On another note. If Fireworks were only done by cities that put on the elaborate
displays, supervised by the fire department, I would be happy.The
fact is Fireworks are big business in Utah and Wyoming (who's customers are
primarily Utahns). And too many families have big traditions lighting them off.
Spending anywhere from $50-$1000+ on there street shows. Those 2 reasons are
why they have not been outlawed already. Even though they are a huge nuisance
and danger. Those 2 reasons out way common sense. July is always
dry in Utah and there are always fires caused by fireworks every single year.
Costing millions to fight, while they destroy nature and homes, as well as
killing wildlife and even some people.Plus our streets our littered
with tons of debris and burn marks. Pets are frightened and lost. Bad feelings
arise between neighbors as inconsiderate revelers continue lighting off
fireworks until midnight or later. And of course there are the frequent
accidents where people are hurt. I love this state, but it seems in
Utah business and family enjoyment take priority over common sense.
Utah County may need to adapt there firearms laws to match Salt Lake
County's; where firearms can not be discharged unless at a designated
range. As a resident that remembers Utah being somewhat of a small
town feeling out-in-the-country kind of place, its tough to see everywhere
developed and changed. But it's no longer that way and the laws have to
adapt to keep what nature we have left.
The fire was out by Sunday night, three isolated flare ups but the planes had
dropped fire retardant around the fire so it could not spread and where they
weren't able to drop the retardant the ground crews and helicopters with
huge water buckets had been able to stop the progress.This is why
newspapers are going out of business, this report was really about 6 hours
All rights are conjoined with responsibilities. Abuse those rights with
irresponsible behavior you will see your rights reduced if not rescinded. This
ain't nuclear science, quantum physics or aeronautical engineering. Abuse
is punishable across many venues and reckless gun behavior should be no
exception. These kind of issues should be resolved by public outreach and
education and money must be allocated by the legislature to accomplish that.
Otherwise fireworks and gun discharge will have to be restricted - period.
Anything less is irrational and fallacious sensibility.
Utah is made of tinder. Fireworks should be outlawed except in very narrow
settings.Building high on a dry mountain or in a floodplain
isn't smart either.
To Impartial7:I'm sorry you tried to make this incident about
the second amendment to the Constitution. The second amendment is about
the right to bear arms, not a right to shoot them on a hot, dry summer afternoon
near homes against the mountain where dry brush can be ignited by a spark. This
same thing happened in 2014 in Alpine, though that fire was put out more
quickly. We need people to exercise common sense when riding four-wheelers and
motorcycles, when participating in shooting sports, when digging with a backhoe,
when shooting off fireworks, etc. I too tire of watching our mountains burn
because of reckless, thoughtless acts.But your comment about the
second amendment has nothing to do with this story or this fire. Possessing a
firearm is a constitutional right and has been for over two centuries. Shooting
a firearm, especially rifles in mid-July in the foothills of the Wasatch
mountains with dry brush all around is not a right - and it is not smart.
Anyone found guilty, whether by trial or confession, of starting a wildfire
should serve time in jail, pay a substantial fine, and have their gun ownership
rights taken away. If you can't act responsibly you shouldn't be
allowed to endanger others. There's no reason for people to be
shooting outside of shooting ranges in the middle of the summer. If you just
have to shoot go to a dedicated range where you're not likely to put other
people in danger to pursue your hobby. I appreciate the need for mercy and
compassion but there's also a time when we should make examples out of
people who act recklessly.
Good ole Utah, where 2nd amendment rights override common sense. Between
fireworks and shooting in a tinderbox, we are just begging to burn our state up.
Why are people allowed to shoot guns and fireworks still? How much property must
be damaged and lives ruined before our legislature acts? In July and August, we
need some laws banning These things since the population lacks common sense.