Kyle Whittingham shows 'faith' in the Utes in Saturday's loss at USC

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  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Oct. 17, 2017 9:30 a.m.

    "I'm getting more and more ashamed to call myself a Ute fan"

    Swan Ronson:

    Uh, mostly because you're a BYU-P fan.

  • eagle Provo, UT
    Oct. 16, 2017 9:54 p.m.

    I actually think there is logic in going for it and playing OT.

    In OT, you can get create a turnover, get a lucky break to win the game. But definitely for the most part USC was easily in better shape to win in OT. The Utes made a last drive but generally offense was a struggle where for USC it was marching easily up and down the field. From that end, the odds of converting a two-point conversion make sense. Whatever decision the coaches made did make sense and was defendable. It just didn't work out.

  • TouchdownUtes Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 16, 2017 4:11 p.m.

    Another thing, BYU fans.....stop comparing your team to Utah! There is no comparison! You think your 1-6 Cougars would fare better against USC in the Coliseum than Utah did? Not a chance!

  • TouchdownUtes Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 16, 2017 4:07 p.m.

    For you BYU fans who insist on comparing Utah going for 2 with you guys going for 2 at RES, the difference is we had a play, but Williams didn't see Carrington who was wide open, and elected to go for it himself, which was a mistake and not a sure thing. I mean, the leading receiver in the PAC-12 and you only throw to him TWICE in the entire game? Something's wrong with that.....and it isn't Carrington......it's gotta be Williams. Huntley wouldn't have made that mistake in my opinion. There's a reason why Williams lost the starting job. And I also have to ask......why not try Cooper Bateman? I saw him in the Spring game and thought he was great.....give the guy a chance!! Back to the 2-point.....the play was the right call, but the player was not.

    BYU's attempt at the 2-point win at RES was nothing but Taysom Hill going for the entire enchilada.....and he obviously didn't have a play.

    The only comparison is that the results are the same in both games.

  • B_Dub Irvine, CA
    Oct. 16, 2017 3:17 p.m.

    As a Trojan fan who attended the game, I fully expected Utah to go for two. That type of gutsy call seems to be Wittingham's calling card against the Trojans (four successful fourth down conversions against USC in 2016) and it's an identity that should be easy for Ute fans to embrace. Good luck the rest of the season.

  • Hugo West Jordan, UT
    Oct. 16, 2017 2:04 p.m.

    BYU fans (yes, that includes you Ron Swanson) are really stretching when they try to claim Utes are hypocritical because of this play.

    Ute fans admit 100% that they are less talented than USC. But Utah-USC has turned into a rivalry game and anything can happen - including a whole lot of stupid mistakes by USC.

    Utah had a chance at the end to steal a game from their more talented rival because of their mistakes. They went for it and didn't get it. Big deal.

    Now, can BYU fans admit that the Cougars were trying to steal a game a year ago from their more talented rival in Utah? Can Cougars admit they were only in the game because of stupid Utah mistakes? Didn't think so.

  • CougarCat Tucson, AZ
    Oct. 16, 2017 12:49 p.m.

    I was able to catch the 4th quarter of this one. USC scored the tying and then the go-ahead TDs as I watched. It seemed the Trojans had all the momentum and the Utes were folding. But then Williams, Moss and the line pulled out one more good drive - despite some funny stuff from the refs (i.e. substitution call, strange ball placement). Utes kept their cool and fought back to punch in the tying TD....or so it seemed.

    Whit probably knew the 2 point PAT would be their best shot to escape with the win. He totally made the right call. Had Williams looked up as he neared the line of scrimmage and floated a change up to Carrington your guys would be celebrating huge win. But oh well.

    The Utes exceeded my expectations Saturday night. About half of the Ute fans continue to disappoint with their comments. Williams and the offense made a real game of it when I expected them to fold. Face it - Utes weren't going to beat USC on the road in OT. Whit made the right call to go for 2.

    Your team did well....just not quite well enough. Don't pile on Williams, Whit or others. Just keep on keeping on, eh?

  • Ron Swanson Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 16, 2017 12:46 p.m.

    We're a bunch of hypocrites. Of course the 2pt attempt was the right call, the D was not able to stop USC and the game was lost either way. But holy cow we gave it to Sitake and BYU last year for doing the exact same thing...because that was the right call for BYU as well.

    I'm getting more and more ashamed to call myself a Ute fan, most of it due to other fans.

  • Minnesota Ute Bloomington, MN
    Oct. 16, 2017 12:25 p.m.

    Going for 2 was absolutely the right call. The defense was gassed and hadn't stopped USC at all in the second half and there wasn't any indication things would have been different in overtime. The Utes would have won if the QB had kept his head up when he was scrambling because he would have seen a wide open Carrington at the back of the end zone. The Utes didn't lose because they tried for 2. They lost because the QB doesn't make the right decisions in the clutch.

  • Jello is Good ,
    Oct. 16, 2017 12:24 p.m.

    @VegasUte - Las Vegas, NV
    Oct. 16, 2017 11:53 a.m.

    "65TossPowerTrap:

    "Faith without works is dead - haven't you heard?"

    So - what does that say about your team?

    1-6."

    It means we have the faith, but just like you on the 2 point conversion, we have no works. This is simple stuff. why am I having to explain it to you? Oh, that's right, there is that academic difference.

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    Oct. 16, 2017 11:53 a.m.

    65TossPowerTrap:

    "Faith without works is dead - haven't you heard?"

    So - what does that say about your team?

    1-6.

    Last place in almost every offensive category.

    Can't beat a down USU team.

    Horrible defense - outscored by 125 points in last six games.

    We need to get Austin Collie back to explain how this all works.

    Go Utes!

  • Laxman taylorsville, UT
    Oct. 16, 2017 11:31 a.m.

    I trust Coach Kyle. He has forgotten more than we will ever know. It was the correct thing to do. It is easy to be critical of the decision after the fact. I don't care about those down south and what they say. I am a Utah man for life.

  • saikeong Orem, u
    Oct. 16, 2017 11:24 a.m.

    Watching these men play a game they love is wonderful. Watching them loose is hard BUT when you have men who play and like what they do it makes the game fun. I love watching Utah play especially their filed goal kicker he is great for a first year player who never played but one year in high school. Can;t wait for their first team QB to come back.

  • Stringer Bell Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 16, 2017 11:24 a.m.

    thebig1: “didn't McBride have a pretty good year and Hill pulled the trigger on his exit? Oh Chris i think history needs to repeat itself”

    Any knowledgeable football fan knew that McBride raised the level of Utah football, but had reached his peak. Are you questioning Chris Hill’s move to bring Urban Meyer in?

    If you’re concerned about football coaches and whether they should be removed, you’d better be looking at your “new sheriff” down south.

  • JSKM1232 Sandy, UT
    Oct. 16, 2017 10:25 a.m.

    @Max-was-right - Mapleton,

    ". . . . . . The u was lucky to catch SC playing their very worst. Why not try and go for 2. Just not enough talent on the u"
    ----
    No, actually this game and the USC - Stanford game were USC's finest perfomances to date. Western Michigan and Wash. State were their worst.

  • JSKM1232 Sandy, UT
    Oct. 16, 2017 10:19 a.m.

    @TripleB1111 - Milford, NH

    "Going for 2! Highlight of my weekend. Hahahahaha!"
    -----
    Losing 35-10! Highlight of my weekend. Hahahahaha!

  • JSKM1232 Sandy, UT
    Oct. 16, 2017 10:16 a.m.

    @thebig1 - Salt Lake City, UT

    "didn't McBride have a pretty good year and Hill pulled the trigger on his exit? Oh Chris i think history needs to repeat itself"
    -----
    Relax! Even if Hill did, BYU couldn't afford KW.

  • Thomas Jefferson Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Oct. 16, 2017 10:08 a.m.

    Being a fan is almost like allowing yourself to fall in love. You could get hurt, but if you never let go and allow yourself the chance to be hurt you never get the joy of winning.

    Go Utes. Never stop never stopping.

  • Old But Not Stupid Moorpark, CA
    Oct. 16, 2017 10:07 a.m.

    I thought the crimson crew ridiculed moral victories.....tough loss.

  • Henry Drummond San Jose, CA
    Oct. 16, 2017 9:13 a.m.

    The Offense is certainly showing life against a talented team. Injuries on Defense really hurt us on this one. I'm far more encouraged by this showing than discouraged by the close loss.

  • Meckofahess Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 16, 2017 8:57 a.m.

    BYU fan here. I loved the effort and overall execution by the Utes in this game. To go on the road in a hostile environment against a really good team and play that well says a lot about the Utah program and coaches.

    Much respect here for a really good football team that I believe will win a lot of games as their QB continues to improve his play.

    Go Utes and C'mon Cougs!

  • thebig1 Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 16, 2017 8:21 a.m.

    didn't McBride have a pretty good year and Hill pulled the trigger on his exit? Oh Chris i think history needs to repeat itself

  • Juice Box Eureka, UT
    Oct. 16, 2017 8:09 a.m.

    I believe going for 2 was the best call at the time.

    USC had 3 drive of 85+ yards in a row closing out the game. They were dicing our defense. And just when our offense was finally clicking for the first time in the half of play, it was a good move.

    Unfortunate was happened though. I think it was a good play call, too. Better luck next time. Here's to hoping USC loses a few games now.

  • Carolina Ute Garner, NC
    Oct. 16, 2017 8:03 a.m.

    Our offense needs Huntley to return from his injury so we don't expect our defense to win every game. Defense is the one that gave the Utes a chance to win the game even though they could not stop USC the 2nd half.

  • TripleB1111 Milford, NH
    Oct. 16, 2017 7:44 a.m.

    Going for 2! Highlight of my weekend. Hahahahaha!

  • ekute Layton, UT
    Oct. 16, 2017 7:31 a.m.

    Max-was-right,
    You point out the obvious as there's only a handful of teams that can compare their talent level to USC...but where do you get that this was SC's worst game as it's been suggested that it was Darnold's coming out party?

    I would throw in that the venue was at LA Memorial Coliseum as we look at the competitiveness of the game that was lost on a failed last minute attempt to win.

    Feel pretty good about your statement? Let's consider what you said and what I pointed out along with the status of all the teams involved as we look at your game at Maverick Stadium.

  • Pipes Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 16, 2017 7:12 a.m.

    Hard fought game! Loved the 4th down play call! I thought that the offense got a little conservative in the third quarter but overall, a well coached game. Better luck next week!

    A Cougar Fan.

  • Samwise Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 16, 2017 6:33 a.m.

    That call to go for 2 at the end of a game rather than kick it to go in to overtime never is the coach showing he has faith in his team. It shows that he thinks that they don't have what it takes to beat the other team in overtime, but they may get lucky on one play. I get the call in some situations, and in this case it probably was the right call because USC simply is more talented than Utah and it was at USC, which gives them that extra advantage in overtime. It is just too bad for the Utes it didn't work out.

  • bano SANDY, UT
    Oct. 16, 2017 3:20 a.m.

    Going for two does not mean the coach has confidence in the team. It means the exact opposite. It means he thinks his team is not good enough to win in overtime. It was a stupid decision. We often can't score from the three when we have 4 plays to do it yet he puts our whole season on one play. Going for two to win at the end of a game hardly ever works. Kick the extra point and take your chances in overtime. Yes USC had several long scoring drives but every one of them included converting long third downs. In overtime each team starts from the 25. USC could turn the ball over, who knows, it is just different when each team is starting from the 25. It was not a courageous call. It was a call made out of lack of confidence in your team to get it done in overtime.

  • 65TossPowerTrap Salmon, ID
    Oct. 15, 2017 11:01 p.m.

    Faith without works is dead - haven't you heard?

  • Max-was-right Mapleton, UT
    Oct. 15, 2017 10:57 p.m.

    It was clear that Whittingham knew he didn't have the talent to beat SC in overtime and this is the reason for going for two. The u was lucky to catch SC playing their very worst. Why not try and go for 2. Just not enough talent on the u.

  • CH Cougar PLEASANT GROVE, UT
    Oct. 15, 2017 10:41 p.m.

    I don't think going for 2 was the best decision at the end...unless the offenses are completely dominant defense can usually come up with one big play... BYU learned this the hard way at Boise State and at Utah.

  • utahute69 Laguna Niguel, CA
    Oct. 15, 2017 10:31 p.m.

    I saw plays, at the game, that would have seldom happened, under similar circumstances, in the past. Utah has become less predictable striking faster and deeper with a balance run/pass game. The coach is still a classic conservative hard nose guy, but he has made good advancements this year. The selection of Huntley was huge and gutty play calling in LA was uplifting for a fan. Oh, and given the momentum USC had in the forth quarter, Whitt made the right call. The entire team played well including Wright. SC, is loaded with talent and had a QB that took over the game.

  • JapanCougar Layton, UT
    Oct. 15, 2017 9:24 p.m.

    It was the right decision to go for two and a good play call. You have yourselves a great coach in Whittingham.

  • southpaw 2 Kaysville, UT
    Oct. 15, 2017 7:30 p.m.

    it's no secret, that it hurts when you are on the losing end. However, I'm thrilled to death about the play calling from Coach Taylor, and the balance it gives the Utes. We now have , both, a running game along with a passing game. Williams isn't quite the decision maker that our 1st team QB is, which illustrates the need for a good QB on any football team. As to the decision by the coach to go for it instead of kicking the extra point, is a judgement call, and all armchair QB's will be split 50/50 as being right or wrong. I'm on the side, go for broke, if ya fail, ya learn to fight a little harder.. Go Utes !!!