Morning links: Cosmo, Whittingham make impressions, latest bowl projections

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  • BlueCoug Provo, UT
    Oct. 18, 2017 8:18 a.m.

    Spokane Ute

    BYU will have win out and Utah will have to win at least 2 more to get a bowl bid.

    BYU(6-7) or Utah(5-7) won't be bowling.

  • midpacmajor Salt Lake City, Utah
    Oct. 18, 2017 8:12 a.m.

    navel vet

    Regardless of the bowl payout, the Utes will once again finish in the middle of the PAC 12 South and play in another meaningless bowl against another mediocre bowl opponent.

    The truth is, nobody besides Utah and Indiana fans would have even noticed if last season's snoozer in the Foster Farms Bowl hadn't even been played.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Oct. 17, 2017 9:40 p.m.

    midWACmajor:

    "What makes you so certain midpacmajor that the Foster Farms Bowl isn’t the meaningless bowl and the mediocre bowl opponent isn’t BYU?"

    Easy...

    (1) The Foster Farms Bowl is for Pac-12 and BigTen teams, and you belong to neither!

    (2) You're too WACish and midmajory to earn an at-large bid to a $2+ million bowl bid!

    Mark it down! You're NOT going to the Foster Farms Bowl. Period.

  • CentralcoastUte San luis obispo , CA
    Oct. 17, 2017 7:56 p.m.

    @ mussingaroind,
    Ok you're right. Although he isn't claiming any sort of moral victory like BYU does.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Oct. 17, 2017 4:49 p.m.

    Stop the press; I stand corrected. They would have to win out unless they received a waiver because there wasn't enough teams meeting the criteria I mentioned. My mistake and apologies; wow it looks bleak for the Cougs.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Oct. 17, 2017 4:15 p.m.

    @ Whatsnu

    bowls can be filled as follows:
    1.Teams finishing 6-6 with one win against a team from the lower Football Championship Subdivision (FCS), regardless of whether that FCS school meets NCAA scholarship requirements. Until now, an FCS win counted only if that opponent met the scholarship requirements—specifically, that school had to award at least 90% of the FCS maximum of 63 scholarship equivalents over a two-year period. In the 2012 season, programs in four FCS conferences cannot meet the 90% requirement (56.7 equivalents)—the Ivy League, which prohibits all athletic scholarships; the Pioneer Football League and Georgetown, which do not currently award football scholarships; and the Northeast Conference, which limits football scholarships to 38 equivalents.
    2.6-6 teams with two wins over FCS schools.
    3.Teams that finish 6-7 with loss number seven in their conference championship game (that has been eliminated by the conference championship waiver rule).
    4.6-7 teams that normally play a 13-team schedule, such as Hawaii's home opponents. Although Hawaii normally plays a 13-game schedule, it only played 12 games in the 2012 season.

    Source Wikapedia

    Check Mate!

  • UoU 1991 Park City, UT
    Oct. 17, 2017 3:54 p.m.

    Spokane Ute

    "ESPN has Utah in the Sun Bowl vs Florida St. or Virginia"

    Utah vs Virginia in the Sun Bowl would be a very interesting match up.

    Utah vs Georgia Tech in the Sun Bowl, as Bleacher Report predicts, would be boooring.

  • Whatsnu Sandy, UT
    Oct. 17, 2017 3:49 p.m.

    BlueCoug: "BYU needs to win out to get a bowl bid."

    SpokaneUte: "Actually they don't; 6-7 is bowl eligiable."

    SpokaneUte: "I have no problem admitting when I'm wrong, in error or incorrect..."

    So where's your proof that BlueCoug was wrong in predicting that to get a bowl bid, BYU would have to win out?

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Oct. 17, 2017 3:39 p.m.

    ESPN has Utah in the Sun Bowl vs Florida St. or Virginia, and no bowl for BYU. At this point that seems much more likely.

  • TroyTown Anaheim, CA
    Oct. 17, 2017 3:37 p.m.

    Spokane Ute: "I have no problem admitting when I'm wrong, in error or incorrect..."

    The error BlueCoug did make, which you failed to address, is this:

    "Utah needs at least 2 wins to become bowl eligible."

    Utah only needs 1 win to become bowl eligible, with no worse than a 5-7 record.

    A bowl bid for either BYU(6-7) or Utah(5-7), however, is unlikely - see Utah 2012 and 2013.

  • mussingaround Palo Alto, CA
    Oct. 17, 2017 3:22 p.m.

    CentralcoastUte "I read every single co.ment on this thread. What Ute fan said "woulda, coulda, shoulda"?"

    Protecting This House: "When is Huntley back? Feels hollow knowing that if he's at the helm, we are one of the few remaining undefeated teams in the land...what a difference a QB makes."

    Whatever happened to the claimed, arrogant, Utah mantra of "next man up"?

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Oct. 17, 2017 3:20 p.m.

    northern_lights - Layton, UT
    Oct. 17, 2017 12:17 p.m.

    Spokane Ute

    What is your source that a 6-7 BYU team would be guaranteed a bowl bid?
    -----------
    When did I say "guaranteed"? I said eligible. You may want to read other's posts more closely before making false accusations. I have no problem admitting when I'm wrong, in error or incorrect; now let's see if it's possible for you to do the same.

  • midpacmajor Salt Lake City, Utah
    Oct. 17, 2017 2:45 p.m.

    navelvet

    What makes you so certain that the Foster Farms Bowl isn’t the meaningless bowl and the mediocre bowl opponent isn’t BYU?

    It’s hilarious watching the Ute faithful coming unglued because of a mid-season bowl prediction.

  • No playoff for U Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 17, 2017 2:39 p.m.

    Navel Vet

    It’s still possible that BYU could be bowling while Utah is playing couch potato.

    The only thing certain in sports, is uncertainty - that’s why they play the games.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Oct. 17, 2017 2:11 p.m.

    midpacmajor:

    So in other words, what you're saying is, you agree with me that the Y won't be going to the Foster Farms Bowl, and that london_josh looks desperate and silly for boasting of this postseason destination for the cougars.

    I thought so.

  • CentralcoastUte San luis obispo , CA
    Oct. 17, 2017 12:49 p.m.

    Vasislos,

    I read every single co.ment on this thread. What Ute fan said "woulda, coulda, shoulda"?

  • northern_lights Layton, UT
    Oct. 17, 2017 12:17 p.m.

    Spokane Ute

    What is your source that a 6-7 BYU team would be guaranteed a bowl bid?

    You know, it is possible to admit that you’re stating as fact, something that is only your own biased personal opinion.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Oct. 17, 2017 11:51 a.m.

    Cosmo isn't making any bowl predictions - he is licking his wounds hiding away in his cave embarrased to show himself with his 1-6 team. I predict Cosmo (and most fans) will be wearing paper bags over their heads at the final few games. UGLY!!!

  • vasislos Holbrook, AZ
    Oct. 17, 2017 11:19 a.m.

    Hope BYU wins out and goes to a bowl.

    Hope the game is NOT against Stanford. Don't need another bad loss. Of course, maybe the Cougs iron out all their difficulties against the upcoming opponents. But as it stands, if BYU goes bowling it should be against a team with which they can be competitive

    At one time there were few bowls and it was very hard to start a new one. Now they are a dime a dozen and most are only marginally prestigious. But, still, going bowling is still considered a mark of at least a semi-successful season.

    BTW, Utes, if you had your starting QB in the games against USC and Stanford, it would not have guaranteed a victory. Both schools would have planned defenses against his skill set and perhaps the games would not have been so close. As it was, your QB played well and set the stage for Utah having the chance to win both games. Stop with the "woulda, coulda, shoulda" comments that you (rightly) complain about BYU fans making.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Oct. 17, 2017 10:23 a.m.

    BlueCoug - Provo, UT
    Oct. 16, 2017 2:32 p.m.

    "BYU needs to win out to get a bowl bid."
    -----
    Your words exactly. No they don't; they could get a bowl at 6-7. You seem to get upset when called out for mis-information. Kind of like when you state Mika was a lock to be a lottery pick. That will always be my favorite. A simple I stand corrected will suffice. No need to throw a temper tantrum.

  • Minnesota Ute Bloomington, MN
    Oct. 17, 2017 9:04 a.m.

    The cougars should sincerely hope they don't play Stanford. They would be thoroughly annihilated. Bryce Love would probably go over 200 yards against byu.

  • midpacmajor Salt Lake City, Utah
    Oct. 17, 2017 8:45 a.m.

    Naval Vet

    I'm predicting that the Utes will once again finish in the middle of the PAC 12 South and play in another meaningless bowl against another mediocre bowl opponent.

  • UoU 1991 Park City, UT
    Oct. 17, 2017 8:27 a.m.

    Bleacher Report has Utah playing Georgia Tech(6-5 or 5-6?) in the Sun Bowl.

  • BlueCoug Provo, UT
    Oct. 17, 2017 8:16 a.m.

    re: BlueCoug "BYU needs to win out to get a bowl bid."

    re: Spokane Ute "Actually they don't; 6-7 is bowl eligiable [sic]. A little research goes a long ways but from experience, I know that's foreign to you."

    I never said "bowl eligible", I said "to get a bowl bid".

    Without a 2017 bowl tie-in, BYU would have to get an at large bid to a bowl, which I think would be very doubtful with a 6-7 record.

    Of course, understanding such a subtle difference is foreign to you.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Oct. 16, 2017 9:28 p.m.

    london_josh:

    Palm may be predicting that the cougars go to the Foster Farms Bowl, but I'm predicting they won't. So between he and I, whom do you think is correct?

    PS: If you think it's ME, then why the boast?

  • soulkracker Kansas City, MO
    Oct. 16, 2017 8:37 p.m.

    BYU fans....gotta love em'!!

  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Oct. 16, 2017 8:27 p.m.

    Wait. So they are predicting . . . that despite the doom and gloom . . . BYU is still predicted to go to the same bowl game [the] Utes went to last year . . . ?"

    jelly-red rash:

    Keep waiting, because BYU-P was predicted--in more than these pages--to win 9 to 13 games and beat Utah.

    How'd that work out for you?

  • Mountainman38 Idaho Falls, ID
    Oct. 16, 2017 4:55 p.m.

    Right now it looks like BYU's critical game will be Fresno State. they have a good QB and starting to score points. Hawaii and UNLV has some flashes of success early, but have not done well lately. UMass, E Carolina and Portland State are simply bad. BYU slid past Portland and should pound the other two bad ones. Any loss could put the Cougs out of a bowl game and two would be curtains. No team has ever gone to a bowl game with a 5-8 record. If BYU players were talking trash as the Boise State folks alleged, then that should be history. How can you talk trash with a 1-6 record?

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Oct. 16, 2017 4:40 p.m.

    BlueCoug - Provo, UT
    Oct. 16, 2017 2:32 p.m.

    BYU needs to win out to get a bowl bid.
    -----------
    Actually they don't; 6-7 is bowl eligiable. A little research goes a long ways but from experience, I know that's foreign to you.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Oct. 16, 2017 3:10 p.m.

    BYU will be watching TV after Thanksgiving -- not playing. Better get used to it fans.

  • BlueCoug Provo, UT
    Oct. 16, 2017 2:32 p.m.

    BYU needs to win out to get a bowl bid.

    Utah needs at least 2 wins to become bowl eligible.

    As to which team actually gets to a bowl remains to be seen.

  • skywalker Palo Alto, CA
    Oct. 16, 2017 2:25 p.m.

    SoonerUte

    "Ohio State and Penn State both in the playoffs?
    The two teams play each other October 28.
    The committee isn't likely to go for a rematch.
    Besides which, they are both in the same division.
    Only one can play in the CCG (supposedly important)."

    You obviously weren't paying attention last year when Ohio State was invited to the CFP despite losing to Penn State and not even winning their division.

    The CFP committee can be just as fickle as the NCAA tourney committee.

  • london_josh lincoln, CA
    Oct. 16, 2017 2:14 p.m.

    @tomahawk

    Whit got praise for a gutsy choice, I think the same thing, and Kalani did the same last year at Utah.

    However, much like the loss BYU suffered last year at Utah, the 2 point failed.

    Now, for those who want to call out BYU fans for claiming "moral victories" I guess you can, but don't be a hypocrite, with all your jawing about BYU losing that game you need to remind yourself, that Stanford beat Utah and USC beat Utah.

    Good luck on the rest of the season.

  • And so it begins... Sandy, UT
    Oct. 16, 2017 2:14 p.m.

    Jon Wilner has Utah in the Sun Bowl,

    IF the Utes are bowl eligible.

  • SoonerUte Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 16, 2017 2:00 p.m.

    I like Jerry Palm, but wonder if he phoned this one in.
    Ohio State and Penn State both in the playoffs?
    The two teams play each other October 28.
    The committee isn't likely to go for a rematch.
    Besides which, they are both in the same division.
    Only one can play in the CCG (supposedly important).

    Way early for predictions. Plenty of chances for Jerry to clean up his list.

  • CO Ute PARKER, CO
    Oct. 16, 2017 1:31 p.m.

    Jerry Palm predictions literally made me laugh. Hey it is early and he is an expert but ... maybe no PAC 12 team gets in the playoff but only USC gets a NY Bowl while TCU, OSU, and OU out of the Big 12 get NY Bowl games? Utah gets the Alamo Bowl over Stanford and WSU? BYU becomes bowl eligible and plays Stanford in the Foster Farms Bowl? I doubt any of those things happen.

  • Johnny Triumph Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 16, 2017 12:52 p.m.

    BYU needs to pull the offense together and win 5 of 6, that's all there is to it. But they're also games that are winnable, I think.

  • Road Runner Cedar City, UT
    Oct. 16, 2017 12:26 p.m.

    The meltdown on the hill would be apocalyptic if BYU qualified for a bowl and the Utes didn’t.

    A loss to the Sun Devils this week and the Utes will be well on their way to their own 6-game losing streak.

  • Henry Drummond San Jose, CA
    Oct. 16, 2017 12:22 p.m.

    @london_josh

    I had to laugh as well at the idea of BYU going to the Foster Farms Bowl to play Stanford. It seems like everything outside of the playoffs and NY6 are becoming like the NIT.

  • Jello is Good ,
    Oct. 16, 2017 12:15 p.m.

    @VegasUte - Las Vegas, NV
    Oct. 16, 2017 11:42 a.m.

    "These bowl predictions don't make sense at all.
    Sorry, Jello - but this scenario will never play out. And you also can't use "they" as if there are a group of people believing this will happen. It is Jerry Palm's prediction only, and he didn't do his research very well at that. Have fun following the byu cupcake run. Maybe, just maybe, byu can actually win the next six games in the worst remaining schedule in all of FBS, to become bowl eligible. Maybe. They still need an offense to accomplish even that."

    Haha! You are so easy and predictable. "They" is a generic term so get yours out of the wad you have placed them. I actually think Jerry (they) are/is wrong also. I do see BYU having a 50/50 shot of winning all six and going to a bowl, but not the Foster Farms.

    I actually have Utah with a 50/50 shot also of not making a bowl. They are a better team than last year, but their remaining schedule is incredibly hard and they may only be favored in 2 games. (3 on the outside)

    Not being a hater as Utah is my 4th favorite team behind BYU, Maryland and UW, but I think BYU and Utah have about the same shot to go to a bowl

  • Gandalph Sandy, UT
    Oct. 16, 2017 12:11 p.m.

    Season couldn’t be going any better, eh, tommy red?

    Classic BYU-hating post from a “Utah fan” considering it’s only mid October and the Utes have already been eliminated from the PAC 12 South race.

  • SoonerUte Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 16, 2017 12:11 p.m.

    ESPN -- exclusive partner of BYU -- also has bowl projections, but the Cougars are missing.

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    Oct. 16, 2017 11:42 a.m.

    These bowl predictions don't make sense at all. He has byu going to the Foster Farms Bowl as a replacement team, then also shows Oregon and Colorado going to bowl games as replacement teams. Unless I am missing something, the PAC would not have to be replaced in any of their bowl games if they still have two teams that are eligible to be used as replacements in other bowl games (Oregon and Colorado).

    Sorry, Jello - but this scenario will never play out. And you also can't use "they" as if there are a group of people believing this will happen. It is Jerry Palm's prediction only, and he didn't do his research very well at that. Have fun following the byu cupcake run. Maybe, just maybe, byu can actually win the next six games in the worst remaining schedule in all of FBS, to become bowl eligible. Maybe. They still need an offense to accomplish even that.

    Go Utes!

    Beat ASU!

  • Protecting This House Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 16, 2017 11:13 a.m.

    Kercheval wrote, "Hats off to Whittingham for having the stones to make that call. When you're a road dog, those are the decisions you need to make. The play itself wasn't bad, either. Receiver Darren Carrington was open in the back of the end zone. Williams has to keep his eyes downfield to make that throw."

    May I repeat. Carrington (a.ka., our best playmaker on the field) was open in the back of the endzone...Williams has to keep his eyes downfield to make that throw...

    When is Huntley back? Feels hollow knowing that if he's at the helm, we are one of the few remaining undefeated teams in the land...what a difference a QB makes.

  • Silver Stingray St George, UT
    Oct. 16, 2017 10:59 a.m.

    "Even though the Cougars are 1-6 so far, Palm has them heading to the Foster Farms Bowl to play against Stanford."

    Sorry, but the only bowl the Cougars are headed for is the Toilet Bowl.

  • Tomahawk Red Miami Beach, FL
    Oct. 16, 2017 10:34 a.m.

    LOL!!!

    This season couldn't be going any better.

    Utah once again gaining praise on the field, and byup making news for... Well, this.

    Haha!

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Oct. 16, 2017 10:30 a.m.

    So Jerry Palm is predicting that the Utes will go to a better bowl than Stanford?

    I'm all for it, but I can't defend it.

  • london_josh lincoln, CA
    Oct. 16, 2017 10:09 a.m.

    "Even though the Cougars are 1-6 so far, Palm has them heading to the Foster Farms Bowl to play against Stanford."

    Umm, your kidding me, right?

    We'd certainly take it, and we'd bring a ton of fans too.

    Interesting prediction.

  • Jello is Good ,
    Oct. 16, 2017 9:58 a.m.

    Wait. So they are predicting that the PAC 12 will not be participating in the Playoff again and they are also predicting that despite the doom and gloom predicted by our obsessed rivals and in a very down year BYU is still predicted to go to the same bowl game your top 25 Utes went to last year to play a PAC12 team Utah just lost to?

    Wow. I guess we both have nothing to play for. The only difference I see in the seasons outcome is we will most likely get pummeled in our bowl game while Utah most likely will win. You sure have left us behind.

  • ray vaughn Ogden, UT
    Oct. 16, 2017 9:08 a.m.

    It's a sad commentary on the sorry state of BYU football when the mascot is receiving more favorable publicity than the football team