two year LDS missions, and fought in both Iraq and Afghanistan for 8 years. The two activities are certainly not mutually exclusive.

  • Unreconstructed Reb Chantilly, VA
    Dec. 6, 2017 2:40 p.m.

    Steve Bannon was very clearly dog-whistling about Mormons in the heart of the Bible Belt, and I'm happy that the DN is taking him to task for it.

    But what about all the other things Steve Bannon espouses that should be disturbing and dangerous to all thoughtful Americans? Why is it that Mormons only take a firm stand when it's our own ox getting gored? Why give him a pass until now?

    Our general passivity towards (and among too many of us even outright support for) Bannon's agenda is deeply disappointing.

  • casual observer Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 6, 2017 2:33 p.m.

    The definition of irony - campaigning for Roy Moore and accusing Romney of having no moral authority. Name the topic and Mr. Bannon makes it easy to pick the side opposite his.

  • eastcoastcoug Danbury, CT
    Dec. 6, 2017 2:30 p.m.


    '...when the rest of the nation has learned that the forged yearbook signature included Moore's assistant's initials'.

    At least that part of the nation who reads Bannon's Breitbart news. 'DA' stands for District Attorney (he was the assistant DA) and it's part of someone's signature, especially one trying to impress a HS girl.

    More importantly, five women have accused Moore plus police and other townspeople who knew Moore hung out at the Mall looking for young girls. What is more suspicious is the stubborn defense of a sexual predator and acting like we will be taken over by Communist agents if we vote in a Democrat. Bannon and his cabal should have thought about that and vetted their candidate better.

  • nonceleb Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 6, 2017 2:28 p.m.

    What a bigoted hypocrite. I had deferments for 6 years with attendance at the University of Utah and an LDS mission. I was not trying to hide behind anything. I was planning on doing both long before the Vietnam War draft was instituted. And how about Bannon's hero Trump, who used student deferments and a dubious medical deferment. He was hiding behind alleged bone spurs, while he was actively playing basketball, tennis, and squash at the time.

  • banliberals Bountiful, UT
    Dec. 6, 2017 2:23 p.m.

    @David....He is not abusive, loud, abnoxious, repulsive, ignorant, or dangerous. That would be Bannon and Trump.

    Neither Bannon or Trump have binders of women, unlike was alleged of Romney during his failed campaign to oust the worst POTUS in history!

  • eastcoastcoug Danbury, CT
    Dec. 6, 2017 2:11 p.m.


    As a Conservative, Romney's accusations are exactly what Utah and the USA need. Anyone who doesn't call out a Child Molester is not doing his Human or Christian duty. We should never stay silent, and to do so for political reasons is pure hypocrisy.

    And what about the value of military service? Bannon led the Alabama GOP to denounce John McCain who spent 7 years as a Vietnamese POW.

    Now we are supposed to accept that military service overrides all other moral conduct (I'm not sure how it exonerates child molestation). Could John McCain be forgiven of denouncing Trump because he was a POW?

    I'm sick and tired of moral equivocating over politics. Our morals and values mean nothing if we don't stand up for what is right. Child molestation is wrong and disqualifies anyone from serving in office. How dare we suggest anything otherwise!

    Btw, I don't care for a lot of liberal philosophies but in this country, we 'ban' no one.

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    Dec. 6, 2017 2:05 p.m.

    "Society must not let the likes of Steve Bannon or Roy Moore define “honor and integrity.”

    Oh. So now, after supporting Trump and Trump's supporters, NOW you have the guts to call out Bannon? As long as he was railing against muslims, blacks and hispanics, he was OK? But, I guess the line in the sand is attacking a mormon.

  • Mike Richards South Jordan, Utah
    Dec. 6, 2017 2:01 p.m.

    The mud slinging from the Deseret News does nothing to enhance its image. Surely the Deseret News has better things to do than to pretend that the accusations against Roy Moore are factual when the rest of the nation has learned that the forged yearbook signature included Moore's assistant's initials "D.A" (Delbert Adams). Adams added his initials to divorce decrees to validate Moore's stamped signature. Ms. Nelson, who "produced" the yearbook, and who claimed that she had no contact with Moore since the alleged incident, had Moore as the Judge in her divorce. She had his stamped signature along with Delbert Adams' initials in her possession. Moore NEVER signed that yearbook, yet the Deseret News editorial has declared him guilty. Why? Where is the verdict? When was a trial held? Since when is a person guilty when a political opponent "produces" a fake entry in a yearbook?

    So what if Romney finds fault with Trump? Why should Utah care about the former Governor of Massachusetts says? If he wants to play Hillary's game to get elected to the Senate, then he is just another politician who will claim fidelity to a State just to get elected.

  • David Centerville, UT
    Dec. 6, 2017 1:53 p.m.


    Romney is widely and almost universally recognized as moral, intelligent, fair, balance, moderate, wise, a great man and a great leader.

    He is not abusive, loud, abnoxious, repulsive, ignorant, or dangerous. That would be Bannon and Trump.

  • Mona Portland, OR
    Dec. 6, 2017 1:34 p.m.

    Well said.

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 6, 2017 1:15 p.m.

    This political season is mind-numbing. We just had a Republican love-in at the Capitol where most of the Republican delegation (and all Mormon) celebrated Donald Trump's latest good deed (presumably) for Utah. But we also have Trump's wing man denigrating Mormonism. It's nuts.

    BTW, Bannon is a proto-fascist and extremely dangerous IMHO.

  • banliberals Bountiful, UT
    Dec. 6, 2017 1:09 p.m.

    Romney accusations are indefensible and below the dignity of a Utahn! We can do better than a Michigan raised, Massachusetts liberal to represent our state. Wasn't Ted Chappa Kennedy from Massachusetts?

  • burningblue Provo, UT
    Dec. 6, 2017 1:07 p.m.

    Bannon's hateful rhetoric is a stain on our society. His assertion that Mitt Romney does not have character has about as much validity as a pig looking at a horse and calling it dirty because it has mud on its hooves. Bannon is exactly the kind of man that creates a culture in which abuse is accepted. There is no room for his rhetoric in our society. I don't care if you're democrat or republican, but this man has no place in either party. Any endorsement by him should be a red flag on any potential political candidate.

  • majmajor Layton, UT
    Dec. 6, 2017 1:01 p.m.

    The fact is that Utah is #53 of 55 states and territories in per capita service in the US Armed Forces. So, those individuals that join the military are a breed-far-above-the-rest. Military service isn't for everyone, and only about the top-30% (physical, mental, medical..) of the US population qualifies to join.

    Bannon is a narrow-minded bigoted individual that can't think past his most current comment. He says the education deferments in the draft is arguable, but LDS missions are indefensible? Religious freedom is written in the constitution, but education deferments are NOT "rights." Religious conviction has a higher priority than education any day (per the US Constitution).

    As a 3rd-generation Army volunteer, I see a two-years of religious deferment as more honorable SERVICE, then the 7+ years of education deferments the dump-Trump was given.

    Bannon needs to go back to school.