"Most of Michigan's injured players were back for the Holiday Bowl and
that same group of players finished #2 in the Final AP poll in 1985."What does '85 have to do w/'84?It's a given
kids improve from year-to-year....However, 6-6 screams mediocre....Can't
put lipstick on a pig.UM was so good that year that byu's Sos
finished the year ranked 3rd worst in the nation, when they had a slew of narrow
Ws against mediocre-to-poor teams, including 3-7-1 Pitt, who got steamrolled by
Ou on the identical field merely 2 weeks later....Lol.
UteologyMichigan 1984 was MUCH better than their 6-6 record,
especially defensively.The started the season beating then #1 Miami
and were ranked #3 and were very much in the discussion for a national
championship when they lost to eventual #2 Washington 11-20.Michigan
was still in the hunt for a national championship, ranked #13 in early October,
before a rash of injuries derailed their national championship aspirations.Most of Michigan's injured players were back for the Holiday Bowl
and that same group of players finished #2 in the Final AP poll in 1985.
Which division/conference titles are byu playing for?The PAC-12 has
only existed since '11....Since then, byu is merely 4-9 against them, only
beating bottom-dwellers & getting blown-out more than once on their
homefield.byu is 1-9 against The PAC-12 South, w/their only W coming
against bottom-feeder U of A on a last second FG....Lol.
@PhoenixThe 1984 Wolverines finished 6-6, Bo’s first and only
non-winning season at Michigan. Worse MI teams? 1967 and then
2003.Congrats, on an impressive win!
UteologyThe ONLY thing that separated BYU from going 2-1 vs the PAC
12 in 2016 was a missed two-point conversion.Versus the PAC 12 since
2005BYU is 11-13 (46%)Utah is 25-29 (46%)The vast
disparity that our insecure little brothers claim exists between BYU and Utah is
nothing but a crimson-colored pipe dream.
UteologyUtah, like James Madison, is nationally irrelevant, with
zero CFP and NY6 invitations.The Utes aren't even capable of
winning a division title.
UteologyStudy the list a little more carefully and tell us how many
PAC 12 teams ranked higher than BYU the Utes beat, and how many teams ranked
lower than BYU the Utes lost to.The truth is, beating BYU helped
propel U into the AP, Coaches, and CFP Top 25.If BYU's
two-point conversion had been successful, BYU would have been ranked in the AP,
Coaches, and CFP, and the Utes would have been unranked.
TheSportsAuthority - Arlington, VAMay 3, 2017 12:43 p.m."BYU is
always better than half the PAC 12,"2016#4 Washington#10 USC#18 Stanford#26 Colorado#36 BYU#37
Utah#58 Cal#70 UCLA#75 OSU#77 Oregon#90 ASU#102 Arizona----------------So is #33 James Madison.
LOLLike BYU, JM is nationally irrelevant with ZERO CFP poll
appearances.Also like BYU, JM wouldn't finish 14-1 in a
SportsFan - Provo, UTMay 3, 2017 7:35 a.m.Uteology The
ONLY thing that separated BYU from finishing 2016 ranked, and Utah not, was
BYU's failed 2-point conversion.BYU is ALWAYS better than at
least half of your PAC 12 opponents.----------------You
are, then why is BYU 1-9 vs PAC-12 South? Your only win was over 4-8 Arizona
at a neutral site.The ONLY thing that separated BYU from going 0-10
vs P12 South was a timeout.
SpokaneUte"Wow, what a huge victory over #24 Air Force."It's hilarious how Utah fans constantly beat their chests about
their glorious, undefeated 2004 season, when the only decent team U beat was #25
Pittsburgh at a neutral site...and to "qualify" for a BCS
bowl, you didn't beat a single team that finished with better than a 7-5
record.What U and most BYU haters conveniently overlook about 1984
is the Michigan victory was the culmination of a 24-game winning streak and
back-to-back Top 7 finishes, an achievement so unfathomable on the hill, that it
doesn't even register on your radar.Compare BYU 1979-1984, with
Utah 1999-2004 or 2003-2008, and it's easy to see...-how BYU
was able to convince the majority poll voters that BYU 1984 wasn't just a
fluke and deserved to be selected national champions. -why Utah was
considered a fluke and was never given serious national championship
consideration.Utah was barely ranked for the first time in a decade
in 2003.Utah had been unranked for three straight seasons in 2007.
Spokane UtePick One:A. Win this bowl and you'll
finish 1st.B. Win this bowl and you'll finish 2nd.Which
bowl do you pick?
Spokane Ute"Playing in the Sugar Bowl in their back yard and
being "unmotivated". Yeah right. That's a real knee
slapper."Only from a crimson-goggled Utah fan's
perspective.Most Alabama fans and players were bitterly disappointed
that the Tide was stuck playing a meaningless game against a team from the MWC,
rather than playing Oklahoma for the national championship.Prior to
the game, a reporter asked Nick Saban about the 2009 Sugar Bowl, and he had this
to say:"There's very little interest from our fans, our
players or anybody else to play in the Sugar Bowl,"
Spokane Ute"I will take a victory over 11-1 Alabama in their
back yard over a narrow defeat of the worst Michigan team in Bo
Shembelchers[sic] career any day."Not if meant playing for a
National Championship, rather than a 2nd-place finish in one poll.btw, calling the Michigan team that BYU beat the worst Bo Schembechler team in
history, simply demonstrates how clueless you are about how good that team was,
especially defensively.If Michigan had beaten Ohio St in their
regular season finale, the Wolverines would have been playing in the Rose Bowl
instead of the Holiday Bowl. The same group of players that lost to
BYU in 1984, finished #2 in the final AP poll in 1985.
talkin nonsenseI will take a victory over 11-1 Alabama in their back
yard over a narrow defeat of the worst Michigan team in Bo Shembelchers career
any day. Playing in the Sugar Bowl in their back yard and being
"unmotivated". Yeah right. That's a real knee slapper. .
Just the FalseBYU beat #24 Air Force on the road in 1984.Who
did Utah beat during the entire regular season in 1944?----------------------I could care less about 1944. Wow, what a huge
victory over #24 Air Force. That's something to hang your hat on. No
mention of beating that mighty 6-6 Michigan team? Now that's curious.
AZUTE1So BYU's #12 ranking with an 11-2 record and a SOS of #61
is laughable,but, Utah's #23 ranking with a 9-4 record and a
SOS of #60 is legitimate?Only in the delusional world of Utedom.
Despite the spin from the hill, the biggest difference between BYU 2016 and Utah
2016 was a failed two-point conversion - which was ultimately determined by one
missed block.If BYU's two-point conversion had been
successful:- BYU would have beaten Utah 21-20- BYU would have
finished 10-3- BYU would have finished the season ranked in the AP,
Coaches, and CFP Top 25- Utah would have lost to BYU 20-21-
Utah would have finished 8-5- Utah would have finished the season unranked
in the AP, Coaches, and CFP Top 25---------------Spokane
Ute"Sure beats beating a 6-6 Michigan team and winning a bogus
NC by default over 30 years ago."Don't kid yourself.There isn't a team in the country that wouldn't trade a Sugar
Bowl Trophy for a Crystal Football National Championship Trophy...in
a heartbeat.It's absolutely hysterical how jealous Utah fans
whine about 1984, but don't feel any shame, whatsoever, in hanging that
1944 NCAA tournament championship banner in the Huntsman.BYU beat
#24 Air Force on the road in 1984.Who did Utah beat during the entire
regular season in 1944?
54-IQPlease enlighten us why the most important metric of success
for the mighty PAC 12 Utes is their head-to-head record versus their big
beats beating a 6-6 Michigan team..."Since BYU was already
ranked #1 in BOTH major polls, beating Michigan secured the 1984 National
Championship for BYU.Remind us what beating an unmotivated Alabama
team secured for U...oh, yaa distant 2nd place finish in
Weber State's Little Sister:The truth is, your only truly
significant accomplishment on a national scale was beating Alabama in the Sugar
Bowl, and that only earned U a distant 2nd place finish in one poll, not even
close to winning a consensus National Championship.--------Sure
beats beating a 6-6 Michigan team and winning a bogus NC by default over 30
years ago. At least we earned what we got that season. How sad to be reduced to
having to jump in your time machine on every thread. When's the last time
you were even ranked? Utah finished in the top 25 the last 3 years Sporto.
BlueCoug - Provo, UTMay 4, 2017 1:10 p.m.Please enlighten us
with the head to head statistics for the last decade.We'll
AZUTE1"Comparing BYU '06-'09 to U '12-'16 is
straight ridiculous when one considers SOS..."The rankings speak
for themselves.BYU - THREE Top 15 finishes2006 #16/#152007 #14/#152008 #25/#212009 #12/#12Utah - ZERO Top 15
finishes2013 unranked2014 #22/#212015 #17/#162016
#23/#21It's hilarious how rankings are only
"meaningful" to Utah fans when they support your crimson-colored view of
the world.Utah's SOS in 2004 (#67) and in 2008 (#56).hmmm...I guess we shouldn't count Utah's rankings then
either.btw, BYU's 2007 SOS was #59 and in 2009 it was #61;
Utah's SOS in 2016 was #60.Such a "massive" difference.
Comparing byu '06-'09 to U '12-'16 is straight ridiculous
when one considers SOS....Lol.
BCS bowl games/CFP Poll + 6 straight & counting & 11 of 14....Who's
bro roscoe"yes BYU fans, U have storied history, much like Army
and Colorado, (Utah's new rival)"- Army and Colorado have
NEVER finished a season ranked #1 AP and #1 Coaches- Your "new
rival" barely knows that U exist - to the Buffs, you're just another
conference foe- Utah fans come on a blog about Utah football and do
nothing but attack BYU fans for daring to compare BYU football to Utah
football- the 80's may have been a long time ago, but BYU still
accomplished more then, than Utah has accomplished in the last hundred and
twenty-three seasonsUtah fans desperately try to pretend that
college football history didn't begin until 2003, because before then, Utah
never had conference champion that was ranked in the final Top 25.
Spokane Ute"When was the last time BYU actually BEAT Utah on the
field Mr. Helper? You seem to have missed that one. I also notice no mention of
BCS bowls?"It's interesting how Utah fans constantly whine
about the "age" of BYU accomplishments, that Utah has NEVER achieved.When was the last time Utah? ...- won a National
Championship- won a Heisman Trophy- had a player inducted into the
National College Football Hall of Fame- had the best QB, Passer, RB or
Interior Lineman in the country- finished in the AP Top 25 four straight
seasons- played in 12 straight bowl games- had back-to-back Top 7
finishes- had back-to-back 11+ win seasonsYou brag about
winning a bunch of recent, extremely close head-to-head games versus BYU, but
what exactly did that accomplish for Utah on a national scale?The
truth is, your only truly significant accomplishment on a national scale was
beating Alabama in the Sugar Bowl, and that only earned U a distant 2nd place
finish in one poll, not even close to winning a consensus National Championship.
yes byU fans, U have storied history, much like Army and Colorado, (Utah's
new rival), why is that the only drum U all can bang? Come on a thread about
Utah football and try convince anyone that your school is relevant? Seems a tad
frantic and emotional.The past 25 years have been very mediocre to say the
least. The 80's were a long time ago and a lot has changed since then, just
@whatsinaname? - Saratoga Srpings, UTMay 3, 2017 9:20 a.m." yet the first 2 comments here were by our fav Ute trolls."I'm glad I'm your fav. Now go back and read my comment. It was on
point and honest and said nothing about anyone other than Utah. By the way,
Utah is my second favorite college football team in Utah. I like the team and
the school, its just some of its fans I challenge when they fabricate and
pontificate. And yes, my favorite school in the state has their fair share
@2BCSWINS - West of I15, UTMay 3, 2017 7:13 a.m."The
mighty cougies are hundreds of steps behind UCLA and Utah so not sure what your
point is?"Since when did "hundreds of steps" equal a
@Uteology - East Salt Lake City, UtahMay 3, 2017 12:10 a.m."It depends on the offense, we'll have to wait until after week 3.
Lucky for us the first three games are scrimmages. Hardest to
easiest games:@ USC@WashingtonStanford@OregonWashigton State@ArizonaColoradoUCLAASUSan
Jose@BYU (Utah is 6-3 LES)"------------------See, when you do this you call in to question the legitimacy and accuracy of
any of your statements and/or opinions. It shows that insulting your opponent
is more important than accuracy. You also left off North Dakota State.In my opinion BYU will be Utah's 6th toughest opponent. You may not
agree with it, but at least it is an honest attempt.
@AZUTE1 - Mesa, AZMay 2, 2017 2:30 p.m."We did schedule 3
patsies OOC this year in preparation for our straight brutal conference
schedule."Are you not capable of having a legitimate discussion
about sports without throwing straight shade. Please provide some substance.
If you truly believe BYU is a patsy, then tell us why you think that. And
don't forget to explain why Utah has such a tough time with this Patsy
everything is awesome - Cedar City, UT-----------When was the last
time BYU actually BEAT Utah on the field Mr. Helper? You seem to have missed
that one. I also notice no mention of BCS bowls? Now that's curious.
headbangerBYU has had many accomplishments since 1991.-
a 14-1, Top 5 season- a Doak Walker award winner- four straight AP
Top 25 seasons- 12 straight bowl games- more 11+ win seasons than
Utah has had in their entire history - as many conference championships as
Utah has had since 1965
talkinsports - Gilbert, AZ"BYU accomplished more from 1979 to
1991 (13 seasons), than Utah's accomplished in its entire 123 season
history."So you're admitting byu hasn't done anything
since 1991? Wow! I didn't think it was that bad. Thanks for correcting
me.But after all that, byu fans are really upset at the fact that
all they have is ancient history accolades, and Utah continues to widen the gap.
So the cougs have to keep resorting to data decades old to feel relevant today.
The angst will continue. (see 50% posters are y fans) on this thread
2BCSWINS opened a door when he said "Have an Idea for you when the cougies
actually beat Utah on the field where it matters or better yet beat a team that
finishes the season ranked come talk to us."Here's my idea
since you like that slippery slope: 'When utah actually wins the PAC 12,
wins a National Championship and wins a Heisman Trophy, or goes to the Rose Bowl
and wins it on New Years instead of during a regular season game when the play
UCLA, come talk to us.' (Oops, I left out a consistent string of going to
ANY bowl games, too......i.e. u's first 2 years in the Conference of
Champions where you watched from the comfort of your living room sofa.)The 2 BCS wins didn't impress anyone after another year passed, except
maybe Dr. Hill. Let's see, just who did they beat? I have a hard time
remembering......oh, right, one was Alabama and most "Y" fans cheered
for utah (which of course was never returned by ute fans) and who was the other
team...was it UTEP or Arkansas State....I forget.
AZUTE1"We're ranked 100% of the time in the only poll that
matters these days, ..."Yes, that poll matters soooo much that U
were stuck playing #69 Indiana(6-7) in a meaningless bowl.Your
awesome 2-point win was so "impressive", that Sagarin ranked U behind
BYU in his final rankings.And your slim 1-point win over irrelevant,
Independent BYU, was, by far, your 2nd best win of the season.
Spokane UteAs opposed to the usual insecure suspects who continue to
live in denial that a distant #2 finish in one poll is somehow superior to a
consensus National Championship?
whatsinaname?Love how Utah fans hypocritically brag about their 1944
NCAA title, then claim that BYU's 1984 National Championship is
irrelevant.-----------------------112 Pack"How about the last 3, 5 or 10 years? "BYU 2006-2009Four straight AP Top 25 FinishesThree AP Top 16 FinishesThree 11+
win seasonsBack-to-back conference championships3 of 4
head-to-headUtah 2013-2016Three straight AP Top 25 FinishesZero AP Top 16 FinishesZero 11+ win seasonsZero conference
championships3 of 3 head-to-headThe Utes have never had
back-to-back 11+ win seasons or back-to-back Top 15 seasons.BYU
hasn't had a losing season since 2004Utah had back-to-back losing
seasons in 2012-2013.BYU has played in 12 straight bowls.Utah
has never played in more than 9 straight bowls.
love how all the cougs have hi jacked this thread to prove to any an all that
their team is still relevant. lol. Lets all hop in the way back machine to
1972, smdh. I went back 25 years, a nice easy # that many posters can
relate to and even remember.Simply head to head, I guess that doesn't
fit the cougar narrative of relevance. 1984!And lets just stop with the
persecution complex, people don't like byU because of this thread.
headbanger"You paste the exact same thing over and over
again."And U never have a rebuttal other than clueless
conference membership drivel that has absolutely NOTHING to do with the quality
of BYU's athletic programs, especially football.If the Utes
were really as accomplished as U claim, why did it take U over 100 seasons to
crack the final AP rankings for the very first time?By 1994, when
Utah finally cracked the final AP poll for the very first time, BYU had already
won a National Championship, a Heisman Trophy, and finished in the AP Top 25
ELEVEN times.BYU accomplished more from 1979 to 1991 (13 seasons),
than Utah's accomplished in its entire 123 season history.And
that's not hyperbole, it's an absolute verifiable FACT!
BlueCoug - Provo, UT----------How about the last 3, 5 or 10 years?
Oh yeah that's right, gotta set the time machine to a setting that suits
your agenda. How sad, but very accurate.
We're ranked 100% of the time in the only poll that matters these days, The
CFP Poll, a poll in which byu's ranked 0% of the time, period.
whatsinaname?Since 1972BYU 28 (with 22 conference
championships, 17 AP Top 25 finishes)Utah 16 (with 5 conference
championships, 8 AP Top 25 finishes)Unfortunately for U, during
Utah's leather helmet era dominance, the Utes didn't have a single 10+
win season or AP Top 25 finish.
Snack WAC:You paste the exact same thing over and over again. Maybe
you should send that info to the PAC 12, Big 10 or even the SEC (Probably not
the Big 12) That info is a shoe-in for a conference invite. Or maybe everyone
outside the Provo bubble isn't too impressed. I guess when your team
hasn't done anything in 21 years, that's what you have to resort to.
If Utah is so "great" versus PAC 12 teams, why is Utah the ONLY PAC 12
South team that hasn't won a division title?Even during the
season in which the Utes "tied" for the division title, the Utes
finished with a LOSING record versus PAC 12 South opponents.Despite
their chest beating, the mid-PAC Utes still haven't achieved anything of
significance in the conference.btw, unlike Utah, BYU isn't
afraid to play teams from any P5 conference.Call us the first time
Utah plays teams from the PAC 12, SEC, B1G and Big 12 in the same season. Call us the first time Utah plays 2 SEC teams in the same season.
TDUteJealous Utah fans can spin all they want to about Utah's
supposed superiority, but unfortunately for U, the Utes have absolutely no
legacy to back up their false bravado.National ChampionshipsBYU 1 > Utah 0Heisman TrophiesBYU 1 > Utah 0National Hall of Fame PlayersBYU 6 > Utah 0All-time AP Top 100#34 BYU > #63 UtahAP Poll History -
Weeks ranked...at #1 BYU 4 > Utah 0...in Top 5 BYU 17 > Utah
9...in Top 10 BYU 58 > Utah 28...in Top 25 BYU 242 > Utah
11211+ Win SeasonsBYU 11 > Utah 2Conference
champions ranked in the AP Top 25BYU 14 > Utah 3AP Top 25
FinishesBYU 17 > Utah 8Despite the cherry picking of stats
on the hill,when it comes to comparing overall national
accomplishments, the Utes don't even begin to compare to
BYU.It's hilarious how Utah fans try to inflate Utah's
rankings by cherry picking teams on their schedule.#1 > #2
regardless of who U played.
headbanger"Wow! With all that, please tell us why no conference
wants you?"It's very simple - religious bigotry and
discrimination.There's absolutely NO QUESTION that BYU's
overall athletic program and football legacy dwarfs Utah's.
@ Sports authority, why such emotional rantings? Win a game on the field and
then come on these message boards and gloat, but not until. 6 in a row and
of the last 25 games utah is up 16-9 and 11/14 with half of those wins coming
at cougar stadium. That's not even a trend anymore, that's just a
growing gap.Who cares how u do against Arizona? Head to head is what
BYU fans can throw up any history they want but ultimately the facts are that
they have a losing record against 9 out the 12 teams in the PAC-12. They are
ahead of Cal (3-1), Washington State (3-1) and they are tied with Oregon (3-3).
BYU has never beaten USC or Stanford....and their record against the Utes is
31-54. And....keep in mind that if BYU fans can use a period of time that puts
their team in a better light, then we can also play that game of citing overall
history. Even if you bring it up-to-date and cite the history since BYU went
independent, they still lose against the PAC-12 (4-9)....and the past 6 in a row
against arch rival Utah. (Ouch....that last one hurt, right, Cougs?)Utah: Nationally ranked in both CFP and AP, member of a P5 conference. 35
players drafted into the NFL since 2005, or the Coach Whit era.BYU:
Unranked in both CFP and AP, independent. 13 players drafted into the NFL since
2005.So seriously, who has the best program in the State of Utah?
Sports A:"btw, remind us the last time Utah had four straight Top 25
finishes, including three out of four Top 16 finishes."Btw,
remind us the last time byu actually finished the season ranked. Or better yet,
beat a team that actually finished ranked, a P5 team that is."headbanger"Remember, BYU is 4-9 vs the PAC 12 since
2011."Remember, vs the PAC 12 since 2005, when Kyle became
Utah's head coach.BYU 11-13 (45%)Utah 29-32 (48%)btw, all time versus Oklahoma, Nebraska and TexasBYU 7-1Utah 0-6all time versus SECBYU 4-5Utah
1-6all time versus Washington, WSU, Oregon, OSUBYU 15-15Utah 26-48"Wow! With all that, please tell us why no
conference wants you? Please do tell...
"BYU is always better than half the PAC 12,"2016#4
Washington#10 USC#18 Stanford#26 Colorado#36
BYU#37 Utah#58 Cal#70 UCLA#75 OSU#77
Oregon#90 ASU#102 Arizona
headbanger"Remember, BYU is 4-9 vs the PAC 12 since
2011."Remember, vs the PAC 12 since 2005, when Kyle became
Utah's head coach.BYU 11-13 (45%)Utah 29-32 (48%)btw, all time versus Oklahoma, Nebraska and TexasBYU 7-1Utah 0-6all time versus SECBYU 4-5Utah
1-6all time versus Washington, WSU, Oregon, OSUBYU 15-15Utah 26-48Keep clinging to that 1 point win at home last year,
after BYU spotted U a touchdown on their first play from scrimmage.btw, remind us the last time Utah had four straight Top 25 finishes, including
three out of four Top 16 finishes.
Sports fan:Remember, byu is 4-9 vs the PAC 12 since 2011. Keep
clinging to that 1 point loss last year since we spotted you six turnovers. The
future is very bright and exciting for Utah in the PAC 12. Independence brings
too much uncertainty and instability. Good luck with that though. 2,713 days since byu last beat the "mediocre" Utes. =owned!
BYU is always better than half the PAC 12, yet they are 3-8 over the last 5
years vs. PAC 12 teams. Things that make you go Hmmmm. Good Grief!
I'll take that prediction in a rebuilding year, like the author said after
losing 8 to the NFL draft it will be uphill on the hill. Why all the byU
chatter? I just read the article/comments about Austin Kafensis enrolling at the
y, (good for him) funny thing was there wasn't a single Ute comment, yet
the first 2 comments here were by our fav Ute trolls. rent free boys, Smdh
CG, if we are a "middle of the PAC team" then that just tells me that
BYU would fare even worse if given a similar circumstance. Remind of us your
record against PAC-12 teams since you've gone independent......I'll
help you out.....4-9.....wow......let's hear your excuses for why your team
didn't win each one. And you call us "middle of the PAC" knowing
full well your arch rival has beaten you every game we've played you since
you went Indy? Don't look now, but your insecurity and jealousy is shining
Uteology The ONLY thing that separated BYU from finishing 2016
ranked, and Utah not, was BYU's failed 2-point conversion.BYU
is ALWAYS better than at least half of your PAC 12 opponents.Despite
your arrogant claims to the contrary, that's a provable FACT.
Azute1Unfortunately for U, you're incapable of winning the PAC
South because you always lose to at least one mediocre conference bottom dweller
- see Cal last season.In that respect, you're no different than
you were in the WAC and MWC.Despite the bloviating from the hill,
you've only won FIVE conference championships in the last 50+ years (since
1965).The truth is, you're a middle of the PAC team.
@Not smart for you............."You're just ahead by one step of UCLA,
but that could easily be one step behind them, too."The mighty
cougies are hundreds of steps behind UCLA and Utah so not sure what your point
is? Have an Idea for you when the cougies actually beat Utah on the field where
it matters or better yet beat a team that finishes the season ranked come talk
Bluto - Sandy, UTMay 2, 2017 7:50 a.m.Mid Majors within their own
Conference.------2016 9-4 Utah #23Remind us
the last time a 9-4 mid-major was ranked in the final poll?
It depends on the offense, we'll have to wait until after week 3. Lucky
for us the first three games are scrimmages. Hardest to easiest
games:@ USC@WashingtonStanford@OregonWashigton State@ArizonaColoradoUCLAASUSan
Jose@BYU (Utah is 6-3 LES)North Dakota
The Utes will finishing the middle again and still brag about how great they
are. Did Ute fans ever think that the Utes were invited to the pack 12 just to
round out the conference. So far the Utes have been a disappointment in their
overall athletic performance. It's just the truth. Still they do dominate
the Cougs in Football and gymnastics. The rest of the sports are all Cougars.
And I think that the Football rivalry is getting closer. Then what will the
Utes have? Gymnastics? Aw yes, Gymnastics the only college sport where a group
of 12-14 year old elite gymnasts would crush any university team in the country.
College Womens gymnastics is a title9 seat filler. Don't get me wrong I
like to watch the Red Rocks preform but none of them would make the list of the
top 50 gymnasts in the country.
6th out of 12 and 3rd out of 6 in their division = mediocre, yet again; not
bottom feeders, not champions....just mediocre. "Established Teams"
have all won their division at least once. Colorado joined the same time, they
won it last year, and they are ahead of you on the list again this year.
You're just ahead by one step of UCLA, but that could easily be one step
behind them, too. Always the Utes are supposedly fantastic because they play in
the PAC12, schedule at home the first two games and win those, but remember that
the first year (when the path was greased for them) they lost to Colorado at
home and every year since they give up in November. Maybe instead of deriding
who anyone else plays in November, their fans ought to find a way to get U to
win in November. Now that would be a change, for sure.
Lol at all the bluster, anger and trolling.It will be yet another
fun and great year of football on the hill.Looking forward to it.Go Utes!
65TossPowerTrap - Salmon, IDMay 2, 2017 2:45 p.m.I have the
Utes going undefeated and winning the national championship.------Shocker!
I have the Utes going undefeated and winning the national championship.
We did schedule 3 patsies OOC this year in preparation for our straight brutal
@Spokane Ute - Spokane, WAMay 2, 2017 1:20 p.m."Jello,I didn't call anyone a name. Yes; I think 3 - 6 is fairly accurate.
A lot of talent left Utah this year; rebuild or reload, hopefully the latter of
the two. Peace Guy!"Please! "BYU - Mid Majors that no
conference wants."No need to debate. That's name
calling.Back to the article: Another factor in the Utes record will
be their significantly harder schedule. Home games with BYU, USC, Washington
and Oregon are now road games and you add Stanford and WSU to the schedule.
Utah could have a better team than last year and still finish 6-6 or even
5-7.I have argued that BYU because the majority of their difficult
games are away from home and at the beginning of the season has a difficult
schedule, but it is very polarized. Utah as a Pac member always has a
constantly hard schedule other than the 2 patsies they always schedule. I think
this year will be their hardest schedule even without any real OOC opponent
other than BYU.
Jello,I didn't call anyone a name. Yes; I think 3 - 6 is fairly
accurate. A lot of talent left Utah this year; rebuild or reload, hopefully the
latter of the two. Peace Guy!
Why all the BYU comparisons? This article is about where Utah will finish in
the PAC 12. BYU's season, team, or even the outcome of the BYU-Utah game
will have no impact on this. How do you Ute fans think they will finish? I
thought 3rd and 6th seemed about right. You?
Bluto "Mid Majors within their own Conference."Early season
projections and the end of season results are too different things, as a BYU-P
fan you should be well aware of. Nothing new here. The "experts"
traditionally pick Utah lower than how they eventually end up. This year,
having had so many players leave for the NFL (something unfamiliar to a BYU-P
fan) it may be justified.What you never have, nor ever will see, is
yearly unwarranted pre-season national champ talk only to fall flat when actual
play starts. Now that - is mid-majory.
Time to set something else in concrete. Utah will do better than this article
suggests/predicts. To my way of thinking, the PAC is the best
overall-conference in the country, one I would love to see my team become a part
of. As far as the loss of players to the draft/graduation, the Utes will be
just fine. I hope they finish in the top four. I will be surprised if USC
doesn't play in and win the league championship game. One thing for
certain (certain in my mind, anyway), after having one year under their belt
with the new offense, Utah will become a true power. With the work the players
are doing this off-season, it may happen even sooner. I certainly
get weary of mind when a Ute article draws the Y trolls out with their
nonsensical statements; or when a BYU article is written, drawing the Ute trolls
out with the same level of absurdity. Ever a Y fan, and always a
Coach Whit admirer, I proclaim the above to be accurate and true. Go BYU, Utes
and Aggies. And go 'Hawks, as in Seattle Seahawks!
Although we'll be less experienced, we'll be significantly more
talented overall on D....STs will equally be rock-solid.Winning our
division/conference hinges upon Coach TT & how quickly he can/will get our O
up to speed.byu fans are just simply jealous of our P5 status &
the fact we actually beat good P5 schools & ones which finish the year
@Spokane Ute - Spokane, WAMay 2, 2017 11:12 a.m."BYUMid Majors that no conference wants."C'mon, Spokie.
You're better than that. Stick with the people talking sports and not the
3rd grade name calling. I said 3rd and 6th is about right. Better
if their young defense mature more quickly. Worse if they don't.What about your thoughts?
@ekute - Layton, UTMay 2, 2017 10:11 a.m."To us, it
doesn't even matter if we play BYU."Yet here you are every
article comparing yourself to the team you don't care about.
BYUMid Majors that no conference wants.
@BlutoYou're obsession with all things Utah is alive and well. If
your pathetic cougars can't even beat the "mid major of the Pac 12"
than who can you beat?
p e,lol. To us, it doesn't even matter if we play byu.
ekuteyYes, 'The Utes have been established in the Pac since
their first year of membership...and remain so today....'At 3rd
in the PAC12 south, and 6th overall. They don't need local media to
'troll them'; they take care of that themselves every October -
November.Our hopes and confidence are more modest. That we will
beat U this year. Go Cougars!!
Yes. We're going to read all summer about how according to the local media,
the Packers have reconstructed their roster and scheme to accommodate williams.
The fact is that the referenced article is about how Green Bay drafted a trio of
The Utes have been established in the Pac since their first year of
membership...and remain so today. They're not dominated by any one team or
by the conference itself. For good reason we go into each season with confidence
and high hopes. The local media loves to troll the Utes throughout the summer
and well into the season. Go Utes!
3rd in the south and 6th overall is about right. If all the new players gel
quickly, especially on D, they may stay in the top 25. If not, they better hope
Taylor can invigorate the offense.
Mid Majors within their own Conference.