@FT and @Tolstoy - What "meaningful solutions" and "sensible gun
laws" do you propose? And how would they have made a difference in any of
the recent shooter situations?How does disarming law abiding
citizens better protect them from those who do not obey the law?
Although Flake's actions were laudable, they don't make him a hero!
A hero is the fireman who runs into the burning building to save a
life, the soldier who advances in the face of enemy fire, and the law
enforcement person who goes to work every day.A lot of people do a
lot of good things, but let's save the word "hero" for those few,
rare instances of people who voluntarily help others in the face of huge
A tragic event!
@ArizonaMormonTrained professionals saved life'stoday. Trained
professionals that would have to face less situations were they were outgunned
by bad guys if we had sensible gun laws.
@kaysvillecougarIn my opinion what is shameful are the thousands of
innocent people that have been killed already this year due to firearms and the
lack of response or concern by millions of Americans. This was just another
incident with the only difference being it involved public officials. After
Sandy Hook and the lack of response from politicians I became convinced that we
as a country have become immune to firearm deaths. Our politicians have become
servants to special interests. Why are there so many guns? Why are there so
many innocent people slaughtered and maimed each year? Why do continually elect
politicians who refuse to address the situation and offer meaningful solutions?
Kaysville, if now is not the time to try to discuss things like this, when will
be?It never takes more than a few seconds for
"conservatives" to start demonizing and politicizing their favorite
causes. Welcome to America and the First Amendment.
Wow, our favorite liberals are out in force politicizing a tragedy like this.
How shameful. There are times and places for those discussions. This isn't
one of those times.
No, Airnaut, this probably won't bring about any sensible changes in gun
laws.Most likely just the opposite.Now we'll hear
shouts that every Republican needs to be armed to defend against those
"liberals."Remember, the only thing that can stop a Liberal
with a gun is a Conservative with an even bigger gun.
Hmm...Perhaps since this shooter targeted a REPUBLICAN, that
NOW there might be some discussion of background checks by Republicans......maybe?... perhaps?.... please?BTW -- A young woman,
her 6 year old son, were killed and another son and good Samaritans child were
gunned down last week right here.Utah Government delegation were
completely silent about that.I reckon it only warrants outrage or comment
when it's one of 'them'.
Imagine if that shooter didn't have a gun. Imagine if he'd only had a
knife, or whatever else he could round up in his garage. How many less people
would have been hurt today.Guns may have had a place in the 18th
century, to stop armed soldiers from demanding to stay in your house. But what
benefit do guns provide in modern society? I mean, besides making certain men
feel more manly...
I am not sure if Flake was a hero. The police and the doctor who treated
Scalise were. What did he do heroically, apply some pressure to an injury?
That's kind of a low bar
Impartial, there were armed men there shooting back. The Capitol Police that
guard the majority whip that go hurt were shooting back and got the bad guy.Personally, I never carry my personal firearm when I'm playing or
reffing a sport. But it is always near by. So your assertion that they should
have been armed themselves is just a plain, uneducated statement.The
bad guy was apparently a Bernie supporter according to Facebook posts published
on several news sites. So this is nothing more than a pissed off lefty with a
weapon.Yes, Trump might have said something stupid during the
campaign about Hillary, but when have any NRA supporters ever caused something
like this? The answer is never.This shooting is a direct result of
the venom from the left and their hatred of Trump, and specifically targeted
Republicans. By the way, I do have personal knowledge of politicians
that do pack concealed weapons. Even in Washington.
@Husker1"Politicizing this tragedy is very classless."Oh it
will get politicized(and it already has) but I think you're more upset
about the timing of my comment. Sandy Hook was politicized before all those
children were even buried.
@Impartial7Armed Capital Police were in site and shot the gunman.
Good guys with guns did in fact save lives today.
We are now shooting Republican congressman while playing softball?Wow...just wow.
@FT "Other than thoughts and prayers our GOP representatives will wait
until they get the NRA's statement to the event before offering a political
response."Politicizing this tragedy is very classless."I don't understand. This was a large group of NRA funded GOP
politicians. The one's that tell us, every time that there's a mass
shooting, that we need more guns, not restrictions. "The only way to stop a
bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun". Why weren't these guys
armed and shooting back?"They weren't armed because they
were playing baseball. Plus, politicians don't typically carry firearms
for obvious reasons. By all accounts, good guys with guns did come to the
@nickeson;"After the baseball practice shooting, it is time to file
appropriate charges of inciting violence against public figures promoting
violence such as"Like when Trump suggested that "the second
amendment people" do something to take care of Hillary? Like that?
After the baseball practice shooting, it is time to file appropriate charges of
inciting violence against public figures promoting violence such as: Madonna,
Kathy Griffin,Snoop Dog,the recent Washington play, the parties encouraging
violent protests at gov. public meetings and those paying violent protesters.
I don't understand. This was a large group of NRA funded GOP politicians.
The one's that tell us, every time that there's a mass shooting, that
we need more guns, not restrictions. "The only way to stop a bad guy with a
gun is a good guy with a gun". Why weren't these guys armed and
Other than thoughts and prayers our GOP representatives will wait until they get
the NRA's statement to the event before offering a political response.