In our opinion: The ongoing need for anti-bullying efforts

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  • blarsen BOUNTIFUL, UT
    Oct. 16, 2017 2:35 p.m.

    Regarding “Anti-Trump - Everett, WA’s” comment, most of the time Trump has simply tried to defend himself against media bullies and false accusations/’news’ directed against him. I for one love to see him defend himself.

    And many of the accusations against him have been taking what he has said out of context or are complete misrepresentations.

    As an example, the Judge Curiel case illustrates this point. Trump had very good reason to try to recuse Judge Curiel. The main reasons: Curiel excused Trump’s main witness in the trial from having to participate or testify; also, Curiel had previous associations with organizations in direct support of La Raza, etc.

    Regarding the tragic story of Lily Clara McClish, why on earth did she go public in such a dramatic way about her Lesbianism at the tender age of 13 in the first place?? Not a wise decision, in my strongly held view. One suspects that her mother may have encouraged her in doing this, and should bear some responsibility in the results . . . which of course, does not excuse those bullying her in any way.

  • NoNamesAccepted St. George, UT
    Oct. 13, 2017 10:02 a.m.

    @Anti-Trump: "America can not seriously talk about stopping bullying,
    until the LEADER grows up and does so himself!"

    Really? You can't do what is right until the person you despise sets a good example for you?

    Are we unable to discuss sexual assault until after Bill Clinton stops his improper behavior toward women?

    Are we unable to discuss victim shaming until after Hillary stops excoriating her husband's victims?

    Is Hollywood powerless to end its culture of sexual assault until after Weinstein corrects his behavior?

    The problem with being "anti" anything, rather than pro something, is that every issues comes back to attacking rather than building up. There is plenty in life that needs to be opposed. But even in the extreme case I think it better to be pro-liberty than anti-fascist/communist, better to be pro-love than anti-hate.

    You really think Trump who didn't take office until Jan 2017 is in anyway responsible for bullying in Moab (one of our more liberal communities) that started well over a year ago?

  • NoNamesAccepted St. George, UT
    Oct. 13, 2017 9:55 a.m.

    Who are evening moderators? 4 comments across 4 different stories last night and not one of them gets posted. Let's see if a 2nd try will get past this morning.

    Can someone tell me why bullying tied to sexual orientation is any worse or more notable than bullying tied to weight, acne, wearing glasses or hearing aids, stuttering, autism, being smart, being slow, not having athletic ability, religious beliefs, or even political views?

    Kids need to be protected from bullying. Kids also need to be taught not to bully.

    By focusing on bullying based on one particular characteristic--and why 13 year olds are openly expressing ANY sexuality in school is another, very concerning question--this editorial misses a much broader, more important message. Bullying goes well beyond sexual orientation. Bullying isn't about any characteristic of the victim. The bully will find something, anything, to pick at. That is the point that needs to be made, and the issue that needs to be corrected. Focusing on any particular characteristic dilutes the message needlessly.

  • Laura Bilington Maple Valley, WA
    Oct. 13, 2017 7:47 a.m.

    @water rocket wrote,

    "A lot of times those doing the bullying aren't even aware that they are being bullies. A lot of times, those who feel they are being bullied are being overly sensitive. "

    Do you not see the irony in these two sentences?

    You are saying that bullies aren't aware that they're bullying--and I agree with you 100%--and, in the next sentence you brush off the damage that bullying does by labeling the victims as "overly sensitive".
    Perhaps you are unaware that criticizing a victim because they are hurt by such actions is, itself, bullying?

    Please take your own advice and teach your children to respect all people including those of a gender orientation and / or religion that is different from yours.

  • Anti-Trump Everett, WA
    Oct. 12, 2017 2:33 p.m.

    America can not seriously talk about stopping bullying,
    the LEADER grows up and does so himself!

  • water rocket Magna, UT
    Oct. 12, 2017 1:52 p.m.

    This will be a short (for me) comment. A lot of times those doing the bullying aren't even aware that they are being bullies. A lot of times, those who feel they are being bullied are being overly sensitive. I believe that we need to teach our children better behavior, and this starts at home. I also believe that we need to teach our children better ways to cope with unkind and abusive treatment by others. Life is full of unkind people, and learning how to handle bullies, without becoming one is essential to a happy life.

  • a_voice_of_reason Woods Cross, UT
    Oct. 12, 2017 10:28 a.m.


    You've confused me. In just 3 sentences you managed to say the government should stay out policing bullying because doing so would be "invading people's lives." But then you follow that up with "People who can't, or won't, actually be parents and teach their kids...shouldn't be allowed to have kids." So, the government shouldn't be allowed to create resources and action plans in schools to address bullying when and where it occurs, but it should have the ability to determine which citizens can have children, thus preventing the problem? I recognize you weren't actually proposing the government begin regulating the bearing of children, but if we won't propose doing something that drastic to prevent the problem I'm in favor with reasonable methods to address it. As for the inference that large families are the problem, keep in mind that I have found large families often have the most disciplined, respectful kids. And I have seen plenty of families with one child that don't pay much attention to them. I think the most common family-driven bullying factors are single-parent homes, divorce, and poverty. That's a tough environment for a kid.

  • 10CC Bountiful, UT
    Oct. 12, 2017 8:12 a.m.

    What a tragic story.

    First Lady Melania Trump earlier this year announced an initiative to counter online bullying, which is an increasing problem.

    (Without turning this horrible story into another political squabble)... it would be good to find out the status of the 1st Lady's initiative.

    Our nation needs leadership on this issue.

  • imsmarterthanyou Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 12, 2017 7:26 a.m.

    Everyone minding everyone else's business is exactly what is wrong with this country. I do believe it is wrong to be a bully toward anyone. But I don't believe the government needs to be involved. Just making law after law invading people's lives is just as wrong. The responsibility for bullies is their parents. People who can't, or won't, actually be parents and teach their kids proper manners and respect for others shouldn't be allowed to have kids. That goes double for the family of 18 that I see at the store every time I go there. These parents are oblivious to all 16 of their kids running wild throughout the store. These are the kids with no parental supervision, even when the parents are right there, that grow up to be bullies because no one ever teaches them to have self respect, much less respect for anyone else.