Well look at it this way "vaughn pulsipher"of Sandy, at least the
don-jon has a friendin the mormons....
Middle of the road Mormon - May 30, 2017 7:01 a.m.RE: "I am hopeful
that in 2018 we can stop this current torrent of a presidency by sweeping out
some GOP members of the house, and then in 2020 bring back some respect to the
office of the POTUS"...---Yah... like everything was perfect
when we had a Democrat President and a filibuster-proof Democrat Super-majority
in both houses of Congress...Open your eyes Middle of the road
Mormon.Just turning everything Democrat doesn't fix all our
problems. (Obviously... we have already tried that).You can say it
was a better back then, and I wouldn't disagree. But the ACA was not
perfect either. Who expects Trump-care to be perfect? ACA was not perfect.
And Democrats crafted that piece of work designed to fail (and well on it's
way) on their own.ACA was unsustainable.We needed some
changes. You can debate that these were not the "correct" changes.
But keep in mind what is focus was. A sustainable system, that is economically
feasible, and doesn't bankrupt the government OR private insurance
providers.It's not perfect, but then neither was Obama-Care.Like Democrats said.. we can make changes later.
To "Frozen Fractals" I have criticized Trump. I have not been quiet
about his his bad health insurance ideas. I am sorry that you have not been
paying attention.To "UtahBlueDevil" you seem to forget when
Obama mocked the entire Special Olympics program. Why wasn't that
considered vulgar and horrible? Remember he said, of himself on nation wide TV,
that he bowls like a Special Olympic athlete. Tell us how that was ok and was
not offensive to anybody.To "1aggie" so in essence there was
no difference. The threat remains. The countries that were on Trump's
list still harbor terrorists and a great anti-American sentiment.
Maybe Donald J. Trump is a necessary event, like when we have to release a bunch
of water from the reservoirs. Sure it is dangerous, but then the river gets
cleaned out, and we can start anew.I am hopeful that in 2018 we can
stop this current torrent of a presidency by sweeping out some GOP members of
the house, and then in 2020 bring back some respect to the office of the
POTUS.If Trump gives us that, well that would be positive news about
him, in a way - right?
Vaughn,"That said, I cannot object to any of his policy
decisions, including reducing burdensome government regulations, selecting a
suburb Supreme court nominee in Gorsuch, increasing spending to a depleted
military, moving to make America energy independent, showing courage in bombing
Syrian facilities that murdered its own people by gassing, returning
international respect to America, etc. "Where to start. Ok,
well America has been energy independent for some time now. I believe that
happened under Obama when we started exporting oil from fracking. Most of that
shut down when the Saudis started to increase production. The US secures all of
its energy needs from domestic production of natural gas, oil, some coal, wind
and solar.Our military spending was not depleted. We have more
aircraft carriers than the next largest 6 or 7 navys combined. Enough nukes to
destroy the planet, etc, etc.The bombing of Syria did little to
nothing to stop the Asad regime from it's continued massacring of it's
own people.Trump brings most of this stuff on himself. Sorry you
don't like, may be you should have voted for Cruz, or Rubio.
Let's get real. We've gone from having one of the brightest and
uniquely qualified men this nation has ever produced as our President to Donald
Trump. Obama had the respect and admiration of the entire planet--and you--my
GOP friends, respected him too, in one way or another. You were not ashamed when
he spoke. His wife was beloved and spoke in a way that caused those on your side
to not only respect her, but (ahem)--seek to make her words their own. Remember
that one?Mr. Trump is following a tough act. You would be too (even though
you might be more qualified...). His administration looking like the wreckage of
what was once Trumps Taj Majal in Atlantic City. Don't expect strong and
talented journalists to wait for you to give them permission. They will do their
jobs. Ask yourself right now, what is the job of a free press? To tell you the
sweet things you wish you could hear, or the truth--even if you pretend that the
truth is something bendable. And if you truly don't want to hear these
things? Well, I'm sorry, but your children do. I'm a teacher and I
will continue to reference the Washington Post and the New York Times. It would
be cowardly not to.
Redshirt:"For example, when Obama put a ban on Muslims from entering
the US if they have passports from certain countries, the press ignored it or
else said that it was a good thing. When Trump does the EXACT same thing
suddenly it is wrong."Except that Trump didn't do the EXACT
same thing as Obama. immigration actions to Obama’s policy in
2011 is a faulty one. The fact is that the Obama administration was responding
to a known and specific threat from one country (Iraq) and limited its response
(temporary slowdown while it rescreened evidence from IEDs used in Iraq and
rescreened refugees from Iraq) to refugees from that country, while
Trump’s order temporarily bans refugees from all countries —
indefinitely in the case of those from Syria — and temporarily bars all
other visitors from seven predominantly Muslim countries.(Factcheck)
The writer wants to hear more quotes from the Washington Times, which is owned
by what used to be called the "Moonies". The WT makes the DN look like
the Daily Worker in many ways.A commenter writes: " I would be like
the Democrats who would never criticize one of their own no matter how many lies
were told or classified documents were found on an unauthorized server."---- bringing up issues that were supposedly criminal prior to 2013, but were
never proven criminal by eager, deep-pocketed republicans seems desperate or
delusional at very best.Just yesterday, Mr Trump, who called Hillary
lacking in stamina (implying that women are weak) used a golf cart to follow
behind strolling world leaders in Taormina, Sicily.His more honest
followers admit his quirks and declare they still like him anyway
Gildas - LOGAN, UTMay 27, 2017 9:00 a.m.About two-thirds of
the population know that most of the media lie continually. That is why they do
not trust it, read or watch it any longer. Nor do they believe in
the politicians that repeatedly lie, deceive, and fail to keep their promises,
and the parties that keep seeking to deceive the people. Nor do they trust the
pollsters who were so wrong about the last presidential election.
Most of the people are right.======== 70% of Americans
think Trump is pathelogical LIAR60% DISAPROVE of him as POTUSTrump
LOST the popular vote of "the People".Using your own logic -
YOU fail defending Trump.
How can one excuse Donald J. Trump for his "personal style or tweets"
because he is "not a career politician and comes from free enterprise".
THINK! Donald J. Trump is simply a boorish narcissist with the vocabulary of a
third grader (and corresponding depth of thought). Having participated in
"free enterprise" most of my adult life, I find it to offer no
justification for bad or crude behavior. He, Donald J. Trump ran a family
business, banked by his father and replete with fraud and deceit. Put simply, he
is no one to model one's life on. Yes, he appears rich, mostly through
debt, but not rich in character. So much for the man.What of his
governance of our nation? He has created a reality TV show that consumes too
much of our time and consideration... our political leaders should bring our
nation peace and security not agitation and fear. His rule by executive order
shows no semblance of policy or thoughtfulness. He lied to his base by catering
to the super rich. He inspires nothing but hatred. So you want fewer negative
stories, please write your congressmen and challenge them to overcome the most
inept leader of the free world, because He, Donald J. Trump is useless.
If reporting the truth about Trump makes you made, that says more about you than
it does about journalism.
About two-thirds of the population know that most of the media lie continually.
That is why they do not trust it, read or watch it any longer. Nor
do they believe in the politicians that repeatedly lie, deceive, and fail to
keep their promises, and the parties that keep seeking to deceive the people.
Nor do they trust the pollsters who were so wrong about the last presidential
election. Most of the people are right.
"A poll last week by the respected Harvard University..."I
guess even ivory tower elites can prove useful on occasion.
"mocking handicapped,"saying McCain isn't worthy of
respect because he was a PoW.""The stories are negative
because Trump's behavior, policies and tweets are negative.""Germany is 'bad, very bad'""rrain wreck
that is the Trump administration.""Nothing positive to write
about...""Whatever he gets, he's earned it.""The thing with Trump is he is a habitual liar, groper and has to
many links to Russia."narcissist""95% of
everything he does and says is negative."All distortions and
Redshirt... the fact that you can list these all off just supports that they
were covered. Just do a search on any of those things you posted and you
thousands of responses.And yes, there is a huge difference between
making stupid mistakes and statements (find me someone who hasn't) and
making vulgar statements,mocking handicapped, saying McCain isn't worthy of
respect because he was a PoW.... I know you will not be able to see the
difference between these and those you just sited, but many people can, and do.
@RedShirt"The follies of the previous administration were equal to
Trump, yet we only see the attacks on Trump. Where is the consistency?"Even if they were equal, which they sure aren't, but for the sake
of this question let's pretend... when have you ever criticized Trump?
Where's the consistency?
@redshirt."The follies of the previous administration were equal
to Trump, yet we only see the attacks on Trump. Where is the
consistency?"Nope, it is like night and day. Trump is comedic
gold and if he can not stand the heat maybe he shouldn't start fires.
To "UtahBlueDevil" you seem to be forgetting all of the silly things
that Obama and Biden did that were largely ignored.How about giving
the Queen of England an iPod with his greatest speeches on it.How
about removing the bust of Winston Churchill.How about giving the PM
of England a set of DVDs that he can't use in England.You have
Obama saying they visited 47 states, and still had 7 states to go.Biden's 3 letter word J-O-B-SObama telling Putin he will have
more flexibility after the election of 2012.Biden telling people
they will get the swine flu by flying on an airplane.Biden telling
the US that 7-11s and Dunkin’ Donuts are full of people with strange
accents.Remember in 2008 when Biden said "Can you believe an
African-American is clean and articulate" about Obama?How about
when Biden asked the guy in the wheel chair to stand up.The follies
of the previous administration were equal to Trump, yet we only see the attacks
on Trump. Where is the consistency?
Case and point from today.... "During a meeting with top leaders of the
European Union, President Donald Trump said “the Germans are bad, very
bad,” according to participants in the room who spoke to German newspaper
Der Spiegel."Germany is "bad, very bad"..... Trump
wants to start a trade war with Germany. Add to this the following..."German media translated "bad" as "boese" which can also
mean evil, which made the comments sound more serious when translated back into
English."Trumps campaign then clarified the language... but
Trumps off the cuff remarks are a problem. He needs to speak in more measured
terms. Further, he needs to understand the subject matter better. 11 times
today he said he wants to negotiate a trade deal with Germany, to which the
Germans said that is impossible as Germany is part of the EU. He need to
negotiate with the EU. On the 12th try, he finally got it... and said he wold
negotiate with the EU then.Trump needs to understand as President,
he can't just say what comes to mind. That is why he is filing the media
with 90% plus confusion and angst.
Perhaps Trump needs to stop doing 93% silly things? Could be a quick way to
fix the problem.....@JoeCapitalist2 - the problem with your
statement is fewer and fewer American believe the way the Republican party does.
Per most recent political party membership registrations, Republicans are down
to 26% of voters, Democrats are at 29%, and "independents" now sit at
42% - up from 30% in 2004. Lets not confuse election results with
peoples sentiments or political views. Our elections are skewed in that they
often give us false choices - the last being a great example where the negatives
for both Hillary and Trump were off the scale. People were not choosing between
people they believe in, but choosing between the least of two bad choices. Obama never bragged about dropping women because he could. Obama never
mocked a handicapped report. Obama didn't send out tweets to random
events. Unfortunately Trump has an unbridled PR strategy that was great while
running for office - but now as President - everything will be analyzed. Trump is the source of this himself. He controls what he says, not the
To "LOU Montana" actually no, Obama did not. The same Harvard study
found that Obama had a majority of positive stories about him and his
policies.To "airnaut" and all other liberals. The problem
isn't that the media isn't reporting on what Trump is doing, it is the
fact that they take anything and twist it to make Trump look bad.For
example, when Obama put a ban on Muslims from entering the US if they have
passports from certain countries, the press ignored it or else said that it was
a good thing. When Trump does the EXACT same thing suddenly it is wrong.When the Press (and liberals) gave the previous President a pass or even
praise for his policies and now they condemn Trump for doing the same thing it
only makes liberals and the press look bad. It is also an irritant to everybody
else because they know what Obama did and can see the hypocrisy.
"I don't remember all these anti-Obama jokes when he was elected. In
fact it seems the late night talk show guys were totally afraid to make fun of
President Obama."Maybe there just wasn't much to joke about
with "No-drama Obama." He took the office seriously and was mature and
measured in his conduct. He was not an embarrassment to the country. But, hey,
Trump's yours. You voted for him. You have to put up with the well-deserved
comedy that he so naturally and often unwittingly produces. The whole Republican
charade is a joke. Get used to it.
93 percent? Only 93 percent. It should be a lot higher!
"Obama did plenty of stupid things while he was president. He said some
awful things and made a bunch of controversial statements. The press NEVER held
him to anything close to the same standard they seem to think Trump should
conform to."Because making jokes and negatives would have been
deemed racist, and leftist will bend over backwards to avoid what they are.
2 bits-Mockery does not happen if the president is presidential.Trump is not. He is a board room bully and crass to the core.He is
everything the American president is NOT supposed to be.Obama was
and is a gentleman...he got his share of digs, but he never gave the world so
much ammunition.Trump tweets and lies himself to the front----he deserves
every criticism and jab that he gets, and more.He is a disaster, and
creates everything that is said about him.The news and comedy worlds are
not creating anything, they are simply acting on what trump does.If trump
and you don't like it, don't watch, or change the behavior and
nonsense.You reap what you sow...and trump sows a lot of idiocy.
2 bits-You seem concerned about the liberal bent of late night talk shows.
Are you as concerned about the conservative bent of talk radio? It appears
liberals watch more late night tv than conservatives do. Fallon's ratings
took a hit because he was taking it too easy on Trump. The market spoke and
said that they expect hosts to go after Trump. Just like liberal radio shows
don't do as well as conservative ones do. Why doesn't Rush Limbaugh go
after Repubs once in awhile? So unless you want to start enforcing equal time
rules, not sure what the problem is.Obama wasn't perfect for
sure, but you really can't compare him as a target for comedy or negative
press vs Trump. The guy begs for attention and he gets it.
JoeC.."I would be like the Democrats who would never criticize one of their
own no matter how many lies were told or classified documents were found on an
unauthorized server."That's the problem Joe, you all
thought we were supporting a behavior that we weren't because we were
dismantling the lies the right was telling about "classified documents, and
unauthorized servers". I don't any "liberals" who
thought the server was a good idea or who would support it as a practice, but
after yeaaaaars of investigation it was proved over and over that it wasn't
illegal nor that anything was on it that was illegal. The same
holds true with the President. If the right would have allowed a reasonable
discussion it would have been easy to discuss his shortcomings...but no we had
to listen to the nonsense of obstructionists. The problem with
Trump is he just serves his own ineptitude up on a platter.
@Lia -7:59 a.m.RE: "@2 bits...What do you WANT them to
do...lie?"...---Did I say I want them to lie?How
about they just do what they did when Obama was President... talk about and make
jokes about something else.Nobody asked them to lie. Just maybe
make one or two jokes that are about something besides mocking the President.They didn't mock President Obama every day. And he gave them
plenty of material to make jokes about. They don't mock Democrats in
their monologue every day, and they give them plenty to joke about. That's
the point. Don't have to lie. But at least show a modicum of balance.If Jimmie Fallen tells 15 jokes in his monologue, 14 of them are Trump
jokes.I'm pretty sure the other guy is even worse (from the few
seconds I see before I can change the channel, and the obscenity laced
anti-Trump rant that got him in trouble).Did you see lotsa jokes
about Obama in his first 100 days? I didn't. And he did have some
setbacks (as Trump has).I'm just pointing out how unequal
it's been. Not asking anybody to lie about Trump. Just maybe ignore him
for 15 seconds and make a joke about something else.
@2 bits...What do you WANT them to do...lie? and say what a great man he
is?Sorry--he gives them no reason to.He is completely out of his
depth--trying and flailing ---at the presidency.The sooner he is removed
from office, the better.
Donald Trump's own worst enemy... is Donald Trump. It's not even
close.Conservatives and conservative media used to repeatedly deride
Joe Biden for his gaffes. (Remember when Ted Cruz gave a two word punch line at
conservative gatherings: "Joe Biden!")Joe Biden was a
little leaguer when it came to self-inflicted wounds, compared to our current
POTUS, who is a real life version of Yosemite Sam... just more loud, uninformed
and bombastic.In future political textbooks, a photo of Trump will
be next to the main rules of politics: "When your opponent is in the middle
of destroying themselves... Stay Off the Stage!"
People really really need to stop relying on cherry picked data points from this
study (not a poll) being spoon feed to them but outlets like bretbart and fox
and actually read the study. While the study clearly admonishes the media for
focusing on negative news stories it clearly does not blame some liberal bias
and is very no complimentary towards Trump and his manipulation of the media.
The military is depleted? What evidence do you have to support that? What's
a suburb Supreme Court justice? Someone not from the downtown area?Get Educated
The stories are negative because Trump's behavior, policies and tweets are
negative. His administration exudes negativity, why would one expect the stories
written about him or his administration to be anything but negative. There is no
way to put a Fox news positive spin on the train wreck that is the Trump
So you are suggesting that the press lie?If the truth is
uncomfortable, perhaps someone needs to change how they are acting.
Shaun: "@joecaptialist. Are you not blinded by your ideology?"If I constantly insisted that Trump never did anything wrong and blamed all
his criticism on racists and homophobes, then you might have a point. I would be
exactly like all the liberals who could never say anything bad about Obama or
Hillary. I would be like the Democrats who would never criticize one of their
own no matter how many lies were told or classified documents were found on an
unauthorized server.Since I do none of those things with Trump, then
I can honestly say NO, I am not blinded by my ideology.
Nothing positive to write about.
Sorry Vaughn if you look at the media around the world you will see Trump is
there every day for one miss-step or another and it isn't just the Liberal
providers.The list of countries who have been insulted grows every
month. Now you may consider who cares about Taiwan, Australia, Mexico, Germany
etc. However in this complex World simple minded comments can quickly leave you
friendless.Remember 18 months to Mid Terms and a Lame Duck
Mark Twain once admonished "Never pick a fight with people who buy ink by
the barrel". In other words, the press. Trump needs the press, and plays to
get their attention. Yet he despises the press, not just at an emotional level
but a visceral hatred of an enemy kind of thing. And yet, he does and says
so many stupid things. His blatant lies, contradictions of himself, woeful
ignorance and ego are an amazing combination of talents that have put him into
territory occupied by none of his predecessors. He doesn't generate a lot
of good news, and deserves little if any praise for simply not doing something
foolish or inane. He's done nothing to curry favour of the press, but a lot
to curry enmity. Whatever he gets, he's earned it.
@joecaptialist. Are you not blinded by your ideology?Conservatives think trump is being treated harshly but if you look back at the
debates and his rallies he is the cause for the negative reporting. He treated his fellow candidates poorly. He was outspoken, brash and conceded.
He is a classic narcissist.
LOU Montana: "President Obama had to deal with the same thing and possibly
more."airnaut: "The media does NOT make this stuff up. Trump
does things, the media simply reports it."Poll after poll
clearly shows that both these statements are in the minority. Most people not
blinded by their ideology recognize that the liberal new media does not treat
Republicans with the kid gloves it does to their friends in the Democrat
Party.Obama did plenty of stupid things while he was president. He
said some awful things and made a bunch of controversial statements. The press
NEVER held him to anything close to the same standard they seem to think Trump
should conform to.Trump has certainly said and did some things that
I don't agree with, but a little fairness in the reporting (both what to
report and what not to report) would be refreshing. But that would be like
asking the hyper-partisan commenters on this forum to stop the hateful rhetoric.
It just is not going to happen.
The media does NOT make this stuff up.Trump does things, the
media simply reports it.If you don't want to hear about all the
stupid things Donald Trump does over and over again, either turn off the
news, or tell Donald Trump to stop being so stupid!
You got to report the news, and Trump makes negative news, apparently 90% of the
time.You should write of all the positive things that Trump is doing
in a letter to the editor.I wish you the best of luck in providing us
readers with all the positive things Trump does and says. This will be a hard
Perhaps the reason that 95 % of all news stories about Trump are negative has
something to do with the fact (not the alternative fact) that 95% of everything
he does and says is negative.
We are energy independent, our military is only depleted as it relates to
manpower with our involvement in 7 wars, a 1.4 million $ bomb on 36 jihadists
and 59 missles that didn't even disrupt future Syrian flights is hardly
making a statement and besides wasting money it probably was illegal. Another
question to the author is how, in the world, are regulations preventing dumping
in rivers burdening us? Throw away those burdensome ethics rules and while we
are at it let's repeal the emoluments clause of the Constitution because it
too doesn't fit the so-called agenda for this administration. Negative
stories have always been the norm especially since Watergate, but if 45
doesn't like it he better walk a righteous path.
If you included all the anti-Trump jokes on late night comedy shows (takes up
almost their whole monologue on every one I watch)... it's even worse.I don't remember all these anti-Obama jokes when he was elected.In fact it seems the late night talk show guys were totally afraid to
make fun of President Obama.
Instead of writing to the D-News for reporting Trump's negative behavior,
you should write to Trump and ask him to stop behaving negatively. Everyday
Trump tweets, says or acts in a negative manner. The D-News is only reporting
President Obama had to deal with the same thing and possibly more. The thing with Trump is he is a habitual liar, groper and has to many links to