20+ injuries make a difference. 2 or 3 guys from last year's offense are
playing pro ball. Wide receives of last year are gone this year. Stupid to
expect BYU to be competitive against that schedule. Washington, USC, Utah, would
all be bruised by that schedule.In addition, Sitake has had one (1)
full recruiting class. They're playing a lot of freshmen. And Bronco did no
recruit the year before. It will take all of this year and probably another to
get BYU fully up to speed.Bronco sucked at UVA last year. This year
he's 6-1. Granted, BYU would probably be 6-1 agains that schedule, but
Bronco is 6-1 and BYU is 1-6. So lets cool our jets and let Sitake get his guys
in the house. But Don't look for the schedule to lighten up. It is still
pretty brutal for the next few years ... Washington, USC, Tennessee (I'm
going to that game ... I love Tennessee (the state)). BYU is playing big boys
and will have to step up. Maybe a few less top 20 teams would be welcome, at
least in the near term.
@what to do. You are right. BYU may not win 7 games next year,
Maybe coach Detmer can set an example for his team of hard work by getting in
shape physically. As he works hard maybe they will.
@london_joshYou’re right. It’s mediocrity, not
independence, that’s not sustainable.But just what direction do you
think this team is heading? Mediocrity would be an improvement. And by
the way, being a good fan does NOT mean you can’t be critical. Not all
fans are morons as you seem to think. And on behalf of the many fans who have
donated thousands or tens of thousands of dollars to Byu football, I believe we
have a right to opine on their performance. And I know Sitake would agree with
BYU fans demanded a new system for better results.This is called
growing pains.I expect some improvement next year, not a lot, but
some.In any case, I'm a fan of Ty Detmer and Kalani Sitaki,
I'm a fan of BYU, I don't care so much about the losses, and I agree
that the fair weather BYU fans are far more obnoxious than the Ute trolls.If you are a fan, be a fan, and if you aren't a fan I'd rather
that you never be a fan again. If I'm right 5 years from now BYU will be
an explosive offensive team with some big wins making regular noise on the
field. All these naysayers will be hypocrites with blue t-shirts wearing the
hypocrisy of their whining during this transition.Maybe BYU goes
bowling, maybe they don't, I personally am glad for the coaching change and
hope this works out to bring BYU above the mediocrity that isn't
sustainable. People don't realize, it's not independence
that's unsustainable, it's mediocrity!
It's true that being a great player does not automatically translate into
being a great coach -- and that jump from high school to division 1 college is
obviously a big one.
If Detmer is wondering why the Cougars are not winning he needs to look no
further than his play calling. He is not the offensive mind he was cracked up
to be under pressure.
Wayne Gretzky learned that playing at the highest competitive level does not
guarantee success in coaching. The greatest goal scorer in professional hockey
history was 141-163-24 as a coach and his teams never made the playoffs. Maybe
Ty gets one more year to build a system that is realistic about the talent
available. The O-Line hasn't blown open any holes in the past two years.
Jamaal and Taysom made their own opportunity. BYU doesn't have someone
with that capability now and so they have to adjust.
Somewhere Bronco is saying "I told you so".
I hold the fair-weather BYU fan in somewhat less esteem than I do the Ute
trolls. It is a tough year and it is felt by the coaches and players more than
any fan. Some fans seem to think that BYU football is responsible for their
personal happiness.This are the same coaches with whom we were so excited
after they came within a few points of a perfect season. Give them time
to fully implement their system. If BYU still struggles, then look for new
coaches. Even Crowton was given two more years after he posted the first losing
season in forever for the Cougs. OK, the result was two more losing seasons.
That and other factors brought in Bronco who took BYU to a bowl game every year
he was here. The right man at the right time.We survived the three losing
seasons under Crowton and we will survive this. I have faith enough in the
current staff that I want them to have the FULL amount of time they need to show
what they can do. Or cannot do, at which point a change will be in order. And to our good friends, the Ute trolls: BYU will not drop down to DII,
will not drop football, will not continue to lose, and will someday soon get
back into the habit of beating the Utes.
Studies have shown that demonstrative, outbursts of anger are proven to provide
lasting motivation and long-term changes in improved behavior.
Juice BoxWas Utah's September success due to better play, or
because the quality of opponents was so low?
So.. when BYU wins this week is it because of Ty Detmer? Or because the quality
of opponent is so low?I bet the DNews will give the credit to Ty
These are tough times indeed for our Cougars! But let's be patient and
keep cheering and supporting them. Let's not be too overly critical and
start calling for drastic changes. Patience is a virtue! Things will get
better so let's be positive and keep supporting our coaches and our
players. The last thing they need is for us fans to give up and loose faith in
them now. Let's weather the storm and wait for the sun to rise again. Looking forward to this Saturday against East Carolina! Got great
seats and my lungs are healthy ready to cheer! Go Cougars!!!
It’s great that Detmer shows up now - heading into the weakest part of the
season or should we say the portion of the season where BYU is equally match
with other teams who are 1 and 6. This is how it goes every year, the real team
walk on BYU, then BYU coaches “fix things” and WOW their winning. -
“only if we would have found this earlier in the season” yah
right!The fact is the AD, head coach and Detmer are all over their
collective heads. The kids are all good guys, and decent talent, but they are
not the teams of the past. The really good players have over looked BYU and
moved on to Utah and other PAC 12 or Power conference teams.BYU
would do well to stop this hard soft schedule that they have developed over the
past couple of years. It is doing nothing for the program, other than making a
once great team the laughing stock of the NCAA. They should fire the AD and get
into a conference, but their little cougar tail between their legs and ask
forgiveness to the MWC and see if they can go back home. BYU should have learned
from this that it is better to be a big fish in a small pond that the whipping
boy in a big pond.If you think this year is bad, do the math - next
Lots of football experts on the site. Wow. Thanks guys for your little league
commentaries. So enlightening. So how I think these coaches, that actually
played at high levels, not peewee leagues will get this in the right track.
Every programs have down years. I actually went to Utah games back in the days
you couldn’t give their tickets away and they beat BYU once in 20 years.
You can go from tough to less tough in leadership, but you can't go the
reverse direction. He has failed.
Too little, too late.
With BYU's schedule, a bowl game was a given. 'Was' being the
operative word. Still, looking at the next six games, maybe Fresno State
presents a problem. But if I had to place a bet, BYU wins out and half the fan
base sings whoopee, while the other half who pay more attention has as many
questions about next year as they do now.
Worf's cure for next years BYU football team:* get a JC running
back* get 2 JC offensive linemen* replace two offensive coaches
I've always thought the coaching staff was too nice. We need some Rodger
French and Frank Kush type coaches to kick some behinds.
Basic problem is we do not have receivers who will catch the ball. Matthews and
predecessors made the catches. Not one receiver can be counted on to catch the
Sounds like Detmer is really rubbing off on Neil Pau'u with all of the
"kind of's" in his quote.I'm glad Ty raised his
voice and got their attention. I think he needs to do that a lot more, and
during games too, both when they do well and also when they screw up. LaVell
held his emotions in check most of the time but his assistants didn't. No
more Mr Nice Guy, get these players to step up!
Why are byu fans so disillusioned about their football team? The problems are
not: "they aren't executing," "they aren't
disciplined," "they lack passion," etc, etc... The blatantly
obvious problem is the team lacks depth and sorely lacks talent or skill
players. They only have one player going to the NFL, Fred Warner the LB and he
is awesome. This is the their reality, difficult but true.Within
2-4 years Sitake will be the Defensive Line Coach at Utah. Ty Detmer, the
deserved legend and Heisman winner that he is, will be back retired in Texas.
Kyle Whittingham will be retired and Morgan Scalley will be the head coach at
Utah. Byu will bounce back, but this year is futile. Byu could go
More emotional pep talks are not going to do the trick. In division 1 football,
there is no substitute for execution, precision, and creativity. There is plenty
of talent on BYU's football team. I'm just a fan, but as I've
watched BYU's offense, it seems that the other teams have our offense
pretty much figured out. If our offense was effective, I have no doubt that the
defense, which spends way too much time on the field, would suddenly look pretty
Even if BYU were to win every remaining game, (highly doubtful) the team and
fans have lost any confidence in his ability. I can't see any way to regain
that confidence this year with our remaining opponents as bad as we/they are.
Waiting until next year to assess any progress is equal to a recruiting
disaster, already in progress. Detmer has to go....its too late for any
motivational speeches. That should have been done after Portland State.
The players are literally dropping the ball.Detmer isn't trying
to light a fire to play hard, he is trying to get them to execute.The players know that this is the foundation of the problem.That's why they respect Detmer's getting more in their faces.The players either don't know how to learn the schemes or they
don't have the discipline to run them.
Supposedly a world-wide fan base of millions, and a history of successful
alumni, but Detmer is alone on an island.Nobody can help him out?
Lunch with Steve Young? A conference call with Andy Reid? Any Norm Chow
playbooks in the archives? Maybe a support group for pro-style offenses in
The coaching staff is in over its head. Sitake is a good coordinator but not a
good head coach - nothing wrong with that there are many coaches in that boat.
Cleaning house is in order.
@fatherof7"Best think Kalani Sitaki could do is to shut the
media out of any football conversation, interviews, and post game conferences
with players and coaches until the season is over."But then what
would Dick Harmon do for a living?
Too little, to late. I for one would like to see them lose out and have the
whole program re-evaluated. I think the coaching staff reflects the "Peter
Principle" and the team reflects the coaching staffs lack of ability to
I think things are about to turn around. Five of the remaining six games are
against teams ranked in the bottom twenty-five: East Caroline
(125th)San Jose State (127th)Fresno State (64th)UNLV
(105th)UMass (121st)Hawaii (124th).BYU is 110th by the
way.The only trouble is that BYU doesn't seem to really know
what the problem is. That's not good.
So the offense is going to start producing now because he got mad at the
players? Really?The problems on offense run far deeper than just lack of
fire from the players...
I will give credit where credit is due. Scheduling the Portland game kept us
from starting out 0-6. Now that was a brilliant scheduling move.
Best think Kalani Sitaki could do is to shut the media out of any football
conversation, interviews, and post game conferences with players and coaches
until the season is over.
Desperate times call for desperate measures. Detmer is desperate, and rightly
so. Anyone else would lose their job and so should he.
I'm not buying into this. Wait until all the hard teams are over then
"Light a fire under the team to get them playing better" Miraculously,
BYU wins against a 1-6 East Carolina team, then maybe a win against a currently
1-7 San Jose St. Team. Then we can all cheer and beat our chests because Ty
Detmer "lit a fire under the team." Please. This talk should
have happened after the LSU game with not crossing the 50. That's when this
talk should have happened.