patriot -"Wish I could meet this president. I would stand in
line for hours. Great man!! Honor to have him in Utah".The good
news is the line will not be very long! Furthermore."Great
men" mock the disabled?"Great men" are misogynistic?"Great men" engage in ongoing bigotry?"Great men" attack
members of their own presidential cabinet?"Great men" send out
Tweets which could begin nuclear proliferation in a very unstable area?"Great men" constantly attack the media?"Great men"
question the origin of birth of previous presidents when they have apologized
for this ridiculous claim in the past? "Great men" make statements
regarding possibly dating their daughter? "Great men" openly brag
about sexual assault?"Great men" use racial slurs?"Great
men" file numerous bankruptcies?"Great men" have approval
ratings between 33%-38%, which are declining hourly? Guess again
comrade! We obviously have quite the difference in opinion regarding what truly
constitutes a "Great man". It is absolutely none of the above regardless
of the frivolous spin and the screaming of "fake news" in order to
distort factual information. Country before party! Thank you and Happy Holidays!
@rifleman"Your obvious error makes people wonder if there is a bias
somewhere."My post clearly states that my numbers are a yearly
average.Obama signed 276 executive orders per year across an 8 year
term, or just over 34 per year on average.Trump has signed 52
executive orders as of November of this year, putting him on pace to average 60
by years end.There's no bias in documented facts.
2 bitsYour last comment was quite entertaining as you point out that
Clinton lied about a Monica, and then go on to claim that he lied as much as
Trump?Not even in the same galaxy as the unquestioned champion of
dishonesty which seems to be wearing of on his fan club. Yes others lie and have
lied, but to compare them with Donald is laughable, He stands alone.Or that because he had an affair that is comparable to bragging about groping
women and walking in women's dressing rooms, because he a "Star"
Did Bill Clinton endorse pedophiles?He was being investigated by a GOP
pedophile (Hastert) who was paying of his victims, but that's hardly an
endorsement , is it?If Utah supports Trump, they support
Putin's agenda, how many more of Trumps close personal group will be caught
lying on disclosure forms or about Russian connections, before the GOP put
Wish I could meet this president. I would stand in line for hours. Great man!!
Honor to have him in Utah.
@GaryO - Virginia BeachRE: "It means that Utah is simpatico with the
Putin puppet"...---Yah. Utahns Love Putin...Prove
it.==RE: "Trump, the illegitimate President of the
United States"...---He's as "legitimate" as any
President ever elected.==RE: "The world's most
infamous sexual predator"...---Next to Bill Clinton.==RE: "A fraud, and pathological liar"...---Like Clinton?or Pelosi, Reid, or Schumer.Lieing
isn't unique to Trump. Or Republicans. If you open your eyes... you
would see Democrats lie, as do most politicians.Check the Fact Check
pages on the Clinton-Trump debates. They were both throwing things out that
weren't true (not just Trump).President Clinton lied.That one about never having relations with Monica Lewinski turned out to be a
real whopper... didn't it?Clinton was a lier.==RE: . . . And you think that's something to be proud of?"...---Your comments go both ways. Democrats are not pure.We
can bicker about who lied more times (Clinton or Trump) but that gets us
nowhere. Scoring on how many (like less than the other is OK).Truth
is... Trump is as honest as most Democrats.
Barker -"Anyone with a 401K should warmly greet President Trump
and thank him. The DOW hit another record high today anticipating tax
reform".Another day. Another misguided, non factual rant
praising the Supreme Leader. My assumption purely based upon your statements is
that you haven't read this tax bill once! If so you would realize it is
catastrophic for yourself and the middle class! Meanwhile the top 1% receive yet
more cuts and relief. Assure you Barker myself and family are in no need for
these cuts/relief! Possibly obtain factual information and a true understanding
of the subject matter prior to offering unwavering support to the Tweeter and
Chief. If you believe I'm mistaken simply prove it with credible, cited,
source material. Thank you and Happy Holidays!
"What Trump's visit to Utah really means"It means that
Utah is simpatico with the Putin puppet, Donald (grab 'em by the wherever)
Trump, the illegitimate President of the United States and the world's most
infamous serial sexual predator, fraud, and pathological liar.. . .
And you think that's something to be proud of ?
@DmorganRE: "With Senator Hatch's office arranging a meeting
between LDS Church leaders and President Trump, this amounts to little more than
a campaign opportunity for Orrin Hatch to again enhance the optics that the LDS
Church de facto supports the Republican Party"...---Not
really.Taking Trump to Welfare Square or meeting with church leaders
doesn't send the message that the church is defacto R.Obama met
with Church leaders when he visited Utah. It's normal.Be a
little even-handed.===@mightyhunterRE: "Fast
forward twenty yrs. Our kids and grandchildren will be out hunting. They look up
at the horizon or at the landscape an what will they see? Oil pumps, roads
pipelines and other industrial buildings".===Over-drama IMO.There are no pipelines proposed for the area.No industrial
buildings planned.I don't know of a plan for oil pumps on this
Federal land, but even if they do... they don't put them side-by-side
everywhere like you pretend.Even in most dense oil fields in Utah
(which these areas are not) pumps are not everywhere or close together.This is not the huge problem you make it out to be.It will still
be federally managed.
Pretty sure it means another discombobulated speech that wanders between
denigrating someone or some group, followed by self congratulatory
exaggerations, closing with some jingoistic threat.Seems to be the
formula for winning?
ContIt could also mean Trump is still campaigning. Democrats are
still campaigning. They seem to not know that the campaign is over, and
can't accept that Hillary lost.Some are campaign against Trump
as if the election is still pending. It's not. It's over.Or they are super-early for next Presidential election. But it's way
early to start the next campaign.I think both parties are in
constant-campaign-mode today. And so is the media. They love the action and
salaciousness of political campaigns. They would Love to keep it going.
They make money out of keeping the people interested and watching their
programming (especially their news programming). Interest and viewership is
super-high during presidential campaigns. I think they notice stuff like
that.==RE: "Utahns more than the D.C. bureaucrats
who believe they can better manage these lands from afar" (from
letter)...---James,The land that falls outside the NM after
Trump's Executive Order will still be managed by the Feds. And it was
managed by the Feds before Obama's Executive Order.Nothing much
changes either way. It was "managed from afar" before. It will be
"managed from afar" after.
RE: "What Trump's visit to Utah really means"...---I
don't know what it means for sure. Nobody knows for sure.IMO
it means at least he knows Utah exists, and Utah matters.President
Obama probably knew Utah existed, but he acted like Utah didn't matter.
He never even visited Utah until the end of his 2nd term. Not one visit to
Utah in his first term. And I think he only visited Utah at the end of his 2nd
term because someone pointed out that he hadn't visited all the States he
was President of yet. (there were only 2 left, Utah and North Dakota, and he
checked them both off his list the same month). Probably something he had on
his "to do" list the whole 8 years and just took him awhile to get
around to it (almost 8 years).Trump is visiting Utah in his first
year (instead of his last year). That's quite a contrast.So
I'm glad he knows we exist. And seems to think that we matter.===It could be he is just campaigning for Hatch's
re-election. Could be.===He could also be here because
he heard some complaints from the locals in Utah about how the Bears Ears deal
was done, and the size of both Bears Ears and Grand Staircase, compared to other
With Senator Hatch's office arranging a meeting between LDS Church leaders
and President Trump, this amounts to little more than a campaign opportunity for
Orrin Hatch to again enhance the optics that the LDS Church de facto supports
the Republican Party and should therefore support Orrin Hatch for another term.
I expect a formal re-election announcement sometime in January. The number of
editorials appearing in the Deseret News supporting Orrin Hatch are increasing.
I don't believe it's coincidence. As far as the actual rollback of the
National Monument boundaries, all it will do is keep both Grand Staircase and
Bears Ears embroiled in lawsuits for years, at unnecessary cost to taxpayers.
So what does this all mean? What will be the results? Fast forward twenty yrs or
more. Our kids and grandchildren will be out hunting. They look up at the
horizon or at the landscape an what will they see? Oil pumps, roads pipelines
and other industrial buildings or equipment. They will find elk laying on the
concrete pads.Say that won't happen? I will call you on it! Go to the Book
Cliffs and other areas, it has already begun and it will be made worse. Where we
grew up seeing the beauty of Utah or children will find industry.
" My impression from our meeting was his profound respect for fellow
Americans who fled religious persecution in the past and, against seemingly
insurmountable odds, transformed their land into a prosperous present-day
Utah."My impression is that Trump has zero respect for anybody
and is only interested in what he can get from them to increase his power or
increase his wealth.If an Evangelical politician--let's say Roy
Moore--was talking privately to Trump and made some denigrating comments about
Mormons--do you think that Trump would disagree? Seriously?
Lillie Claims: "We are suffering in Garfield County. Let us have a chance to
use the land as we have in the past. We have not destroyed our public lands like
so many areas. We want to take care of it just let us use it."Please elaborate on what jobs were stolen by declaring the monument.Be
specific, because there are more cattle/sheep permits available then are being
used inside the Staircase. School trust land was compensated with better and
more land in trade.I just stayed a what appeared to be a brand new
Hotel in Escalante, because there's no economy there?
silo - Sandy, UTYour nujbers are wrong. Obama signed a total of 44
executive orders and Trump has signed a total of 45 executive orders to date.Your obvious error makes people wonder if there is a bias somewhere.
The contributor of this article is really biased and emphasizing curtailing
government that is to be for the good and safety of society.under the current
President and the Secretaries of all Departments. The Congress is complicit as
they have waited 8 years to do something and they now have President Trump. When
the Monuments are decreased that will be a sad day for Utahns and the nation and
tourism. The environment in those areas will be impacted as corporations that
will develop the area won’ th ave the same environmental standards as The
EPA is being dismantled step by step.Senator Hatch and. Congressman
Bishop are ecstatic and can’t wait for Monday.The Senator
takes the Presidential entourage to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day
Saints to let President Trump visit the Church leaders. We already
know what he believes about women, harassment, and Mitt Romney and Senator Harry
Reid from Nevada and other good people. At least there aren’t very many
Democrats in power in Utah he can disparage except for Salt Lake City and County
where he is visiting. President Trump Supports Roy Moore.
@nonamesaccepted"Obama ruled by exec order "Obama used executive order fewer times than any president going back to Grover
Cleveland. No objective look at the number of executive orders issued by
president would remotely classify Obama as 'ruling by exec order'.In fact, actual data shows that Trump has almost doubled the rate of
executive orders that Obama had.Executive orders per yer (average),
per the national archives and whitehouse websiteObama: 34Trump: 60
Much of the state has decided to be elsewhere should Trump actually come to
Utah.Perhaps Trump could delay the Utah visit a couple of years or
forever, by simply remembering and respecting our Native American brothers and
Living in Garfield County I can tell you private land was "grabbed".
The Grandstaircase National Monument is a joke. It protects sage brush and
cedar trees. All of the important things that need protecting could be
protected in less than half what they took. All the big promises of
great paying jobs have not come about. Escalante's High School now has
less than 70 students. We are suffering in Garfield County. Let us
have a chance to use the land as we have in the past. We have not destroyed our
public lands like so many areas. We want to take care of it just let us use it.
UtahBlueDevil: Yes, I give President Trump credit! If the stock market and the
economy were tanking now, you wouldn't blame Obama, you would blame
President Trump! So, which way is it? Since the economy is growing and the stock
market is in record territory, I give credit where credit is due! Thank God for
The Feds grabbed land in the Grand Staircase that was private land. The first
lined Clinton signed of on included Bryce Valley High Schools Track, 40 acres of
farm ground, a local cemetery, and Henrieville Town's water system and
Tanks. He just said we will take what we want. We have protected
the land for years and will still do so but they took twice what they needed to
protect the land including oil wells that have worked for years. Give us a break down here and let us live too.
"Anyone with a 401K should warmly greet President Trump and thank him. The
DOW hit another record high today anticipating tax reform."You
seem to be forgetting that under Obama the down went from 8K to 19K..... you
seem to be missing that little gap. But I get it..... don't give credit
to one dude, but give credit to the other.... for what ever reasons you want to
believe. Funny.... you proclaimed Obama should get no credit for the nabbing
of Osama bin Laden, but Trump should get credit for..... what again? Is it the
R or D that makes the big difference.... or something else?Trumps
visit to Utah is purely an undo Obama campaign.... somehow reducing the size of
the federal lands to the size of federal lands is going to Make America Great
Again. Not sure how changing the name of the sign will do much, since it was
BLM managed lands, and will continue to be BLM managed lands. Just the color
of the sign at the edge will change. I'm still waiting for
someone to define to me what time Trump is trying to take us back to - when
America was supposedly greater than it is now. What is that time? Anyone?
Folks, the land in question was purchased by the Federal Government at the end
of the Mexican War in 1848. It never was owned by the State of Utah or private
individuals, there is no such thing as a Federal land grab. Private individuals
may have obtained grazing rights, but that does not mean ownership of the land
Time for the feds to keep their promises to rural, western residents. Those who
rejoice in efforts to destroy rural lifestyle shout the loudest about wanting to
preserve AmerIndian traditions and lifestyle.Obama ruled by exec
order and libs applauded. Trump can undo via exec order whatever Obama did.
You reap what you sow.
@thid Trump deserves zero credit for my or anyone’s success. I
put the work in for my success. Trump is simply taking credit for
things he had no part in.
I would like to see a similar example where a state DNC head had to write a long
op-ed defending an Obama state visit. It's telling Davis feels a need to
prop Trump up.
Mr. Evans meant what he wrote, I'm sure. I, for one, can't reconcile
the things Mr. Trump has said and done with what Mr. Evans describes. He appears
to see what he wants to see in Mr. Trump, but it doesn't have much to do
with the reality of the presidency I've experienced.
Right. Two phrases stick out like sore thumbs in this editorial:1-
My impression...2- I believe...Mr. Evans has created a whole
alternate reality about Mr. Trump...like ALL Trumpites. In truth, Mr. Trump has
such a twisted and limited understanding of anything of another culture or
history. He admits openly he doesn't read books. He's a boxing and
beauty pageant promoter. How would he possibly know anything about Utah's
values or history or Mormonism? Let's stop fooling ourselves
that we're going to have some kind of mind meld or sing cumbaya with Mr.
Trump on Temple Square. This man is anathema to most everything that people in
Utah hold dear.
Trump visiting Utah means the "greatest President Orin Hatch has ever served
under" is coming to Utah. Hatch's own words!Hatch
validates what 70% of U.S. citizens understandTrump is the face of
the Republican Party. The Republicans spawned, nurtured and now own Trump,
lock, stock and barrel. The face of the Republican Party is Trump, Bannon,
Moore and the likes. Good choice Orin, great icons for the
"Party of Family Ideals" certainly the Religeous Right.
Anyone with a 401K should warmly greet President Trump and thank him. The DOW
hit another record high today anticipating tax reform.
Means very little to most Utahans. Only the hardcore sycophants like
James are excited.James stands to make a lot more money if people
can't make ends meet because of the continued use of the failed trickle
down scam, and crashing the economy. Payday lenders are like vultures, waiting
to pick the carcasses of desperate people with no other choice. James makes a
good Conservative/Trump Party first above country.Trump represents
the GOP now, and they seem to like that?
It probably mostly means a brief but more than welcome break for many white
@ Bigger Bubba, How do the Feds grab lands they already own?
@Bigger Bubba;"Hopefully it really means an end to heavy-handed,
Democrat-driven, federal land grabs in the State of Utah."Could
you please enlighten us of the Democrat driven federal land grabs that occurred
in Utah. How about just 1? And, please use facts, not "alternative
Hopefully it really means an end to heavy-handed, Democrat-driven, federal land
grabs in the State of Utah.
With all that Trump has shown and demonstrated as a person and now as president,
I don’t think I can believe anything he says - and does - to have any
sincerity, truth or honesty. Take what he has said about Utahns at face value,
otherwise nothing he says has any real and true value. Sad!
"More to the point, I believe it is his respect for the qualities required
of a people to achieve this level of success."Trump doesn't
respect anyone and knows nothing of "work ethic". He inherited 400
million dollars. I'm sure he admires James Evans and his ability to charge
poor people 1300% interest rates. Given today's backlash from the Native
American leaders, I'm sure they can't wait to hear his plan for Bears