Spokane UteBYU will have win out and Utah will have to win at least
2 more to get a bowl bid.BYU(6-7) or Utah(5-7) won't be
navel vetRegardless of the bowl payout, the Utes will once again
finish in the middle of the PAC 12 South and play in another meaningless bowl
against another mediocre bowl opponent.The truth is, nobody besides
Utah and Indiana fans would have even noticed if last season's snoozer in
the Foster Farms Bowl hadn't even been played.
midWACmajor:"What makes you so certain midpacmajor that the
Foster Farms Bowl isn’t the meaningless bowl and the mediocre bowl
opponent isn’t BYU?"Easy...(1) The Foster
Farms Bowl is for Pac-12 and BigTen teams, and you belong to neither! (2) You're too WACish and midmajory to earn an at-large bid to a $2+
million bowl bid!Mark it down! You're NOT going to the Foster
Farms Bowl. Period.
@ mussingaroind,Ok you're right. Although he isn't claiming any
sort of moral victory like BYU does.
Stop the press; I stand corrected. They would have to win out unless they
received a waiver because there wasn't enough teams meeting the criteria I
mentioned. My mistake and apologies; wow it looks bleak for the Cougs.
@ Whatsnubowls can be filled as follows:1.Teams finishing 6-6
with one win against a team from the lower Football Championship Subdivision
(FCS), regardless of whether that FCS school meets NCAA scholarship
requirements. Until now, an FCS win counted only if that opponent met the
scholarship requirements—specifically, that school had to award at least
90% of the FCS maximum of 63 scholarship equivalents over a two-year period. In
the 2012 season, programs in four FCS conferences cannot meet the 90%
requirement (56.7 equivalents)—the Ivy League, which prohibits all
athletic scholarships; the Pioneer Football League and Georgetown, which do not
currently award football scholarships; and the Northeast Conference, which
limits football scholarships to 38 equivalents.2.6-6 teams with two wins
over FCS schools.3.Teams that finish 6-7 with loss number seven in their
conference championship game (that has been eliminated by the conference
championship waiver rule).4.6-7 teams that normally play a 13-team
schedule, such as Hawaii's home opponents. Although Hawaii normally plays a
13-game schedule, it only played 12 games in the 2012 season.Source
Spokane Ute"ESPN has Utah in the Sun Bowl vs Florida St. or
Virginia"Utah vs Virginia in the Sun Bowl would be a very
interesting match up.Utah vs Georgia Tech in the Sun Bowl, as
Bleacher Report predicts, would be boooring.
BlueCoug: "BYU needs to win out to get a bowl bid."SpokaneUte: "Actually they don't; 6-7 is bowl eligiable."SpokaneUte: "I have no problem admitting when I'm wrong, in
error or incorrect..."So where's your proof that BlueCoug
was wrong in predicting that to get a bowl bid, BYU would have to win out?
ESPN has Utah in the Sun Bowl vs Florida St. or Virginia, and no bowl for BYU.
At this point that seems much more likely.
Spokane Ute: "I have no problem admitting when I'm wrong, in error or
incorrect..."The error BlueCoug did make, which you failed to
address, is this:"Utah needs at least 2 wins to become bowl
eligible."Utah only needs 1 win to become bowl eligible, with no
worse than a 5-7 record.A bowl bid for either BYU(6-7) or Utah(5-7),
however, is unlikely - see Utah 2012 and 2013.
CentralcoastUte "I read every single co.ment on this thread. What Ute fan
said "woulda, coulda, shoulda"?"Protecting This House:
"When is Huntley back? Feels hollow knowing that if he's at the helm,
we are one of the few remaining undefeated teams in the land...what a difference
a QB makes."Whatever happened to the claimed, arrogant, Utah
mantra of "next man up"?
northern_lights - Layton, UTOct. 17, 2017 12:17 p.m.Spokane
UteWhat is your source that a 6-7 BYU team would be guaranteed a
bowl bid?-----------When did I say "guaranteed"? I said
eligible. You may want to read other's posts more closely before making
false accusations. I have no problem admitting when I'm wrong, in error or
incorrect; now let's see if it's possible for you to do the same.
navelvetWhat makes you so certain that the Foster Farms Bowl
isn’t the meaningless bowl and the mediocre bowl opponent isn’t
BYU?It’s hilarious watching the Ute faithful coming unglued
because of a mid-season bowl prediction.
Navel VetIt’s still possible that BYU could be bowling while
Utah is playing couch potato.The only thing certain in sports, is
uncertainty - that’s why they play the games.
midpacmajor:So in other words, what you're saying is, you agree
with me that the Y won't be going to the Foster Farms Bowl, and that
london_josh looks desperate and silly for boasting of this postseason
destination for the cougars. I thought so.
Vasislos,I read every single co.ment on this thread. What Ute fan
said "woulda, coulda, shoulda"?
Spokane UteWhat is your source that a 6-7 BYU team would be
guaranteed a bowl bid?You know, it is possible to admit that
you’re stating as fact, something that is only your own biased personal
Cosmo isn't making any bowl predictions - he is licking his wounds hiding
away in his cave embarrased to show himself with his 1-6 team. I predict Cosmo
(and most fans) will be wearing paper bags over their heads at the final few
Hope BYU wins out and goes to a bowl.Hope the game is NOT against
Stanford. Don't need another bad loss. Of course, maybe the Cougs iron
out all their difficulties against the upcoming opponents. But as it stands, if
BYU goes bowling it should be against a team with which they can be
competitive At one time there were few bowls and it was very hard
to start a new one. Now they are a dime a dozen and most are only marginally
prestigious. But, still, going bowling is still considered a mark of at least a
semi-successful season.BTW, Utes, if you had your starting QB in the
games against USC and Stanford, it would not have guaranteed a victory. Both
schools would have planned defenses against his skill set and perhaps the games
would not have been so close. As it was, your QB played well and set the stage
for Utah having the chance to win both games. Stop with the "woulda,
coulda, shoulda" comments that you (rightly) complain about BYU fans making.
BlueCoug - Provo, UTOct. 16, 2017 2:32 p.m."BYU needs to
win out to get a bowl bid."-----Your words exactly. No they
don't; they could get a bowl at 6-7. You seem to get upset when called out
for mis-information. Kind of like when you state Mika was a lock to be a lottery
pick. That will always be my favorite. A simple I stand corrected will suffice.
No need to throw a temper tantrum.
The cougars should sincerely hope they don't play Stanford. They would be
thoroughly annihilated. Bryce Love would probably go over 200 yards against
Naval VetI'm predicting that the Utes will once again finish in
the middle of the PAC 12 South and play in another meaningless bowl against
another mediocre bowl opponent.
Bleacher Report has Utah playing Georgia Tech(6-5 or 5-6?) in the Sun Bowl.
re: BlueCoug "BYU needs to win out to get a bowl bid."re:
Spokane Ute "Actually they don't; 6-7 is bowl eligiable [sic]. A little
research goes a long ways but from experience, I know that's foreign to
you."I never said "bowl eligible", I said "to get a
bowl bid".Without a 2017 bowl tie-in, BYU would have to get an
at large bid to a bowl, which I think would be very doubtful with a 6-7
record.Of course, understanding such a subtle difference is foreign
london_josh:Palm may be predicting that the cougars go to the Foster
Farms Bowl, but I'm predicting they won't. So between he and I, whom
do you think is correct?PS: If you think it's ME, then why the
BYU fans....gotta love em'!!
Wait. So they are predicting . . . that despite the doom and gloom . . . BYU is
still predicted to go to the same bowl game [the] Utes went to last year . . .
?"jelly-red rash:Keep waiting, because BYU-P was
predicted--in more than these pages--to win 9 to 13 games and beat Utah. How'd that work out for you?
Right now it looks like BYU's critical game will be Fresno State. they
have a good QB and starting to score points. Hawaii and UNLV has some flashes
of success early, but have not done well lately. UMass, E Carolina and Portland
State are simply bad. BYU slid past Portland and should pound the other two bad
ones. Any loss could put the Cougs out of a bowl game and two would be
curtains. No team has ever gone to a bowl game with a 5-8 record. If BYU
players were talking trash as the Boise State folks alleged, then that should be
history. How can you talk trash with a 1-6 record?
BlueCoug - Provo, UTOct. 16, 2017 2:32 p.m.BYU needs to win
out to get a bowl bid.-----------Actually they don't; 6-7 is
bowl eligiable. A little research goes a long ways but from experience, I know
that's foreign to you.
BYU will be watching TV after Thanksgiving -- not playing. Better get used to
BYU needs to win out to get a bowl bid.Utah needs at least 2 wins to
become bowl eligible.As to which team actually gets to a bowl
remains to be seen.
SoonerUte"Ohio State and Penn State both in the playoffs?The two teams play each other October 28.The committee isn't likely
to go for a rematch.Besides which, they are both in the same division.Only one can play in the CCG (supposedly important)."You
obviously weren't paying attention last year when Ohio State was invited to
the CFP despite losing to Penn State and not even winning their division.The CFP committee can be just as fickle as the NCAA tourney committee.
@tomahawkWhit got praise for a gutsy choice, I think the same thing,
and Kalani did the same last year at Utah.However, much like the
loss BYU suffered last year at Utah, the 2 point failed.Now, for
those who want to call out BYU fans for claiming "moral victories" I
guess you can, but don't be a hypocrite, with all your jawing about BYU
losing that game you need to remind yourself, that Stanford beat Utah and USC
beat Utah.Good luck on the rest of the season.
Jon Wilner has Utah in the Sun Bowl,IF the Utes are bowl eligible.
I like Jerry Palm, but wonder if he phoned this one in.Ohio State and Penn
State both in the playoffs?The two teams play each other October 28.The committee isn't likely to go for a rematch.Besides which, they
are both in the same division.Only one can play in the CCG (supposedly
important).Way early for predictions. Plenty of chances for Jerry
to clean up his list.
Jerry Palm predictions literally made me laugh. Hey it is early and he is an
expert but ... maybe no PAC 12 team gets in the playoff but only USC gets a NY
Bowl while TCU, OSU, and OU out of the Big 12 get NY Bowl games? Utah gets the
Alamo Bowl over Stanford and WSU? BYU becomes bowl eligible and plays Stanford
in the Foster Farms Bowl? I doubt any of those things happen.
BYU needs to pull the offense together and win 5 of 6, that's all there is
to it. But they're also games that are winnable, I think.
The meltdown on the hill would be apocalyptic if BYU qualified for a bowl and
the Utes didn’t.A loss to the Sun Devils this week and the
Utes will be well on their way to their own 6-game losing streak.
@london_joshI had to laugh as well at the idea of BYU going to the
Foster Farms Bowl to play Stanford. It seems like everything outside of the
playoffs and NY6 are becoming like the NIT.
@VegasUte - Las Vegas, NVOct. 16, 2017 11:42 a.m."These
bowl predictions don't make sense at all. Sorry, Jello - but this
scenario will never play out. And you also can't use "they" as if
there are a group of people believing this will happen. It is Jerry Palm's
prediction only, and he didn't do his research very well at that. Have fun
following the byu cupcake run. Maybe, just maybe, byu can actually win the next
six games in the worst remaining schedule in all of FBS, to become bowl
eligible. Maybe. They still need an offense to accomplish even that."Haha! You are so easy and predictable. "They" is a generic
term so get yours out of the wad you have placed them. I actually think Jerry
(they) are/is wrong also. I do see BYU having a 50/50 shot of winning all six
and going to a bowl, but not the Foster Farms.I actually have Utah
with a 50/50 shot also of not making a bowl. They are a better team than last
year, but their remaining schedule is incredibly hard and they may only be
favored in 2 games. (3 on the outside)Not being a hater as Utah is
my 4th favorite team behind BYU, Maryland and UW, but I think BYU and Utah have
about the same shot to go to a bowl
Season couldn’t be going any better, eh, tommy red?Classic
BYU-hating post from a “Utah fan” considering it’s only mid
October and the Utes have already been eliminated from the PAC 12 South race.
ESPN -- exclusive partner of BYU -- also has bowl projections, but the Cougars
These bowl predictions don't make sense at all. He has byu going to the
Foster Farms Bowl as a replacement team, then also shows Oregon and Colorado
going to bowl games as replacement teams. Unless I am missing something, the
PAC would not have to be replaced in any of their bowl games if they still have
two teams that are eligible to be used as replacements in other bowl games
(Oregon and Colorado). Sorry, Jello - but this scenario will never
play out. And you also can't use "they" as if there are a group of
people believing this will happen. It is Jerry Palm's prediction only, and
he didn't do his research very well at that. Have fun following the byu
cupcake run. Maybe, just maybe, byu can actually win the next six games in the
worst remaining schedule in all of FBS, to become bowl eligible. Maybe. They
still need an offense to accomplish even that.Go Utes!Beat ASU!
Kercheval wrote, "Hats off to Whittingham for having the stones to make that
call. When you're a road dog, those are the decisions you need to make. The
play itself wasn't bad, either. Receiver Darren Carrington was open in the
back of the end zone. Williams has to keep his eyes downfield to make that
throw."May I repeat. Carrington (a.ka., our best playmaker on
the field) was open in the back of the endzone...Williams has to keep his eyes
downfield to make that throw...When is Huntley back? Feels hollow
knowing that if he's at the helm, we are one of the few remaining
undefeated teams in the land...what a difference a QB makes.
"Even though the Cougars are 1-6 so far, Palm has them heading to the Foster
Farms Bowl to play against Stanford."Sorry, but the only bowl
the Cougars are headed for is the Toilet Bowl.
LOL!!!This season couldn't be going any better. Utah once again gaining praise on the field, and byup making news for... Well,
So Jerry Palm is predicting that the Utes will go to a better bowl than
Stanford?I'm all for it, but I can't defend it.
"Even though the Cougars are 1-6 so far, Palm has them heading to the Foster
Farms Bowl to play against Stanford."Umm, your kidding me,
right?We'd certainly take it, and we'd bring a ton of fans
Wait. So they are predicting that the PAC 12 will not be participating in the
Playoff again and they are also predicting that despite the doom and gloom
predicted by our obsessed rivals and in a very down year BYU is still predicted
to go to the same bowl game your top 25 Utes went to last year to play a PAC12
team Utah just lost to? Wow. I guess we both have nothing to play
for. The only difference I see in the seasons outcome is we will most likely
get pummeled in our bowl game while Utah most likely will win. You sure have
left us behind.
It's a sad commentary on the sorry state of BYU football when the mascot is
receiving more favorable publicity than the football team