God and guns: Texas pastors undergo security training a month after Sutherland Springs massacre

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  • Karen R. Houston, TX
    Dec. 7, 2017 5:28 a.m.

    @ Hutterite

    "It's always interesting that they see the need to 'gun up' instead of seeing the irony of the situation."

    Another irony: That some bristled at Obama's "clinging to their guns and religion" comment. As if there isn't a lot of truth there...

  • Thomas Jefferson Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Dec. 6, 2017 9:56 a.m.

    Brings a whole new meaning to turning the other cheek. But I am sure you have your excuses.

  • Thid Barker Victor, ID
    Dec. 6, 2017 7:01 a.m.

    In so many situations, as we have seen and will continue to see, there are only two options; defend yourself with a gun or be shot with a gun that no law can prevent! Since the average response time for the police to arrive is about 20 minutes, a gun in my hand is better than a cop on the phone! The only alternative is to disarm and be a victim! Like these churches, not everyone chooses to be a victim! Good on them! It will make them less of an easy target for criminals with guns!

  • NoNamesAccepted St. George, UT
    Dec. 5, 2017 10:02 p.m.

    Some seem to think it is better to wait for police with guns to show up than to have the means of self defense on hand. One wonders if such folks are consistent enough to oppose fire extinguishers, first aid kits, and AEDs rather than waiting for the pros to show up.

    Violent, anti-religious bigots will occasionally target a church for horrible violence. The risk is low, but real. There is nothing untoward about churches implementing plans to provide for security.

    Given some of the horrible and nasty comments routinely directed toward churches, one might wonder if there are those who want churches and church members to be easy, defenseless, victims rather than being able to defend themselves and their rights to worship freely.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Dec. 5, 2017 9:52 p.m.

    It's always interesting that they see the need to 'gun up' instead of seeing the irony of the situation.
    I guess it's all in where your priorities lay.