8 takeaways from Trump's aggressive and threatening U.N. speech

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  • rubbergoose Bountiful, UT
    Sept. 22, 2017 9:50 a.m.

    This is what an alpha male looks like. They are not extinct. In Margaret Thatcher, the UK had an Alpha Female. If you don't stand up for yourself you will get pushed around. If the US doesn't stand up for itself it gets pushed around. It has gotten pushed around. No time like the present to put an end to this.

  • bassoonlady OREM, UT
    Sept. 22, 2017 9:48 a.m.

    hmm. increase in immorality/acceptance of it, natural disasters galore, rumors/threats of nuclear warfare (with the possibility that two hotheads will make it a reality), all we seem to be missing are the plagues.....
    Anybody else thinking this?

  • Furry1993 Ogden, UT
    Sept. 21, 2017 12:55 p.m.

    Donnie is a delusional rabble-rouser and bully. He clearly is a nutcase, and a disaster looking for a place to happen. I truly wish there was a legal way to remove him from office -- shame hi to resign, impeach him, Amendment 25 Section 4, etc. He is truly a disaster that has found a place to happen, and we will all suffer as a result unless and until a legal way to remove him from office can be found. Hopefully Bob Mueller can find Donnie's machinations, and hold him accountable for them. And impeach the rest of his administration in the process -- they're as much of a disaster looking for place to happen as Donnie is.

  • Joe Leaphorn Phoenix, AZ
    Sept. 21, 2017 3:08 a.m.

    worf - McAllen, TX
    Sept. 20, 2017 6:16 p.m.

    "If not for weak leadership, we wouldn't have . . . "

    Are you talking about Donald Trump? You must be since he is the leader and he has control of government with a Republican Congress and Republican Supreme Court. He has everything he needs to take command and rule the American people without interference.

    What was it Trump said he would do on his first day in office? He promised so much to so many believers that is seems strange that he has only delivered on his Supreme Court nominee?

    Maybe he doesn't have the right Republicans in place to do all the things you want, but that becomes less a leadership issue than a political issue. Certainly many Trump people want only Trump legislators in place and that will take some time to "qualify" individuals for office.

    With Republican state governments setting election laws to keep undesirable candidates from running and disenfranchising voters who don't vote conservative, that would be possible except it might run counter to the Constitution. But the Constitution has never bothered conservative politicians when they want what they want. It then becomes a useless scrap of paper to them.

  • Mad Hatter Provo, UT
    Sept. 21, 2017 2:54 a.m.

    hankel - Butte, MT
    Sept. 20, 2017 5:30 p.m.

    " I think the president has shown him where they are . . . "

    Not really. The North Korean government has known for years that aggression will result in a major counter-attack that will probably annilate the country. This is not new to anyone. The issue here is how do you keep North Korea from developing an intercontinental ballistic missile that can carry a nuclear device?

    Donald Trump can't answer that question because he doesn't have an answer. North Korea developed the means to make nuclear weapons and has been improving them over the years with the United States impotent to stop it. Now they are working on delivery systems to reach the American mainland. There is nothing to stop this beyond the unthinkable.

    Whatever aggressive action the United States takes will result in devastation for South Korea and Japan. It appears that Trump is only blowing smoke with his threats of complete destruction. His words only embolden the North Koreans to hasten their efforts and demonstrate their ability to make mischief.

    Reminding a paranoid Kim Jong Un of consequences is fine, but diplomacy is the only way until regime change can be enabled.

  • Jim Chee Ka'anapali, HI
    Sept. 21, 2017 2:37 a.m.

    worf - McAllen, TX
    Sept. 20, 2017 6:16 p.m.

    "If not for weak leadership, we wouldn't have . . . "

    Please, tell us how? Be specific. Don't use platitudes about "great leadership". If you have a plan, tell us.

    Also, where are you getting your information? Of course, we could eliminate many of our problems if we allowed a dictator to control us and create a nation like the Russia or . . . what about the People's Paradise of North Korea?

    Donald Trump said he had all the answers, but when he got to be president he had no plan . Perhaps you might provide your advice on how to solve the nation's ills. Except for being obsessed about Barack Obama and his presidential victory, Trump hasn't done very much to accomplish those things you mention. However, he does Tweet a lot.

    But, really, tell us all about your ideas for solving both national and international problems. You say "great leadership" but how does that work? What are the exact policies that this "great leadership" will act upon? What actions does this "great leadership" take to, for example, solve the crisis with North Korea? Trump suggests destroying the country. How without destroying South Korea, Japan and American lives?

  • worf McAllen, TX
    Sept. 20, 2017 6:16 p.m.

    If not for weak leadership, we wouldn't have:

    * this North Korean problem
    * an enormous national debt
    * a weakened military
    * so many citizens on their knees begging for benefits
    * so much racism, and bitterness
    * a large drug, and crime problem

    Sorry folks, but gives this country the best chance for prosperity.

  • hankel Butte, MT
    Sept. 20, 2017 5:30 p.m.

    Trump's exact words were, "The United States has great strength and patience, but if it is forced to defend itself or its allies, we will have no choice but to totally destroy North Korea." Is this a threat or is it a warning? Is there a difference? Yes, there is. Just like a spoiled brat, Kim Jong Un is constantly testing to see where the boundaries are. I think the president has shown him where they are, and I doubt that Kim would ever cross the ultimate boundary. He is insane, but not stupid. I can't help to think about the relief that the Japanese and South Koreans must feel knowing a leader of a major country has committed to defend, not only his own nation, but their nations also. And just in case some of the commenters have the mistaken idea that there is not a personal interest here; I have children living on the west coast. One of Kim's goals is to have the capability to nuke that part of the U.S. Diplomacy does not stop a madman.

  • Cheshire Cat Bronx, NY
    Sept. 20, 2017 4:11 p.m.

    patriot - Cedar Hills, UT
    Sept. 20, 2017 5:15 a.m.

    "The divide between the left and right in America is as wide and deep . . . "

    Only with wingnut radio do you find this description. Most Americans are somewhere near the center of the political spectrum. The Far Left and the Far Right are rigid in their respective ideologies and may appear closer to your analogy and out of touch. From reading your posts over the years, it is clear that you adhere to a more Right position than most conservatives in my experience.

    Donald Trump came into office carrying over 40 years of controversial baggage. His business style, which he tries to duplicate for his presidency, is filled with bullying, aggressive negotiation tactics, misinformation, lying, cheating, and focusing on himself in any deal. He is not a "win-win" person. Trump always has to win and the other side always has to lose.

    Those who didn't like his ways before he ran for president continue to dislike his style now. His UN speech only continues his path for the past 8 months with nothing of any merit getting done. He lacks foreign policy knowledge and thinks that threatening and ridiculing people is the way to success.

  • Mad Hatter Provo, UT
    Sept. 20, 2017 3:46 p.m.

    Dutchman - Murray, UT
    Sept. 20, 2017 9:34 a.m.

    "Once again the DN reveals itself as a never Trump liberal news . . . "

    You didn't find the speech aggressive and threatening? Perhaps "friendly and loving" with an appeal to multinational cooperation to maintain global peace and economic growth?

    How do you interpret statements " . . . no choice but to totally destroy North Korea"? And let's put that in a greater context. How do such statements resonate with nations that maintain relations with North Korea like India, China, and Russia? You need to think your position through. And to say the DesNews is "a never Trump liberal news" source begs the question, where do you get your news? There are liberal news sources and conservative news sources.
    The DesNews is certainly not a liberal news source. That is, unless your definition of a "liberal news source" is one that doesn't always print or say what you like. Then it must be "fake news".

    Also, there are those who continue to be against Trump because of his past behavior who has never apologized or redeemed himself. Does that mean they have to now support him when they disagree? Or do you just call them "never Trump" and dismiss them?

  • Queen of Hearts Phoenix, AZ
    Sept. 20, 2017 3:28 p.m.

    DarthMaul - Vernal, UT
    Sept. 19, 2017 11:55 a.m.

    "Actually I'm pretty impressed . . . "

    "Rocket Man"? Really?

    Now Kim Jong Un will make up a name for Donald Trump like "Tweet Man" and we can all have a laugh.

    Perhaps Kim will now launch a few more missiles and explode another nuclear device, release more video of North Koreans marching with their military hardware, and expand the propaganda war. Nothing really is accomplished except increasing the anxiety of South Korea and Japan.

    The key is China. Not some bloviating, threatening speech given for his base's amusement. China controls North Korea and could stop the nuclear and missile program if it really wanted to. We know the North Korean government gets all their petroleum from China and does over 95% of its trade (both exports and imports) with China. But Trump continues to make threats and insults which does not earn China's interest in helping to solve this problem.

    North Korea holds its edge, not by threatening the U.S., but with tens of thousands of artillery targeting Seoul and missiles aimed at Japan. The country knows that starting a war will result in its obliteration, but it will do severe damage to its neighbors.

  • Jim Chee Ka'anapali, HI
    Sept. 20, 2017 3:11 p.m.

    Bob67 - Glenn Dale, MD
    Sept. 20, 2017 9:01 a.m.

    "A strategic plan to erode the isolation of the North Korean population from correct information about America, is a better idea."

    How does North Korea remain under the continued control of the Kim family. This is central.

    Kim Jong Un already knows how things are in the United States. He has all the information he can get, but will not allow that same information to be shared with his own people. He keeps control by restricting information and maintaining the propaganda state in strict compliance so people know only what he allows them to know.

    Information that comes from outside the state is "fake news". A half century of anti-American propaganda in a closed society keeps the people from thinking differently. They use Donald Trump's own words to support the government's position of an American threat.

    One can visualize North Korea as an extreme version of home schooling. Isolation makes the "truth" whatever the government wants. Also, questioning what is taught results in severe punishment. No one dares get off message.

    Enlightening the leadership does nothing to allow information to filter down to the people of North Korea.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Sept. 20, 2017 11:00 a.m.

    Bob 67, that is one of the best comments posted here in a long time.

    It's refreshing to see some good, common sense once in awhile.

    It's a very scarce commodity these days.

  • Dutchman Murray, UT
    Sept. 20, 2017 9:34 a.m.

    Aggressive and threatening? Once again the DN reveals itself as a never Trump liberal news outlet. Even Mitt Romney, a never Trumper, called the speech "strong and needed". Utah already has the Salt Lake Tribune bashing the President every day. I would expect something a little more positive from the DN or do you still wish Trump would have dropped out of the race back in October 2016 as you editorialized and Hillary was President?

  • Bob67 Glenn Dale, MD
    Sept. 20, 2017 9:01 a.m.

    Our current relationship with North Korea's leader Kim Jong Un closely resembles a hostage negotiation situation. Who are the hostages? Millions of South Koreans, Japanese, American troops, and mainland Americans!

    I am sure that the manual for dealing with an unstable person who has taken hostages does not recommend that he be threatened and insulted, like President Trump has just done.

    A strategic plan to erode the isolation of the North Korean population from correct information about America, is a better idea. Why not Invite Kim Jon Un to a state visit to America, patterned after the 1959 trip Nikita Khrushchev made? The former leader of the Soviet Union had the capability to launch a nuclear attack against us, and Kim Jong Un is probably more dangerous, because he is more unstable.

    The icing on the cake could be to throw in a side trip to Disneyland, an honor not extended to Khrushchev. Let Kim Jong Un meet and make friends with ordinary Americans, and he won't want to kill us. The North Koreans have swallowed propaganda about America for generations, and that poison needs an antidote.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Sept. 20, 2017 8:55 a.m.

    This is the kind of speech we should only be able to expect from the likes of Mohammar Khadafi or Kim Jong Un.

    Americans should be alarmed -- and ashamed.

  • Daedalus, Stephen ARVADA, CO
    Sept. 20, 2017 8:40 a.m.

    Shorter version:

    Theodore Roosevelt’s foreign policy = speak softly, and carry a big stick.

    Donald Trump foreign policy = speak loudly, and carry a small stick.

  • Utopian_Lie Centerville, UT
    Sept. 20, 2017 8:24 a.m.

    "aggressive and threatening" ? I thought the speech was spot one and the only one that should feel threatened are terrorists and countries that harbor them and dictators.

    How is it that the so called conservative newspaper consistently hires and posts articles from east coast (originally) liberals?

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 20, 2017 8:09 a.m.

    The biggest takeaway is that the UN is back on center stage. It is like the golf ball hitting Hillary Meme, he must throw raw meat to keep the base support including the epithet. They would vote 100 percent to leave the UN and yell jail them all.

  • LOU Montana Pueblo, CO
    Sept. 20, 2017 7:27 a.m.

    I thought President Obama was the teleprompter boy?

    I was very pleased to see him read from a teleprompter instead of looking down at a waded up pile of papers. {Do you see how stupid you people sounded when you capped on Obama every time he made a speech?}

    Trump's speech was raw and uncouth but it was to the point. I actually liked parts of it.

  • at long last. . . Kirksville , MO
    Sept. 20, 2017 6:56 a.m.

    This article concerning the UN speech by Trump is about as slanted and biased a piece of reporting as I have ever read. Many of the quotes used in the text of the article are absolutely taken out of context of the entire speech or in relation to prior words in the speech. The best example is the quote to 'destroy North Korea', but there are several others that mislead as well.

    This is nothing other than another anti-Trump article that is quite misleading to the readers who didn't listen to the speech. Just another example (albeit a good one) of dishonest MSM as it relates to reporting on Trump. If you are honestly seeking the truth of what I am saying, I encourage you to listen to the speech in its' entirety or read the text.

  • eastcoastcoug Danbury, CT
    Sept. 20, 2017 6:01 a.m.

    It sure does feel good to talk tough to a bully, doesn't it?

    The question is 'How far are we willing to go to back it up?'

    Do we really want to kill 25M N Koreans?

    Or is Kim the problem?

    The New Yorker reported a few days ago that the LDS Church had invited N Koreans to SLC and Welfare Square. They left feeling they have friends and someone who understands them.

    Hmmm. Wouldn't such exchanges be a lot cheaper and more humane than ratcheting up to nuclear war? I'm not saying it's easy or there would be guarantees, but it seems a better solution than WWIII, which it will be when we launch nukes at China's ally.

    The N Koreans and Iranians already know we mean business with Trump. We don't need a real fight (or July 4 Military Parades) to prove we're Nr. 1.

    Reagan got the Soviets to back down. Nixon opened China. Both were huge GOP successes.

    Let's give it a try.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Sept. 20, 2017 5:15 a.m.

    The far left see the speech as "aggressive and threatening". The rest of us see it as bold and inspiring. The divide between the left and right in America is as wide and deep as the Grand Canyon folks.

  • hobblecreek CA, 00
    Sept. 20, 2017 5:12 a.m.

    Trump threw meat to his supporters and they swallowed it whole.

  • Fullypresent Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 20, 2017 12:24 a.m.

    SHELBY135 - FARMINGTON, UT
    Sept. 19, 2017 7:12 p.m.
    Finally...... a real leader !

    Prepare for your nuclear holocaust. You will get that under your "real leader". Send your condolences to the people of South Korea and the innocent people of North Korea. Reread history and what happened to the people of Japan during WWII. Japan bombed us first so that was somewhat understandable. The leader of North Korea is a bully but he has not bombed anyone yet. We should not give him provocation for war. Two threatening bullies is never a good combination. Just because you can decimate a country or a few doesn't mean it is a good idea.

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    Sept. 19, 2017 10:50 p.m.

    Seeing his speech and reading many of the posts makes it apparent that the inmates are running the asylum.

  • hankel Butte, MT
    Sept. 19, 2017 10:41 p.m.

    @eastcoastcoug
    "Are we so insecure in our belief in our principles that we think the only way forward is by bullying and retaliation?"

    It seems to me that the bully is rocketman. There is no way to diplomatically deal with an insane
    dictator/bully. His people back him out of total fear for their own lives. Nobody wants to see the destruction of another country with the loss of millions of lives, but better them than us. I agree with Trump's philosophy - America first. That's his job as president.

  • unrepentant progressive Bozeman, MT
    Sept. 19, 2017 9:45 p.m.

    I am sorry to disagree with most posters.

    Our new President embarrassed me at the UN as an American citizen. He comes across as a belligerent warmonger in the Putin vein.

  • Steve Cottrell Centerville, UT
    Sept. 19, 2017 9:41 p.m.

    Those who are so negative about the UN are forgetting humanitarian services.... like nearly eliminating polio and measles.... from this earth. Those are important and probably would not have been accomplished otherwise.

  • kolob1 Sandy, UT
    Sept. 19, 2017 9:12 p.m.

    "I was proud of our president and the fact that someone is finally fighting for America instead of giving her away."

    If what Trump says comes true we'll see what you have to say to nuclear holocaust. Trump loves the stage where he can bully people but he doesn't have the sense or depth to konow that threats are for dead end roads. He wants to go home and replay over and over his speech and bask in his own self glory. What a wasted opportunity to preach about the values of Democracy and the values of capitalism instead of critizing everyone . Trump is certainly not a deal maker. He shows too much of his ego and gives away our country's
    " aces".

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Sept. 19, 2017 7:13 p.m.

    "And human rights means the right to be free. NK, Iran, Venezuela, Cuba............are those people free?"

    You forgot Saudi Arabia....and its neighbors. Why is Cuba evil... but Saudi Arabia where freedoms are way more oppressed than Cuba off that list? The policy is undependable at best, and bi-polar at best. How is it that Russia that is fostering and funding civil war in Ukraine someone we should trust, and yet Venezuela a threat to global safety? Why is Pakistan not mentioned as a nuclear threat, while North Korea is, despite the open harboring of terrorist... where the threat of nuclear power slipping into the wrong hands an ever present danger?

    US foreign policy has been inconsistent for 40 years. It has now slipped into the world of incoherent. If Trump thinks I'm shipping my sons off to fight and die for his "tough guy" wars... he is very wrong. Those who applaud this rhetoric better have family in the military... because it is very cowardice to support such threats when you don't have kin who are in the balance.

  • SHELBY135 FARMINGTON, UT
    Sept. 19, 2017 7:12 p.m.

    Finally...... a real leader !

  • Thid Barker Victor, ID
    Sept. 19, 2017 5:48 p.m.

    I am very proud of and grateful to President Trump! He is standing tall against tyranny and the enemies of freedom in the face of shameful domestic and foreign opposition! He has established himself as the leader of the free world! God bless the best POTUS in my lifetime!

  • TAS Tehachapi, CA
    Sept. 19, 2017 5:30 p.m.

    The speech was an appeal to the 35% who are Trump true believers in this country.

    5

  • Ralph Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 19, 2017 5:29 p.m.

    Finally! A POTUS who talks like a tough guy!

  • eastcoastcoug Danbury, CT
    Sept. 19, 2017 5:14 p.m.

    I don't know which makes me more depressed - the childish behavior of our president, or the crowd cheering him on from these boards who come from my same LDS culture. What did I miss in my 50+ years of LDS teaching that endorses such behavior in our leaders or in us as people? How can we pretend to be a missionary church when we hold such enmity towards the world at large? While our PR Missionaries in NYC and Geneva are making friends of these same UN Ambassadors and creating goodwill between people, some others of us would have them be our enemies. Why? I'm embarrassed to think some of them would ever read the DNews online.

    I read recently in The New Yorker that the LDS church invited NK leaders to Welfare Square and that they see us as friends. Why not try more of that and less of threatening, and see where it takes us. It doesn't cost anything.

    We do not need to threaten an entire people for the actions of one paranoid leader in NK. We do not need to unilaterally pull out of an agreement with Iran unless we see they don't adhere. This is not leadership. Having one set of values on Sunday and another the rest of the week is nonsense.

    And btw I am a lifelong GOP voter...

  • airnaut Everett, 00
    Sept. 19, 2017 4:48 p.m.

    "totally destroy North Korea" is over the top and extremely dangerous rhetoric.

    Kim Jon Un is the problem,
    and I will NOT support the deaths of 25 million North Koreans!

    Trump is the one the United Nations needs to keep in check...

  • casual observer Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 19, 2017 4:23 p.m.

    Were those threats to North Korea or promises?

  • jsf Centerville, UT
    Sept. 19, 2017 4:22 p.m.

    Vice President Joe Biden assured Israel that if Iran broke the terms of the nuclear deal, "we will act."

    "We are united in the belief that a nuclear-armed Iran is an absolutely unacceptable threat to Israel, the region and the United States," he said after a meeting with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who strongly opposed the nuclear agreement with Iran.

    Iran has continued to flaunt UN Resolutions by testing Ballistic missiles, and people like frozen think they have stopped with their nuclear ambitions because Obama said they would. How has that worked for the past three presidents that said Korea was being good and would not develop nuclear weapons because they said they wouldn't. There is no better evidence than actual verification, and Iran by agreement with Obama will not provide it.

  • barfolomew Tooele, UT
    Sept. 19, 2017 4:04 p.m.

    @ eastcoastcoug

    "What has happened to us as a people? When did we abandon reason for fear?"

    Although I don't agree with your assessment that we've given up "reason for fear," what has happened is that we finally have an administration that understands that the politics of appeasement and cumbaya hugs simply doesn't work with some people. Have you ever in your life seen a bully subdued by talking? We finally have an administration that sees that 30 years of negotiations and debate have only resulted in a feckless little imp that now has nuclear weapons and is threatening to use them simply because he doesn't like us. And another regime aspiring to get nuclear weapons and use them against us simply because we are infidels and don't subscribe to their religious ideology.

    We are the "beacon of Human Rights or Democracy!" I don't see us at odds with any democracies anywhere, do you? And human rights means the right to be free. NK, Iran, Venezuela, Cuba............are those people free?

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Sept. 19, 2017 3:57 p.m.

    there was only one BIG take - a -way for me with the speech to the UN. Donald Trump is NOT Barack Obama and America indeed is back in the saddle again!! Thank heaven!! Yes thank you president Trump for clearly stating that American comes first -- their jobs their safety their future. This speech made it clear why people in the RUST belt voted for Donald Trump -- America first!! No more apologies to the UN or forcing America to pay the bill for everything. That ugly chapter is over and good riddance! The wine sipping do-nothings in the UN got their feathers ruffled a bit I suspect and all I can say is -- its about ....darn....time!!

  • BYUalum South Jordan, UT
    Sept. 19, 2017 3:56 p.m.

    Conservative Lady,

    "Sorry, Deseretnews.com, but I'm disappointed in YOU for leading with the negative liberal view rather than sharing space with comments from each view. I guess this confirms this paper has gone over to the dark side and is neither fair nor honest in your journalistic efforts."

    You said what I have tried to say over and over about the Deseret News. You said it better! Thank you!

  • jsf Centerville, UT
    Sept. 19, 2017 3:55 p.m.

    Boy eastcoastcoug thinks John Kennedy was the equivalent of Khrushchev because he stood up to him. John Kennedy went to the line to oppose Khrushchev's aggression.

    Now given a president goes to the line to block aggression, and globalists want to withdraw and capitulate. Was the nation a Christian nation when it went to war against the Axis powers in World War II?

    Will a Christian nation stand by while dictators kill their own people and terrorize their neighbor states.

    Sometimes our belief in our principles requires us to standup and take a stand, rather than hide in a corner spouting false concepts.

  • Frozen Fractals Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 19, 2017 3:51 p.m.

    @jsf and barfolomew
    If you're right then the proper course of action would be for the US be to show the world that Iran is violating the deal so that the sanctions would snap back into place and a better case could be made for strengthening them, rather than breaking the deal ourselves and trying to sort it out later.

  • DN Subscriber Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Sept. 19, 2017 3:28 p.m.

    Great speech, long overdue, "speaking truth to power" as the liberals like to say.

    However, the Deseret News article is a good example of why the media is seen as "fake news."
    The biased anti-Trump headline is not supported by the story content. The only two congressional tweets cited at the end are both from hard core lefty Democrats. "Fair and balanced?" Obviously not, so why should we believe anything else in the story, or the whole paper.

  • eastcoastcoug Danbury, CT
    Sept. 19, 2017 3:12 p.m.

    Congratulations. We have Kruschev as POTUS and we are making bellicose threats that we will bury our enemies. We are no longer a beacon of Human Rights or Democracy. We don't see it necessary to win arguments with intellect or goodness.

    What has happened to us as a people? When did we abandon reason for fear? Are we so insecure in our belief in our principles that we think the only way forward is by bullying and retaliation?

    How ironic that many of the same people who want us to be known as a Christian Nation, adhere to such tactics!

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 19, 2017 3:04 p.m.

    The Trump doctrine is all over the board and notable for childish names and exaggerated claims. Hyperbole rules to appease the base disappointed that he even appeared at the UN.

  • conservative lady Ramona, CA
    Sept. 19, 2017 2:41 p.m.

    I was proud of our president and the fact that someone is finally fighting for America instead of giving her away. Our citizens deserve better than rolling over for every liberal give-away that comes around. He made it clear that America would always be available to help our neighbors around the world. I agree with his Syrian safe places. We can help them better by giving our monetary aid and other significant needs rather than displacing them and creating other problems of assimilation throughout the world.

    Sorry, Deseretnews.com, but I'm disappointed in YOU for leading with the negative liberal view rather than sharing space with comments from each view. I guess this confirms this paper has gone over to the dark side and is neither fair nor honest in your journalistic efforts. Maybe you plan to give the other side later?

  • Thid Barker Victor, ID
    Sept. 19, 2017 2:31 p.m.

    Have liberals thought of sending someone like Dennis Rodman to make "friends" with Kim Jung Un? Oh wait, never mind.

  • barfolomew Tooele, UT
    Sept. 19, 2017 2:31 p.m.

    @ Frozen Fractals

    "Pulling out of the Iran deal would be so stupid. They could start rebuilding their nuclear program....."

    You've got to be a bit naive to think that Iran has reduced work on its nuclear program because of the so-called Iran deal. The bulk of their nuclear research and development is conducted on their military bases, which is off limits to inspectors, as a provision of the deal. And to visit the facilities they are allowed to inspect, they have to give something like a thirty day notice - enough time for Iran to remove whatever evidence the inspectors would otherwise find. And, because of the deal, Obama gave them billions upon billions of dollars. You don't seriously think they're using that money to repair their infrastructure of expand their humanitarian programs, do you?

    Besides, if they want a nuclear weapon, all they need to do is buy one from North Korea. With more strangling sanctions on NK and the billions in disposable income Obama gave to Iran (your money and mine, by the way), I'm sure Kim-Jung-what's-his-pants would be more than happy to sell them one.

  • Jimbo Low PLEASANT GROVE, UT
    Sept. 19, 2017 2:24 p.m.

    If you loved Trump before the speech, you probably love him a little more now. If you hated Trump before the speech, your hate level probably stayed at the max.
    I think most of what he said needed to be said--countries like North Korea and Iran have improper nuclear ambitions and need to be careful about what they do. Other countries are chaotic and need to get their act together.
    I love Trump a little more now.

  • Say No to BO Mapleton, UT
    Sept. 19, 2017 2:14 p.m.

    Finally, the White House puts away the marshmallows and graham crackers.

  • jsf Centerville, UT
    Sept. 19, 2017 2:12 p.m.

    "Pulling out of the Iran deal would be so stupid. They could start rebuilding their nuclear program" Hey, with the 150 billion dollars Obama passed through to them, if you think they aren't building their nuclear program your delusional.

  • jsf Centerville, UT
    Sept. 19, 2017 2:08 p.m.

    The only thing that Marxism promises with any historic certainty, is the benefits of genocide in Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Crimean Tatars, Bulgarians, Greeks and Armenians.
    Seventy million Ukrainians. The Antifa thugs and gangs founders of the Marxist movement, destroying the Russian government.

    China and the millions executed in the name of Marxism.
    Cuba and the murder of thousands in the name of Marxism

    We listen to the anti discrimination efforts to eradicate and label all things confederate states as racist and bigoted, and yet, we have people promoting a life style that promotes the murder of innocents to create and maintain their economic system.

    To advocate this lifestyle is declaring the support of the millions of deaths in the name of Marxism. Denying it is the equivalent of arguing the secession of the southern states had nothing to do with slavery.

    Notice the defense of Cuba, North Korea, and Venezuela Marxist dictators.

  • LivinLarge Bountiful, UT
    Sept. 19, 2017 1:21 p.m.

    Finally, the varsity team has arrived at the White House!

  • Fitness Freak Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 19, 2017 12:51 p.m.

    Its encouraging to see SOMEONE finally stand up to the U.N.

    I only hope he follows through and DOES cut-off U.S. financial support if/when they don't get anything done - yet again!

    I also hope the swamp creatures/professional bureaucrats in D.C. who make their living from nothing but talk, DON'T talk Trump out of taking any meaningful action.

  • strom thurmond taylorsville, UT
    Sept. 19, 2017 12:46 p.m.

    Marxist

    "Useful material for Un to use, whip up the population."

    I'm sure your Marxist fellow traveler would have completely been pacified if Trump had not said that.

    In fact I'm sure of this act alone the DPRK will likely have state media constantly gin up rage against the US and its partners.

    I'm sure another first we will see is a military parade and threats to destroy the United States.

    Good heavens.

  • HSTucker Holladay, UT
    Sept. 19, 2017 12:44 p.m.

    "aggressive and threatening"

    Are you insane?

  • strom thurmond taylorsville, UT
    Sept. 19, 2017 12:40 p.m.

    This is a welcomed and refreshing change from the last 28 years of ankle diplomacy and dictatorship appeasement which has created the problems the President , and the world, is now faced with.

  • Yuge Opportunity Here Mapleton, UT
    Sept. 19, 2017 12:32 p.m.

    What is missing from this report is commentary from Herb and the headline writer telling us what is wrong with what Trump said.

    You float out his soundbites, but fail to tell us why they were wrong. To argue against what he said, you would need to defend Iran and North Korea. Do you want to do that, Herb?

    That's why you're called the drive-by.

  • kolob1 Sandy, UT
    Sept. 19, 2017 12:28 p.m.

    I thought I heard Trump state that we won't impose our will on any other sovereign nation. Here is Miami Herald ( a Republican newspaper) headlines "Trump threatens Venezuela and puts Cuba on notice" to change its' ways. Give Trump a few days and he'll say just the opposite. Like "We'll see what happens".
    For Trump to be meaningful then we must all prepare for war and oblivion. We have the President of the United States threatening total oblivion of North Korea and we have Kim, North Korean dictator, giggling all over his palace. Kim is a threat to his own people ,what do you think he cares about Donald Trump? Absolutely nothing. Donald Trump is a threat to his own people .

  • Daedalus, Stephen ARVADA, CO
    Sept. 19, 2017 12:24 p.m.

    Some standard rah-rah America pap, sort of tough-sounding, but too vague on any substance to take seriously. The UN delegates now know as well the average American that Trump's threats and promises can be safely ignored.

    Trump's delivery was perfunctory, no ad libs, read straight from the teleprompter. To his credit he did not pound his shoe on the podium. Just as with his inaugural address, Trump's utter lack of charisma and connection with the audience should give the world some comfort that he lacks the makings of a totalitarian dictator. So there is that.

    I listened on YouTube, and set the playback speed to 1.5x. Unexpectedly, this accelerated delivery made Trump sound surprisingly like WH aide Stephen Miller.

    You can hear the manically immature world-view of Miller in the cadence and sloppy mixed-metaphors. Miller's adolescent bravado also comes across in the phrases "totally destroy North Korea" and "Rocketman"...and the attempted joke about socialism, that no competent speechwriter would allow his boss to read on camera.

    Expect some standard political hand-wringing by America's more stable politicians, but Trump's speech will be forgotten before dinner.

  • Mom jeans man is gone Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 19, 2017 12:24 p.m.

    It's about time. barry cowered and trump doesn't. libs will always cry about being too tough. Being weak hasn't worked and never will. This article, as always, portrays trump in the poorest light possible. I'm glad we finally have someone in the WH that isn't afraid of their own shadow.

  • shadowfx Chandler, AZ
    Sept. 19, 2017 12:05 p.m.

    The UN has been and will be a THREAT to the American way of LIFE. The UN has done nothing to stop terrorism and has constantly blamed Israel for their actions in defending their homeland for these terrorists.
    We, as taxpayers, bankroll this corrupt organization. We get NOTING in return but headaches and complaints from other nations.
    President Trump is one of the first Presidents to finally acknowledge that America comes FIRST and he represents the People. President Trump will NOT let the UN bully the US into laws that are contrary to our constitution.
    The dumocrats think dialogue with terrorist will work. For 8 long years they tried and it went no where. They got stronger as a result as we as a nation got weaker because we bowed to them. Finally our President has had enough and is doing something about it.

  • Frozen Fractals Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 19, 2017 12:04 p.m.

    Pulling out of the Iran deal would be so stupid. They could start rebuilding their nuclear program, would have no sanctions, and we'd be in a poor position with our allies to reimpose sanctions because our allies would be mad at us for breaking the deal.

    As for North Korea, all those other fire and fury threats didn't stop North Korea from starting to launch missiles over Japan. They started that stunt after those remarks.

  • USA Citizen South Jordan, UT
    Sept. 19, 2017 12:03 p.m.

    I thought the speech was threatening and really aggressive to countries like North Korea and Iran. It's about time a US President led from the front! Great Speech!

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 19, 2017 12:00 p.m.

    "the U.S. “will have no choice but to totally destroy North Korea.”

    Useful material for Un to use, whip up the population.

  • Thid Barker Victor, ID
    Sept. 19, 2017 11:56 a.m.

    Finally, a REAL POTUS!

  • DarthMaul Vernal, UT
    Sept. 19, 2017 11:55 a.m.

    Actually I'm pretty impressed with what he said in front of the U.N. Now I'm going to laugh every-time I see the smiling face of Kim from North Korea. Hey there goes "Rocket Man Kim" sticking his fingers inside a candy jar again. LOL!

  • USAlover Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 19, 2017 11:46 a.m.

    Great words. It's called Leadership.

    These words seem aggressive because we haven't had leadership in 10 years.