State, United Utah Party argue over access to 3rd District special election ballot

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  • at long last. . . Kirksville , MO
    July 15, 2017 8:20 p.m.

    Old Teacher - I assume you are part of the failure of public education/ and complicit in liberal student indoctrination. My point is not that the Dems would win an election, but that they would start to close the gap with the Reps. over time. Actually not a terrible long-term strategy, but they are seriously screwing it up by suing the state, forcing the use of tax dollars to defend the decision. Not a way to win minds and hearts of moderate voters.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    July 15, 2017 8:06 p.m.

    Don't be fooled folks with this Richard Davis party. This is the Democrat party -- an extention of it with the purpose to divide the LDS vote and thus allow votes to be stolen away from Trump -- I call it the Evan McMullin scam. It's not about Democrats winning but it is about Trump losing in Utah. The McMullin scam didn't work so they just re-branded it with this ridiculous new name (united utah) but the intent and the effect is the same. They know they have zero chance of ever winning anything but that isn't the goal -- it is to steal LDS votes and nothing more. As I said -- don't be fooled by Davis and his clever political gaming. I hope LDS people know by now that president Trump aligns tightly with LDS values and with constitutional first amendement religious liberty. Trump is against abortion, against gay marriage at the federal level and has apointed THE most conservative Supreme Court justice in 35 years. Need any more proof? Richard Davis is PRO choice, PRO gay marriage, and supports the three most far left liberal justices on the Supreme Court on every issue. Any questions?

  • Old Teacher Salem, UT
    July 15, 2017 1:26 p.m.

    Re: At long last...

    If the UUP were to garner 2% of each of the major party's votes, as 'at long last...' hypothesizes, what would that do? let's say the election were much closer than normal, say 55% Republican to 45% Democrat. If the UUP took 2% of each party's votes, then the result would be 53.9% Republican to 44.1% Democrat. -- Not much difference in who's elected. Even if the Republicans lost 10% of their vote and the Democrats lost none of theirs, the result would be 49.5% to 45%. And with more typical margins of 60% to 40%, the results are still bleaker for the Democrats.

    If, as you suggest, the UUP is a bunch of liberals trying to get the Democrat elected, then they must not very good at math. I think we should take them for their word that they're passionate moderates. Even if they can't get anyone elected -- and that's an uphill battle -- I hope they can help get political discourse in Utah past name-calling and move on to finding common ground on real issues.

  • DN Subscriber Cottonwood Heights, UT
    July 15, 2017 8:39 a.m.

    The "new party" with a very vague platform, and a candidate whose sole qualification seems to be that he has some sort of hereditary right to represent Utah in Congress, is throwing a petulant fit because their demands to bend the rules are not being met.

    We have a lot more than two political parties in Utah, and if the other minor parties can manage to follow the rules and get on the ballot, then this new bunch needs to do the same, or be kept off.

    If they cannot follow the rules to get on the ballot, what else will they mess up?

  • John Jackson Sandy, UT
    July 15, 2017 12:23 a.m.

    Assistant attorney general David Wolf warned the judge that if Bennett gets on the ballot, it could open the door for others to get on the ballot. If you are the Republicans or the Democrats, that could be a bad thing. They don't want competition. Another candidate might emerge strong enough to threaten the two parties' stranglehold on elections. If you can keep them off the ballot, locking out any competition, you can preserve your stranglehold. People should be free to challenge the existing parties. They should have the right to start parties in opposition.

  • Scaffold Dulles, DC
    July 14, 2017 11:41 p.m.

    @ at long last,

    What evidence do you have for such claims or is this just your opinion?

    My POV is that this is a party that's interested in taking a more moderate and practical approach to the challenges we face rather than just trying to appeal to ideological extremes. However, I think they need provide more policy specifics before this independent moderate jumps on the bandwagon.

  • at long last. . . Kirksville , MO
    July 14, 2017 8:06 p.m.

    Frozen Fractals - You evidently don't understand my point about slicing Republican voters away and into the United Utah group. This is a way to try to lessen the substantial Republican majority without pulling off many Democrat votes. Even if percentage-wise it was a wash, two percent of the Republican vote is a lot larger than two percent of the Democrats. Got it?

  • J2 Provo, UT
    July 14, 2017 7:04 p.m.

    I'm not necessarily a fan of this party, but I do think it's a little silly to block any party from registering just because of a technicality. We need more ways to break the monolithic two-party (or in Utah's case one-party) dominance.

  • Frozen Fractals Salt Lake City, UT
    July 14, 2017 6:10 p.m.

    @at long last
    "If they intend to be anything other than a stalking horse for the Democrat party, trying to shave away Republican voters"

    The absolute dumbest thing for any Democrat to do in a state where Democrats get about 35% in statewide elections is say "hey, you know what we should do? Break up into two parties"

  • at long last. . . Kirksville , MO
    July 14, 2017 2:38 p.m.

    The United Utah party just seems to be composed of liberals who are cranky because they didn't follow the law in time to qualify for the special election. If they intend to be anything other than a stalking horse for the Democrat party, trying to shave away Republican voters, they need to learn to play by the rules like the other parties, id est., Libertarian, Green, Constitutional, and so forth. . .