A sixth, possibly seventh site added for new homeless shelter — both in South Salt Lake

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  • No One Of Consequence West Jordan, UT
    March 22, 2017 1:39 p.m.

    DN Subscriber - 'Enforcing drug and vagrancy laws would be a good start to reduce the homeless population, even if it increases the prison population. Lack of enforcement only attracts more "homeless."'

    I would add, stealing shopping carts is not a victimless crime. They cost a lot of money and raise the prices we all pay at the grocery stores when they are stolen.

  • DN Subscriber Cottonwood Heights, UT
    March 22, 2017 7:54 a.m.

    "Build it and they will come."

    This whole project is fatally flawed from the start, intended to make liberals feel good about "doing something" to help a group of people.

    But, they have no grand scheme to determine what services are needed for how many people, how to provide those services, how to segregate the many different subcategories of "homeless" into the appropriate services, and how to provide both carrots and sticks to incentivize good behavior. Lacking those basic planning elements they are simply throwing other people's money at the problem hoping that some of it might work.

    There is no plan, and worse, there is not actually anyone specifically in charge who has the power to implement a plan, and more importantly to be help accountable when the plan works, or does not work.

    Like the doctors say "First, do no harm." Shotgun location selection is doing more harm than good and needs to stop until they have a real plan.

    Enforcing drug and vagrancy laws would be a good start to reduce the homeless population, even if it increases the prison population. Lack of enforcement only attracts more "homeless."

  • Utah_1 Salt Lake City, UT
    March 22, 2017 7:44 a.m.

    West Valley not part of the process? As of Saturday, Mayor Bigelow was steaming mad at being left out of the process. He wasn't included or invited. Ditto with the rest of the city council.
    Putting more than 80 beds in less than 1.5 acres? You might as well double bunk jail cells? You need 1.6 acres plus more room for parking just for 76 bedrooms. Take a look at the minimum requirements the state has for assisted living facilities.
    Putting a facility near the Jordan Parkway is just being brainless. Watch the traffic and Trax at the two in WVC near the River and Trax. How many homeless will die getting hit by the train. It isn't safe there now.

  • Blue Salt Lake City, UT
    March 22, 2017 7:32 a.m.

    People are homeless due to the growing gap between wages and housing costs, an economy that has fewer and fewer entry level jobs, the explosive growth in cheap heroin and other opioids, and the collapse of public mental health services. Fixing those problems will be complex and time consuming. Short term, however, there are families on the street. It's sad that we cannot recognize the difference between the criminal element that preys upon the homeless and the homeless people themselves.

  • Luckyrider Salt Lake City, UT
    March 22, 2017 7:23 a.m.

    I am not a politician, merely a blue collar person from a blue collar background so forgive my ignorance, however, I need to give Mayor McAdams a tip of the hat to give So. Salt Lake and West Valley citizens the appearance that they had input in this mess. As a resident of West Valley I feel that we will get the shelter regardless so my question to McAdams is when do we get the "jaywalking" wall. At the most recent open house, the only officials that were "fair and open" were Mayor Ron Bigelow and Senator Karen Mayne. Fullypresent is spot on with the solution for the shelter and I would urge Fitness Freak to come to the West Valley offices and see what the resources are in our city. The "committee and Mayor McAdams are welcome to borrow my dictionary to define"fair and open". I find the HB441 passed the house with a unanimous vote, including our representatives, Hmm.

  • Say No to BO Mapleton, UT
    March 22, 2017 7:09 a.m.

    How about 45th and State?
    Miller owns some property there. The DI is close. The hospital is close. Murray Park is close. There's a bus and TRAX.

    Sounds perfect.

  • Red Smith American Fork, UT
    March 22, 2017 5:49 a.m.

    Every City should be required to have a Homeless Shelter even Sandy and Alpine.

    To place the Homeless burden on Salt Lake City was and is wrong.

    Salt Lake City has done good job with a hard problem.

  • The meek will inherit the earth Salt Lake City, UT
    March 22, 2017 4:36 a.m.

    Sad how these people are somehow inferior and unwanted anywhere they go. This situation speaks volumes about our society and the general lack of concern for the weak, poor, and the afflicted. If I were homeless, I wouldn't wait around for people to determine my fate. I'd just read "Home Sweet Homeless 101" and be on my way to a better life!

  • No One Of Consequence West Jordan, UT
    March 21, 2017 9:42 p.m.

    At least it is close to the county jail so next time they release someone by mistake, like they did with Jeremy Johnson, they will have a place to crash for the night.

    Fitness Freak is correct. You can't stay in the shelter if you are under the influence so the Jordan River Parkway becomes a convenient campground.

  • Fitness Freak Salt Lake City, UT
    March 21, 2017 7:38 p.m.

    Oh, by the way - those of you who enjoy walking the trails along the Jordan River will be in for a HUGE surprise along the river. There will camps made all along the river and all sorts of nonsense visible for anyone walking the trails.

    The "homeless" will NOT be in the shelter, they will be camped along the river.

    If the either of the sites next to the Jordan River are chosen, they (effectively)become the property of the "homeless"!

  • Fitness Freak Salt Lake City, UT
    March 21, 2017 7:29 p.m.

    Ridiculous!!

    Even an armchair politician like myself can see what the county and state are doing.

    They WILL eventually dump S.L. City's homeless problem on SSL city where, (at least to my perception)the citizens aren't as involved with their government as are the citizens of WVC.

    Not to mention the fact that SSL City doesn't have the resources to fight back that WVC does.

    SSL city's citizens are much more likely to "roll over" and accept S.L. City's problem than is WVC.

    S.L. City OWNS the homeless problem. THEY need to fix it!

  • Fullypresent Salt Lake City, UT
    March 21, 2017 7:25 p.m.

    Fact 1. No one wants the shelters in their city.
    Fact 2. The homeless belong to everyone and every community.
    Fact 3. Dumping on cities of of lower and lower middle income families is just that.A dump job.
    Fact 4. Placing them in cities that already have shelters and are serving the homeless is dump job.
    Fact 5. If there is billions of dollars for a new prison for criminals and an expanded airport there is $ to do a new shelter out towards the airport with daily shuttle service back and forth to the city. There it would not be harming businesses, residential neighborhoods, or by schools.
    Fact 6. Some of the homeless are just down on their luck and need a hand up. Others don't want help or responsibility. Or, want help but no responsibility. Others suffer with addiction, mental illness, lack of education, and training to help them move forward.
    Fact 7. If the shelters have to be in neighborhoods than the citizens have a right to some say in where they are because they are the ones that are paying for them and the services that go with them. The decisions should be well thought out and not a political football fiasco.

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    March 21, 2017 5:45 p.m.

    Who is advising SL County in this mess? The County is tone deaf and pushing an unwanted agenda on its citizens.