"Eliminate racism, sexism, nationalism, LDS leader says "Sound like a great goal no matter your religion.
Nationalism is an ideology which unifies a nation by means of language, cultural
heritage, national origin, color of skin, etc. It defines a nation in a view
restrictive of a global community. A nation defined by nationalist ideology is
threatened by outside cultural intrusion into their cultural norms and national
traditions. The United States has a long history of aggressive
nationalism from the Native Americans, to the Blacks, to the Hispanics and
Asians, to modern day conflicts with individuals of Middle Eastern origin. Of
course, there are pockets throughout the nation where prejudice against any race
that is not one's own permeates. Even the Mormons were subject
to the aggressive nationalism of the United States. Of course, the Mormons
themselves had a degree of nationalist prejudice against "gentiles" and
blacks. Even today, in Utah, a degree of nationalist prejudice exists at a
micro-level within the state. This is a message both regarding
nations of the world and the "nation of Israel" which the Church claims.
You can't be a light to the world if you hold enmity toward those different
Nationalism is the evil counterfeit of patriotism. May look the same on the
outside from a distance. But closer inspection reveals the ugly truth hidden
under a thin facade.
The Pope made this comment about nationalism on the same day as Elder BallardRead article from New York Times"Pope Urges Europeans to
Embrace Unity, Reject Nationalism"
I was also confused by what he meant by the word nationalism, which has multiple
meanings, most of which are positive. I think there are evil forces in this
world that have 'hijacked' the word nationalism, I think the word he
is looking for is ethnic superiority, pride, or racism. Let us take the word
nationalism back which is also synonymous with patriotism and loving one's
country. When evil people call good bad and bad good, it's important to
stand up for good and call it what it is. Nationalism or Patriotism and loving
one's country is good. Racism is bad. We can both love our country and love
other countries at the same time. Don't accept the world view of the racist
and divisive as fact. Instead create a better world view, and believe that as
fact, rejecting the depraved views of the wicked and divisive popular media
talking points. If there truly are "white supremacists" or "black
supremacists" then let's be clear and call them what they are so that
our good words can remain intact. Otherwise other words like "Religion"
or "religious" can also be sullied by the evil and designing people in
Elder M. Russell Ballard misses the mark on nationalism. Nationalism is simply
that political philosophy opposed to globalism, e.g. 'America
First'... Also, holding up one disciple as emblematic of an entire race is
also an inaccurate evaluation. Each individual is evaluated on their own merits.
In the right context of course. No thinking one country better than another or
persecuting others based on nationality or anything else. One would want to
incorporate the scriptures also, which states the US Consitution is an example
for all the world, not the US currently, but the US Constitution. Also
Presidents Benson's comments on the role of the United States. Lastly
compared to Globalism which is a Godless, world government unconstitutional
disaster, nationalism is much superior in that context. But the possible
negative aspects of nationalism is what is being referred to.
Some commenters seem puzzled by what LDS conference speakers meant in their
admonishment against “nationalism.” Wouldn’t you suppose that
it might have something to do with the current political atmosphere of outsized
public fear of others and diversity and a vengeful attitude toward both legal
and illegal immigrants?
RE: Eliminate racism, sexism, nationalism. True,“Therefore go
and make disciples of all nations=(G. Ethnos/ethnicities)baptizing them in the
name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit(Mt 28:19)
,,(Acts 13:1 KJV)”.. at Antioch certain prophets and teachers; as
Barnabas, and Simeon that was called
(black G3526) and Lucius of
Gildas, that's why we need clarification because if that is what he was
talking about then he just made a political statement considering the President
was elected on America First. We are the greatest country in the history of the
world and there is nothing wrong with thinking so. It's called American
exceptionalism. 1 Nephi talks about our founding being inspired and I will
always stand behind it.
[continued]"lifted up in the pride of their hearts above all
nations, and above all the nations of the whole earth..."3 Nephi
16:10This is the 'nationalism' to which I think Elder
Ballard was alluding, and it is certainly an exhilirating, flattering, and
popular feeling. It was so in the Twenties and Thirties of the last century,
in many nations, and is still popular among us. How often do we hear the claim
that we are the greatest nation every in the history of the world. Oh really?
I think the land is choice above all other lands, 1 Nephi 2:20, but no
scripture claims that the people were.
The concept of nationalism actually has many definitions. Even if you look in
the dictionary you could still see a variety. I think it's safe to say
these days that the term has been hijacked by racially oriented groups and
should be abandoned by those who simply take a protectionist stance when it
comes to their homeland. There is nothing wrong with caring first about the
wellbeing of your country much as one would protect their family first.
It's irresponsible to portray the words of our apostles any other way than
what exactly what was said. They're talking about prejudice, not
A patriot is someone who would die out of love for his country, while a
nationalist is someone who would kill out of hatred for everything he regards as
alien.A patriot sparks the courage of his fellowmen, while a
nationalist feeds on their fear.During WWII, in European countries
occupied by the German military, patriots were in the Resistance, while
nationalists were in the collaboration.Patriotism is a virtue, while
nationalism is a poison.
One is left wondering if Brexit supporters of those who embrace Trump's
"America First!" agenda have place in the Church as Ballard sees it.It is certainly a departure from Alvin R. Dyer's thoughts.
"Always in my life I have thought that a "Yankee" or an
American was just about the greatest of everything in the world."Only slightly less extreme were comments made by various Brethren during
the Bicentennial celebrations.The terms "nationalism" is a
poor choice of words.Did anybody talk about obeying the law of the
land this time around?
Too often it seems we have Americans confuse "nationalism" with
"patriotism." This is not surprising, given that the U.S.A.
has always been a multiethnic nation of immigrants.In our
Americanized English, we often think of "nation" as being the same thing
as "country." This is not the case. A "nation" is a distinct
group of people, most often identified by ethnicity, but also potentially by
language or religion. A "nation state" is a country where the political
borders primarily consist of an overwhelming majority of an
ethnic/religious/linguistic group. Think Japan, for example.The
United States is not, nor has it ever been a nation state. It is a united
country, built up of many ethnic, religious, and linguistic backgrounds.
However, nationalism has become pervasive as certain groups in the country have
tried to pretend that America is/should be a white, Christian, English-speaking
"nation."Nationalism is divisive and bad. Patriotism is good
- it is a love for your land, and a desire to help its prosperity, and in
service to all "nations" who live therein.
I'd also like clarification as to what he meant by nationalism. Is it
contained to hate groups or does it include believing in American
exceptionalism? Pride in living in the greatest country on earth? Belief in
putting our national interests first?
Elder Ballard's message was clear. No need to try and discern what he meant
by nationalism. Trying to say it is justifiable in certain conditions is not
accepting what he clearly stated. The same for racism and sexism. "No
That "nationalism" one may require a Gospel Topics essay.The
Book of Mormon calls this hemisphere "choice above all other lands" at
least ten times, sometimes clearly making it an eternal designation.One need not go back very far to hear the Brethren talk of American
exceptionalism and our manifest destiny.The narrative has added an
evil connotation with the term "white nationalist," and I suppose they
really meant supremacist instead.Is it, therefore, a sin to use
superlatives?Wandering into politics can get messy, and some
revisions may be needed as the meaning of terms evolve and global interests
If Elder Ballard - also reiterated by Elder Anderson - meant the nationalism
that Hitler advocated, I agree. However, every country should be proud of their
nation and should have the sovereign right to put their nation's interests
first, just as we put our families first, in the most fundamental structure of
society. Perhaps this very politicized word "nationalism" might be
better clarified. Excellent conference!
I think what he means by nationalism is the type of nationalism that favors one
race over another. The Nephites joined with the Mulekites and constantly sought
to bring back the Lamanites to the truth of the gospel. Being patriotic and
fighting in the defense of one's country is not the type of nationalism
Brother Ballard is talking about here. We can't be tone deaf to what is
going on in our country right now, how the country is being divided along racial
lines. We must reject white nationalism. We are all brothers and sisters,
children of the same God. Regarding Moroni's intentions, he said, in Alma
54:13 "... Ye have sought to murder us, and we have only sought to defend
ourselves..." In Alma 55:19, it says "... but he delighted in the
saving of his people from destruction; and for this cause he might not bring
upon himself injustice, he would not fall upon the Lamanites and destroy them in
their drunkenness." The Nephites united with the Lamanites in their fight
against the Gadianton robbers. In Mosiah 9, Zeniff described how when he saw the
good among the Lamanites he had no desire to destroy them. In 2 Nephi 26 it says
God inviteth all to come unto him... black and white...