Analysis: 6 things we learned from BYU basketball's win over Princeton

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  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Nov. 18, 2017 12:25 p.m.

    "I assume you are hanging your comment on the exhibition factor/not counting???"

    OldBNStupid:

    Uh, yeah! Since when is a glorified practice something to get all excited about?

  • Pro-Scout Modesto, CA
    Nov. 17, 2017 6:02 p.m.

    Addressing the Cougars' big man dilemma: Payton Startup is 6'10 & 250 lbs., Ryan Andrus is 6'11" & 240 lbs., and Luke Worthington is 6'10" & 235 lbs. Next comes the 2nd-tier of Yoeli Childs at 6'8" & 225 lbs., D. Nixon & Z. Seljas are 6'7" & 215 lbs., and Braided Shaw is 6'9" & 210 lbs. The 3rd-tier is E. Bryant at 6'5" & 210 lbs., R. Bergersen at 6'6" & 200 lbs., and K. Brown is 6'5" & 200 lbs. Everyone else upon the roster is substantially less than 200 lbs. or the 6'8" & 6'9" which usually separates a forward from a guard. Examples for thought: one of the tallest NBA guards was Ervin Magic Johnson at 6'9" & 215 lbs., while one of the heavier NBA centers was Shaquille O'Neil who is 7'1" & 325 lbs.

  • Pro-Scout Modesto, CA
    Nov. 17, 2017 5:21 p.m.

    Hahahaha, I am enjoying everyone's comments! Thanks, Jafe Peaver, for a good article. The historical big men that BYU achieves to sign for its roster are generally lightweight bodies compared unto the "elite" basketball programs in the NCAA. Coach Dave Rose tends to strive to created a more perfected program from y-to-y. Although, his 4-guard offensive plans are a weakness against teams which excel in the paint; however, his reputation to win out at the mid-tier level is gaining repute. Thanks to upset victories against Gonzaga Bulldogs. Yoeli Child's presence inside the key is very good, yet BYU has P. Dastrup who sports 250 lbs. of body weight. Also, anyone player at 6'10" or 6'11" usual is capable of competing w/ ballplayers at 7'0" - 7'3" excepting less body weight can get a Cougar into foul trouble while banging around. These 2017-8 BYU Cougars go out and convert over 20 FT's at a 90+%. Congratulations, Cougars for a well deserved win at Princeton! You shot high conversion %'s upon FG attempts a-w-a your FT attempts, that which your opponent desperately needed! Good going Coach Rose, it is an indication of things to come for this season of basketball.

  • idablu Idaho Falls, ID
    Nov. 17, 2017 10:25 a.m.

    It is disconcerting that BYU got severely out rebounded by a smaller team. It appears that besides Bryant the rest of the team is content to just let Child’s do all the work around the boards. I know offensively, everyone is posted around the arc while Childs is the only one mixing it up in the key. I know Haws is such a feather and so “scoring-centric” he’s pretty ineffective as a rebounder.

  • Juice Box Eureka, UT
    Nov. 17, 2017 8:58 a.m.

    The Blue Side - Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 16, 2017 6:27 p.m.

    "Mightymite, It is easy to see that you are a ute. Princeton is a good team and will prove it again this season. Let's see what happens when U come to the Y on Dec. 16. BYU by 8 and you can take it to the bank Chrissy B."

    BYU fans say this stuff every year, both in football and basketball. It's not really a challenge anymore. BTW Princeton has a really low Sagarin ranking. Not something to be bragging about.

  • kfbob Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 17, 2017 6:38 a.m.

    This is definitely a game that BYU would have lost in the past. Encouraging that Schroyer has brought mental toughness and defense to the program. Discouraging the previous staff couldn't see the problem and had to bring in an assistant to fix the obvious.

  • The Blue Side Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 16, 2017 6:27 p.m.

    Mightymite, It is easy to see that you are a ute. Princeton is a good team and will prove it again this season. Let's see what happens when U come to the Y on Dec. 16. BYU by 8 and you can take it to the bank Chrissy B.

  • mightymite , 00
    Nov. 16, 2017 5:26 p.m.

    One thing learned is the tigers are not a very good team. Other then that we got what we thought we would get out of the cougars. It is going to be a tough winter to be a cougar faithful.

  • BleedingBlue Provo, UT
    Nov. 16, 2017 3:30 p.m.

    This story shows but dose not mention the big missing elephant in the room. BYU does not have that big man, 7+ footer on the court. BYU is getting killed on the boards. Once BYU goes up against a team with one, well, can you say 20 and 30 point defeats. Rose just has to go all out and recruit a quality center if BYU is ever going to make the jump from NIT wonder boys to being competitive in the big dance. Time to broaden the search to Europe, Africa, Australia, even South America. This should be coach Rose’s number one priority.

  • Old But Not Stupid Moorpark, CA
    Nov. 16, 2017 1:56 p.m.

    uhhh, Spokane, they beat New Mexico by 5 or 6 in the exhibition to raise funds for the Houston hurricane...

    I assume you are hanging your comment on the exhibition factor/not counting???

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Nov. 16, 2017 1:47 p.m.

    Steve

    The haven't played New Mexico; the only other game was a blow out win at home against Mississippi Valley State.

  • steve24/7 Sandy, UT
    Nov. 16, 2017 1:22 p.m.

    "BYU passed its first real road test of the 2017-18 season..."

    I thought they already did that when they beat New Mexico at the pit in front of a larger and more hostile crowd??

  • Swan Ronson St. Louis, MO
    Nov. 16, 2017 10:36 a.m.

    They've "increased their emphasis on defense"? Well . . I'm picking on the phrasing here, but you can't "increase" something that didn't exist before. It was hard for me to accept that they were as flat-out awful on that end of the floor last year.

    I'm generally a Dave Rose fan, but that's on him, and it was inexcusable. No team that gives up 114 points -- at home, no less -- to a fifth-place WAC team is going anywhere. That had to be the most embarrassing loss of Rose's career, and possibly of my 35 years as a fan.

    If they can tighten up to the level of an average defensive team, they'll win their share of games. I mean, with Luke Worthington manning the middle, how could they not! "Rebounds . . good! Fouls . . bad!"

  • Born in Provo Logan, UT
    Nov. 16, 2017 10:13 a.m.

    Kudos to the Cougs for sticking their free throws and playing tough defense! Their hard work is paying off.