DN Subscriber - 'Enforcing drug and vagrancy laws would be a good start to
reduce the homeless population, even if it increases the prison population. Lack
of enforcement only attracts more "homeless."'I would
add, stealing shopping carts is not a victimless crime. They cost a lot of money
and raise the prices we all pay at the grocery stores when they are stolen.
"Build it and they will come."This whole project is fatally
flawed from the start, intended to make liberals feel good about "doing
something" to help a group of people.But, they have no grand
scheme to determine what services are needed for how many people, how to provide
those services, how to segregate the many different subcategories of
"homeless" into the appropriate services, and how to provide both
carrots and sticks to incentivize good behavior. Lacking those basic planning
elements they are simply throwing other people's money at the problem
hoping that some of it might work.There is no plan, and worse, there
is not actually anyone specifically in charge who has the power to implement a
plan, and more importantly to be help accountable when the plan works, or does
not work.Like the doctors say "First, do no harm." Shotgun
location selection is doing more harm than good and needs to stop until they
have a real plan.Enforcing drug and vagrancy laws would be a good
start to reduce the homeless population, even if it increases the prison
population. Lack of enforcement only attracts more "homeless."
West Valley not part of the process? As of Saturday, Mayor Bigelow was steaming
mad at being left out of the process. He wasn't included or invited. Ditto
with the rest of the city council. Putting more than 80 beds in less than
1.5 acres? You might as well double bunk jail cells? You need 1.6 acres plus
more room for parking just for 76 bedrooms. Take a look at the minimum
requirements the state has for assisted living facilities. Putting a
facility near the Jordan Parkway is just being brainless. Watch the traffic and
Trax at the two in WVC near the River and Trax. How many homeless will die
getting hit by the train. It isn't safe there now.
People are homeless due to the growing gap between wages and housing costs, an
economy that has fewer and fewer entry level jobs, the explosive growth in cheap
heroin and other opioids, and the collapse of public mental health services.
Fixing those problems will be complex and time consuming. Short term, however,
there are families on the street. It's sad that we cannot recognize the
difference between the criminal element that preys upon the homeless and the
homeless people themselves.
I am not a politician, merely a blue collar person from a blue collar background
so forgive my ignorance, however, I need to give Mayor McAdams a tip of the hat
to give So. Salt Lake and West Valley citizens the appearance that they had
input in this mess. As a resident of West Valley I feel that we will get the
shelter regardless so my question to McAdams is when do we get the
"jaywalking" wall. At the most recent open house, the only officials
that were "fair and open" were Mayor Ron Bigelow and Senator Karen
Mayne. Fullypresent is spot on with the solution for the shelter and I would
urge Fitness Freak to come to the West Valley offices and see what the resources
are in our city. The "committee and Mayor McAdams are welcome to borrow my
dictionary to define"fair and open". I find the HB441 passed the house
with a unanimous vote, including our representatives, Hmm.
How about 45th and State?Miller owns some property there. The DI is close.
The hospital is close. Murray Park is close. There's a bus and TRAX.Sounds perfect.
Every City should be required to have a Homeless Shelter even Sandy and
Alpine.To place the Homeless burden on Salt Lake City was and is
wrong.Salt Lake City has done good job with a hard problem.
Sad how these people are somehow inferior and unwanted anywhere they go. This
situation speaks volumes about our society and the general lack of concern for
the weak, poor, and the afflicted. If I were homeless, I wouldn't wait
around for people to determine my fate. I'd just read "Home Sweet
Homeless 101" and be on my way to a better life!
At least it is close to the county jail so next time they release someone by
mistake, like they did with Jeremy Johnson, they will have a place to crash for
the night.Fitness Freak is correct. You can't stay in the
shelter if you are under the influence so the Jordan River Parkway becomes a
Oh, by the way - those of you who enjoy walking the trails along the Jordan
River will be in for a HUGE surprise along the river. There will camps made all
along the river and all sorts of nonsense visible for anyone walking the
trails.The "homeless" will NOT be in the shelter, they will
be camped along the river.If the either of the sites next to the
Jordan River are chosen, they (effectively)become the property of the
Ridiculous!!Even an armchair politician like myself can see what the
county and state are doing.They WILL eventually dump S.L.
City's homeless problem on SSL city where, (at least to my perception)the
citizens aren't as involved with their government as are the citizens of
WVC.Not to mention the fact that SSL City doesn't have the
resources to fight back that WVC does.SSL city's citizens are
much more likely to "roll over" and accept S.L. City's problem than
is WVC.S.L. City OWNS the homeless problem. THEY need to fix it!
Fact 1. No one wants the shelters in their city.Fact 2. The homeless
belong to everyone and every community.Fact 3. Dumping on cities of of
lower and lower middle income families is just that.A dump job.Fact 4.
Placing them in cities that already have shelters and are serving the homeless
is dump job.Fact 5. If there is billions of dollars for a new prison for
criminals and an expanded airport there is $ to do a new shelter out towards the
airport with daily shuttle service back and forth to the city. There it would
not be harming businesses, residential neighborhoods, or by schools. Fact
6. Some of the homeless are just down on their luck and need a hand up. Others
don't want help or responsibility. Or, want help but no responsibility.
Others suffer with addiction, mental illness, lack of education, and training to
help them move forward. Fact 7. If the shelters have to be in
neighborhoods than the citizens have a right to some say in where they are
because they are the ones that are paying for them and the services that go with
them. The decisions should be well thought out and not a political football
Who is advising SL County in this mess? The County is tone deaf and pushing an
unwanted agenda on its citizens.