'Call out racism' when you see it and hear it, Provo gathering told

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  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, UT
    Aug. 25, 2017 12:36 p.m.

    "The Deseret News seems to have no problem allowing racist articles posted, praising the concept of 'White Privilege,' which, as others have noticed, is simply the false doctrine of original sin dressed up in different clothes.

    Deseret News: stop the racist identity politics!"

    Yes DNews, please stop all these conservatives from advocating that people be judged by the content of their character rather than the color of their skin! Doing so is so racist and we can't stand it! Where's the nearest safe space?

  • HSTucker Holladay, UT
    Aug. 24, 2017 2:13 p.m.

    The Deseret News seems to have no problem allowing racist articles posted, praising the concept of "White Privilege," which, as others have noticed, is simply the false doctrine of original sin dressed up in different clothes.

    Deseret News: stop the racist identity politics!

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Aug. 24, 2017 11:28 a.m.

    in today's twisted , PC, twitter adicted society it really comes down to "what isn't racsim" rather than what is. Everybody is calling something racism even when it has nothing to do with racism. It is the pop-culture thing to do. This cultural rot actually hurts "real" racism because people just start to tune all the noise out and most of it is just noise from the left. This flag disrepsepecting punk Kapernick is being labled as a victim of racism now by the NAACP and all the rest of the race hustler culture. These people are demanding that the NFL be "forced" to put him on a team (cutting someone else who actually made the team) just to pacify the violent mob. American society won't last another 20 years at this rate.

  • UtahEngineer Sandy, UT
    Aug. 24, 2017 2:37 a.m.

    Edward777 - of eugene, OR nailed this very problematic habit of liberals/leftists.

    "This is categorizing people for their race, and then saying they should feel guilty for whatever the left says they should feel guilty for; and then "atone" ..., ".

    This is a common leftist thread, that all whites bear the marks/color of a terrible "original sin", for which they must atone.

    When Ms. Allen calls out, just as loudly, those who engage in race baiting, race pandering, and race 'exceptionalism'... [the last absolves certain races of responsibility for "thugish actions" or criminal actions, because whites didn't do enough to help this or that race 20, 40, or 50 years ago. ]... then we will know she at least can see both sides of some race issues in this TROUBLED world.

  • Husker2 Odessa, TX
    Aug. 23, 2017 12:36 p.m.

    mcclark "WOW Who knew being against racism could be so controversial."

    Racism takes many forms. In my opinion, many liberal and progressive social welfare programs are racist because they purposely entrap people into generational poverty. Planned Parenthood is racist because it was founded with the purpose of eliminating racial minorities (genocide). I care far more about those than some white guy sitting in his mothers basement wearing a Nazi uniform.

  • Marxi$t Plymouth, NC
    Aug. 22, 2017 8:43 p.m.

    Kim Jong-Un often calls out supposed racism in the US. So do the Mullah's in Iran. However, both are trying to destroy us, just like the Leninist alt-left. Maybe "calling out racism" is not the ultimate virtue.

  • mcclark Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 22, 2017 3:27 p.m.

    @bamaphone I did not see in the article that anyone called you a racist. So why is it you think they are talking about you?

  • Flashback Kearns, UT
    Aug. 22, 2017 10:16 a.m.

    The monitors didn't like my first post because I called out specific entities and people and are actually mentioned in some of the other posted comments.

    Basically we should call out racism, in all forms and by all who do it. It isn't just the people protesting the taking down of statues, it's any group, rapper, religious leader, representative in Missouri, congress person that's pushing an agenda that doesn't benefit all, not just some.

    We should look at what Dr. King said in his I have a Dream speech and apply that to all. Not just to some.

  • worf McAllen, TX
    Aug. 22, 2017 10:01 a.m.

    Why is it, that only one group of people are pointed out as being racist?

  • worf McAllen, TX
    Aug. 22, 2017 12:11 a.m.

    Media shapes public views.

    Remember when media caused a love affair between citizens, and Adolf Hitler? How did that work out?

    Now public view of racism is being created.

  • bamafone Salem, UT
    Aug. 21, 2017 7:55 p.m.

    Wow, yeah, who knew all that one sided racism against all the white folks living in Utah could be so controversial. We're just sitting here scratching our heads wondering what we did that was so bad.

  • cthulhu_fhtagn Seattle, WA
    Aug. 21, 2017 5:27 p.m.

    @BobUtah - Draper, UT
    Aug. 21, 2017 12:38 p.m.

    "The United States of America is NOT racist! These labels that the liberals slap on anything that is not on their agenda is ridiculous! Spend some time overseas to see real racism...in Africa where i lived for a year and a half it was racism against whites.... many are now leaving. sad."

    That's great that you spent time overseas. I'm curious what your experience is with marginalized communities in the US. It must be extensive to make such a definitive statement.

  • mcclark Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 21, 2017 4:57 p.m.

    WOW Who knew being against racism could be so controversial.

  • rhappahannock Washington, DC
    Aug. 21, 2017 3:59 p.m.

    The Church had a Church College of New Zealand, and a network of educational institutions throughout the Pacific. They also have a Polynesian Cultural Center. It would be a great step for the church to build brick and mortar schools in Africa, and an African Cultural Center.

    Just as the building of the schools and cultural center in the Pacific have greatly aided cultural understanding and fighting racism, so would the building of a BYU-Africa and an African Cultural Center. It would give the African's equal billing - and provide a great deal of support to the missionary and humanitarian efforts of the church in that part of the world. Much more strategic for the church than building the City Creek Center, which just serves leadership and the rich in Salt Lake.

  • jsf Centerville, UT
    Aug. 21, 2017 2:41 p.m.

    Why liberals can buy trump pinatas from Walmart for bashing. Who is buying that market. Prices $16 - $62. Buy yours and what ever liberal group we want to associate your bashing of Trump effigies, we can do as freely as liberals do.

  • jsf Centerville, UT
    Aug. 21, 2017 2:30 p.m.

    And since Hillary supporters mistakenly believed Hillary won the election and have been trying to find a reason to eject him, how is that different? Should we count the many tweets in the thousands saying he did not win the election?

    Real evidence was the call and request.

  • jsf Centerville, UT
    Aug. 21, 2017 2:26 p.m.

    @Happy Valley Heretic

    Terry Jones is not part of the tea party, nor is Stand Up America.

    Again show a link between the Tea Party and images of Obama in effigy? Also explain when you look up hanging effigies of Obama you also get images of Bush and Palin hanged in effigy?

    Images do not equate to a tie that exists. Obama Bid Laden pictures don't equate nor to left wing bloggers equate to links between the Tea Party and effigy images. Please again a cite that actually proves or provides a picture of actual Tea Party members culpability.

    I would really like to see real evidence, And if just the fact images exist is evidence then hanging and burning effigies of Republican Presidents or candidates must equal support by liberal progressive organizations.

  • Happy Valley Heretic Orem, UT
    Aug. 21, 2017 1:36 p.m.

    jsf asked: "Tea Partiers carrying hanging burning effigies of Obama." Please a cite and pictures.

    Since apparently you don't look outside of right wing news, here you go...

    Trump called for protests in 2012 because he mistakenly believed that Obama lost the popular election. Here is a Trump tweet from Nov. 7 of that year: “He lost the popular vote by a lot and won the election. We should have a revolution!”

    Trump tweeted on Nov. 6, 2012: “We can’t let this happen. We should march on Washington and stop this travesty.”

    and then theres over 100 birther nonsense tweeted by him.

    Currently a 54-minute video on YouTube entitled Nationwide Burning of Effigies and Images of President Hussein Obama, published by a group called Stand Up America Now.

    The video opens with two effigies of Obama hanging from nooses with a fake gravestone in the background that reads “OBAMA DEAD,” as well as a church and an upside-down flag.

    Then there's the Obama bin Laden pictures.

    Sure poor Don John is so picked on, for being such a nice guy, hilarious.

  • Vermonter Plymouth, MI
    Aug. 21, 2017 1:06 p.m.

    @Happy Valley Heretic.
    Liberals and Democrats carrying hanging burning effigies of Bush and Trump is patriotic.
    Obama claiming that police are stupid, is presidential.
    Claiming no responsibility radical leftist group actions (Occupy Wall Street, BLM) is Liberal sanctuary.

    Amazing how some are so sure they are morally right?

    Or, perhaps the brush I am painting with is a bit too broad...

  • HSTucker Holladay, UT
    Aug. 21, 2017 12:55 p.m.

    Ok, don't mind if I do.

    Identity politics is racist. Facts are not racist.

    It is not the color of our skin that counts, but the content of our character. Yes, I am a big fan of the Rev. Dr. King.

  • jsf Centerville, UT
    Aug. 21, 2017 12:44 p.m.

    "Tea Partiers carrying hanging burning effigies of Obama." Please a cite and pictures.

    "Trump claiming that many Nazis and KKK are good people, is presidential." Fake and false statement. I listened to each one of his comments he did not. He said there were people there that were protesting the removal of the monuments that are not Nazis or KKK. Far different. But as was pointed out we need to call out hate and bigotry where ever it raises it's evil head.

    Claiming no responsibility for/and ignoring America's past in favor of "I didn't own any slaves" Where did you make this up from. Realize there are those that came into the country that did not own slaves, that are not racist. That have no cause in the racist past of slavery.

    Antifa thugs beat a man simply because of his hair cut. Where is the liberal out cry for attacking a man for his haircut. Isn't that stereotyping and bigotry?

  • BobUtah Draper, UT
    Aug. 21, 2017 12:38 p.m.

    The United States of America is NOT racist!

    These labels that the liberals slap on anything that is not on their agenda is ridiculous!

    Spend some time overseas to see real racism...in Africa where i lived for a year and a half it was racism against whites.... many are now leaving. sad.

  • NoNamesAccepted St. George, UT
    Aug. 21, 2017 12:35 p.m.

    @Prometheus Platypus,

    There is no "white race" except in the very small minds of the KKK, neo-Nazi, and left wing racists who pretend they are not racist.

    Those of fair skin range from Scandinavians to Irish, Scottish, English, Welch, Russian, Ukrainian, Slovak, German, French, and Spanish, at least. There are many different ethnicities, languages, peoples, and races who might be lumped together as "white".

    It was in 20th century Boston that red headed, fair skinned immigrants were confronted with signs reading "Help Wanted. No Irish."

    It is racist and ignorant to lump lots of different cultures together as merely "white".

    And it isn't just "whites" subject to officially encouraged discrimination today. See what an Asian kid has to do to get admitted to many colleges vs what a "person of color" can get by with and not only get in but be given scholarships to boot.

    "Under represented minority" had to be invented to allow discrimination against groups performing well today regardless of bad treatment in the past.

  • Surf is Up Miami, FL
    Aug. 21, 2017 12:18 p.m.

    Racism is an evil that will unfortunately always be with us, and among all races.

    America may be the only nation that spilled its own blood to eradicate slavery. It was a good first step.

    I remember a comment made by a man who, during a trial concerning indecency, said "I can't describe pornography in all cases, but I know it when I see it"

    Can the same be said for racism? It has become a slippery slope where everyone seems to feel entitled to be offended and cry 'racism' at the most seemingly benign and innocent "offenses". Be very careful folks. This is dangerous when taken too far.

    These people who claim to be the guardians of our republic (who dress in black, wear masks, and destroy stuff) claim to be fighting fascism; but do so using the fascist playbook. They are really who they pretend to hate and be fighting against.

    Mutual love and respect is a good start. But also resolving not to become so petty that everything bordering on race (intentional or unintentional) needs to be met with venom and attempts to destroy the offender.

    In fact I'm sure someone who reads my post will be offended and cry racism.

  • Yuge Opportunity Here Mapleton, UT
    Aug. 21, 2017 12:07 p.m.

    My old friend Zeke used to say, "I'm gonna be in the newspaper. I smoke in bed."

    Standing up to a skinhead provocation see,s to be a bit like that.

    I was impressed by Gayla Sorenson at a recent BYU devotional. She told the group to advocate where it will do some good. Did people think standing up to Aryan Nation types was going to change their minds?

    I don't understand those who encourage others to be party to a riot.

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, UT
    Aug. 21, 2017 11:53 a.m.

    "Protesting racism, is apparently evil.
    Protesters who are seeking justice, are racist.
    Protesters seeking input on environmental action, is un-american.
    Protesters seeking peace, are cowards and ignorant."

    Nice try, but wrong as usual. Just more liberal talking points.

    Violently protesting racism is still violence.

    Advocating for the murder of cops is NOT "seeking justice", especially "seeking justice" for a criminal who was shot while charging at a police officer and trying to take his gun.

    "Seeking input on environmental action" is a very nice way to put it, but unfortunately it doesn't paint the whole picture. Using fear tactics to scare legislators into spending billions and billions of dollars to delay "climate apocalypse" by a few hours could certainly be considered un-American, especially considering that we're burdening our future generations with it.

    And excuse me for not seeing the "seeking peace" in violent protests and demonstrations over the past several years. Ferguson? Baltimore? Come on!

    Oh, and I'm sure to be deemed a racist for pointing all this out.

  • rhappahannock Washington, DC
    Aug. 21, 2017 11:37 a.m.

    Does racism include Arab vs. Persian violence? Huttus vs. Tutsis? Han vs. Mongols, Zhuang, Miao, Hui, Tibetans, and Uyghurs?

    Look at what happened in Zimbabwe and what is now happening in South Africa. Why don't you call out that racism?

  • Marxi$t Plymouth, NC
    Aug. 21, 2017 11:27 a.m.

    Look at the headlines the alt-left HuffPo recently ran on the Bannon firing: pure anti-Semetic racism. Show the long running anti-Semitism of the alt-left Black. So, let's see this group call out the alt-left for racism. If not, they are just trying to score political points, and not fight racism.

  • Prometheus Platypus Orem, UT
    Aug. 21, 2017 11:20 a.m.

    In order to get rid of racism, according to nearly every poster, is to ignore it.
    Racism doesn't exist, or at least it doesn't effect me, so it must not exist.

    On the other hand it's obvious that the white race is subjected to unbelievable racism, bigotry, and discrimination?

  • Happy Valley Heretic Orem, UT
    Aug. 21, 2017 11:12 a.m.

    Protesting racism, is apparently evil.
    Protesters who are seeking justice, are racist.
    Protesters seeking input on environmental action, is un-american.
    Protesters seeking peace, are cowards and ignorant.

    Tea Partiers carrying hanging burning effigies of Obama is patriotic.
    Trump claiming that many Nazis and KKK are good people, is presidential.
    Claiming no responsibility for/and ignoring America's past in favor of "I didn't own any slaves"
    is Conservative sanctuary.

    Amazing how some are so sure they are morally right?

  • Thid Barker Victor, ID
    Aug. 21, 2017 10:51 a.m.

    When ever I hear an American complain about "racism" and our history of slavery, I think of what Muhammad Ali said to a reporter after his "rumble in the jungle" fight in Africa. When the reporter asked him what he thought of Africa, Ali, said, "Thank God my great, great grandfather got on that boat."

    Aug. 21, 2017 10:35 a.m.

    So by calling out racism I can put on a helmet and take a club and start wailing? Then I can call the "beatees" the "evil ones". This is so awesome.
    Can I only do this to white racists?

  • Anaximander South Ogden, UT
    Aug. 21, 2017 10:20 a.m.

    It's gotten to the point where the terms racism/racist has almost lost all meaning in our society. For too long now those labels have been thrown around too fast and too loose, including by some on the D News comment boards. It really is a text book case of crying wolf one too many times when in reality it's a perjorative for telling someone you disagree with them politically/ideolgically.

    Telling a group of ideolgically like minded people in a political setting to "Call out when you see it" is just going to further exacerbate the problem, if that's even possible.

  • cthulhu_fhtagn Seattle, WA
    Aug. 21, 2017 10:19 a.m.


    "Maybe we should stop fighting racism and bigotry and start eliminating hypocrisy."

    I challenge you to say that sentence out loud once or twice. Just to see if you like the sound of it.

  • cthulhu_fhtagn Seattle, WA
    Aug. 21, 2017 10:11 a.m.


    "You can't own something until it is earned. The greatest generation from the Great Depression and World War II earned that designation. It wasn't given to them."

    Yes it was. By Tom Brokaw. To sell books.

  • Rubydo Provo, UT
    Aug. 21, 2017 10:06 a.m.

    Except using words like white privilege will still be employed by those on the left and in the media just because.

  • SirTruth Lehi, UT
    Aug. 21, 2017 10:01 a.m.

    We are in danger of losing an entire generation to political correctness. The lies and half-truths are leading the Millenial generation down the path of ignorance. This is so very dangerous. There is racism on both sides of the political divide, in all races. It is important to hold all racists accountable REGARDLESS of their color. Also NOT use racism as a political tool. That is so repugnant and disgraceful. Please, Milenials think for yourself. Don't be used for political gain. This is the greatest Nation on Earth. We are all Americans regardless of whatever hyphen you put in front you declare. Native-American, Caucasian- American, Hispanic-American, African-American, Asian-American or whatever you are. We are all Americans and the divisions in we create are dangerous and do nothing but weaken our Country. The man who freed the slaves Abraham Lincoln said it best. "A house divided against itself cannot stand". Unify under our Flag, she stands for FREEDOM.

  • Third try screen name Mapleton, UT
    Aug. 21, 2017 9:42 a.m.

    This is what civil war looks like.
    On inauguration day people in black PJs and ski masks smashed windows, destroyed cars and set things on fire in DC.

    One after another, rallies were held to preserve what Obama gave or forgave with $20 billion we don't have.

    Wheelchairs blocked the streets.

    Snipers shot police. Police shot fleeing criminals.

    In Charlottesville, people showed up at rallies wearing helmets, carrying riot shields and clubs. Others showed up with bats and bricks.

    It sure looks like civil war to me.

  • AlanSutton Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 21, 2017 9:32 a.m.

    Gatherings such as this one demonstrate why most Utahns are not democrats.

  • Strong Man Eau Claire, WI
    Aug. 21, 2017 9:31 a.m.

    Best I can tell, this was very much a centrist gathering -- democrats and republicans -- simply trying to clarify that racism is wrong and to call all of us to a greater sense of our own racism. My sense, as well, is that the Church's very strong statement against white (or any) supremacy was meant for all of us as well. My feeling is that rather than be defensive (e.g. "Antifa/the alt-left is just as racist/supremacist!!") is to just ask ourselves if we are in any way racist or supremacist (or sexist, or xenophobic, or homophobic, or.... etc etc ....) and after an honest self examination, resolve to be better and more like Christ.
    P.S. JSB in Sugar City -- well said friend!!

  • NoNamesAccepted St. George, UT
    Aug. 21, 2017 9:29 a.m.

    As the engineer at Google discovered recently, call out bigotry will end your job if you call it out when it is directed towards white, conservative, heterosexual, Christian, males.

    It is well past time to end racism, sexism, and all other forms of bigotry.

    That means ending affirmative action, not considering race or sex for college admissions or scholarships, and the media dropping the excitement over various "firsts" to hold one position or another. No more breathlessly reporting about the "first, black lesbian" or "pacific islander woman" to hold a particular post in government. AA might have been needed for a time. But is have been 50 years. The leg up has been given. Time to end AA and all programs that track race or sex and claim bigotry as the only reasonable cause for differences in outcome.

    Neither I nor my grandchildren are responsible for the racism of the past, nor even present. There is no just reason my grandsons should have a harder time getting admitted to college, hired, or promoted, than do my grand daughters.

    Call out racism in all directions.

  • imsmarterthanyou Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 21, 2017 9:12 a.m.

    I'll call out some racism. How about every time I look at the tv guide & see the BET channel in the list, or every time I see a commercial about black history month, or the united negro college fund. How about every time Martin Lawrence, or any other black or Latino comedian opens their mouth. I dare anyone to name any month as white history month. Someone tried it a while back on billboard and was labeled a racist on the news and everything. Good luck with that. Try to have a college fund for white kids. Try to gather with other white people in any type of celebration of culture and heritage and you will be labeled as racist extremists immediately and your event will be protested by racist groups like black lives matter as being a white supremacist, racist event. The biggest problem is you will have liberal white people, ashamed of being white, who will join the racist groups protesting you. And while you are not racist and care nothing for that, all you wanted to do was have a nice celebration of your history & culture. You can only do that if you are not white.

  • Husker2 Odessa, TX
    Aug. 21, 2017 9:11 a.m.

    I found this article shocking and hugely disappointing.

    One Provo City Council candidate (Zandamela) wants to "end the normalization" of racism. What normalization??? People have been speaking out against it and we've had laws opposing it for several decades.

    Another Provo City Council candidate (Phillips) thought racism ended when Obama was elected. Really??? That is beyond naÏve. Plus, he wants people to apologize and atone for racism. I'm conservative but I am not racist, so I refuse to apologize or atone for something I am not guilty of. In fact, I have ancestors who fought and died in the Civil War trying to defeat slavery. Is that atonement enough??

    I think these candidates saw and opportunity for political and jumped on it.

  • Green Chille Albuquerque, NM
    Aug. 21, 2017 9:04 a.m.

    Can we call out Communism when we see it, or will this alt-left newspaper can it?

  • Thid Barker Victor, ID
    Aug. 21, 2017 8:40 a.m.

    If you want to be called a "racist", just disagree with Al Sharpton, or Maxine Waters or Barack Obama, et al! Yup, that will do it! It is pretty effective since it shuts down most opposition to their political agendas!

  • at long last. . . Kirksville , MO
    Aug. 21, 2017 8:38 a.m.

    Calling out racism is okay, if you are really doing that and not falsely accusing others. And as long as you don't commit righteously indignant violence against those you are accusing. Often, it seems to me, that racism is in the eye of the easily offended beholder.

  • BradJames Manti, UT
    Aug. 21, 2017 8:35 a.m.

    the real issue in this society is that people use reverse racism against whites. I, for one, have never been racist to anyone but millennials have decided that if you want to be rude to someone because he/she happens to be white, that is not racism. Minorities want to take control of this society. No, I'm not sorry for saying this.

  • christoph Brigham City, UT
    Aug. 21, 2017 8:25 a.m.

    Let's call out ABC, CBS, NBC for talking Russia all spring and summer, allegedly interfering in election, with no evidence whatsoever to this day, and final verdict still unknown. My point? People jump to conclusion and think others are guilty when they are not. People get bored and want to only speak on one topic. Many piano keys to play on a piano.

  • christoph Brigham City, UT
    Aug. 21, 2017 8:21 a.m.

    Like environmental issues and people getting less pay, these worries don't have a world leader, nor a manual, nor a guideline on how to treat the guilty, so we will be all over the map on being a referee. And in free country, some will, sadly, call it freedom of speech. Let's all be kind and get many hobbies, don't lose sleep over someone else's liberty to be rude. Trying to find fault, is not a religion, and again has no leadership, and is not wise. Pres. Obama (for whom I voted in 2008, yet didn't vote for him in 2012 for his team's negativity) in the 2016 speech
    at funeral of 5 police officers slain, was wrong to say we are all guilty and that we have all thought prejudice. And can he read my thoughts, or anyone else's? Don't assume. No human being can read another's thoughts.

  • worf McAllen, TX
    Aug. 21, 2017 8:16 a.m.

    Because of the media, and politicians, racism has been identified, as coming from just one, or two groups of people.

    This seems to be the belief of many people. This is not true!

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, UT
    Aug. 21, 2017 8:13 a.m.

    I wonder how many will take the meaning to be "Call out racism when dealing with conservatives/Republicans".

    Because, after all, all conservatives are racists and no liberals are racist. We get the message.

    As DrMAN points out, it's impossible to have a true and honest discussion when people call others racists, bigots, homophobes, islamaphobes, etc and/or accusing them of wanting to get rid of sick people and deny health insurance to as many people as possible, simply because they don't agree with them 100% (they apparently call this "being open-minded").

  • Utah Girl Chronicles Eagle Mountain, UT
    Aug. 21, 2017 8:05 a.m.

    I'm sure seeing white supremacists marching through town shouting slogans that advocated the extermination of blacks and Jews damaged a lot of psyches. When racism oozes through the cracks like that, that's very painful.

    There's nothing wrong with a group of people congregating in a public park to encourage others to confront racism. What is wrong is others questioning their message.

  • bamafone Salem, UT
    Aug. 21, 2017 7:44 a.m.

    The man running for Provo City council, Mr Phillips lacks a basic understanding of atonement. We do not at tone for others mistakes. Lumping entire classes of people into reckless categories is foolish and only feeds the fuel to perpetuate class distinction. I agree that these events really only serve to agitate and perpetuate I'll feelings. The only attitude you can change is your own and I agree with a previous commenter that hypocrisy is the real problem.

  • Mark321 Eagle Mountain, UT
    Aug. 21, 2017 7:16 a.m.

    "For millennials to be the most powerful generation, "you have to own it,""

    You can't own something until it is earned. The greatest generation from the Great Depression and World War II earned that designation. It wasn't given to them.

  • DrMAN Orem, UT
    Aug. 21, 2017 6:54 a.m.

    "Calling out racism" includes calling out those who falsely label people as racist. It's likely a variation of the fairy tale of The Boy Who Cried Wolf. Misidentifying individuals and groups as racists when they really are not only makes it more difficult to identify and intervene to stop true instances of racism. Example: for the 2016 election, the Democrats ran on a platform of labeling the entire Republican Party and its members as racists, xenophobes, homophobes, islamophobes, and the list goes on and on. When 60+ million folks are labeled as racists when they really aren't, the term "racism" loses its meaning and true instances of racism are easily dismissed.

  • What in Tucket? Provo, UT
    Aug. 21, 2017 5:54 a.m.

    I don't see there is much difference between the two groups. They are both bad. The difference is the left wing protesters were also from out of town and paid. Moreover the KKK, neo Nazi's, and white surpremecists are a tiny minority. They couldn't hardly put a mayor of a small town in office. I agree however even a small group can be mean and they seem to be.

  • 1hemlock Tooele, Utah
    Aug. 21, 2017 5:51 a.m.

    Good counsel. The hard thing will be to recognize and address the subtle acts of bigotry. From those that seem to mostly check the receipts if darker skinned folks at the store before they exit to the presumption that the darker skinned kid committed the foul or started the fight in kids games.
    The danger is to call everything racism when things are just not equal for other reasons or things just happen.
    Unfortunately, no one has a good everyday definition of racism. It gets tricky when someone points out a fact about a minority portion of a group and then presumes it applies to all the group. But what if a fact does apply to most of the group? At what point does it get called racism? Just because it is negative? Isn't it racist to point out a positive characteristic also?
    When someone says white people can't dance? Is it racist?
    If someone says 70% of black kids are born out of wedlock? Is that a racist statement?
    Is someone racist, if in plain conversation with a black person, suggests we go get BBQ? But if that person is from the south? And if they know each other and they both like BBQ?
    I think it's racist to apologize for all white people when my people never did anything

  • 3grandslams Eagle Mountain, UT
    Aug. 21, 2017 5:04 a.m.

    I want the call against racism and bigotry to not have boundaries. Currently I sense it's called out to only serve political agendas, to incite hatred or to play a victim. Maybe we should stop fighting racism and bigotry and start eliminating hypocrisy.

  • JSB Sugar City, ID
    Aug. 21, 2017 5:02 a.m.

    I was raised in SLC and never even knew a black person up through high school (East, 1959). I graduated from the U of U and still never became well acquainted with a black person. So my opinion based on my experience with blacks was a clean slate when I was drafted into the army and became friends with a lot of black men. We lived and worked together. I thought that civil rights legislation was wrong until a black friend explained to me what it was like to be refused service just because he was black. It opened my mind and I understood somewhat his frustration. I felt sorry for a couple of white guys from the south who told me of their hatred for blacks. It shocked repelled me. I struggled with the LDS practice re. blacks and the priesthood. I couldn't reconcile it with my heart. I, and everyone I knew in the church felt like shouting for joy when the "revelation" was announced. I now live in S.E. Idaho where there aren't very many blacks but I have friends who have adopted black children and there isn't any difference between the black kids and the white kids. Racism is just evil and disgusting; an excuse for some insecure people to feel superior by trying to hold others back.

  • SLars Provo, UT
    Aug. 21, 2017 1:15 a.m.

    There have been protests all over the country that last couple of weeks. Only one had the Klan there. Is this really about racism, or hate over the election of Trump. Check out the Blue lives matter website for video of the Chicago protests where antifa wore masks.

    They can expose the members of the Klan on the internet, but hide behind masks.

  • Edward777 eugene, OR
    Aug. 21, 2017 12:47 a.m.

    ""The blame for this gargantuan lie rests primarily, maybe wholly, with people who look like me and our inability to properly apologize and atone for the sins of the past," said Phillips, who is white."

    This is categorizing people for their race, and then saying they should feel guilty for whatever the left says they should feel guilty for; and then "atone" by what, supporting the left? This is what is pushing people to extremism on both sides.