Letter: What's the rush to develop Point of the Mountain?

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  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Dec. 6, 2017 11:22 a.m.

    @Impartial (name is a hoot btw).
    RE: "Are you politicians and developers afraid people will see what you're up to and who profits"...

    The process has actually been very open. You can listen to recordings or read minutes from every Prison Relocation meeting online. Google it. It's on the State website.

    It will be obvious which developers benefit. It will be the developers who buy that land (when the prison moves). That's still TBD. There will be a bidding process for each section of land and the developer willing to pay the most for each plot will develop it (and benefit from developing it).

    They will pay the State (not a legislator) for the land

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    RE: "Developers will profit off the backs of the taxpayers"...
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    State will make money on their land investment. Know what they paid for this land in 1950?

    Developers will profiting from doing their job (land development).

    I agree they should pay for the prison move. The money they pay the State for the land should be used to buy new land. And it should cover some of the new construction (but not all of it). Because we had to reconstruct it anyway. We were going to rebuild it whether location changed or not.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Dec. 6, 2017 11:00 a.m.

    @Jl - 8:14
    RE: "I see where the approach to high tech development is out because Utah cannot fill education requirements"...
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    Baloney.

    Have you seen the number of high tech company buildings being built on both sides of I-15 from point of the mountain to Linden?

    Obviously you are wrong. High tech development is not out. And Utah can fill it's education requirements. That's just malarky.

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    RE: "Thanks for your help Orrin, according to you and Chuck Grassly, we’d just blow it all on booze, gambling and wild women"...
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    A little over-the-top IMO. Can you show us where Orin or Grassly said that?

    Or do you just assume to be able to read their minds?

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Dec. 6, 2017 10:48 a.m.

    RE: "What's the rush to develop"...
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    Because developers are in business. They only make money when they are developing. They don't get paid to not work. They get paid to install water systems, sewage systems, roads, curb&gutter, building lots, etc. That's what developers do. That's how they make a living.

    The reason there's a rush by developers is... this is the next area where growth is happening, and one of the best areas available along the I-15 corridor. And if they don't buy the land, develop it, and re-sell it... another developer will.

    Developers are competing to buy the land, develop it, and re-sell it. That's how they make money to pay their employees and feed their families.

    The reason is not the prison. It's because this is the next big area for growth in that corridor where people want to live and work.

    They are greedy. They only pay employees and feed their family if they develop land. And they can only develop land when land is available. So this land becoming available starts the rush of developers wanting to buy, develop, and re-sell it. That's how they make their living. Like me rushing to get a contract to write software.

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Dec. 4, 2017 10:20 a.m.

    I was not in favor of the move, but since it is happening it is beholden on the local politicians to make sure this land is used to best possible use. Utah has done some excellent investment in infrastructure that will pay off in the next few years. But Utah has been really bad at master planned developments. And I hope this marks a change in how things are done.

    The idea that this area should be infield with homes is a really bad idea. Not only are homes water guzzlers, they are also a net expense to communities. The individual household rarely covers its fully loaded cost to a community - businesses are what fill in the gap. If this area were to backfill with endless urban sprawl, the cost to the citizens would be surprising. Schools, public safety, roads, etc... Planners need to be real careful they create a livable and workable environment.

  • airnaut Everett, WA
    Dec. 4, 2017 10:13 a.m.

    Letter: What's the rush to develop Point of the Mountain?

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  • Opinionated Sandy, UT
    Dec. 4, 2017 8:21 a.m.

    I say the taxpayers should not pay a dime for the new prison or relocation expenses. The cost of the current prison land should be such as to pay all those costs.

  • What in Tucket Provo, UT
    Dec. 4, 2017 8:18 a.m.

    Utah does indeed need to address the water situation. We live in a desert. More water could come from converting farm land to drip irrigation as that could save a lot of water. Agriculture takes 80& of irrigation water. Waste water of which we reuse less than 1% could also be used.
    It would be nice to say no more apartments or factories or businesses. That won't happen.

  • Jl Sandy, UT
    Dec. 4, 2017 8:14 a.m.

    I see where the approach to a high tech development is out because Utah cannot fill education requirements. Republican tax policy won’t help you with education so that means we’ll soon see another property tax bump. Thanks for your help Orrin, according to you and Chuck Grassly, we’d just blow it all on booze, gambling and wild women.

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    Dec. 4, 2017 7:55 a.m.

    "Are you politicians and developers afraid people will see what you're up to and who profits by it and want to have an actual voice in the process?"

    Yes. And Yes. But, you don't need an "and" in that sentence. Our politicians ARE the developers that will profit off the backs of the taxpayers.

  • EPJ Grantsville, UT
    Dec. 4, 2017 6:39 a.m.

    Exactly, Michael–but I think you meant to write "politicians/developers".