No amount of play makers will make up for a team that does not preform the
fundamentals and do the little things. Enough with the excuses
already! Air Force does not have the athletes and steals a game or two and is
tough almost any game. Win or lose they at least play good football and play to
their strengths. BYU played bad football from start to finish. No amount of good
players will fix the lack of focus this team had. My question is are
the coaches not use to dealing with all the head cases or were they not focused
or were there to may head cases to direct for this staffs experience level?My guess is the head coach while getting some of the tone right did not
set a mark to hold the team to that was performance based. Sad!
It won't matter a lick who the new OC is if BYU still has no playmakers on
the field. Ty was hamstrung by the fact that nobody on offense but Bushman
could make a play. When your only real threat is your tight end, it
doesn't take much to stop the offense.
It is hard to say the OC is not part of the problem with the pathetic offense
BYU had this year. That said, the overall lack of focus and improvement week
over week the program showed is set and controlled by the head coach. I don’t for one second buy this, “we don’t have the
athletes line” going around. That is hard to take when you see a team not
do the little things and work together as a team. It is not like they got beat
playing their best. I did not see this team once play their best or up to their
potential. Maybe Ty had his hands full of to many head cases that could not or
would not be coached?I Would love to see the coaches layer skills
and principles each week win or lose and see the team get better each week win
or lose. Getting better did not happen from top to bottom with this
team during the year. I would argue the offense was at best flat from week one
to the end and the D started good but got worse as the season went on. Because
of the decline of each unit as the season went on not because they lost is why
the Head Coach needs to be shown the door!
The only reason we did better last year is because we had two NFL calibre
players in Hill and Williams. Winning in college is 70% recruiting.......
Sitaki had 2-3 weeks to put his first recruiting class together and with both
recruiting classes two-thirds of them are out in the world passing out Book of
Mormon's for two years. How's that a for getting your recruits to
make a difference. We are slow as cold Tar at WR and we have an OL that has
played poor most of the year. (They are the reason our QB's have had to
run for their lives the last 4-5 years) How can any team expect to win with 4th
string QB's and RB's. Ty has had nothing to work with-------and Y
fans have Zero patience. There is a reason he suited up in the NFL for 13
years-----and it wasn't because he had a strong arm or was fast. They will turn it around------- and it will be because of recruiting great
athletes that are also fine young men....Some of them are on missions now......I
hope so bad that he is willing to stay as QB Coach.
So what is Sitake to do. His defense was average, but his offense was not just
bad, but one of the worst in all of college football. And before you say that
it was the schedule, outside of Wisconsin, LSU, Mississippi State and Boise
State we plated NOBODY. And if you blame it on the players, why is it that the
line and receivers were the same as last year. And many said Mangum was better
than Hill and should have started last year.Face it, Ty Detmer was a
great college football player. That's it. He has no body of work showing
anything else. Being an NFL back up is NOT even close to being an OC. Last year
Hill and Williams pure skill and desire alone made up for any consistent
effective offensive plan.This year continued. There was no
creativity and no pre and in game adjustments. It was a gamble to choose an
unproven person as the OC. It would ether be a bust or a success. We should not
be surprised by the result. So back to Sitake. If my job is on the
line, don't make be go down with somebody you forced on me. Let me succeed
or fail with a guy I chose. So coach Sitake, this is your one mulligan. Choose
well or a year from now it's you and Holme calling Re-Max.
It really is too bad BYU's football program has no patience, lacks true
leadership, and fails to see the real problems (just look at the press, and you
see evidence of the current culture that lacks discipline). "Attitude
(culture) reflects leadership." Leadership starts at the top. Maybe the
problem is Sitake and Detmer don't mesh, but that is a problem for the head
coach to figure out. Current coaching staff mix is more about nepotism than
merit. BYU won more games in Ty's first two years as Offensive Coordinator
than Lavell Edwards did in his first two years at BYU. And, Mike Gundy, head
coach of Oklahoma State University (his alma mater, where he played quarterback)
won less games than BYU in Ty's first two years. True the offense struggled
tremendously this year in a system that emphasizes smart reads versus scheme
& speed. The lack of discipline permeated the entire team, off the field and
on the field (most notably in the offensive line trenches). The will to win is
inspired by great coaching. The firing of Ty is a poor showing of leadership.
Hopefully, BYU hasn't lost Ty Detmer. He is one of the best things that
ever happened to the BYU football program.
So many bleeding hearts for Ty. I love the guy. I've had a lot of
interaction with him.Yet so many forget that this team could only
manage 20 points against Portland State...when the team was healthy and had all
offseason to prepare! The "lack of talent" argument is
bogus. If it were true, then BYU should not have lost to the likes of ECU, and
UMass and barely beat Portland State. BYU consistently played BELOW it's
pool of talent. That's coaching, folks.Everything wrong with
Ty's playcalling can be summed up in the 4th and 1 call against Boise
State. We were moving the ball consistently and strongly against their weakend
defense. So what does Ty dial up? A high risk, single option play to throw a
bomb downfield...using a quartback who had repeatedly demonstrated the inability
to throw a deep ball throughout the game. Ty had a consistent, uncanny ability
to outsmart himself.The ultimate error in judgement, though, rests
with Holmoe and Sitake, when they put Ty in this position, instead of hiring him
for the right job (QB Coach) in the first place.Don't believe
that we don't have better options. False. Peterson and Simmons would both
be much wiser (and seasoned) OCs.
Dumping Detmer was not the only option.If he has flaws, then fix them.He has strengths that were still born in this years perfect storm of
performance paucity.I hope that is how this happens.
Great guy.Surprised Sitake used him as the fall guy.
@patriotIowa State said the same thing two years ago when BYU was
trying to enter the Big12.------------------Iowa St
didn't say it, some students at the school did.
@Dimitri (-cont)...And if you're thinking Kalani could
fix things by letting a position coach or two go (Cahoon and/or Mahe for
example) what is that going to really change?I'm sure Ty is a
major attraction for QB recruits but how long would that be the case when
we're sporting the worst offense in D-1? Even during the Crowton years with
all the dysfunction we had on offense we were able to attract top tier talent at
QB and all the skill positions. Even the demotion of Robbie Bosco from QBC to
fundraising didn't hurt that. As for HOlmoe's scheduling,
most of these games are scheduled years in advance and he has no way of knowing
how good or bad a team will be that far in advance (look at last year's
schedule as an example, who knew Mich St would be so bad?). Sometimes it works
in our favor (last year) and sometimes it doesn't. This is the nature of
the beast in Independence. We will not have balanced schedules until we get back
into a conference.It was painfully evident that real change was
needed. You can't make an omelet w/o cracking any eggs.
@DimitriTy is the fall guy. They could have brought someone in to
help out at any point and they didn't. Ty didn't coach a single guy he
recruited and without Ty who are you going to recruit at QB? Some of the top QBs
in the nation are looking at BYU because of Ty, and now they won't. This is
a bad decision on so many levels it shows Sitaki is the problem, HOLMOE is the
problem for scheduling 6 ranked teams front loaded. This is all on Sitaki. He is
the head coach, so take responsibility, do not slough it off onto someone
else.----------------Don't even know where to
begin. Ty is still on staff as the QBC, he's just been relieved of his OC
duties. He got a tough 2 yrs to prove himself as the OC and didn't get it
done. That's the same amount of time Doman got. Whether or not he gets to
stick around longer as the QBC will be up to the new OC (most likely). Everyone wants Sitake to be responsible for the problems on offense so how do
you suppose he does that? By sitting idly by and doing nothing? Then crazy
unrealistic fans will scream he's not doing anything.
Juicebox from Eureka, UT...you're dead wrong. If you think Detmer was the
problem, you're smoking some major 420. The problem lies in other places
besides the offensive coordinator. This is the AD's and the head
coache's problem much before the OC.
Detmer could have done better.But that isn't the issue for me.
Continuity is. BYU has to have coaches that build from the inside and are built
from the inside with people who are loyal, committed to the school and stay when
more lucrative opportunities beckon.I see Detmer as the future. Groom him
now as quarterback coach, let him mature with less pressure and scrutiny. If he
gets bumped out of the program all together I'll be disgusted.
He managed one of the worst offenses in college football, mismanaged a promising
QB, didn't recognize the need to fix issues at receiver and line. He
didn't know what he was doing.Pretty much anyone could do
better. This was a smart move. He should gain more experience as a college
football coach first before he gets an OC position. He jumped in too early.
Robert Anae's offense was so much better than Ty Detmer's offense that
it isn't even funny. No logic would ever lead you to keep him.
There is nobody better that BYU could ever get than Ty Detmer. I think Tom
Holmoe and Sitaki both know that. The problem is perception. You have a 4 win
season you have to show that you are trying to fix things and so you fire
somebody. I think especially in BYU's case the clock is ticking on
athletics in general and I suspect it is well understood that BYU won't be
in the NCAA much longer. A school of faith that refuses to compromise its honor
code and Christian values has no place in modern NCAA programs. The NCAA is all
PC and if you doubt me check out what the PAC12 said about BYU a few years ago
regarding Prop 8 and that disqualifies BYU for ever entering the PAC12. Iowa
State said the same thing two years ago when BYU was trying to enter the Big12.
Public colleges across America are nearly all anti-Christian and PC as well as
anti-free speech as we have seen in Berkley this past year and if you don't
surrender your standards to the PC police in the NCAA you can expect to be shut
out ...as BYU is now. So BYU knows the clock is ticking and its time in the
NCAA is coming to an end anyway. Good for BYU for standing up for values over
Ty is the fall guy. They could have brought someone in to help out at any point
and they didn't. Ty didn't coach a single guy he recruited and without
Ty who are you going to recruit at QB? Some of the top QBs in the nation are
looking at BYU because of Ty, and now they won't. This is a bad decision on
so many levels it shows Sitaki is the problem, HOLMOE is the problem for
scheduling 6 ranked teams front loaded. This is all on Sitaki. He is the head
coach, so take responsibility, do not slough it off onto someone else. Ok, this
year, no donation to Cougar Club. Maybe never again.