Profanity is does not have to be cuss words. I have a few buzz words that sicken
me to my stomach. May I share those with you;1.
"Surreal."2. "Got-cha."3. "I-know."4.
"Ya Ya Ya."5. "Spot-on."6. "Nice."7.
"Man Cave."8. "Not my job."9. "I don't
know."10. "Tax breaks for the rich."
to me it is ugly and offensive it is not necessary nor does thinking about that
type of word phrases improve your life or your goals of communicating a clear
thought nor does it elevate anyoneincluding yourself
Acceptable or not profanity has it's place in society. It is used to
punctuate a moment or express a deeper feeling about something. Take
for instance the day Trump won the election. Billion's of people around the
world said, "YOU have to be ______ kidding me?"Profanity
when used properly puts a deeper expression on the subject matter. It is the over use of profanity that degrades the content and the person. Profanity has a place in our world like it or not.
Why use a lot of words when one says it all in voicing frustration.
@sbaggs RE: "Offensive language of any kind shows a great lack of
imagination"...---Oh I don't know. I've seen some
people use great imagination in their use of profanity.===RE: "lack of character"...---Have to agree there. Most
of the expert profanity I've heard has been from people with little
education, drunks, poor people, homeless people, etc, not the professionals I
work with. Some professionals indulge in it after hours, but not many. Lots of
kids like profanity though (especially Jr High). Don't know why.===RE: "To me it shows that they have a low opinion of
themselves"...--- IMO it shows they have a low opinion of their
listener. Assumes their listener comes from a background where that language
is common, listener is used to that language and would appreciate you using that
kind of language. It's condescending IMO.===RE:
"trying to appear better than the person that they are talking to"---I think the opposite. I think they are trying to get on their
listener's level. When they use profanity they are trying to lower
themselves to what they think their listener is used too, enjoys, appreciates,
Offensive language of any kind shows a great lack of imagination and character.
To me it shows that they have a low opinion of themselves and are trying to
appear better than the person that they are talking to or about. It's a bad
habit that can be broken but it takes hard work just like any other bad habit.
I think some people use profanity to be funny, or shocking. They use it for the
shock affect. And I'm not just talking about comedians. People who
can't say a sentence without one profanity in it like the little grin it
gets from their friends too.It's a cheap trick. It gets your
audience laughing, even if what you said wasn't all that funny, but the
random use of profanity sure was. Especially if they think what they said or
heard would make some people uncomfortable.Some people just think
it's funny to throw profanity into every day conversation and see what
reaction they can get. Especially homeless people conversing on their cell
phones intentionally loud enough that everybody on the train can hear what they
are saying (as they watch to see what reaction they get).Some in
Hollywood use it for comic effect too. And it works. They know it works.
Carlin knows it works too. He used it to a great degree. Most comedians do.
They know it gets a reaction.
@Hutterite RE: "Carlin knew. They're just words. Whatever meaning
they take on is provided by us"...---So... what about the
N-word?OK to use it, because it's their fault if they decide to
attribute offensive meaning to it and become offended. So it's the
receiver's fault... not the sender's?I doubt you would say
or think that. So why so cavalier about other offensive words, and just blowing
them off as Carlin believes... just words, assemblages of letters. Nothing to
be offended by.Obviously words CAN be offensive (like the N-word,
and some other foul words in our vocabulary).So I think we should
rise above Carlin, and just not use them. For me and my family of course, yours
may be different. It's up to each individual. But I discourage their use.
Not just dismiss it, as mere assemblage of letters or words with no meaning.
They have meaning. And sometimes it's offensive. Yes, based on the
meaning society attaches to the word (like the N-word and other offensive
words). Sorry Carlin fans... some words are offensive and should not be
used.And I have never approved of Trump's use of profanity OMM.
In fact I've called him out on it on several occasions.
I've battled my own cussing my whole life. I can guarantee you that things
work better when I don't use the more colorful metaphors and use normal
grammatically correct English. By current favorite expression is one I learned
in Texas, "golly bum". That pretty much describes everything.
Amen Miriam. Thanks for your letter. Certainly the world would be more
acceptable for all ages and backgrounds if we eliminated foul language from our
discourse.But I'm also reminded of an interview I saw more than
forty years ago where Johnny Carson was being interviewed on a late, late night
talk show and, unlike his usual demeanor on his own show, he was very serious.
He told of the advice he gave his own sons about 'dirty words" which
was that when we think of dirty words we most often think of the four letter
words used by so many. He acknowledged that for some, those words are just part
of their vocabulary because they use them so often, but for most of us in polite
society, those words are offensive. But the words that should be
offensive to everyone in every circumstance are the words that are always meant
to demean, hurt or offend others - words that I can't print here but they
are used to describe those who are different than us. One word is often
referred to as "the 'N' word but there are words for virtually
every ethnic group different than our own. These are the words that are always
I'd have an easier time believing the use of curse words is lazy and
uncultured if those who profess not to use them didn't just substitute one
s word for another. Sugar? Seriously? Like we don't all know what you
really mean. Put some effort into coming up with a truly unique,
meaningful expression and then maybe I'll buy that you don't curse
because you're not lazy.
@Hutterite: "Carlin knew. They're just words. Whatever meaning they
take on is provided by us."Isn't exactly the same thing
true of the unspeakable "N-word" and other racial epithets including
those used to deride persons of black, Hispanic, Asian, or Jewish descent? And
exactly the same as offensive names for homosexual or transgendered persons? Or
persons with physical, mental, or emotional handicaps? Would you
accept that a rope hanging from a tree, tied into a certain executioner's
knot is just a rope in a tree?What about a couple of sticks tied
together to form a "plus sign" and then set afire? Just a couple of
burning sticks? Or something more serious?It is the meaning one
desires to convey (or that a reasonable person receives) that is the problem
with certain words.Always interesting to me that those who defend
profanity, vulgarity, and blaspheme the strongest are the very persons who turn
around and demand criminal penalties for "hate speech".@Tolstoy: Overcoming our first impulse is often what separates the cultured
and disciplined from the uncivilized.
“Foul language is lazy, uncultured expression,” ======
Anyone who complains about “Foul language"and voted
for Donald Trump, should not be taken seriously.
It isn't the syllables being used that makes language offensive but the
point you're trying to get across. Rather than trying to rid our language
of arbitrary groupings of syllables that will mean different things to people
speaking different tongues, maybe we should work on refining respect and love
in people's hearts.Though we'll always need some kind of
forceful expression for all those stubbed toes...
I don't know if it's lazy or low class. I think it's habit.
Especially when they are in certain crowds (who also tend to communicate with
profanity).I've noticed some people who speak perfectly normal
in some groups, but when they get with certain other groups, they can't get
a sentence out without profanity. And the profanity seems so useless.
It's just they way they talk when they get together.What's
embarrassing is when they slip into their inability to say a sentence without
profanity around their boss or their parents. It sometimes happens.Then they apologize and start talking normally again (I mean the way civilized
people talk).It sometimes becomes such a habit that it accidentally
pops out in job interviews, etc. That can be a pretty devastating faux pas.
Hard to recover from.
Contrary to the oft spouted "cussing is lazy" philosophy, scientific
studies have shown that many who swear are actually more intelligent and have
higher levels of creativity. Shakespeare for example.
so thinking a "cuss word then substituting a nonsense phrase like "oh
sugar makes one "more cultured"?as has been pointed out
before research clearly shows people who "cuss" actual have a larger
vocabulary (excluding "cuss words") and high intelligence then those
that do not "cuss."
Carlin knew. They're just words. Whatever meaning they take on is provided
"oh sugar" Seriously?Sorry but it's a lazy mans
justification to say all inclusively that profanity is inappropriate, and or
lazy itself. I would also suggest that you would have a hard time
finding a standard for what is profanity. That being said I do think language
should be rich, creative, and varied. That standard would exclude any and all
simplistic and restricted speech such as the rhetoric of Donald Trump (never
exceeds the limits of a 12 year old), and some popular cultures where obvious
(today) profanity is the core of the vocabulary. Often the purpose
of profanity is to shock and offend and I'm sorry "oh sugar" is
lazy, lazy, lazy. If you choose to never shock or offend, fine your
choice, but many would find your language poor and ineffective.