Thid, lost, et al-There are some very intelligent and well-thought posts
here. Shouldn't you be over on 'Breitbart"?
If ANY trump say ANYTHING, it is always wise to believe the exact opposite.
lost in DC claims: platypus "childish to defend yourself when someone starts
punching you or throwing rocks at you?"Nice try but you said,
and I quoted: "There may have even been times trump supporters may have even
thrown the first punch - after significant provocation from the left."Throwing the first punch, means they had not been touched at all, key
word "first." You tried to spin it, as if they were being punched
or having rocks thrown at them, but that is not what you said at all, is it. Your reply was consistent with our presidents approach to honesty
though, and that's why many don't bother to engage.
Frozenmy apologiesthank youI guess your
voice of reason was drowned out by the usual attacks from the rest of the left
Focusing on Trump like he was operating within a vacuum during the elections
distorts the full picture. None of the supposed "speech crimes" were
unprovoked. He won the election in a brawl. If everything said in private were
made public, no one could get elected. No one is perfect. The obsession with
Trump's supposed unfitness is unnatural.
@lost in DC"I've yet to see any condemnation of that act by any
liberal posters on these boards."My first comment on the matter
in these boards called the shooter a terrorist (after all the definition of
terrorism most closely associates with politically motivated attacks) and the
lowest of the low.@Nunn24"First, Mr. Kahn unjustly
attacked Mr. Trump. "Trump called for banning Muslims from
entering the country (soon clarified to non-American Muslims, and of course
eventually after being elected it turned into a ban from some countries which is
more in line with what Ted Cruz was calling for, but initially his statement was
clear, he read the written statement )."Donald J. Trump is
calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States
until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on.
"That was on his campaign website until early May 2017.
platypuschildish to defend yourself when someone starts punching you
or throwing rocks at you?I think not.childish to defend
those around you when they are threatened?I think not.The weaker argument or bully resorts to physical violenceCorrect,
that is why in the vast majority of cases, the left started the violence at the
trump rallies, because they are used to being able to bully their way through or
could not fathom that someone would have opinions not in synch with theirs.
"There may have even been times trump supporters may have even thrown the
first punch - after significant provocation from the left."This
is the epitome of childish, as one of the first things taught (most children) is
to use your words not your fists. The weaker argument or bully resorts to
In keeping with the Leftist standard of untruthfulness, the letter-writer does
bear a false witness. First, Mr. Kahn unjustly attacked Mr. Trump.
Trump duly defended himself. Trump did not "attack" Mr. Kahn."... threatened millions ... simply because of their origin."A flat-out lie (and, yes, it is appropriate to identify it as such). Those
millions are here illegally, and most of them are in fact showing disrespect for
this nation and its laws in other ways as well (these, too, are pertinent facts,
DN, like it or not), and should be deported; and the deportees should not
abandon their children here, but should take their children with them, thus
keeping the family together.."...when her father egged on
supporters as they were attacking unarmed protestors at his rallies."A lie, by omission and distortion. Trump only encouraged audience
members to defend themselves and defend other innocent persons, if necessary,
against violent physical attack from the Left.
platypusyou must really check your sources. I'm sure there were times
trump supporters defended themselves, probably quite vigorously, against the
violence of the left. There may have even been times trump supporters may have
even thrown the first punch - after significant provocation from the left.But the vast majority of the time, the violence at his rallies was
instigated and started by the left. Something I'm confident your sources
would not willingly have disclosed. You would rather trump told his supporters
NOT to defend themselves when attacked? his comment about hilary -
definitely out of line (IF it was as you said)I'm glad Bernie
has condemned his supporter who shot the congressmen - I've yet to see any
condemnation of that act by any liberal posters on these boards.I
really sorry for liberals on these boards; it seems they really like violence,
since they seem to commit and defend it so much
It's called cognitive dissonance when the Trump supporters have to tell
lies and use fake truths to defend this sickening visible behavior by Donald
Trump. The statement made by one poster that Trump protesters attacked Trump
supporters is so flagrantly dishonest that I wonder what that poster could have
been seeing? Where did honesty go?Those types of flat out dishonest
statements are truly believed by these people. How they do that is beyond
normal behavior.I would ask Trump supporters if they would allow
their daughter to remain in a locked room for 24 hours with Donald trump? I
sure would not allow that to happen. Honest and educated people from both sides
see what kind of sickening behavior we as decent Americans are witnessing.
Trump is as dishonest in his Presidency as he was in his business
dealings. (Trump University for example). His daughter has received
the benefit of wealth from ill gotten business practices and she should realize
where this has come from.
Awe the Trump surrogates out defending the worst president ever again and again,
not with any reasoning, but with more justification.DC claims:
"It was the trump protesters who attacked the trump supporters at his
rallies, not the other way around."Except for the video of
Trumpettes smashing people, and Trump encouraging it,and offering to pay for
their legal defense. OR what About Trump calling for someone to use their 2nd
Amendment to deal with Hillary? Can you show me where Bernie suggested this? I
can show you where Rand Paul said the same thing.I feel sorry for
anyone close to Trump, but they must really like money, to put up with his
oh my...someone in MA has been brainwashed by the Left. Try a different news
source. It's also pathetic that the New York Times is blaming
Palin for the attack. The Left has no shame and they never have the truth.
Should have held your tongue a bit longer, and not exposed your blatant agenda,
and double standard. I get it. That seething hatred of Trump is hard to control.
No one needs to defend Trump. He takes care of himself just fine.
Although he acts and says a lot of things I would never say or do, he is quite
often right on the money. Why are you getting so worked up over what his
daughter says? Why attack her? Mr Kahn is a sad sack, who allowed himself
to be one of the DNC chumps. Thousands of "Gold Star" families in this
country, but they don't all become loudmouths and hacks to a political
party. He attacked Trump first. Did he not expect a response from Trump. I bet
he did, but too bad it backfired on him. He got exposed for being a phony and a
fool.Lost in DC is right on the money about the rest of the letter. Trump
doesn't often start the fight, but he finishes it.
Well said. It would probably be easier to list the people and groups of people
Trump has not insulted than to list those he has insulted. The
latest—misrepresenting the words of London's mayor in the wake of the
most recent terrorist attack—was simply embarrassing to the United States.
Political discourse has been going downhill for some time, particularly with the
GOP's outrageous opposition to President Obama (who, by the way, is looking
better all the time), but Trump has pushed us into completely new territory.
Ivanka should perhaps look in the family mirror before pointing fingers. Rein in
daddy, Ivanka. That would be the best way to improve the situation.
MatthewAllow me to dispel a couple of the Boston Globe / MSNBC myths you
are perpetuating.Trump is not threatening to deport millions of
people based simply on their origin, but because they came here illegally.
People from the same origins who respected and obeyed the legal immigration
process are more than welcome. I wonder why it is liberals cannot distinguish
between legal and illegal immigrants?It was the trump protesters who
attacked the trump supporters at his rallies, not the other way around.And while trump’s attack on the parents whose son died in the military
was disgusting, it pales in comparison to totting around a simulation of
trump’s severed head or the shooting of GOP congressmen by a Bernie
Thank you. This letter is spot on and was, I know, limited by lack
of space, not by lack of examples to cite.
I don't know Ivanka Trump, and frankly never care to make her
acquaintance.However, I do sympathize with her a little. How hard
it must be to have such a person as a father. Were he not so wealthy, and now
powerful, I wonder what any other person would do in such circumstances? It
must take a lot of guts to step back and avoid the limelight.