Benjamin Franklin stated, "Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As
nations become more corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters."I believe in limited, but smart government. Unlike
Republicans, I understand regulation, legislation, and litigation are due to
corporations and business owners who don't abide by virtue. The GOP uses
the principle of limited government as an umbrella issue to facilitate
oligarchy.Democrats believe in choices without consquences. We must
be obligated by government force to bear the consequences of the choice of
others, even if it violates one's conscience. Democrats believe in
enablement as opposed to empowerment. Both parties do not believe
in moral agency. They infringe upon agency by co-opting the true principle of
freedom to veil agendas to achieve the opposite.To borrow from
Joseph Smith, government should be an institution to promote equally important
and true principles; and then let people govern themselves.However,
this requires a culture of charity, personal responsibility, with shared and
non-coerced stewardship.The realist in me sees we don't have a
culture that can support limited government.
Our government takes care of a lot on ungrateful people, most of them are very
well-to-do because of the government. Ask them to give back in taxes and they
have a fit. Total lack of appreciation!
"The recent tussle over bathroom use by transgender people..."Wasn't an issue until the Obergefell decision legalized same sex
marriage. The religious right's anti-gay political machine needed a new
cause, the restroom issue became, with much hysterical misinformation, that
cause. Trump has overturned hundreds of Obama regulations... to what
end? So streams can be filled with coal ash again? So banks are less regulated?
So the sick can't get care? We need government to protect us
from people like Trump.
Bell's article was simplistic and defected the real reason why he wrote it.
He is a lobbyist for the Health care industry that his party, (GOP) is trying to
bolster. His party is on the verge of destroying health care availability for
over 23 million US citizens, yet he advocates less intrusion? That has never
worked and the middle class suffers under this simplistic and dishonest GOP
approach.One issue that he raised that frankly shows a dishonesty
that permeates the GOP. This was the "transgender bathroom issue". That
was a mean spirited attempt by the GOP to marginalize a group least able to
defend themselves. It showed the dishonesty of the GOP and their flagrant and
sickening discrimination of a minority group. That was never an issue until the
GOP needed to promote discrimination yet again. Mr. Bell, it is
far more likely that Republican leader will do something inappropriate in a
bathroom than any transgender. (There are no transgender arrests ever for this).
That has even been the case several times with GOP leaders being arrested in
Airport bathrooms, or even here in Utah soliciting sex from an undercover
I would contend that you could get rid of the vast majority of regulation is you
held people personally liable for their decisions.Corporate leaders
very seldom go to jail, yet without regulations many will go to any lengths to
increase profit.If we start penalizing the decision makers rather
than the stockholders, the need for regulations would diminish greatly.
@IAlaw "Government should be limited to only that which is necessary to
protect the individual in his or her natural rights."The natural
rights dogma ignores market power, i.e. assumes individuals and corporations
come into the market with equal power. This is nonsense.
Bell is absolutely correct. People, conservatives and liberals alike, need to
stop viewing law and government as if they were a magic wand. Government should
be limited to only that which is necessary to protect the individual in his or
her natural rights.
Greg Bell is absolutely correct. Far too many look to the government as the
great provider.Indeed, that is emblematic of the entitlement
mentality that is so common amongst young people today. They think that they are
entitled to have the government provide them with their every want and need,
simply because they exist. America is not meant to be just another
European-style, post-Christian, socialist state in which the government is
looked as the provider of everything. America is far more than that.
How special - a health care lobbyist is telling us what is wrong with America.
I've got an idea - lobbyists are what is wrong with America.
It's simple. People with low standards want legislated morality. Because
they choose to not be responsible for their own low standards of behavior.
Enormous taxation and entitlements and excessive legislation are the end result
of low standards. Greed instead of generosity. Vice instead of
health and savings. Loss of self-respect, misery and depression instead of true
happiness. Loss of direction and purpose instead of choosing the higher ground.
And people are so engrossed in this behavior they dont even realize what the
source of their unhappiness is.Until the entire goal of
everyone's existence is to seek to ease the burdens of others. First by not
being the burden and second through charity, then we as a society will have
become as Christ has intended it.
Yet it gave Mr. Bell big pay checks, and yes we do recall when Mr. Bell and
Governor Herbert didn't "know anything" about someone getting 13
million dollar gift from tax payers for losing out on a contract. When the
Democrat Peter Corroon, running against them, brought this up, they said he was
If ya have a half a glass of water, which is it? Half full or half empty. If
it's on the empty side you'll want more. There is never enough. Give
thanks for what ya get.
Mr. Bell.."The recent tussle over bathroom use by transgender people shows
us that given the delicate issues of privacy and gender identity, the law simply
cannot settle the issue to everyone’s liking. "Absolutely
right..but it can settle the issue so that the rights of the disadvantaged are
protected..of course conservative will be unhappy with this.
Mr Bell, typical of conservatives, ignores what is happening with capital,
international corporations which can whipsaw labor at will. Labor used to have
somewhat of a voice, but organized labor has been crushed as per the wishes of
capital. So labor, that is working class people, now have nowhere to look for
relief besides government.Business compromises government. An
example is the ACA instead of medicare for all, for which I advocated to no
avail. Medicare works. But the Democrats had to assuage the insurance biz and
the rest of the medical industrial complex in order to expand coverage, a worthy
goal but left a mess.All of this is happening against a backdrop of
fantastically concentrating wealth and income. Conservatives will not examine
distribution. Because they are embarrassed by it, or because they don't
understand it?Government is the only hope of the working class. I
wish we had other alternatives.
I am a socialist, I have a dream of a classless society without poverty.
However, realistically, socialism in the 20th century was and is a dismal
failure. From Stalin's gulags to the Sendero Luminoso to Dominique
Strauss-Kahn taking a pass at a hotel maid. At best socialism was incompetent.
At worst it was treason.But the dream is still there.Forget the fools and worse who want to make people be good. Be good. Live
within your means so that you have the resources to help others. Volunteer. I
learned a lot by tutoring teenagers in the poor parts of towns or going into
youth detention centers to tell stories.During the riots in Missouri
several years ago over the death of a young man who was shot by police, someone
said, "The government is not going to do it for us. We'll have to do
It can't solve every issue. It can, however, solve health care. Just as it
does across the rest of the industrialised world. We only seem to see
government as an enemy, yet it is us.
Yeah, impartial, because federal agencies can be trusted to be ethical, unlike
"At some point, the effectiveness and reach of the law ends, and the
goodness and wisdom in each heart must take over."Greg-
there's a reason that so many Utah agencies are under Federal
investigations. If Utah politicians and department managers conducted themselves
ethically and with "goodness and wisdom", we'd be fine. But, until
then, we need Federal government regulation and oversight.