Eliminate racism, sexism, nationalism, LDS leader says Sunday afternoon

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  • 212degrees Williams, AZ
    Oct. 5, 2017 4:47 p.m.

    "Eliminate racism, sexism, nationalism, LDS leader says "

    Sound like a great goal no matter your religion.

  • Reflectere Utah, UT
    Oct. 4, 2017 12:31 p.m.

    Nationalism is an ideology which unifies a nation by means of language, cultural heritage, national origin, color of skin, etc. It defines a nation in a view restrictive of a global community. A nation defined by nationalist ideology is threatened by outside cultural intrusion into their cultural norms and national traditions.

    The United States has a long history of aggressive nationalism from the Native Americans, to the Blacks, to the Hispanics and Asians, to modern day conflicts with individuals of Middle Eastern origin. Of course, there are pockets throughout the nation where prejudice against any race that is not one's own permeates.

    Even the Mormons were subject to the aggressive nationalism of the United States. Of course, the Mormons themselves had a degree of nationalist prejudice against "gentiles" and blacks. Even today, in Utah, a degree of nationalist prejudice exists at a micro-level within the state.

    This is a message both regarding nations of the world and the "nation of Israel" which the Church claims. You can't be a light to the world if you hold enmity toward those different from yourself.

  • mancan HC, UT
    Oct. 4, 2017 5:04 a.m.

    Nationalism is the evil counterfeit of patriotism. May look the same on the outside from a distance. But closer inspection reveals the ugly truth hidden under a thin facade.

  • J7 Soldotna, AK
    Oct. 3, 2017 10:13 a.m.

    The Pope made this comment about nationalism on the same day as Elder Ballard

    Read article from New York Times
    "Pope Urges Europeans to Embrace Unity, Reject Nationalism"

  • UXSpecialist Mesa, AZ
    Oct. 3, 2017 8:53 a.m.

    I was also confused by what he meant by the word nationalism, which has multiple meanings, most of which are positive. I think there are evil forces in this world that have 'hijacked' the word nationalism, I think the word he is looking for is ethnic superiority, pride, or racism. Let us take the word nationalism back which is also synonymous with patriotism and loving one's country. When evil people call good bad and bad good, it's important to stand up for good and call it what it is. Nationalism or Patriotism and loving one's country is good. Racism is bad. We can both love our country and love other countries at the same time. Don't accept the world view of the racist and divisive as fact. Instead create a better world view, and believe that as fact, rejecting the depraved views of the wicked and divisive popular media talking points. If there truly are "white supremacists" or "black supremacists" then let's be clear and call them what they are so that our good words can remain intact. Otherwise other words like "Religion" or "religious" can also be sullied by the evil and designing people in this world.

  • Heimdallr Gulf Shores, AL
    Oct. 3, 2017 8:46 a.m.

    Elder M. Russell Ballard misses the mark on nationalism. Nationalism is simply that political philosophy opposed to globalism, e.g. 'America First'... Also, holding up one disciple as emblematic of an entire race is also an inaccurate evaluation. Each individual is evaluated on their own merits.

  • rubbergoose Bountiful, UT
    Oct. 2, 2017 6:12 p.m.

    In the right context of course. No thinking one country better than another or persecuting others based on nationality or anything else. One would want to incorporate the scriptures also, which states the US Consitution is an example for all the world, not the US currently, but the US Constitution. Also Presidents Benson's comments on the role of the United States. Lastly compared to Globalism which is a Godless, world government unconstitutional disaster, nationalism is much superior in that context. But the possible negative aspects of nationalism is what is being referred to.

  • Ajax Mapleton, UT
    Oct. 2, 2017 4:42 p.m.

    Some commenters seem puzzled by what LDS conference speakers meant in their admonishment against “nationalism.” Wouldn’t you suppose that it might have something to do with the current political atmosphere of outsized public fear of others and diversity and a vengeful attitude toward both legal and illegal immigrants?

  • CMTM , 00
    Oct. 2, 2017 12:38 p.m.

    RE: Eliminate racism, sexism, nationalism. True,

    “Therefore go and make disciples of all nations=(G. Ethnos/ethnicities)baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit(Mt 28:19) E.g…,,(Acts 13:1 KJV)”.. at Antioch certain prophets and teachers; as Barnabas, and Simeon that was called …(black G3526) and Lucius of Cyrene… and Saul.”

  • Natch South Jordan, UT
    Oct. 2, 2017 11:04 a.m.

    Gildas, that's why we need clarification because if that is what he was talking about then he just made a political statement considering the President was elected on America First. We are the greatest country in the history of the world and there is nothing wrong with thinking so. It's called American exceptionalism. 1 Nephi talks about our founding being inspired and I will always stand behind it.

  • Gildas LOGAN, UT
    Oct. 2, 2017 9:58 a.m.

    [continued]

    "lifted up in the pride of their hearts above all nations, and above all the nations of the whole earth..."
    3 Nephi 16:10

    This is the 'nationalism' to which I think Elder Ballard was alluding, and it is certainly an exhilirating, flattering, and popular feeling. It was so in the Twenties and Thirties of the last century, in many nations, and is still popular among us. How often do we hear the claim that we are the greatest nation every in the history of the world. Oh really? I think the land is choice above all other lands, 1 Nephi 2:20, but no scripture claims that the people were.

  • doitytoilette Austin, TX
    Oct. 2, 2017 9:32 a.m.

    The concept of nationalism actually has many definitions. Even if you look in the dictionary you could still see a variety. I think it's safe to say these days that the term has been hijacked by racially oriented groups and should be abandoned by those who simply take a protectionist stance when it comes to their homeland. There is nothing wrong with caring first about the wellbeing of your country much as one would protect their family first. It's irresponsible to portray the words of our apostles any other way than what exactly what was said. They're talking about prejudice, not protecting yourself.

  • Laurent Lechifflart Saint-Vallier, France
    Oct. 2, 2017 8:17 a.m.

    A patriot is someone who would die out of love for his country, while a nationalist is someone who would kill out of hatred for everything he regards as alien.

    A patriot sparks the courage of his fellowmen, while a nationalist feeds on their fear.

    During WWII, in European countries occupied by the German military, patriots were in the Resistance, while nationalists were in the collaboration.

    Patriotism is a virtue, while nationalism is a poison.

  • Third try screen name Mapleton, UT
    Oct. 2, 2017 7:34 a.m.

    One is left wondering if Brexit supporters of those who embrace Trump's "America First!" agenda have place in the Church as Ballard sees it.

    It is certainly a departure from Alvin R. Dyer's thoughts. "Always in
    my life I have thought that a "Yankee" or an American was
    just about the greatest of everything in the world."

    Only slightly less extreme were comments made by various Brethren during the Bicentennial celebrations.

    The terms "nationalism" is a poor choice of words.

    Did anybody talk about obeying the law of the land this time around?

  • It Begins In Utah Logan, UT
    Oct. 2, 2017 1:44 a.m.

    Too often it seems we have Americans confuse "nationalism" with "patriotism."

    This is not surprising, given that the U.S.A. has always been a multiethnic nation of immigrants.

    In our Americanized English, we often think of "nation" as being the same thing as "country." This is not the case. A "nation" is a distinct group of people, most often identified by ethnicity, but also potentially by language or religion. A "nation state" is a country where the political borders primarily consist of an overwhelming majority of an ethnic/religious/linguistic group. Think Japan, for example.

    The United States is not, nor has it ever been a nation state. It is a united country, built up of many ethnic, religious, and linguistic backgrounds. However, nationalism has become pervasive as certain groups in the country have tried to pretend that America is/should be a white, Christian, English-speaking "nation."

    Nationalism is divisive and bad. Patriotism is good - it is a love for your land, and a desire to help its prosperity, and in service to all "nations" who live therein.

  • Natch South Jordan, UT
    Oct. 1, 2017 11:59 p.m.

    I'd also like clarification as to what he meant by nationalism. Is it contained to hate groups or does it include believing in American exceptionalism? Pride in living in the greatest country on earth? Belief in putting our national interests first?

  • hobblecreek CA, 00
    Oct. 1, 2017 9:14 p.m.

    Elder Ballard's message was clear. No need to try and discern what he meant by nationalism. Trying to say it is justifiable in certain conditions is not accepting what he clearly stated. The same for racism and sexism. "No excuses"

  • Third try screen name Mapleton, UT
    Oct. 1, 2017 5:27 p.m.

    That "nationalism" one may require a Gospel Topics essay.

    The Book of Mormon calls this hemisphere "choice above all other lands" at least ten times, sometimes clearly making it an eternal designation.

    One need not go back very far to hear the Brethren talk of American exceptionalism and our manifest destiny.

    The narrative has added an evil connotation with the term "white nationalist," and I suppose they really meant supremacist instead.

    Is it, therefore, a sin to use superlatives?

    Wandering into politics can get messy, and some revisions may be needed as the meaning of terms evolve and global interests call.

  • Cherilyn Eagar Holladay, UT
    Oct. 1, 2017 4:05 p.m.

    If Elder Ballard - also reiterated by Elder Anderson - meant the nationalism that Hitler advocated, I agree. However, every country should be proud of their nation and should have the sovereign right to put their nation's interests first, just as we put our families first, in the most fundamental structure of society. Perhaps this very politicized word "nationalism" might be better clarified.

    Excellent conference!

  • FireandIce Santaquin, UT
    Oct. 1, 2017 3:32 p.m.

    I think what he means by nationalism is the type of nationalism that favors one race over another. The Nephites joined with the Mulekites and constantly sought to bring back the Lamanites to the truth of the gospel. Being patriotic and fighting in the defense of one's country is not the type of nationalism Brother Ballard is talking about here. We can't be tone deaf to what is going on in our country right now, how the country is being divided along racial lines. We must reject white nationalism. We are all brothers and sisters, children of the same God. Regarding Moroni's intentions, he said, in Alma 54:13 "... Ye have sought to murder us, and we have only sought to defend ourselves..." In Alma 55:19, it says "... but he delighted in the saving of his people from destruction; and for this cause he might not bring upon himself injustice, he would not fall upon the Lamanites and destroy them in their drunkenness." The Nephites united with the Lamanites in their fight against the Gadianton robbers. In Mosiah 9, Zeniff described how when he saw the good among the Lamanites he had no desire to destroy them. In 2 Nephi 26 it says God inviteth all to come unto him... black and white...