BYU football: Mississippi State runs over Cougars, 35-10

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  • Truth & Light Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 16, 2017 7:18 p.m.

    Tears streaming down my eyes, laughing at all these comments!

    BYU is bad at football- that the funniest thing I’ve ever read!

    I am so happy and relieved.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Oct. 16, 2017 3:19 p.m.

    My biggest surprise is what a complete bust Mangum turned out to be. His freshman year he looked to be a record setter in the making. Since then he has been terrible. Not sure what his problem is but at this point BYU really has no other options. BYU is really crashing as a football program...perhaps the reality of being an independent has finally sunk in? Let's say next year and the year after are more of the same ... it makes you wonder if BYU and the Church will be content allowing the football program to be a laughing stock of college football OR if they just pull the plug. I actually think all athletics at BYU will die if football dies since that is where all the $$ comes from. Even the most argent and faithful BYU Funnel Cake eaters will stop attending games unless the tickets are $5 a seat.

  • TouchdownUtes Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 16, 2017 9:51 a.m.

    A couple of things BYU fans should avoid in the coming seasons:

    1. Don't make unrealistic predictions such as a 10-3 season prior to the season starting. It's sets the expectations too high for Cougar fans. I think if you check DN articles prior to the season starting, there were countless articles and speculations about the predictions for BYU prior to the year starting. Just let the season play out and see where you are.

    2. Stop comparing your team to the Utes. You're independent, and the Utes are in the PAC-12. The Utes play at least 9 P5 teams a year in conference play, which the competition being much more fierce than BYU playing 4-6 P5 teams during the season. The point is, it's not an apples to apples comparison. 7 in a row and 12 out of 15 in favor of the Utes should be the main indication. Frankly, I don't like playing BYU because we've moved on. The "rivalry" has become too contentious and bitter. As soon as our scheduled games run out, then stick a fork in should be done. Besides, I don't think BYU likes the continuing losing end of the game. That's not coming from a position of arrogance, it's just the reality of things.

  • idablu Idaho Falls, ID
    Oct. 15, 2017 10:52 p.m.

    Eastern CO Coug

    You echo my thoughts exactly.
    Not taking any chances just to protect your QB’s fragile confidence is utterly ridiculous.
    If Detmer feels like he needs to do that, then he absolutely has the wrong QB and
    he has no business being an offensive coordinator.

  • Eastern CO Coug Elizabeth, CO
    Oct. 15, 2017 9:25 p.m.

    Just a thought that the lack of live play in the preseason was a huge mistake. They barely beat an 0-6 Portland State. Pretty scary outlook for the rest of the season I am afraid. Looks like the defense is wearing down or something. No DL line push or OL push. Time to bench a few folks including Magnum. The coaches lack of confidence to throw on third and long is pathetic. What in the world do you have to lose at this point in the season and in any point in the game? Why run it repeatedly on third and long? Why not even try? If they have no confidence in Magnum's health or ability let somebody else throw it on 3rd and long? Ridiculous play calling continues. Tired of watching the safeties being out of place and being burned game after game.

  • NightOwlAmerica SALEM, OR
    Oct. 15, 2017 6:27 p.m.

    Careful BYU fans. Don't chalk up a win over San Jose St. yet.
    Regardless of their record this season, they own you.

  • idablu Idaho Falls, ID
    Oct. 15, 2017 1:13 p.m.

    @Cougar Forever and What to do—

    Don’t kid yourself. None of the games on the remaining schedule are “certain wins.” We’re talking about a team whose offense is dead last in FBS football, and whose defense is around the 30 percentile. I don’t think the statistics back up the assertion that those teams are worse than BYU.

    I admire your optimism, though.

  • cougarsrock Springville, UT
    Oct. 15, 2017 11:44 a.m.

    This team is not going to any bowl game this year and they certainly do not deserve to ... This could be the worst cougar football team in 50 yrs. Crowton was run out of Provo and he never had a season even close to this bad .... Upcoming losses to ECU , Fresno St. And Hawaii .. I would also not be surprised if UNLV takes it to them .... Time to clean house if there is any hope for the future of Cougar Football .....

  • Undefeated Hyrum, UT
    Oct. 15, 2017 11:22 a.m.

    No team who has a losing record should be proud of going to a bowl game. A winning record means something. Going to a bowl game with a losing record does not make up for the losing record.

  • at long last. . . Kirksville , MO
    Oct. 15, 2017 10:56 a.m.

    It may be time to throw Holmoe and his hire, Detmer, under the bus. Let Sitake hire his own OC and see what happens. Can't be worse, can it?

  • mdp Bountiful, UT
    Oct. 15, 2017 10:44 a.m.

    Holmoe's Horrors continue to lose quality recruits... and games. Bad decisions have consequences.

  • What To Do Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 15, 2017 8:26 a.m.

    Well I have said it before and will keep saying it. The cougs have been over matched all season long. The AD has placed the team in the position, yes the coaches are not together, it was clear that was going to be the case when Detmer was hired. That should have never happened.

    The kids are great group of guys, not as talented in the past, but because of the decision to be irrelevant by going independent the talent has all gone to power conferences and teams that compete in them - yes like Utah! You have to admit that the two teams have continued to go in completely separate directions over the past 7 to 8 years. It is all due to the schedule they play and the conference or lack of conference they are in.

    Next week the struggling cougars will play a team with a similar record East Carolina. Then San Jose State, and UMass. BYU should win. But lets not start the chest beating and say "the team is back, here we come, we just needed to correct a few things". The fact is these teams are really bad and have been scheduled specifically to give BYU a Bowl opportunity which is not deserved this year!

    The other three games Fresno, UNLV and Hawaii will be a toss up at best! 5 and 7

  • EPoint Roy, UT
    Oct. 15, 2017 6:58 a.m.

    What hurts more, losing by a point at games end, in it all the way, or losing by 25 points a game that was lost before it started by the attitude of just trying to not lose by too big a blowout? That's Utah and BYU football on this Saturday.

    Cougars are suffering from some malaise that has to do with more than athletic ability, and need to repent of their pride, their fears, and self-defeating behaviors, (penalties, mistakes, playing too conservatively, playing injured QB when healthy one (Critchlow) is available.

    Utes need to learn how to get the D off the field, work on conditioning, and stay cool under pressure. It is good that they keep taking chances to win the game.

    Football as with all sports can be character building. Nice to have a few victories, sugar that helps the medicine go down. Very seldom does an injured player help more than hurt a team.

  • sg newhall, CA
    Oct. 15, 2017 6:23 a.m.

    Like I said last is time to look for another head coach and assistants. Sitake should never have been hired as the head coach. He stinks. Detmer should never have been hired as the offensive coordinator...he is offensive to what was and stinks. I am not surprised that recruits are leaving and going elsewhere. Tom Holmoe should be fired. He pushed for this deplorably failed hiring.

    Cougar football is an embarrassment. Tanner should have been benched. He gets nervous when he is pressured and throws the ball into the ground. He isn't a scrambler. Sorry, but he stinks as well; and his receivers, although good athletes can't catch a ball even when it hits them in both hands...they stink. Please get rid of Sitake, he's way over his head.

  • CougarForever Holladay, Utah
    Oct. 15, 2017 1:28 a.m.

    We almost certainly will go to a bowl game (even with a 6-7 record) but it won't alleviate much of the pain incurred this season. Remaining games:

    At ECU -- certain win.

    San Jose State at home -- certain win.

    At Fresno State -- toss-up.

    At UNLV -- likely win (but possibly a tougher game than many of us initially thought).

    UMass at home -- certain win (although we actually may have to do more than just show up
    against UMass in view of how closely they kept it against Tennessee).

    At Hawaii -- likely win.

    7-6 is a reasonable expectation. 6-7 may be more likely. But, again, it is highly probable that there will not be enough 0.500 and above teams to fill all the bowl slots and even if we end the season at 6-7 a bowl berth is virtually assured if we want it.

  • Keyser Sose Alpine, UT
    Oct. 14, 2017 11:18 p.m.

    For anyone interested. Portland State is now 0-6.

  • AZ Blue & Red Gilbert, AZ
    Oct. 14, 2017 10:25 p.m.

    I have not read the posts. Do not want to. Was at the game today and that is not the BYU teams of old. Something is a miss. There is talent there but they look like they do not care or have no sense of urgency. Firing on 2 cylinders.

    I love the coaches but when you are down 24 points and you run 3 run plays knowing you can not run on them and then punt to me this is a roll over dead plan. We need a team to fight and scratch and go for it. I would rather throw the ball and get some yards and maybe intercept than run 3 plays for 2 yards each and punt. Try please. The fans would like that. Go out swinging not tripping.

    Something needs to change. Either players or coaches but both to me looked like they did not care. Being a fan for 40+ years this is not my BYU team. Time to take stock and have a come to Kalani meeting.

  • Riverton Ute Riverton, UT
    Oct. 14, 2017 10:03 p.m.

    For all the BYU-p fans that are claiming that they'll just win out and are giddy about playing six of those teams and make a bowl,remember you ARE one of THOSE teams

  • Utah Girl Chronicles Eagle Mountain, UT
    Oct. 14, 2017 9:52 p.m.

    There may be a couple high school teams in rural Montana that tackle worse than the Cougs but it cannot be said for sure. I've never seen so many half-hearted tackle attempts at the college level. This team is as soft as lemon meringue pie.

    Ghanwoloku should have run those interceptions back a lot further than he did. With that offense, you can't be holding the ball with both hands like you're Bronco Nagurski.

  • itswhatithink West Jordan, UT
    Oct. 14, 2017 9:13 p.m.

    Some of BYU's situation can be forgiven as over 30 players have been injured this year in ways that caused them to miss games

    i am sure many teams have many more players out this year and are still playing a decent game. Your depth chart should be able to cover a few minor injuries. That is what they are for. I am sorry this is just an excuse that has been used to many times and its the wrong reason for lack of good play.

  • 7 in a row! Ogden, UT
    Oct. 14, 2017 8:35 p.m.

    Nothing more to add here.

  • london_josh lincoln, CA
    Oct. 14, 2017 7:58 p.m.

    It's a disappointing season, but those who take some sort of pride in kicking a team that's down are pathetic.

    Utah is up on USC right now, that's impressive, but these ute fans, rather than watch their game, want to talk about how BYU's season is over.

    We all know that BYU's season is over.

    No real fan expected a win today, so enough about the outrage, at least we scored twice.

    Anyway, I'll still cheering BYU on, I think they'll see a bowl game. I also think that ty and kalini will yet be very successful coaches.

  • Henry Drummond San Jose, CA
    Oct. 14, 2017 7:40 p.m.

    Hopefully they can built on this and win some games now that the cupcake portion of the season is coming up.

  • SpÄter73 Hughson, CA
    Oct. 14, 2017 7:30 p.m.

    Did Branco see this coming and that's why he bailed? At least we have Cosmo to entertain and keep us in the spotlight. In fact, Cosmo may need to join Sitake on the recruiting trips. That should help secure a few.

  • kamaina Flagstaff, AZ
    Oct. 14, 2017 7:19 p.m.

    Yes it should say Kama'aina (Guess I'm not Hawaiian :) ) So what to say? I've thought that being an independent, with the contract extension with ESPN looming in the near future, that BYU needed a stellar yr....guess that won't be happening. I think the world of Sitake, Detmer and the rest of the coaches but something's definitely missing. Someone mentioned 30 hurt that true? Anyway, this is a slow death for BYU football. Recruits leaving, conference rejection, maybe it's a sign? If Ricks (BYU-Idaho) and BYU-HI don't deserve to have sports and the culture it brings (so money can be spent elsewhere), maybe the double standard should end and BYU Provo should not have them either.

  • CDM1525 West Point, UT
    Oct. 14, 2017 7:15 p.m.

    Dumpster fire is saying it nicely. At least those are contained. byu is so bad it’s getting out of control. Lol.

  • EightOhOne St. George, UT
    Oct. 14, 2017 6:51 p.m.

    yeah, memphis was soooo upset they won the bowl game, that they started a fight with the losing team!! nacua got what he deserved

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Oct. 14, 2017 6:13 p.m.

    Tough loss for BYU, for the good news is the schedule softeners

  • Tomahawk Red Miami Beach, FL
    Oct. 14, 2017 5:43 p.m.

    CaliCougar - American Fork, UT
    Oct. 14, 2017 3:07 p.m.

    When does basketball season start?


    Uh, you dont want that either.

  • Tomahawk Red Miami Beach, FL
    Oct. 14, 2017 5:41 p.m.

    junkgeek - Agua Dulce, TX
    Oct. 14, 2017 2:42 p.m.

    Don't worry. They'll win the last 6, get shelled in a bowl


    NO they won't.

    Have you seen this team? There are NO automatic wins remaining on the schedule.

    They have to win out just to get a bowl game. You think THIS team is going to win out?


  • Tomahawk Red Miami Beach, FL
    Oct. 14, 2017 5:39 p.m.

    Sore loser - Oakland, CA
    Oct. 14, 2017 1:56 p.m.

    BYU players have represented the University with class this season p. I would rather see class in a loss than no class in a win


    Name checks out.

    LOL dont kid yourself.

  • utahcoyote Saint George, UT
    Oct. 14, 2017 5:37 p.m.

    does anyone know, offhand, what the lowest season point total for byu football has been in modern times? think its at 66 total so far. i think the most is 704 20 yrs or so ago.

  • junkgeek Agua Dulce, TX
    Oct. 14, 2017 5:24 p.m.

    46 Utah players on the roster. When did Utah become this college football recruiting hotbed? 31 from California - not bad. 9 from Texas, 2 from Florida. Need to reverse the Utah and TX/FL counts if you want to win.

    Surely there are 50 LDS kids at top Texas and Florida who can play...

  • jimmer65 el dorado hills, ca
    Oct. 14, 2017 5:15 p.m.

    Enough with the “ lets be patient” with the coaches. BYU coaches have been pathetic top to bottom. I’m embarrassed by this group as a BYU alum. Holmoe needs to own up to his mistake and clean house. Why is Detmer still calling plays? Amazing that Detmer has taken two good QBs in Tanner and Taysom and made them both look horrible. A QB change won’t make a difference- new offensive coordinators might. Where is Sitake the great recruiter? Why didn’t he hit JUCOs hard for immediate impact players? Why are all our receivers 5’8 and running 5.5 40s.......I forked big $ for seats on the grass at BYU this year after buying into the hype and have felt swindled and robbed ....

  • BlueHusky Mission Viejo, CA
    Oct. 14, 2017 5:04 p.m.

    Clearly, the offensive effort was geared to protect Mangum. Detmer's play calling last year was good. But the players from last year are gone and the short recruiting season makes a difference this year. Still, I think the missions are a major factor. Recruits from last year won't be in town for another year. This lag makes it really hard to fill needed positions. If I were coaching a BYU team, I'd go after non-LDS players big time.

    This offense looked bad against Portland State. It has not improved a bit. That's kind of scary. Now we have a couple more key injuries on defense. I think BYU will be doing good to win three more games this year.

    @ tinplater " How about no class in a loss (Memphis comes to mind)?"

    I see you're from Arizona. I attended a BYU-Arizona game in Tucson, where the fans shouted "Obscenity You, BYU" over and over. As for Memphis, this was their second brawl. The first was at Ole Miss. BYU did not start that brawl.

    Go away.

  • Wasatch Al South Jordan, UT
    Oct. 14, 2017 5:02 p.m.

    When BYU was 3rd and 8 early in the game and called a run into the line, I thought, "here we go again." Even the SEC announcers commented that the Y was "very conservative" in play calling. Try something!!

  • JapanCougar Layton, UT
    Oct. 14, 2017 4:58 p.m.

    re: Co Ute,

    I realize you're just trying to kick BYU when they're down, but besides that, do you really believe that a team's record is a reflection of the talent level of the players and nothing more?

    So the 2011 Ohio State football team that went 6-7 that 3 years later won the NC had really poor talent?? Perhaps the coaching played a role when they switched to Urban Meyer?

    I said nothing of their conditioning. Conditioning and talent do matter, but coaching seems to matter most in college football.

    Simply put, I don't think this team was prepared for the season. Their talent level has not significantly changed in the past 10 years, but the coaching has changed significantly.

    I just hope the coaches learn some lessons from this in how to prepare for a season.

  • Wookie Omaha, NE
    Oct. 14, 2017 4:32 p.m.

    The truth:

    I didn't watch the game. Didn't care to considering how things have looked this season. To me, it's both the talent and the coaching. I've said it before, the defense isn't getting enough 3 and outs. Who cares if what the offense is doing. They should still get 3 and outs. The offense, well Mangun is too predictable but the skill positions other than Bushman are lacking and non existent. It's a shame but I think the recruits will start go elsewhere as is the case now. The Y isn't what it once was and nor will it ever be as college football has changed significantly since the 80's.

  • steve24/7 Sandy, UT
    Oct. 14, 2017 4:27 p.m.

    Well we did a lot better than I thought we would, no 77-3 mega-blowout, so there's that. Now we'll get to play some teams that are more our speed this season. Our team just doesn't have much on offense and our D is held together with duct tape and bailing wire.

  • There You Go Again St George, UT
    Oct. 14, 2017 4:17 p.m.

    6 very winnable games on the schedule.

    BYU should run the table.

    7 and 6.

    An ESPN sponsored Bowl Game.


  • Mountainman38 Idaho Falls, ID
    Oct. 14, 2017 4:15 p.m.

    Will it be 7-6 or 6-7? Even with 6-7 they could make a bowl game if the fans show up and show some enthusiasm (and the team puts some points on the board against weaker defenses). Not making a bowl is a killer not only for losing the extra practice time, but also recruiting. Is a coaching change needed? And if so, who would you hire? Gary Anderson? The coach at Weber State? Southern Utah? An assistant in the NFL? Some tough decisions ahead for the Y.

  • 54-10 Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 14, 2017 4:01 p.m.

    BYU is bad at football.

  • Silver Stingray St George, UT
    Oct. 14, 2017 3:59 p.m.

    Oh! Rise and shout, the Cougs have copped out
    along their trail of shame and gory.
    Rise and shout, our tears we'll wring out
    As they unfold their pathetic story.

  • Seldom Seen Smith Orcutt, CA
    Oct. 14, 2017 3:57 p.m.

    Independence is a failure, each year the schedule is a mishmash cobbled together goat rope, with almost no continuity or coherence.

    Jealousy, envy, and greed can cause one to make poor decisions. Return to the MWC as soon as possible, if it's good enough for Boise State and SDSU it's good enough for BYU.

  • Idaho forever South Jordan, UT
    Oct. 14, 2017 3:44 p.m.

    Please, please, please accept the glaringly obvious.............the BYU football team just doesn't have enough talent to compete at the level they keep trying. There are many Div II and Div III teams in this great country who have wonderful seasons and a lot of fun competing where they belong (I reference James Madison on ESPN this morning). Someone noted that the ".......BYU team of old would have......." I was around when the BYU team of "old" (prior to 1970) didn't beat anyone. Conditioning, intensity, etc are all helpful............but talent wins or loses.

  • BJMoose Syracuse, UT
    Oct. 14, 2017 3:44 p.m.

    To mightymite. 176 yards total and 29 yards rushing for the entire game is an over achieving effort and the offense is back on track?? Prey tell what do under achieving numbers look like??

  • Red Corvette St George, UT
    Oct. 14, 2017 3:43 p.m.

    Oh dear. This just gets worse and worse. Its starting to get funny now. How low can they go?!

  • JSKM1232 Sandy, UT
    Oct. 14, 2017 3:31 p.m.

    Cougar fans look at it this way, you've achieved a moral victory, you lost to Miss. State by 25 points, LSU lost to Miss. St by 30 points. By that logic you're 5 points better than LSU.

  • CaliCougar American Fork, UT
    Oct. 14, 2017 3:26 p.m.

    One bright spot of the game was that Cosmo did appear to win the mascot dance-off. I believe he remains undefeated for the year and is likely headed for the playoffs at a site yet to be determined.

  • Scott Farcus Beaver, UT
    Oct. 14, 2017 3:19 p.m.

    It's not even fun anymore to watch bYu lose.

  • Old Navy Provo, UT
    Oct. 14, 2017 3:19 p.m.

    Detmer is not the problem. The talent level is simply not there. BYU is over-matched. We should see better results against weaker non-P5 teams.

  • venicesurfer Detroit, MI
    Oct. 14, 2017 3:15 p.m.

    ... time to fire AD Holmoe. Start at the top. BYU sports are a shell of what they used to be since he took over as AD.

  • BioPowertrain Detroit, MI
    Oct. 14, 2017 3:10 p.m.

    @Hey Baby: no but sadly it appears Detmer is Doman's twin brother. I love Ty and can't believe we're actually dead last in FBS offense, when he was hired I would have believed in the chupacabra before I would have believed this would ever happen.

  • CaliCougar American Fork, UT
    Oct. 14, 2017 3:07 p.m.

    When does basketball season start?

  • at long last. . . Kirksville , MO
    Oct. 14, 2017 3:00 p.m.

    Didn't Holmoe get into the Utah Hall of Fame because he hired Detmer?

  • bshelt SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Oct. 14, 2017 2:59 p.m.

    Detmer is bad. Schmizmen

  • worf McAllen, TX
    Oct. 14, 2017 2:58 p.m.

    Not sure the Cougs could beat Bingham this year. May have to be a Ute fan, but I doubt they'll win today.

    Oct. 14, 2017 2:58 p.m.

    @taylormade1 - um ... explain to all of us how BYU could lose to Utah by 'less than a score'.

    @japancougar - yep it was all a lack of off season conditioning that makes BYU look slow and has nothing to do with the talent level of the teams they have been playing compared to the talent level at BYU.

    Personally I don't see any reason to pile on the BYU team or coaches right now. Fortunately the posters on these boards provide enough material for a lot a laughs.

  • flatlander Omaha, NE
    Oct. 14, 2017 2:43 p.m.

    I imagine Bronco is laughing all the way to the bank.

  • junkgeek Agua Dulce, TX
    Oct. 14, 2017 2:42 p.m.

    Don't worry. They'll win the last 6, get shelled in a bowl, and everyone will call the year a success because the announcers averaged one reference per game to missions and missionaries.

  • taylormade1 Springville, UT
    Oct. 14, 2017 2:31 p.m.

    Every game that this team continues to play makes me even more amazed that this team only lost to the Utes by less than a score and had the ball and the end of the game for a possible win ...

  • tinplater scottsdale, AZ
    Oct. 14, 2017 2:25 p.m.

    @Sore loser " I would rather see class in a loss than no class in a win" How about no class in a loss (Memphis comes to mind)?

  • no fit in SG St.George, UT
    Oct. 14, 2017 2:07 p.m.

    Perhaps BYU can schedule teams with a similar record to their's next year?
    Wouldn't that make the games more exciting?

  • 1984! Fayetteville, NC
    Oct. 14, 2017 2:03 p.m.

    Our defense is getting injured because they are never off the field.

  • UteNationAlum Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Oct. 14, 2017 2:01 p.m.

    Cougar fans, don't despair!

    You still have a chance to end up 7-6 and go to a bowl game by playing quite possibly the worst remaining schedule in the country. Then the offseason hype of winning a national championship begins anew!

    Things are looking bright!

  • Sore loser Oakland, CA
    Oct. 14, 2017 1:56 p.m.

    BYU players have represented the University with class this season p. I would rather see class in a loss than no class in a win

  • Oh Really? HERRIMAN, UT
    Oct. 14, 2017 1:54 p.m.

    Holmoe is having the same impact on BYU football as athletic director that he had on Cal football as coach.

  • slcman SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Oct. 14, 2017 1:40 p.m.

    Meanwhile, the men's cross country team dominated the NCAA Pre-Nationals meet. I recommend BYU fans start hitching their self-esteem wagon to the XC team.

  • Mack2828 Ft Thomas, KY
    Oct. 14, 2017 1:38 p.m.

    Keep your head up guys. We are seeing improvement... the offense crossed the 50 yard line.

  • Deuhnicejob Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 14, 2017 1:38 p.m.

    Let's not "pump the brakes" too quickly haha.

  • Oh Really? HERRIMAN, UT
    Oct. 14, 2017 1:35 p.m.

    Time for Bobby Ewing to step out of the shower. Please, let this all be a bad dream!

  • byufootballrocks Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 14, 2017 1:34 p.m.

    Biggest disappointment is not losing, but lack of intensity in the moment by this team and coaches, illustrated by the incidents at the end of 3rd quarter.

    We get an interception and score a touchdown - it's 28-10. We then recover a fumble on the ensuing kickoff on Mississippi State's 25 yard line. 45 seconds left in the quarter.

    With the momentum, do we strike downfield for a couple of quick pass plays to score, which the BYU-of-old would have done? Again this was before end of quarter, which would have made it 28-17 and put us in striking distance of the game and increased our momentum! No, no, instead we throw a dink out-pass, like a lateral play, gain nothing, then immediately go to the sidelines and burn the last 10-15 seconds of the quarter "conferencing" with one of the coaches.

    BYU, do you realize you could have been just 2 scores from winning, and with the momentum, going into the 4th quarter if you just had the daring to strike and went "hurry-up"?

    Some of BYU's situation can be forgiven as over 30 players have been injured this year in ways that caused them to miss games - as ESPN pointed out.

    But what cannot be tolerated is lack of intensity - giving up.

  • Hey Baby Franklin, IN
    Oct. 14, 2017 1:32 p.m.

    Family History buffs. Is Sitake related to Tony Ingle? Generationally speaking?

  • Mack2828 Ft Thomas, KY
    Oct. 14, 2017 1:34 p.m.

    BYU-P football has become so pathetic and low energy. It's contagious... I'm having a hard time even getting up the energy to comment on it anymore.

  • idablu Idaho Falls, ID
    Oct. 14, 2017 1:30 p.m.

    Detmer seems more intent on protecting his quarterback’s psyche than trying to win the game. Absolutely atrocious play calling. Mangum still zeroing in on his primary receiver and Critchlow is nowhere near his receiver. If Hoge is healthy, he should be the starter, because other than him, BYU has nothing at QB.

  • JapanCougar Layton, UT
    Oct. 14, 2017 1:30 p.m.

    This BYU team has no easy games remaining due to their lack of off-season preparation.

    From the first game of the season, they looked slow and tired which leads me to believe that they didn't put in the right kind of work in the off-season and now they're seeing those results. It's hard to catch up from that.

    I hope the coaching staff realizes that they failed in the preparation stage for this season and makes changes to how they prepare next Spring.

  • mightymite , 00
    Oct. 14, 2017 1:28 p.m.

    10 points is more then I expected. This was an overachieving effort by the offense. Good things to come in the coming weeks as this offense is back on track,

  • cougarsrock Springville, UT
    Oct. 14, 2017 11:58 a.m.

    A lot of quit showing early in this Cougar team today ....

  • CV Storm Hyrum, UT
    Oct. 14, 2017 11:52 a.m.

    A heretofore valiant BYU defense has given up. Sad to see. But what some weird play calling by Detmer.