Hal Boyd: Trump’s wall of words is free, but how much does it cost?

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  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    March 20, 2017 10:13 a.m.

    "The bourgeoisie cannot exist without constantly revolutionizing the instruments of production, and thereby the relations of production, and with them the whole relations of society. Constant revolutionizing of production , uninterrupted disturbance of all social conditions, everlasting uncertainty and agitation distinguish the bourgeois epoch from all earlier ones. All that is solid melts into the air, all that is holy is profaned, and man is at last compelled to face with sober sense, his real conditions of life, and his relations with his kind." - Marx and Engels

    Marx and Engels describe our epoch well. The disposed white 50 year old worker votes for Trump out of desperation. It will do little good. We need a strategy, collectively and individually, to deal with the constant economic dispossession we all face in this system.

    But we have to take a good hard informed look at this system. Are you up to the task, Mr Boyd? Are we?

  • patriotstate Herriman, UT
    March 20, 2017 8:21 a.m.

    let's start with "in the past two months unlawful crossings have dropped 40 percent." That means that 40% less people tried to enter through a border crossing illegally.

    That doesn't mean that less criminals are crossing the border through illegal crossing routes - it just means that casual criminals are taking a second look before attempting entry through a customs station.

    Stop the spin, even if it's still popular in the leftist speakeasies - because it is no longer in vogue.

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    March 20, 2017 7:07 a.m.

    Worf defends Trump citing "No one was concerned about the hundreds of millions which flowed into the Clinton Foundation, or the hundreds of millions spent for Hawaiian vacations by our former commander? How many poor people could have benefited from that?"

    And yet Worf seems to forget that Trumps own charity was shuttered because of financial irregularities and the fact that it wasn't licensed to operate. Nor does Worf mention that Trump in his first 8 weeks has spent more on his weekend vacations to Florida than did Obama in a whole year. Nor that Trump has spent every weekend golfing.... Trump flying Air Force One to Florida nearly every weekend to play golf isn't so bad.

    Trump is all about saving the government money - just not at his own expense. Golf every weekend and security duplication in Florida and Trump Tower....

    It's obvious this has nothing to do with fiscal conservatism, but being anti-something.

  • 10CC Bountiful, UT
    March 19, 2017 8:19 p.m.

    @Worf - it's true that Trump inherited a large debt, about 100% of GDP. Not the highest, not the lowest, much lower than most people's mortgages (in relation to their income).

    Trump also committed to paying off the entire debt in just 8 years, which requires budget surpluses of 2.5 $Trillion a year, or about 65% of the total budget, and sending hundreds of $Billions a year to Japan and China, who currently hold significant amounts of US sovereign debt. (Japan more than China, but that's a different topic).

    The Trump budget just submitted doesn't reduce the deficit - at all - but makes massive cuts to a lot of programs, while giving defense an enormous boost.

    For example, the State Department will be cut 30%, which might be a big problem.

    Rookie Secretary of State Tillerson, a 30 year employee of Exxon, just handed China a huge diplomatic victory, because he unwittingly agreed with every position the Chinese have taken in the past 2 decades. Nice guy, completely unprepared for the meeting.

    Cutting the State Department by 30% makes Tillerson's job as a rookie Sec of State a kamikaze mission.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    March 19, 2017 6:25 p.m.

    Trump and words...between his bellowing rants of indignation and his whiny whispers of condescending, he is no wordsmith.

  • 10CC Bountiful, UT
    March 19, 2017 11:56 a.m.

    @Bloodhound's response, and this insightful column, are great examples of how America's two "tribes" view America's identity completely differently.

    One tribe views our greatness as being a function of our being a fundamentally white Christian nation, and any additional immigrants must conform, or leave. It's OK if they aren't white, or Christian, but they need to check their culture and language at the door. We're the greatest nation - period - and diversity isn't welcome here.

    The other tribe sees America's greatness is in our ideals, and our willingness to welcome new immigrants, and let their cultures (and even languages) add to our mosaic. Immigrants bring their talents, and dreams, and make America even greater.

    The two tribes see America very differently, but both agree America is losing it's identity (as they define it).

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    March 19, 2017 10:56 a.m.

    Trump will fix poverty like Nazi Germany did.

    eliminate foreigners.
    eliminate illegal workers.
    eliminate certain religions.
    eliminate - academia, liberals, and homosexuals.
    force labor camps.
    concentration, and re-education.
    and ultimately,
    eliminate undesirables.

    But hey -he'll make the trains run on time.

  • worf McAllen, TX
    March 19, 2017 10:48 a.m.

    Donald Trump did not cause the ills of this country.

    A national debt equal to seven hundred dollars for every second of a year.

    No one was concerned about the hundreds of millions which flowed into the Clinton Foundation, or the hundreds of millions spent for Hawaiian vacations by our former commander? How many poor people could have benefited from that?

    Crazy!! But some folks are now concerned of a cost for a wall to protect our citizens?

    Again! Donald Trump did not cause the national debt, or government dependency.

  • Bloodhound Provo, UT
    March 19, 2017 9:52 a.m.

    It's hard to build a common culture when globalists keep overwhelming the system with massive immigration from cultures that don't have much in common. Personally, I'm less bothered by Trump's bellicosity than by members of the establishment who use political correctness to try and shame people into hating their own country. If a million lawyers/journalists were poring across our borders each year and driving down the wages in those professions a border wall manned by machine gun wielding guard towers would have been built years ago. No, the globalists have theirs and detest their own countrymen for wanting higher wages and a common culture and tradition.