From the Deseret News - casting couch quotes -SHEEDY OFTEN REJECTED FOR A
LACK OF SEX APPEAL ...Feb 2, 1993 ... Yeah, even in these enlightened
times, Ally says, the casting couch remains a decorative and utilitarian item in
many an executive suite.Cosby judge to weigh potential testimony of 13
other women ...Dec 12, 2016 ... Even if proven ... the age-old
'casting couch' is not unique to Mr. Cosby," defense lawyer Brian
McMonagle CYBERVISION: ON THE INTERNET | Deseret NewsOct 4, 1996 ...
Oct. 9, 11 p.m.: Producer, author and psychotherapist Linda Buzzell discusses
agents, managers, lawyers, the casting couch Wimmer article a winner |
Deseret NewsSep 24, 2002 ... And in this case, so much for the "glass
ceiling" theory and "casting couch" perceptionA&E LOOKS AT
THE REAL EVA PERON | Deseret NewsDec 20, 1996 ... When she met Juan Peron,
then secretary of labor, she found herself on the cushiest casting couch of
all.Mega-hit 'Wedding' had inauspicious beginning | Deseret
NewsFeb 16, 2003 ... "Well, I'm going to try and convince him,
but I'm going to make him go through the casting-couch process,"Feb 4, 2012 “Smash” overplays the Broadway casting couch.
Mr Weinstein does not represent every male in Hollywood, even though this
behaviour has existed since the early days of the industry. Errol Flynn was
known to be an alcoholic and a sexual predator and Jimmy Stewart and Ingrid
Bergman were known for their extra-marrital activities. Hollywood is no
different than any other organisation. Each has its own bad apple, but as a
famous Donny once said: one bad apple does't spoil the whole bunch. Two
things to consider, the first amendment protects their right to expression and
if Hollywood did not produce what people want to spend their money on, it would
not be such an international success. Weinstein will pay a price for what he
did, but don't judge the whole industry - chose what you want to partake
of, and ignore that which you don't. It's akin to a Chinese buffet -
take what you like.
very well written article and spot on -- indeed Hollywood is much like ancient
Rome full of the worst vile and perversion while admiring themselves in every
mirror they pass. There are a "few" decent actors / celebs who are also
decent people but not many. I would say less than 5.
I know people who goto a movie every week of the year. My wife and I may see 2
all year. People think that the moive morals are real life and they start
thinking and judging things that way. Pretty absurd but like any thing the more
you do it the stronger effect it has on you -- good or bad. The internet is the
same thing. There are people who live on Facebook. Our phones are even worse. A
moral compass must be something that brings good and light into your life AND
doesn't change with pop culture. I know of only one thing that qualifies
and that is my faith in God.
LDS Liberal - Farmington, UTWhat 2-bits says makes a lot of sense.
I have also wondered why anyone who identifies with the mormons would make it
appear that they oppose what conservatives believe in.Abortions-on-demand for any reason or no reason, and socialism in general just
don't sync with what the mormons say they stand for.
@LDS Liberal - 4:01RE: "My moral compass is Jesus christ"...---When LDS people frequently differ from what the prophet is saying and
doing... then I wonder if that's true.The moral compass seems
more on Politics than Jesus Christ.After everything our prophet has
said and done regarding issues like legalized marijuana (and OMM is the
opposite). Redefining Marriage (opposite). Abortion (opposite). Drunk driving
laws (opposite).Makes it clear the compass is firmly set on
politics, with an occasional glance at Jesus Christ. Not the other way around.
When ones opinions are contrary to what the prophet is saying, and align with
political rhetoric instead of the prophet when there's a difference...
where is your compass really set?Not saying you should follow
Republicans. They are as wrong a place to put your compass as Democrats.
Don't follow either political party. Don't follow politicians.
Follow the prophet. He won't lead you astray (politicians will).You can be a Democrat or a Republican and a good Mormon. But when you oppose
what the prophet is saying and doing consistently and instead pump political
party rhetoric... there's a problem.
@LDS Liberal - Farmington, UTLDS Liberal says "My moral compass
is Jesus christ".Even liberal members of the LDS faith know, or
should know, what Jesus Christ thinks about elective abortions where the life of
the mother is not in jeopardy, and where rape or incest is not involved. I
always wonder why members of that faith support a political party that not only
encourages but actually that kind of activity?With that kind of
moral compass you might run your ship aground.
What a disgusting piece. I would expect something this creepy from perhaps
Bannon and his crew of gutter politics.... but not the DN. What a disgusting
political pile of ...... that degrades everything conservatism used to stand
for. The pretense that this is the sole issue of the so called left,
particularly in light of the revelations of a 35 million dollar deal paid by
habitual to keep a young lady quite....We don't have to look hard to find
like stories about from either side.This absolutely is not a
partisan issue. Conservative and Liberals alike should be repulsed that such
behavior was confoned and covered up both in Hollywood and FoxNews.Just got once can we focus on the issue at hand and set aside the partisan
points keeping. We surely have settled into the gutter to publish this level
of trash... Weinstein, Hannity.... to of the same and equally disgusting.
Flying Finn...yup that same Ronald Regan..who won the cold war..hardly.
That's about as uninformed as it comes. It is the same Ronald
Regan who began the dismantling of Americas middle class. But the discussion is
not about policies it's about character. Both of the Republican Hollywood
Presidents had questionable pasts morally. That's the issue and the point
of the article, why do we look to Hollywood for our morals.One does
not have to condone the immoral activities of ones own tribe to point out the
false claims and hypocrisy of the other tribe. In other words I don't have
to condone Bill Clinton to point out the Republicans have nominated and elected
two Hollywood morally compromised Presidents.
It’s too bad that some people use their moral compass as a fan. They claim
to be disciples of Christ but from their hostility to others, one wonders. Christ loved everyone. He had total compassion for the woman caught in
adultry. He told her to sin no more. He had total compassion for the woman at
the well, even though she had been married seven times and was then living with
someone she was not married to. He ate and drank with publicabs and sinners. He
was loving and kind to all. So, I wonder when people show open and overt
hostility to anyone, where their moral compass is really pointing. It doesn't really matter where we’re coming from. Christ gave us
the parable of the workers, some who were hired in the morning and others who
were hired late in the day. They all received the same wages. It
might be good idea to let Christ do the judging. He seems to be much better able
to handle his responsibility than some give him credit for.
This all sounds like the old story of pots calling kettles black. Pornography is
big business; sexually suggestive themes or worse sells movies, magazines; etc,
etc.. A lot and I mean a lot of people are without a moral compass, cutting
across many, if not most, sections of society. So; where are you going to find
a moral compass that really is a moral compass ?
My moral compass is Jesus christ.That moral compass steers me completely
opposite and as far away as I can get from donald Trump.
pragmatistferlife - salt lake city, utahAre you thinking of
President Ronald Reagan? Wasn't he the one who won the cold war with
Russia and helped Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi see the light after that
dictator bombed a night club in West Berlin? President Reagan dropped 60 tons
of bombs on Libya and after that we never had any more problems with him.
"How did we let our moral compass point to Hollywood?"Let's see one party has nominated and elected two Hollywood,
entertainment Presidents..which party would that be? The morally corrupt
left...I don't think so.
If people would step back and separate Hollywood from politics, they would have
to ask themselves if they support Clinton - either Clinton. They would have to
ask themselves if they support Obama who failed to speak against Weinstein for
five days even though he supported (still) unsubstantiated allegations against
Russia and Trump on day one. The problem is not Hollywood. The
problem is not Weinstein. The problem is that corrupt politicians will accept
money from corrupt individuals to promote their corrupt ideology.
@Anti-Trump - Everett, WAYour problem is that President Trump isn't a
politician and it drives you absolutley nuts that he was able to be a slick well
oiled politician like Mrs. Clinton in the election.I seriously doubt
he is any better morally than Bill Clinton who, if you remember, was suspended
from practicing law in Arkansas over the Lewinsky incident.
@ Silo: Notice I did not say President Trump is without sin, I said we
don't need to listen to lectures from the left about morality who has no
room whatsoever to cast stones at ANYBODY as you have been doing and continue
to do everyday!
What gives with the DN articles and Trump fans?Yesterday it was: "Op-ed: President Trump is doing his best to restore American
values"...a letter to far off the mark and silly, I thought it
was a political satire.and now this:"Op-ed: How did we let
our moral compass point to Hollywood?"======= You
know what Trumpettes....If Donald Trump wasn't such a lime-light
grabbing buffoon and creating all this public self-inflected stupidism -- the
media would have nothing to report about him, and comedians would be
forced to look for their material somewhere else!There is a name in
the comedy industry for guys like Trump -- Comedy GOLD.You
elected him, it's about high time you own him.
@Rifleman, RE: "Allow me --- Republicans haves known about Donald
Trump's behavior for years. They did not even act when they had their hand
was forced by the media. It has even became fashionable to cozy up even closer
to him. The word "hypocrites" comes to mind"...---Allow me--How long did Democrats know about Bill Clinton's behavior
(both before becoming President and After becoming President?Yes...
the word "hypocrites" does come to mind, doesn't it?Did
you call for Bill Clinton's head as often as you have Donald Trumps?Didn't think so.How about you Anti-Trump? Did you call
for Bill Clinton to resign on moral grounds? Or just Trump?Yes, the
word "hypocrites" comes to mind.I have condemned
Trump's comment on the buss. I haven't heard either of you condemn
BIll Clinton's behavior with interns in the oval office. Or his lieing to
Congress and America about it.
@Anti-Trump - Everett, WAAnti-Trump says "Republicans haves
known about Donald Trump's behavior for years".You are
totally correct. Unfortunately for both you and Mrs. Bill Clinton democrats
chose to either stay home on election night or else they voted for someone they
could trust.It was Bill Clinton that taught us that whatever happens
behind closed doors is none of our business.
I'm reminded of the various scandals over the Catholic Church's child
abuse, the Boy Scout's "perversion files", the regular exposure of
some religious leader or "family values" politician as a horrible
monster and so-on.So if you're asking why folks look to
Hollywood for morality? Probably because the supposedly "moral"
institutions routinely fail us. At least Hollywood is obvious that they're
only paying lip service to such ideals.
Richie Angel, who are you referring to when you use the word "we"? I
know for certain who you are not referring to.
@Rifleman - Salt Lake City, UTOct. 24, 2017 10:29 a.m.@LDS
Liberal - Farmington, UTLDS Liberal says "At least Hollywood
acknowledges and fired Harvey Weinstein".Hollywood has known
about Harvey Weinstein's behavior for years. They only acted when their
hand was forced by the media. Then it became fashionable to distance themselves
from him.The word "hypocrites" comes to mind.======= Rifleman - Salt Lake City, UT@LDS Liberal -
Farmington, UTLDS Liberal says "At least Hollywood acknowledges and
fired Harvey Weinstein".Rifleman, Allow me --- Republicans haves known about Donald Trump's behavior for years. They did
not even act when they had their hand was forced by the media. It has even
became fashionable to cozy up even closer to him.The word
"hypocrites" comes to mind.
Despite the protestations to the contrary here, the left has long looked to
Hollywood as a moral guide. They have showered Hollywood with accolades, and
praised the bravery of "art" for attacking conservative moral values.
They have lionized their political heroes as "cool" and "hip";
the nexus between Hollywood and DC was proof positive of such. They have painted
conservatives as "uncool" and "outdated", and conservative
morals as evil.The left has ignored the sexual harassment by both
their entertainment and political heroes. Hillary demonized Bill's victims
as "bimbos", the liberal masses nodded in agreement. Yes, this was more
"vast, right-wing conspiracy" than abuse. JFK's abusive-by-nature
relationship with the teenaged Mimi Alford is eerily similar to Weinstein's
abuse of aspiring actresses. JFK's staff arranged meetings, left them
alone, and covered up for JFK. They enabled the abuse. Many liberal elite
enabled the behavior.The liberal elites are now "shocked,
shocked" to find systemic abuse and harassment among themselves. They
attempt to justify this behavior by pointing at Fox, Trump or others who have
never been culturally conservative.There is no justification.
@thid barker"America need not listen to any more lectures from them
about President Trump's morality! Confessing other people's
"sins" while their closets are full of skeletons means their comments
about other people's morality are worthless!"Oh my. The
hypocrisy meter just exploded.What would be refreshing is if the
actions of pigs were simply called out as the actions of pigs. Trump,
Weinstein, Oreilly, Aisles, Weiner, etc are all guilty of similar sexual
offenses. They have all been charged for their actions or paid millions of
dollars in settlements for sexual harassment and sexual assault. Only one of them still has his job.
@LDS Liberal - Farmington, UTLDS Liberal says "At least Hollywood
acknowledges and fired Harvey Weinstein".Hollywood has known
about Harvey Weinstein's behavior for years. They only acted when their
hand was forced by the media. Then it became fashionable to distance themselves
from him.The word "hypocrites" comes to mind.
The "right" ignored Weinstein as well.
No, we look at the entertainment industry as a dysfunctional collection of
isolated wealthy people. Hollywood makes huge profits from gun violence and
sexual exploits. They also (now) hypocritically protest these two fundamental
ingredients of their craft.
Enjoying movies isn't the same as considering Hollywood a moral beacon...
IAlaw- Only weak-minded individuals and the media use Hollywood as a moral
compass. I seriously doubt anyone else capable of reasoned thought would do so.
As an aside, why are the liberal commenters talking about Fox News in an
attempt to deflect from the huge Democrat support system of liberals in
RE: "How did we let our moral compass point to Hollywood"...---I've never turned my compass over to Hollywood. I don't look to
Hollywood to set my moral compass. I look to scriptures, church magazines,
General Conference messages each October and April, uplifting books, etc.If you turned your moral compass over to Hollywood... that's your
bad.Hollywood is sending us the message that a LOT of things I know
are wrong are OK today (according to Hollywood).I don't let
Pop-Culture, MTV, or Hollywood define what is moral for me.I know...
Hollywood has been immoral since it began. This is not new stuff. It just is
getting some publicity. Maybe a few more people will ignore Hollywood actors
when they speak on any subject. It is just like the time Jane Fonda, Jessica
Lange, etc. having been in a farm movie testified to a Congressional committee
about farm women.
It goes back decades. It's not a new issue.
So the news coming out of Hollywood or Fox News - choose your partisan bias -
confirmed your personal narrative. There's a shocker.Meanwhile, the news coming out of Hollywood AND Fox News is that political
leanings have precisely zero to do with who commits, who is victimized, and who
enables sexual harassment and sexual violence.But please go on with
your "I knew I was right about the other side!" screed. It's clear
that indulging our confirmation bias at this time is what's going to
protect our girls in the future (some of our boys, too).
I don’t think it’s necessary to paint with a black and white brush.
It seems to me the problem is that morally bankrupt people in power, regardless
of political affiliation, do what they want because they can.
Great piece. And to the indignant responders urging that your moral compass
never pointed to you: Good for you. That's great. The author wasn't
pointing to you.It's clear that society at large does hold up
Hollywood and its figureheads as its moral compass. It IS a fair generalization.
We have Hollywood elite and leftists like Hillary lecturing us about morality
while lining their pockets with Weinstein's money! Hillary called her
husband's victims "bimbos" then set about to destroy their
character! America need not listen to any more lectures from them about
President Trump's morality! Confessing other people's "sins"
while their closets are full of skeletons means their comments about other
people's morality are worthless!
Sexual harassment seems to be a equal political persuasion activity! Writers for far right outlets like the NOQ Report could make a neighborhood
lemon-aid stand into a political issue!
Op-ed: How did we let our moral compass point to Hollywood?=== 1. Who is this "we"?2. I'd rather let Hollywood point
our moral compass right now. a. At least Hollywood acknowledges and fired
Harvey Weinstein. b. While the GOP cheers Donald Trump, Bill O'Reilly
and the rest at FoxNews for the same thing.3. It least Hollywood HAS moral
compass - the GOP seems to be lacking one...
"Shame on all of us."But the writer does not mean it. He
means shame on you lefties. Sexual aggression is commonplace in all
industries, not just entertainment.
If anything, this "Hollywood" story is exposing many other abusers from
Fox News and the White House (which were already ongoing public stories) to Wall
Street to Silicon Valley to be brought to light. This isn't just a
"liberal" problem by any means!Let's just hope this is
a turning point in modern, 21st century-times that men in power don't
resort to using their positions to abuse others sexually.
Richie Angel does not live in a real world. He assumes that we all get our
behavior and likes and dislikes from Hollywood. He should step outside of his
cubical, travel and speak with people. I actually feel sorry for
Richie because he has no idea what he is talking about.
@mcclark - Salt Lake City, UTmcclark asks "How did we elect a
man like Trump"?Answer #1: That's a question Mrs. Bill
Clinton is still can't figure out.Answer #2: Democrats either stayed
home on election night or voted for the better candidate.
Utah girl-The problem is everywhere when there is power and money.
I know it makes you feel better about " your side" when you say " oh
yeah, but you guys were just as bad." Maybe we should drop the teams and
discuss the problem of exploitation of women by men in powerful positions in
Hollywood, TV, or politics.How about it?
There's more to this story than meets the eye. The New York Times
didn't destroy a major donor and fundraiser for the DNC just because it was
the right thing to do. Everyone knows donations to the DNC are way off this
year. I seriously wonder if he was thrown to the wolves as a harbinger of things
to come if Hollywood elites don't start coughing up more dough for
So our moral compass should point toward.....the Republican Party?.....American
@Utah Girl Chronicles"I don't know Ritchie ... why do so
many people affix their moral compass to Fox News?"What part of
the following didn't you understand?" ... but the fact that
left-leaning cultural leaders can’t acknowledge the impropriety
they’ve ignored for years without tagging a “but Trump” at the
end is telling. That so many will discount either while condemning the other is
I agree with the head scratching of others - how can Hollywood be my "moral
compass" if I don't watch any of their movies, and watch almost no TV
(except sports)?Still, it seems Weinstein is clearly being
repudiated now.Will there be a similar revulsion and repudiation on
the right to Fox News, will there be a house cleaning of their President, who
bragged about similar behavior... while his wife was pregnant?
Need to add Fox news and Bill O'Reilly in there. Thirty two Million dollar
settlement by Bill indicates severity of problem at Fox.
How did we elect a man like Trump? How is he any different?The
socially conservative right sold their soul for a judge and a pot of porridge.
I am a lefty, and I don't take any cues from Hollywood. Some of their
stuff is entertaining, but most is not to my taste. I am over 21 after all.And I am a lefty that does not make heroes out of TV or movie
personalities like the majority of GOP voters did. These people in Hollywood
are there to entertain. Some are smart and capable, but they are hired to keep
us laughing or crying on our TV sets and cinemas. I don't care what they
think.This is just another case of psychological projection from the
My moral compass was NEVER directed toward Hollywood. Ever.
How did we elect a man like Trump?
Speak for yourself. The moral compass of everyone I know - literally everyone -
points almost directly away from Hollywood.
Mine never pointed to Hollywood.
And yet "we" elected a president with the same lack of a moral compass.
Who's this 'we' we're talking about? Like many good
'lefties', I take my moral cues from neither Hollywood nor fox news.
Wrong is wrong.
I dont know who the "we" is supposed to be in this piece, but i do know
that literally half of the Republican presidents in my lifetime were screen
Weinstein represents no one but himself. He lost his job and rightfully so. He
is being kicked out of the academy. Stop trying to align him with
Hollywood is the biggest abuser of women and advertiser of immorality.Big shame they are in collusion with many of our politicians.
I don't know Ritchie ... why do so many people affix their moral compass to
Fox News?That place was a sexual harassment factory. Name another
network that has paid out $100 million to keep women silent.
Just who are the "we" in your headline? I have not bought a movie
ticket in a decade (likely maybe one in the past 15 years) and never watch their
glitzy award shows on the tube. Not everyone has been fooled by nor do they buy
into the sleeze that is Hollywood. And their politics is hypocritical at best
and down right evil in its own right. They can't go broke soon enough in
my view. Just look at what's offered for TV entertainment and what movies
they advertise that apparently many pay to see. It's just garbage and
smells like it, even if the minions don't recognize it as such. I
don't support it at all.
I'm actually surprised that the Deseret News would publish such an angry,
hateful piece. I think mocking Jimmy Kimmel for tearing up after his newborn
son's near death experience is pretty heartless. As for letting our moral
compass point to Hollywood...um, who does that? Every parent out there knows
that we have to be very vigilant about the types of movies our kids watch and
the music they listen to. And nobody--nobody--on the left is condoning Harry
Weinstein. Did people know and say nothing? Unfortunately, yes. But then just
today we learned that Fox News paid a $32 million settlement to a woman harassed
by Bill O'Reilly--and then they renewed his contract! And millions of
Americans voted for a man who openly boasted of molesting women! So let's
just admit that this is not a conservative or a liberal issue--it's a human
rights issue. Let's condemn sexual harassment regardless of who the