Sanctuary for the undocumented comes with legal consequences

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  • H. Bob Salt Lake City, UT
    March 22, 2017 6:20 a.m.

    The euphemism of "undocumented" is a necessary legalism. Unless and until someone's been found in a court of law to be in the country illegally, they are, in the eyes of the law, undocumented. If someone breaks into your house and steals your TV, unless and until they're convicted of that crime, they're alleged burglars. And because our legal system still (barely) abides by the bedrock principle that a person is innocent until proven guilty, this distinction is not just "PC," it's absolutely necessary. There are far too many examples (and it seems to be increasing) of people being harassed or abused or even killed because someone mistakenly believed they were "illegal." PC or not, the presumption of innocence ought to be brought back to the forefront of our legal system and our society.

  • Mack2828 Ft Thomas, KY
    March 21, 2017 2:33 p.m.

    The Prophet Joseph Smith has given us the prophetic guidance that we need on this matter: "We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers and magistrates in obeying honoring and sustaining the law."

  • Mack2828 Ft Thomas, KY
    March 21, 2017 12:46 p.m.

    I'm grateful that the Prophet Joseph Smith had the heaven inspired foresight to keep our church from being tossed to and fro with every wind of these immigration issues in these last days.
    He gave us this bedrock, foundational principle that will guide us well. It is so simple even a primary aged child can learn it "We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers and magistrates in honoring, obeying and sustaining the law."

  • Harrison Bergeron Holladay , UT
    March 18, 2017 10:45 p.m.

    "Sanctuary for the undocumented…"

    I'm really tired of this "undocumented" word game. Everyone knows it's a euphemism for illegal. Would the headline for a home intruder be "unexpected house guest?" How about a carjacker: "unintended passenger?" Should we refer to tax evaders as "un-filed taxpayers?" Shoplifters: "unpaid customers?"

    What happens when "undocumented" is no longer PC. Will it be "legal immigration status challenged?"

    It's simply nonsense.

  • mhenshaw Leesburg, VA
    March 18, 2017 5:21 p.m.

    >>They need to obey the laws. All of them.

    Yes. But obedience to the law does not mean you must agree with it publicly or privately, or stop calling for changes to it.

    That's the wonder of the First Amendment. Constitutionally protected freedom of conscience allows all of us to speak openly about laws we disagree with.

  • Husker1 Northern Utah County, UT
    March 18, 2017 10:36 a.m.

    Three questions:

    1) When a church or synagogue provides sanctuary to an illegal immigrant, how do they know the person or people are not wanted criminals in their home country?

    2) Why don't churches and synagogues provide sanctuary to all criminals?

    3) Why aren't all church and synagogue leaders who provide sanctuary arrested for harboring criminals and obstructing justice?

  • Yuge Opportunity Here Mapleton, UT
    March 18, 2017 10:32 a.m.

    This issue speaks to the political nature of churches today.

    All that effort. It would be better spent helping people to repatriate to their home country as a family. Instead they dig in.

    But I applaud their openness about what they are doing. It clearly tells the rest of the congregation where they stand. And if the founding members don't like it, they can withdraw their financial support and worship elsewhere.

    Sorry to vent, but I'm tired of arguing with people in my ward who insist the church would never call illegal aliens as missionaries.

  • Tolstoy salt lake, UT
    March 18, 2017 9:19 a.m.

    @at long last. .

    Yet conservatives try to ignore the law in so many other areas claiming religious freedom.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    March 17, 2017 11:46 p.m.

    At long last...
    I agree. Pot is legal. Gay marriage is legal. Sunday shopping is legal. Gambling is legal. Abortion is legal. Liberalism is legal.
    The religious have no business trying to impose their sanctimonious attitude towards people on us.
    Nor their attitude towards anything else.
    They need to obey the laws. All of them.

  • at long last. . . Kirksville , MO
    March 17, 2017 9:29 p.m.

    The sanctimonious attitude of many religious people just disgusts me. What is it about illegal you don't get? Didn't Christ say something about rendering to Caesar that which was Caesar's? One interpretation has to be obey the laws. . . Hypocritical behavior