Frankly, outside of the playoff games, most bowl games aren't even worth
watching. I watch maybe one or two games outside of the playoff--and I think
most college football fans are a lot like me. Where is the excitement or
entertainment value of watching two 6-6 teams go at it in some non-descript bowl
game with a stadium that is two-thirds empty? (Keep the cameras on the field so
as not to show hardly any spectators bothered to show up.)Also
frankly, an expanded playoff to 8, 16, and maybe even 24 teams is a huge
money-maker, and most of the new money will actually go to the Power 5
conferences. College Football is definitely a business now. But, politics,
pride, and greed actually are getting in the way of maximizing the business
model. ESPN and Fox Sports, and yes, universities themselves should be pushing
for an expanded playoff to get more revenue for public schools whose athletics
programs are currently dripping with red ink.
@Tomahawk Red. @estudiante, and others.Agree with you all. Everyone
knows 16 teams is the way to insure fairness. But, without saying it, Robinson
is just saying 8 teams is the next step toward fairness, and settling it on the
field and not by some vote in a hotel conference room. @Robert
Johnson.The amazing thing is that at lower levels of college football
(D2), they play a 24 team playoff during the months of November and December,
and still manage to get their studies done. Where is the outcry against those
demanding athletic schedules? Hint: There is none, because student-athletes at
the D2 level just deal with it, and actually thrive while being a student and an
While I agree with you Doug, that an 8 team playoff is needed....what you miss
in your article are two things: First, unlike pros, these kids have final exams
inDecember so you cant just schedule games all through Decembef as you suggest.
Second, you wouldntvneed to do that anyway. An 8 team playoff only adds one
game to the schedule.
Lost in this Alabama v Ohio State debate is the fact both should have been in,
and Oklahoma should have been left out.College football should
reduce the number of games played by one or two (or even three). Then go to a
sixteen-team playoff beginning the first Saturday of December. This year it
would be:16 Virginia Tech at 2 Georgia, 12 Southern California at 8
Auburn, 14 Texas Christian at 3 Alabama, 10 Notre Dame at 6 Wisconsin.13 Miami-Florida at 1 Clemson, 11 Washington at 7 Penn State, 15 Stanford at 4
Ohio State, 9 Central Florida at 5 Oklahoma.
From a political stand point the next step could be 16 team playoff. Cancel
Conference Championship games, take 10 P-5 Division champs (Yes all P-5s
required to be 12 teams. 14 better, more equal) and next 6 highest ranked teams.
This would add 1 more game in mid-December. This way all the P-5s should be
happy. After the last two seasons Conference Championship games are not worth
much. Love the college game even with all the mumbo jumbo political stuff going
I've pitched this before and I really think this is the best model:16 teams -- every single P5 and G5 conference champion and six at large
spots. The first two rounds are played at home campus sites and the final four
at some designated location.This year, that would've included
the champs: UCF, Clemson, Ohio State, Okla, Florida Atlantic, Toledo, Boise,
USC, Georgia and Troy -- and, say, six wild cards like Alabama, Wisconsin, Penn
State, Miami, Washington and Memphis.Look at the first round
matchups: (1) Clemson vs (16) Memphis, (2) Georgia vs (15) Miami, (3) Okla vs
(14) Penn State, (4) Ohio State vs (13) Washington, (5) USC vs (12) Wisconsin,
(6) UCF vs (11) Alabama, (7) Boise vs (10) Troy, (8) FAU vs (10) Toledo.That would be fun.
I would not be happy if I was an Ohio State fan. It's clear the committee
doesn't value conference titles. This is the second straight year a team
failed to win its league but got in anyway.Everyone in the room
knows why... the committee went, "but they're BAMA!"Cuz
it certainly couldn't have been anything else. They had the
worst resume (by far) of any of the near teams like OSU and USC. No quality
wins, no SEC title, no title game appearance, bad SOS, bad SOR, baaad loss to
Auburn -- and yet, the committee sez: "Hey Bama, you're IN!!!"It's an irrefutable fact that had any other team from outside the
SEC done the same thing, they would've been shut out.Oh and
here's another data point they used to take the tide: "Hey guys... Bama
vs Clemson PART THREE!!!"Don't even try to argue that
didn't factor in.The committee is one big pathetic joke.When you get picked for the playoff based on that one criteria alone,
the system proves itself biased and busted.
Watch Alabama win the whole thing. Then we're really in trouble.
Doug Robinson "Last year’s playoff teams collected $6 million to be
divided by their conferences. That means the SEC will divide $12
million."I'm sure the PAC12 appreciates that you're
looking out for them by suggesting they get an automatic seat in the playoffs.
But as far as the money... they divide up the revenue from ALL the bowl games.
Last year the PAC got $69 million and the SEC got $71 million. SEC's extra
spot in a NY bowl means $428 thousand per team. Nice, but not a vast difference
Why is there such focus on a National Champ? Enjoy the bowl games and get rid
of the playoff. If the AP wants to crown a champion, let'em..nobody cares.
I'll add my two cents: it isn't fair...college football is a sham, but
let's face it, it always has been. It is the only sport where a real
tournament doesn't exist to determine it's champion (and no, 4 teams
isn't a "playoff"...it's a mini-series at best). I'm
speaking as a fan of a team that actually got in the CFP, but I'm under no
delusions that it's ever been fair.
Simply put it is a far better argument on who belongs at the 8-9 level than the
4-5 level just like it is a better argument at 4-5 level than it was at the 2-3
level./And BYUs 'championship' is meaningless. //boom
College football will never be fair since there's no easy way to include
all teams. And including Alabama in the final 4 this season will just kill off
the current iteration of Bowl Coalition/BCS/Playoff. If they really had cared
they would have picked someone from the Big10 or Pac12 or even better yet UCF.
Why NOT include the undefeated team?
UCF is still undefeated, the only school that is, and subjectively stuck at #12.
Here’s hoping the championship game doesn’t include the SEC.
“...56th according to the Sagarin ratings.”There are at
least 6-12 teams more deserving than Alabama this season. Alabama
‘hid within there own conference’ this season and it’s not
uncommon for other teams in the SEC to do the same year after year. So
I’ll go ahead and pile on. Here is a closer look at
Alabama’s resume.12 game schedule:8 home gamesOnly 8 conference gamesPlayed Mercer 3rd week of NovemberBest out of conference game was Florida State (6-6) or perhaps Fresno
State. No conference championship gameThey played the
bottom 4 teams (Miss, Vanderbilt, Tennessee, Arkansas) of the 14 team league -
none have a winning record. They essentially played 8 cupcakes. Best
2 wins, and they struggled, were Mississippi State and LSU. LSU lost to Troy.
3rd best win was Texas A&M who couldn’t beet UCLA. In contrast, Ohio State played 9 conference games, 1 conference
championship game and Oklahoma. You are right Doug. Alabama was
reworded for sitting on the couch.
First, The 4-Team Play-off was always designed to be a good-old-boys club that
was exclusive, not inclusive. Otherwise it would have been 8 teams, 5 going to
the P-5 conferences and 3 available for G-5, strong P-5 and on any certain year,
an independent if they had a great team. That was never the goal, settle the NC
with a fair play-off; it's "Keep All The Marbles For Ourselves."
Second, Ohio State LOST TWO GAMES...they didn't deserve to be
chosen. Hardly!! Rule #1 is DO NOT lose. Third, It doesn't
take much effort for the committee to look like they are making questionable
decisions based on weird criteria instead of the results on the field; they do
that all by themselves without any outside help, because they are using a flawed
model. Pretty funny that two P-5 conferences are left out (the BIG10 would have
made it if Wisconsin had defeated Ohio State, but they didn't; PAC12 was
weak) and have to "settle for NY6 bowl games." It's almost
hilarious contemplating what mess the committee will produce every year from
their "exclusive" little fraternity where not everyone can be
satisfied.Fourth, You can't "make sense (again)" out of
senseless parameters or situations.
You correct Doug, it's huge mess and so incestuous as to have no
integrity. It's driven by a few Schools that contain all the power and
decision making. Pathetic and I'm really dislike Ohio state, but fair is