Save the taxpayers billions of dollars by not playing the bribery and graft
games.Use a fraction of that amount to increase the state tourism
advertising budget. Advertise the honest claim of already having many top-notch
Olympic-quality facilities and ski resorts. Capitalize on those assets and we
can gain the same attention.
it seems to me that professionals ports as well as collegiate sports pays for
itself pretty well. Is there any reason why the Olympics can not do the same ?
Utah benefitted from an enormous amount of voluntarism last time around. Did
Utah come out with a profit ? How much did Utah ante up for those games, and how
much are we supposed to ante up this time? Only one thing is for certain, The
IOC is rolling in the dough. The Olympics are not the only international sports
I thought the Olympics were great last time around. Bring on the games!
This is not in the best interest of the taxpayers of Utah, but then, when was
the ruling class every concerned with the little guys?
When a group of people seek to do a business venture there should be a rock
solid agreement that all the investors receive the profits from the venture in
perfect relationship to the investment put at risk. That means that every
profit and every cost are properly accounted for in money and not mistreated
into false benefits. Every dollar spent by the taxpayer that
produces profits must be accounted for as an investment at risk and
redistributed to the taxpayer in the same manner as any other investor. Like,
if a hat shop makes and sells a hat related to the venture, a part of the profit
from that hat must be counted as part of the venture and be distributed to the
investor tax payers.
How much money could be better spent on infrastructure, health care, education,
and the homeless rather than throwing millions away to crony capitalists for
games? Let’s solve important issues first before throwing more money at
games. Get Educated
There are certainly benefits to hosting another Olympics. But, there are so many
critical needs in our community they should take priority over another Olympics.
The legislature, city and county leaders, and the governor need to be as
responsible as they can with taxpayers money. Many people go without many things
to pay their taxes. They need to remember that.
I strongly opposed the Olympics coming to Utah in 2002. I was dead wrong, what
a great event. Let's bring them back, it will be great for the state.
Hard for me to decide, but I lean towards not brining in another Winter
Olympics. I was just a small player for helping create the 2002 Olympics
security. I am not sure that it would benefit Utah. They are
talking about a lot of what was; there is much more to dig into what really will
cost Utah and what facilities need to be significantly improved with some
requiring to be built from scratch. And where will they house players, security
LEOS and those that will want to see it in person? There is a huge
amount required to get the facts of the future. I still lean towards no more
Winter Olympics in Utah.
Have you talked to Mitt Romney yet?Only way I would say we should do
it is if Mitt Romney was on board from day-1 this time. He was barely able to
save it last time. We were over budget and on our way to a financial disaster
before Romney came along last time. I don't trust those guys who were in
charge before Romney took over to do it this time, without him. So... is he on board with this?If you can say you have Mitt
Romney's commitment to run it... that will probably help a lot to get
buy-in from the general public.But that's the problem with
these bids... you don't need buy-in from the general public to do them.
Just the buy in from the people who will benefit financially from doing it. Of
course THEY want to do it.
We probably need to do this every few years to keep our place as the Mecca for
winter sports and training center for many US Olympic teams. I'm pretty
sure some places close by (Colorado) would love to take over that
responsibility.If we don't... our facilities will gradually
slip in to not being used frequently enough to maintain them. And then they
become a sad sight.I've been to other cities that let their
facilities fall into disrepair (in Gemany, Japan, and USA) and it's sad.Utah has actually done a great job of maintaining their facilities, and
using them, and not letting them fall apart.It all takes money.
Good thing we had a wise leader back when we did it, and he thought to fund an
endowment to maintain the Olympic facilities after the Olympics were over
(funded with donor money, not tax payer money). That would be Mitt Romney.Trash him all you want lefties... he did a good job taking over late in
the game to save our bacon when the Olympics were in huge financial trouble in
Utah. Probably could have done a similar financial rescue/reform for USA too if
we let him. Oh well.
It's not just a 'net benefit' equation. Utah might spend X
dollars and get a benefit of X + Y dollars; but if the bulk the benefits do not
go to those who bore the costs, then it is just a money transfer system. As with
all capitalistic transactions, there will be inequities; but if all the benefits
go towards a few with all the costs born by many, then it is a loser deal even
if the 'state' comes out ahead when you add up all the debits and
I'm not sure the five ring circus can ever bring benefits to a host again.
Things like security and one upmanship have made it almost impossible. I
still believe the whole thing should be scaled back and held in one place on an
It's interesting that last Sunday the citizens of Tyrol, who have hosted
the Winter Olympics twice, and more recently (2012) the Winter Youth Olympics,
voted against submitting a bid for the 2026 Olympics. The vote was 53.35%
against, 46.75% for submitting a bid. In Innsbruck, which has been the host city
each time, the percentage of votes against was even higher, with 67.41% of the
voters voting "no," and only 32.57% voting "yes." (Source:
Austrian Broadcasting Corporation (ORF)).If hosting the Olympics is
such a good deal, why did a place with so much experience in the matter vote
against hosting it again?
The Olympics should beg Utah to host the games! We proved ourselves more than
worthy the first time.Why would we want to spend $30 million chasing
the self serving Olympic committee who leaves a wake of debt and junk behind
them?Everyone on the team to review the Olympics needs to be
reviewed themselves. They are most likely self dealing as well.Why
allow this nonsense to even happen in Utah?
I was taught early on in my career, you need to spend money to make money!What was the cost to tax payers for the 2002 winter games and how much
did the economy benefit as a result?
"but before the state squares up to head down that slope, it’s worth
weighing the full costs and benefits."Anyplace else, and this
makes sense. In Utah, it doesn't work. Just like the unnecessary prison
move, as long as there is money to be made off of taxpayer dollars, the
Legislature will put their best interests over those of taxpayers.